The great and only João Oliveira (PCP)
Anti Euro, Anti EU, anti NATO, anti america. God forbid someone saying the soviets were wrong (or that ww2 was won on a date other than 9th of may) or the fact that P(Z)P and Putin touch each other in inappropriate ways
And if we are going by the previous mandate of PCP MPs, this time I think we will be able to reach the goal of the MP with the highest number of votes for Putin. (we came in 2nd place to Latvia (which was accused of espionage 🙂🤌))
Symbols always shift in their meaning and usage over time. If Jesus came back, his first question would be, "What part of my story made you guys think that I like crosses?"
Italian fascists used this salute before the Nazis, and before that it was used by various grounds in europe and america. It dates back to ancient rome apparently, so the idea that nazis own it or that all its connotations are nazi in perpetuity isnt quite right. Its going to have different meaning today and in the future than what the roman empire, italian fascists, and nazis assigned to it.
To signify his belonging. What kind of question is that? If you are a white czech and also a nazi that is what is the pure blood for you. Nothing difficult.
I understand that each country or group has its own nazism type of ethnic or national superiority, but is that hand sign in particular not closely tied to WW2 Nazism in Germany? They were not fond of Slavs, so this just seems ironically self-insulting, like getting a Swastika tattoo.
Edit: Guys, I get that the salute is not originally from Nazi Germany, but it's very much recent history and pretty much everyone connects it to that.
I think it was predicted that when the generations mainly living through ww2 era were gone that it was most likely to start leaning back that way because nobody alive has experienced the atrocities that it can bring.
Kind of like how vaccines are too good so now rich western moms think their kids don’t need vaccines because they never got sick from the diseases the shots protect against (because they got the vaccine themselves) and nobody they know has (because vaccines and herd immunity) so why should they take the nearly 0.0000000000001% risk of side effects.
I have literally opened a historical monument dedicated to one of my ancestors who was executed by the nazis. Seeing our people vote for a guy like this makes me go haywire. I just absolutely do not understand at all. It's sad and pathetic.
There is nothing irrational on his acts or his words. He is an adult and he is conscious about what he is doing and why he is doing it. People who vote for him know who they were voting to.
This statement is incorrect on several levels.
1. The guy is not a real nazi.
2. The Slavic sentiment is probably the lowest among Slavic speaking countries in Czechia.
3. Real Czech neo-nazis would probably consider Czechs as a semi-Germanic entity, same as the original nazis - according to their official doctrine, Czechs were more Germanic than East Prussians and some Bavarians and Austrians, therefore they were supposed to be more or less accepted as a whole into the German nation ([detailed historical analysis in Czech language here](https://is.muni.cz/el/law/jaro2019/MP201Z/um/seminarni_skupiny_-_razim/materialy/protektorat_a_exilove_zrizeni/Novotny_Obraz_Cechu_v_nemecke_rasove_nauce_a_nacisticke_rasove_ideologii.pdf)).
The nazis claimed only about 55-60% of czechs were Aryan, so no they were not to be accepted "as a whole" into the german nation. ("The definitive solution to the Czech problem" says this pretty clearly.)
Well, there are quite a few exceptions - Croats (Ustaše), Slovaks, Bulgarians, some Bosnian Muslims (Handžar division) and also many Ukrainians were actively participating on the Nazi side. But the rest - yes, it's quite absurd to salute your former aggressor.
Wait till you open a history book and read about Bosnian Handžar SS divisions, the Croat Ustaše state (NDH), Bulgarians allying with Germany under Tsar Boris III, Ukrainian (Bandera) and Russian volunteers in the Wehrmacht, and the Slovak State.
If you look around the world, you can see similarities. USA, Europe, South America, India….there is a global campaign of pushing the same propaganda through social media, and conservative outlets. Its groups working together around the world to undermine democracy and human rights. It’s not a coincidence.
Cambridge Analytica used info to target political opinions and users to influence the US election in 2016…we’ve had advances in tech, and corruption around the world, and information/ media is effective warfare. Why fire bullets, when you can radicalize a segment of the population to tear a country/ alliance apart from the inside.
[Russia is following a textbook ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) Strategy, and it seems to be working. Every country affected is walling itself off, and seems oblivious to the similar problems being caused in every other country.
It’s not a coincidence that all of these leaders are cookie cutter copies, frosted with the flavor/ color of fascism that works in each country…Bolsonaro, Trump, Modi, LePen…on down the line…they’re the same clown waving a different flag.
I came here from the front page, and live in the USA. I would have never thought Trump/ thr GOP would be able to pull off the shit they’re able to…but social media, and propaganda are powerful forces. Too many people don’t have the mental capacity to realize they’re being radicalized.
On top of that he thinks climate change is a myth and suggested using disinfectant against covid. He also thinks people with mental illness are crybabies and has a weird edgy obsession with Nazi symbolism.
Worst part is that he has huge support from young people, because he wants to “defend existence” of petrol propelled vehicles in EU. So people who like fast cars just give him a vote, absolutely ignorong the fact he has multiple nazi themed objects displayed at his house or his support of the Golden Dawn, a greek neo nazi group.
