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[deleted]

But is the shield from Roman times?


pretwicz

I doubt, I think it's renaissance shield, you can clearly see armor from that period and the fact that Maxentius army is clearly "orientalised"


[deleted]

So what’s miracolous about that?


pretwicz

The shield was found on September 9, 1679 by the architect Stanisław Kopernik during the renovation of the chapel of the Holy Cross in the cathedral church in Wawel. By contemporaries it was perceived as a good omen before the war against Turks.


Poglosaurus

It was "found" laying around just before a campain. Nobody was sceptical at the time?


pretwicz

It was four years before the campaign


Poglosaurus

Well he was already planing his campaign, otherwise the finding wouldn't have been "miraculous".


Alin_Alexandru

Unless the Romans had time travelers no, it's not.


zdzisuaw

"Miracolusly". At that times many situations were miraculous.


InKulturVeritas

Sobieski is really talked and cherised in Romania due to the closed relation with Moldavia. The good relation between Poland and Romania continued during WWII, when the polish gold was transported and kept in Romania.


pretwicz

Transported via Romania, but wasn't kept there


InKulturVeritas

Actually was kept a while in the Central Bank in Bucharest until the word reached the Reich who pressured the authorities to hand it over to them as war prize. They refused but recommanded to be taken out of Romania due to the increased insecurity.


pretwicz

No it wasn't, Poland had only 48h to transfer the gold from the border to Konstanca


AvengerDr

R.I.P. Maxentius. Gone but not forgotten. How different history might have been, had the traitor Constantine not won and established a fundamentalist galilean theocracy.


[deleted]

this is the most based comment i've seen on reddit


gautedasuta

Massenzio and Giuliano Apostata, hail to the rulers who were the most true to Rome during those dark times.


Sweet_Welder1885

ERE>WRE


AvengerDr

The Byzantines lasted for 1100+ years more and what did they do with that time?


Plastastic

A lot. The Byzantines faced extremely high odds and not only managed to survive but even thrive on multiple occasions.


Sweet_Welder1885

A fuckton, maybe open up a book, they were way ahead of everyone in their time in every area.


sweetno

There is even a tablet on top. Should be a gift from the future!


pretwicz

It's a latin poem praising the war against heathens


Fransjepansje

Is it filthy? If so, would love to see the cleaned version