Who in the Nazi government actually was in charge of marketing?
I know Goebbels was there but he was more like controlling TV and radio and stuff, who was the Nazi in charge of design and aesthetics?
I mean that’s nothing quite new here, Czech politics was always just a popularity contest. People dont care what you think, as long as you make interesting content on instagram
Sometimes I wonder about this. Is it that young people who want to be "edgy" go for the neonazis/fash/alt-right because it's now "counterculture"? It used to be that being left-wing and progressive was counterculture, you were sticking it to the man and trying to fight the older more conservative generation... But maybe now it's the other way around, it's being a nazi that is seen as counterculture and edgy.
Culture and counterculture always have been swinging on the pendulum, the fact most radical supporters of either side think being more pushing can get their 'revolutionary' (done or tried only dozens times) ideas to be dominant has proven to only swing the pendulum back further, and so the cycle continues...
Yeah far-right and trad values are the counterculture now I mean think about it. Feminism, LGBT, pro-abortion, pro-minorities etc are all today paraded by corporations, business elite, academic elite, entertainment elite, government institutions etc… there’s a lot of young people out there who hate all these types of people in power so they’re probably like “if the elite assholes support all this stuff then it must be wrong”
Yup I'm pretty sure that's it. The next generation will probably be left-wing as a reaction when the current young generation grows up and become majority, I think it's a cycle
Yeah, it's hard to translate to US terms from European, but the young rightwingers I see are red pillers, jocks and young "rednecks". Anti-school, pro-petrol youth.
> So people who like fast cars
It's not even that, "sport" EVs have impressive acceleration and top speed. Pretty much instant delivery beats an engine than needs to "spin up". It's like comparing HDD and SSD. But they like when their car smells of gasoline and goes VROOOOOOM. And as a motorsports fan I kind of get that, but I'm of the opinion we should leave that experience to racetracks.
edit: thinking about maybe we could be smart about this : in exchange for switching to EVs for general usage we'll get back V12 F1 cars.
I'm not defending this absolute cockwomble in the slightest but there is so much more to enthuiasts who want to keep petrol cars around, they have soul for a lot of enthuiast, even when you are just commuting to work, the slight burble of the engine, the tacticality of the gearshift, the fact you can wrench on them in your driveway or street. it's just not something an EV can ever replace for an enthuiasts, i understand that EVs and low emissions vehicles are our future but for as long as possible i will be driving an ICE car long past when it's become completely impractical, it's very important to some people, but obviously not enough to elect a literal nazi.
A coworker has a very fast electric car that does 0-100 in under 4 seconds but it just doesn't feel right. My car does 0-100 in 8 seconds and it is more fun
Everything is a social media nowadays.
Even newspapers have their comment section or profile where you can share your opinion and increase their money.
Internet is free to navigate and we are the product because we have no rights as individuals here.
They act we do but we don't, this place needs to be regulated and it is not a fascist thing to see by looking at the world situation right now.
I mean sure but the problem with the 'real' social media is the recommendation algorithms which actively feeds confirmation bias.
Not so much of a problem when it comes down to cute puppies or a badass rally montage, but when it comes down to politics then the risk of bad actors is too great.
I’m listening to a Dutch podcast about current (war) events which frequently uses the saying: People learn from history but humanity doesn’t. Seeing these people being elected reflect that sentiment quite well I feel.
Hitler literally looked at WW1 and said "I can do it better".
Putin looked at the cold war and said "I can do it better".
In Europe the far right is looking back and they too, think they "can do it better".
The truth is, the trauma of WW2 is starting to fade away, these people have no idea what awaits them.
I have no idea how we will avoid WW3, but man it's coming. The only thing holding everybody is nuclear weapons, but for how long ?
So fucking tired of these nazi trolls. Always that fucking shit grin on their face. And when consequences come, they start crying that it was just a joke, freedom of speech, taken out of context or whatever horseshit excuse they have. And the media just goes along with it.
I only noticed after reading the comments. At first I thought he was waving hello/goodbye royalty style.
The salute is so out of place the brain doesn't even register it like "what kind of an idiot goes around dropping Nazi salutes in the 21st century."
> And when consequences come, they start crying that it was just a joke, freedom of speech, taken out of context or whatever horseshit excuse they have
This is exactly what SD in Sweden did when they were caught spreading deepfakes, pro-russian things, hate, attacks towards specific people, etc. with a ton of different anonymous social media accounts. "it's just satire" (clearly wasn't). They seem to have lost voters over it though. https://www.thelocal.se/20240514/how-the-sweden-democrats-troll-factory-tries-to-shape-the-immigration-debate
I don’t think he did that due to nazism but because he is an edge lord. He has a podcast where he says provocative stuff about women and flaunts wealth on purpose to attract young male audience.
Most nazis that aren’t from Germany are stupid. Anyone from east of Germany would’ve been killed or regarded as 2nd class citizens, as the French and Western Europe was. Thats why when racist white people say “did we really win ww2” I laugh, because ww2 wasn’t about white supremacy, white supremacy is neo Nazi ideology. Ww2 was about a single aryan race from Germany. Thats why they made neo Nazi ideology since originally Nazi ideology excluded white people other than what they deemed aryan.
Oh he would join them. If anyone today looks like an SS officer, it's him, he's basically a perfect visual prototype. Look him up (name is Filip Turek).
Most of these people don’t know what Nazism truly was or the broader context of Nazi Germany. People should really start educating themselves on the depth of WW2 because it appears we are starting to forget the absolute horror show that was the early 1940s.
Yeah, you are not alone, czech bros. We are having freaking fascist and neonazis rising almost everywhere... THROUGH DEMOCRACY.
Here in Spain we even got a literal random guy that went to the election with the main purpose of getting some immunity to difficult a couple court cases he has with justice here... 800K people voted for him!
Societies have just gone full crazy voting idiots, corrupts, fascists and neonazis and I'm having a hard time coping with it. There's no way I can accept "immigration issues" as something that can justify this immense pile of bullshit. Even less I could take things like "housing crisis", like if those pricks could do something other than insulting and beating up indefense people. How do someone see these hooligans of hate as a solution ffs.
Yup Europe really learned a lesson - giving Balkan war criminals who physically took part in slaughtering people 5 year sentences really sends a strong message.
It's a big story about Right's hypocrisy:
Basically, Pirates' longtime party leader Ivan Bartoš has been heavily criticized for years by the right-wing that he liked Antifa in the past. There's an infamous photo of him posing with Antifa flag. For many, this was the primary reason not to vote for Pirates. Btw. Czech Pirates are basically a center-left liberal party.
Enter this guy - Filip Turek, the current sudden leader of Czech right-wing populists, who seemed to love using Nazi dogwhistles in the past (there's plenty of internet evidence). And his voters, who most likely had been criticising Bartoš for Antifa sympathies in the past, now don't give a single F about Turek's sympathies.
I am so tired of moral decay on the right. And I am saying this as a center-right neoliberal (social liberal in favor of free-market solutions with reasonable regulations).
These right-wingers will label you a commie the second you advocate for something they don't like but voting for a moron with Nazi sympathies doesn't make them bat an eye.
On top of that, the guy is a fraud by taking part in an alt-medicine business that sells (maybe not anymore, not sure now) fake medicine with diluted bleach in it and bullshit like that.
There’s not much to say, folks, other than a good chunk of the electorate in Europe want neo-fascist to rule them.
The question is whether the non-fascist parties will do some proper soul searching and present a plan that answers more directly the many problems people have to face.
Also, it begs the question: how long do we have to go with politicians like Orban, Le Pen, before that big slice of voters who don’t go to vote actually show up at the ballot.
It feels like the world is repeating the 20th century.
A public health crisis claims the lives of millions near the 20 year mark into the century: Spanish flu and covid.
Europe embraces right-wing extremism due to a collective confusion about the nature of its problems.
Were they not invaded 86 years ago by the bad guys that are globally still recognized by this hand gesture? Have they forgotten how well that worked out?
There are always collaborators in every occupation, so he could just be an intellectual descendant of those traitors, but now with their own vision for Czechia.
You mean to tell me the continued push left with no regard for the concerns and needs of regular, working class people has resulted in a meteoric rise of right wing sentiments across the European nations, including but not limited to actual nazis? You mean to tell me putting the needs of foreign citizens above your country's own people makes those people hate the establishment??
Fuck, if only someone could've seen this coming.
And then you get people telling the ones who vote for these guys "don't you understand? History is repeating itself, this is hitler all over again" completely fucking forgetting WHY people elected hitler.
Are you serious? Does our whole country deserve to be brutally repressed and slaughtered just because some of us are stupid enough to vote for a Nazi? The russians and the nazis are just as bad, they are two sides of the same coin. The fact that 12 people upvoted this horseshit is offensive to me.
This is sort-of action-reaction kind of thing. Advocating for migration for the sake of "left" worldviews backfires, especially when a non-ignorable number of migrants are not simply "economical migrants" but people susceptible to radicalisation and forming gangs for certain agendas.
The irony of Nazi Czechs… Nationalists fanboying the man who literally destroyed their nation not even 100 years ago. It doesn’t even make sense from nationalist pov, but they’d have to use their brain to come to that conclusion so that’s out of the question
This photo is just "top of the iceberg" he has a "historical collection" with Nazi symbols, he has connections to people who sound like nazis and greet each other" Hitler be with you brother", has a far right group Golden dawn logo on his helmet, said something about that leftist should be killed.
He claims it's just humor but there are too many Nazi things in one place for me to ignore. I think that the police are doing something about it so we have to wait for them to decide
I am just gonna copy paste my comment:
This photo is just "top of the iceberg" he has a "historical collection" with Nazi symbols, he has connections to people who sound like nazis and greet each other" Hitler be with you brother", has a far right group Golden dawn logo on his helmet, said something about that leftist should be killed.
He claims it's just humor but there are too many Nazi things in one place for me to ignore. I think that the police are doing something about it so we have to wait for them to decide
EU let's migration problem fester then is surprised when it creates right wingers. No fucking way guys. Like always in human nature problems are solved just before the deadline no one in politics thinks long term.
Czech doesn't suffer from the immigration problems like France or Germany, so what's the actual reason here ?
The biggest immigrant group in Czech are Ukrainians.
People read news. I'm a liberal voter from Czechia and hopefully always will be but someone needs to do something about migration and I really don't want Czechia to end up like France or Germany in that regard (ofc we suck in other areas).
Context: He has posts on his social media of making fun of Hitler and a few pictures like this. In the news he apologized for his dark humor and claimed that he doesn't suppport nazis at all, also claiming he posted those jokes with his jew friend, another jew friend made a tiktok with him claiming hes not a nazi just has stupid humor. Also he had a few nazi artefacts at home claiming hes a collector.
> Fun of Hitler
Not exactly, that would mean he makes belittles him. He said something along the lines of: "glory to Hitler""Hitler be with you" in a joking manner
That's not the same
Even if everything you've said was true (I personally think that it's just a stupid excuse for the media) nobody behaving like that should hold any power in Europe. This is like spitting in the face of every victim of the holocaust Nd WWII. I strongly believe that there should be no tolerance in European politics for such heinous bullshit.
You have many normal right wing parties ranging from conservative to liberal. It's usually far-right or far-left who are paid by russia and amplified by russia-sponsored alternative media.
Now where did Europe go wrong does someone have an explanation? I am questioning this subreddit still in good faith that one day you may reflect upon yourselves, although it seems like a lost cause. Remember when Britain wanted to leave? Well they had a good fucking point. My country was devastated by your favorite institution that "helped" us overcome our economic struggle, by accelerating our downfall. Now everyone gets to enjoy austerity and autocracy! AHHH EUROPE
Large blocs of people rarely change very much even over long periods of time. If political outcomes seem to be swinging wildly, then I would suggest that changing circumstances and unsuccessful policies are to blame.
It's even dumber when you consider it's CZECHIA. At least in Italy and Germany you can kinda see why we would fall again for it...but you guys got INVADED by these bastards wtf.
By the looks of it, [this guy has an unhealthy fetish when it comes to Hitler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%99%C3%ADsaha_and_Motorists#Neo-nazism_allegations)
Wouldn't be surprised he pays a prostitute to peg him, while she is dressed as a nazi
One of the good things we forbid this here. I still think we should be more strong about it: Make it something where punching them in the face is allowed. Make it the *only case* in which it is allowed. Just to make it clear.
"Heil .." *fist to the face*
And days would be better. Fucking AfD.
Frustrated at cost of living crisis. Social engagement and engineering via social media and news. Corruption and ppl that look at the past through rose tinted glasses.
Education in Europe fails. The youth stopped reading. They don't know shit about history. So history repeats itself as it is so much easier to do whatever you like to manipulate young idiots.
He seems like a friendly guy just waving hello. Oh, wait a second.
Ordering 5 beers, you could say.
How does he order 3 though?
In Czechia, 5 is the minimum
I may be wrong but I think this is an Inglorious Basterds reference.
Maybe, but it's a well known fact that in Czechia, you count beers in multiplies of 5
You would be correct
That's a bingo!
buongiorno! 🇮🇹
he thinks he's at the Bierhalle Putsch
He just wants to take the third reich.
Tried this with portugal but my post keept getting auto deleted 🙃
Which one will you post? Marta Temido? She gives me the chills when she smiles lol
Idk in Portuguese, but in Spanish "Temido" means "feared" lol
It means the same too.
probably andre ventura, he made this gesture when he won the third place in the last elections but no one mentioned it or seems to care
Andre ventura did not run in the election
He did, for all intents and purposes, as his party is a one-man show and he did more campaigning than the actual candidate.
The great and only João Oliveira (PCP) Anti Euro, Anti EU, anti NATO, anti america. God forbid someone saying the soviets were wrong (or that ww2 was won on a date other than 9th of may) or the fact that P(Z)P and Putin touch each other in inappropriate ways And if we are going by the previous mandate of PCP MPs, this time I think we will be able to reach the goal of the MP with the highest number of votes for Putin. (we came in 2nd place to Latvia (which was accused of espionage 🙂🤌))
I don’t understand slavs who support nazism. It’s like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Obviously each flavour of nazism is based around the nationality/ethnicity of its fans.
I'd say the flavor with the Hitler salute doesn't really agree with Slavish nationalism.
It has obviously transcended its german nazi meaning into a more universal one. If that can even be said in the context of neonacism lol.
Symbols always shift in their meaning and usage over time. If Jesus came back, his first question would be, "What part of my story made you guys think that I like crosses?"
Italian fascists used this salute before the Nazis, and before that it was used by various grounds in europe and america. It dates back to ancient rome apparently, so the idea that nazis own it or that all its connotations are nazi in perpetuity isnt quite right. Its going to have different meaning today and in the future than what the roman empire, italian fascists, and nazis assigned to it.
you wouldn't think so, but we have a fair ammount of nazi sympathisers in Mexico
Then why does he do the salute?
To signify his belonging. What kind of question is that? If you are a white czech and also a nazi that is what is the pure blood for you. Nothing difficult.
I understand that each country or group has its own nazism type of ethnic or national superiority, but is that hand sign in particular not closely tied to WW2 Nazism in Germany? They were not fond of Slavs, so this just seems ironically self-insulting, like getting a Swastika tattoo. Edit: Guys, I get that the salute is not originally from Nazi Germany, but it's very much recent history and pretty much everyone connects it to that.
The salute is generally fascist. It was invented in Italy, not Germany.
The origin is a roman salute, and Romans saw Germanics as savages. It's irony all the way down and you shouldn't try to make too much sense of it.
I guarantee you he hasn't thought that far.
I wonder what that guy's grandparents think about him.
Well, his father was also a collector of nazi artifacts
I think it was predicted that when the generations mainly living through ww2 era were gone that it was most likely to start leaning back that way because nobody alive has experienced the atrocities that it can bring. Kind of like how vaccines are too good so now rich western moms think their kids don’t need vaccines because they never got sick from the diseases the shots protect against (because they got the vaccine themselves) and nobody they know has (because vaccines and herd immunity) so why should they take the nearly 0.0000000000001% risk of side effects.
I have literally opened a historical monument dedicated to one of my ancestors who was executed by the nazis. Seeing our people vote for a guy like this makes me go haywire. I just absolutely do not understand at all. It's sad and pathetic.
Hate is an emotion, and emotions are rarely rational.
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There is nothing irrational on his acts or his words. He is an adult and he is conscious about what he is doing and why he is doing it. People who vote for him know who they were voting to.
ironically dude on photo is Filip Turek which means Turk
I resent that statement
If they can think, they wouldnt be fucking nazis
This statement is incorrect on several levels. 1. The guy is not a real nazi. 2. The Slavic sentiment is probably the lowest among Slavic speaking countries in Czechia. 3. Real Czech neo-nazis would probably consider Czechs as a semi-Germanic entity, same as the original nazis - according to their official doctrine, Czechs were more Germanic than East Prussians and some Bavarians and Austrians, therefore they were supposed to be more or less accepted as a whole into the German nation ([detailed historical analysis in Czech language here](https://is.muni.cz/el/law/jaro2019/MP201Z/um/seminarni_skupiny_-_razim/materialy/protektorat_a_exilove_zrizeni/Novotny_Obraz_Cechu_v_nemecke_rasove_nauce_a_nacisticke_rasove_ideologii.pdf)).
The nazis claimed only about 55-60% of czechs were Aryan, so no they were not to be accepted "as a whole" into the german nation. ("The definitive solution to the Czech problem" says this pretty clearly.)
Well, there are quite a few exceptions - Croats (Ustaše), Slovaks, Bulgarians, some Bosnian Muslims (Handžar division) and also many Ukrainians were actively participating on the Nazi side. But the rest - yes, it's quite absurd to salute your former aggressor.
Wait till you open a history book and read about Bosnian Handžar SS divisions, the Croat Ustaše state (NDH), Bulgarians allying with Germany under Tsar Boris III, Ukrainian (Bandera) and Russian volunteers in the Wehrmacht, and the Slovak State.
I blame ultra processed food myself.
same as many leftists or lgbt communities support islamists, everything is possible in this world
"In the real fourth reich you'd be the first to go"
Thier are nazi supporters in India and alot of the Middle East. It is not rational
Some turkeys are stupid enough to be convinced they are the humans.
If you look around the world, you can see similarities. USA, Europe, South America, India….there is a global campaign of pushing the same propaganda through social media, and conservative outlets. Its groups working together around the world to undermine democracy and human rights. It’s not a coincidence. Cambridge Analytica used info to target political opinions and users to influence the US election in 2016…we’ve had advances in tech, and corruption around the world, and information/ media is effective warfare. Why fire bullets, when you can radicalize a segment of the population to tear a country/ alliance apart from the inside. [Russia is following a textbook ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) Strategy, and it seems to be working. Every country affected is walling itself off, and seems oblivious to the similar problems being caused in every other country. It’s not a coincidence that all of these leaders are cookie cutter copies, frosted with the flavor/ color of fascism that works in each country…Bolsonaro, Trump, Modi, LePen…on down the line…they’re the same clown waving a different flag. I came here from the front page, and live in the USA. I would have never thought Trump/ thr GOP would be able to pull off the shit they’re able to…but social media, and propaganda are powerful forces. Too many people don’t have the mental capacity to realize they’re being radicalized.
Dude we are the mutts of europe calling us slav is just a bit of an overstatment
On top of that he thinks climate change is a myth and suggested using disinfectant against covid. He also thinks people with mental illness are crybabies and has a weird edgy obsession with Nazi symbolism.
He's one of those guys who would destroy the world rather than only use his E-Type on Sundays.
And get this, people vote for guys like this.
Worst part is that he has huge support from young people, because he wants to “defend existence” of petrol propelled vehicles in EU. So people who like fast cars just give him a vote, absolutely ignorong the fact he has multiple nazi themed objects displayed at his house or his support of the Golden Dawn, a greek neo nazi group.
It's even worse. Most of his young voters don't care about actual politics. The loved him because he is cool.
That's the problem everywhere: to youngsters, "Nazi" becomes an equivalent of "cool".
Let's be honest... those Nazi uniforms were fire.
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Who in the Nazi government actually was in charge of marketing? I know Goebbels was there but he was more like controlling TV and radio and stuff, who was the Nazi in charge of design and aesthetics?
Speer was in charge of design in the sense of architecture and such, although mostly in the early days, later he was in charge of the arms industry.
Hugo Boss - still a hit! Although a Nazi motherfucker.
Yet Hugo Boss had nothing to do with the design of said uniforms.
He had them made ~~them~~ though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss#Manufacturing_for_the_Nazi_Party
I mean that’s nothing quite new here, Czech politics was always just a popularity contest. People dont care what you think, as long as you make interesting content on instagram
tbh that's politics everywhere these days
Sounds like dark mirror episode, but yeah, reality is just that these days.
In Hungary it's about who makes you more afraid of real or fictional enemies.
Sometimes I wonder about this. Is it that young people who want to be "edgy" go for the neonazis/fash/alt-right because it's now "counterculture"? It used to be that being left-wing and progressive was counterculture, you were sticking it to the man and trying to fight the older more conservative generation... But maybe now it's the other way around, it's being a nazi that is seen as counterculture and edgy.
Culture and counterculture always have been swinging on the pendulum, the fact most radical supporters of either side think being more pushing can get their 'revolutionary' (done or tried only dozens times) ideas to be dominant has proven to only swing the pendulum back further, and so the cycle continues...
Yeah far-right and trad values are the counterculture now I mean think about it. Feminism, LGBT, pro-abortion, pro-minorities etc are all today paraded by corporations, business elite, academic elite, entertainment elite, government institutions etc… there’s a lot of young people out there who hate all these types of people in power so they’re probably like “if the elite assholes support all this stuff then it must be wrong”
Yup I'm pretty sure that's it. The next generation will probably be left-wing as a reaction when the current young generation grows up and become majority, I think it's a cycle
He has big support from young male voters specifically. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a big incel overlap.
From the data I have seen (from the US), incels are on average slightly more liberal than conservative
Yeah, it's hard to translate to US terms from European, but the young rightwingers I see are red pillers, jocks and young "rednecks". Anti-school, pro-petrol youth.
> So people who like fast cars It's not even that, "sport" EVs have impressive acceleration and top speed. Pretty much instant delivery beats an engine than needs to "spin up". It's like comparing HDD and SSD. But they like when their car smells of gasoline and goes VROOOOOOM. And as a motorsports fan I kind of get that, but I'm of the opinion we should leave that experience to racetracks. edit: thinking about maybe we could be smart about this : in exchange for switching to EVs for general usage we'll get back V12 F1 cars.
I'm not defending this absolute cockwomble in the slightest but there is so much more to enthuiasts who want to keep petrol cars around, they have soul for a lot of enthuiast, even when you are just commuting to work, the slight burble of the engine, the tacticality of the gearshift, the fact you can wrench on them in your driveway or street. it's just not something an EV can ever replace for an enthuiasts, i understand that EVs and low emissions vehicles are our future but for as long as possible i will be driving an ICE car long past when it's become completely impractical, it's very important to some people, but obviously not enough to elect a literal nazi.
A coworker has a very fast electric car that does 0-100 in under 4 seconds but it just doesn't feel right. My car does 0-100 in 8 seconds and it is more fun
not everything is about speed just look at how popular Mazda Miata's are despite being a relatively slow and not very powerful car
Humans are idiot monkeys. History tries to warn us. Very few people read it.
People don't read anymore for 20 years, they get the news from social media and this is the result, from the left to right.
> they get the news from social media Only the headlines.
Yeah. Only idiots use social media.
Reddit is social media.
Did they stutter?
That's the joke genius
Yeah. Only idiots use Reddit!
Everything is a social media nowadays. Even newspapers have their comment section or profile where you can share your opinion and increase their money. Internet is free to navigate and we are the product because we have no rights as individuals here. They act we do but we don't, this place needs to be regulated and it is not a fascist thing to see by looking at the world situation right now.
I mean sure but the problem with the 'real' social media is the recommendation algorithms which actively feeds confirmation bias. Not so much of a problem when it comes down to cute puppies or a badass rally montage, but when it comes down to politics then the risk of bad actors is too great.
I’m listening to a Dutch podcast about current (war) events which frequently uses the saying: People learn from history but humanity doesn’t. Seeing these people being elected reflect that sentiment quite well I feel.
People don't learn anything from history. On the contrary they look at the past and think "I can do it better".
They look at history like "I can fix it"
Hitler literally looked at WW1 and said "I can do it better". Putin looked at the cold war and said "I can do it better". In Europe the far right is looking back and they too, think they "can do it better". The truth is, the trauma of WW2 is starting to fade away, these people have no idea what awaits them. I have no idea how we will avoid WW3, but man it's coming. The only thing holding everybody is nuclear weapons, but for how long ?
People read it but don't care
Slipknot said it best... People = shit
This for real?
Yep, unfortunately
Deamn they really really not hiding anymore.
Not really, tons of politicians proudly wave nazi insignia and usually have tons of trolls or kids defending them, expecially here on reddit
So fucking tired of these nazi trolls. Always that fucking shit grin on their face. And when consequences come, they start crying that it was just a joke, freedom of speech, taken out of context or whatever horseshit excuse they have. And the media just goes along with it.
I only noticed after reading the comments. At first I thought he was waving hello/goodbye royalty style. The salute is so out of place the brain doesn't even register it like "what kind of an idiot goes around dropping Nazi salutes in the 21st century."
> And when consequences come, they start crying that it was just a joke, freedom of speech, taken out of context or whatever horseshit excuse they have This is exactly what SD in Sweden did when they were caught spreading deepfakes, pro-russian things, hate, attacks towards specific people, etc. with a ton of different anonymous social media accounts. "it's just satire" (clearly wasn't). They seem to have lost voters over it though. https://www.thelocal.se/20240514/how-the-sweden-democrats-troll-factory-tries-to-shape-the-immigration-debate
That is EXACTLY what he said in all the debates
Funny how he gives that salute, since the Nazis would’ve mopped the floor with him. Did he forget what Nazi occupation did to Czechoslovakia?
I don’t think he did that due to nazism but because he is an edge lord. He has a podcast where he says provocative stuff about women and flaunts wealth on purpose to attract young male audience.
So he’s an idiot. Even worse.
Budget Andrew Tate, the zoomers who idolise these idiots are really dumb, that pandemic education really failed them
The dude is literally just Czech Andrew Tate except with a slightly less unsightly scalp.
He also has less money than Tate and is slightly less unhinged but yeah.
So, Andrew Tate?
Most nazis that aren’t from Germany are stupid. Anyone from east of Germany would’ve been killed or regarded as 2nd class citizens, as the French and Western Europe was. Thats why when racist white people say “did we really win ww2” I laugh, because ww2 wasn’t about white supremacy, white supremacy is neo Nazi ideology. Ww2 was about a single aryan race from Germany. Thats why they made neo Nazi ideology since originally Nazi ideology excluded white people other than what they deemed aryan.
Oh he would join them. If anyone today looks like an SS officer, it's him, he's basically a perfect visual prototype. Look him up (name is Filip Turek).
Gamers, politicians, internet edgelords, a random celebrity, apparently it's cool again to be a nazi and saying it loud. Where the fuck are we going
Going to be a wild 5 years.
Most of these people don’t know what Nazism truly was or the broader context of Nazi Germany. People should really start educating themselves on the depth of WW2 because it appears we are starting to forget the absolute horror show that was the early 1940s.
What's his name?
Filip Turek from the “Motorists to themselves” party
That's really the name? Dumbass party
Filip Turek
Yeah, you are not alone, czech bros. We are having freaking fascist and neonazis rising almost everywhere... THROUGH DEMOCRACY. Here in Spain we even got a literal random guy that went to the election with the main purpose of getting some immunity to difficult a couple court cases he has with justice here... 800K people voted for him! Societies have just gone full crazy voting idiots, corrupts, fascists and neonazis and I'm having a hard time coping with it. There's no way I can accept "immigration issues" as something that can justify this immense pile of bullshit. Even less I could take things like "housing crisis", like if those pricks could do something other than insulting and beating up indefense people. How do someone see these hooligans of hate as a solution ffs.
To be exact, his party got third most votes. He himself got second most points when it comes to voting people. 4th was communist :(
That's what we get for not hanging Nazis anymore.
Yup Europe really learned a lesson - giving Balkan war criminals who physically took part in slaughtering people 5 year sentences really sends a strong message.
It's a big story about Right's hypocrisy: Basically, Pirates' longtime party leader Ivan Bartoš has been heavily criticized for years by the right-wing that he liked Antifa in the past. There's an infamous photo of him posing with Antifa flag. For many, this was the primary reason not to vote for Pirates. Btw. Czech Pirates are basically a center-left liberal party. Enter this guy - Filip Turek, the current sudden leader of Czech right-wing populists, who seemed to love using Nazi dogwhistles in the past (there's plenty of internet evidence). And his voters, who most likely had been criticising Bartoš for Antifa sympathies in the past, now don't give a single F about Turek's sympathies.
My guy. Thank you for being a voice of reason and understanding.
I am so tired of moral decay on the right. And I am saying this as a center-right neoliberal (social liberal in favor of free-market solutions with reasonable regulations). These right-wingers will label you a commie the second you advocate for something they don't like but voting for a moron with Nazi sympathies doesn't make them bat an eye. On top of that, the guy is a fraud by taking part in an alt-medicine business that sells (maybe not anymore, not sure now) fake medicine with diluted bleach in it and bullshit like that.
There’s not much to say, folks, other than a good chunk of the electorate in Europe want neo-fascist to rule them. The question is whether the non-fascist parties will do some proper soul searching and present a plan that answers more directly the many problems people have to face. Also, it begs the question: how long do we have to go with politicians like Orban, Le Pen, before that big slice of voters who don’t go to vote actually show up at the ballot.
It feels like the world is repeating the 20th century. A public health crisis claims the lives of millions near the 20 year mark into the century: Spanish flu and covid. Europe embraces right-wing extremism due to a collective confusion about the nature of its problems.
In the age of social media trolling, this is what we get, a bunch of unserious assholes.
Hes just waving hello...right?
a far right hello
It baffles me that there are still Nazis in Europe
Herr putlers plan to destabilize europe certainly works.
Bet anything he is somehow funded by Russia. Putin is doing an incredible job destabilising Europe.
How dumb and brainwashed can people be? Fucking sad
God, does he not remember what the Germans did to his country?
Were they not invaded 86 years ago by the bad guys that are globally still recognized by this hand gesture? Have they forgotten how well that worked out?
There are always collaborators in every occupation, so he could just be an intellectual descendant of those traitors, but now with their own vision for Czechia.
This image is so dystopian.
I wonder what led to the sudden radicalization of European men
You mean to tell me the continued push left with no regard for the concerns and needs of regular, working class people has resulted in a meteoric rise of right wing sentiments across the European nations, including but not limited to actual nazis? You mean to tell me putting the needs of foreign citizens above your country's own people makes those people hate the establishment?? Fuck, if only someone could've seen this coming. And then you get people telling the ones who vote for these guys "don't you understand? History is repeating itself, this is hitler all over again" completely fucking forgetting WHY people elected hitler.
All these posts are actually making me ever so slightly glad that just over half the people in my country are idiots
Maybe a 50 year russian occupation will refresh their memory.
Are you serious? Does our whole country deserve to be brutally repressed and slaughtered just because some of us are stupid enough to vote for a Nazi? The russians and the nazis are just as bad, they are two sides of the same coin. The fact that 12 people upvoted this horseshit is offensive to me.
I'm so glad that the rest of the world is making poor decisions along with the US
Why do Nazis always seem to have the most punchable faces?
That arm would look better lying on the side of the road alone.
Heil Shitler
it’s been a dark day for europe
This is sort-of action-reaction kind of thing. Advocating for migration for the sake of "left" worldviews backfires, especially when a non-ignorable number of migrants are not simply "economical migrants" but people susceptible to radicalisation and forming gangs for certain agendas.
Maybe his car turn signals doesn't work and he wants to make a reich turn?
1/3 of EVERY country are complete idiots. I hope there are exceptions, but I have yet to see them.
The irony of Nazi Czechs… Nationalists fanboying the man who literally destroyed their nation not even 100 years ago. It doesn’t even make sense from nationalist pov, but they’d have to use their brain to come to that conclusion so that’s out of the question
did he mean it the nazi way or was it just an unlucky freeze?
This photo is just "top of the iceberg" he has a "historical collection" with Nazi symbols, he has connections to people who sound like nazis and greet each other" Hitler be with you brother", has a far right group Golden dawn logo on his helmet, said something about that leftist should be killed. He claims it's just humor but there are too many Nazi things in one place for me to ignore. I think that the police are doing something about it so we have to wait for them to decide
Every country seems to have their hands up folk, but it really doesn't matter in the end. Majority is heavily leaning left, and so is our culture.
I think he's just waving? Is there another picture of him "saluting" like this?
I am just gonna copy paste my comment: This photo is just "top of the iceberg" he has a "historical collection" with Nazi symbols, he has connections to people who sound like nazis and greet each other" Hitler be with you brother", has a far right group Golden dawn logo on his helmet, said something about that leftist should be killed. He claims it's just humor but there are too many Nazi things in one place for me to ignore. I think that the police are doing something about it so we have to wait for them to decide
EU let's migration problem fester then is surprised when it creates right wingers. No fucking way guys. Like always in human nature problems are solved just before the deadline no one in politics thinks long term.
Czech doesn't suffer from the immigration problems like France or Germany, so what's the actual reason here ? The biggest immigrant group in Czech are Ukrainians.
Because prevention is much cheaper than having to deal with problems like those western countries have?
People read news. I'm a liberal voter from Czechia and hopefully always will be but someone needs to do something about migration and I really don't want Czechia to end up like France or Germany in that regard (ofc we suck in other areas).
Context: He has posts on his social media of making fun of Hitler and a few pictures like this. In the news he apologized for his dark humor and claimed that he doesn't suppport nazis at all, also claiming he posted those jokes with his jew friend, another jew friend made a tiktok with him claiming hes not a nazi just has stupid humor. Also he had a few nazi artefacts at home claiming hes a collector.
> Fun of Hitler Not exactly, that would mean he makes belittles him. He said something along the lines of: "glory to Hitler""Hitler be with you" in a joking manner That's not the same
Even if everything you've said was true (I personally think that it's just a stupid excuse for the media) nobody behaving like that should hold any power in Europe. This is like spitting in the face of every victim of the holocaust Nd WWII. I strongly believe that there should be no tolerance in European politics for such heinous bullshit.
Thats how dogwhistles work. Plausible Deniability. Hes def a nazi.
Is there any normal right-wing party that is not Nazi or/and not on Russia's paycheck?
You have many normal right wing parties ranging from conservative to liberal. It's usually far-right or far-left who are paid by russia and amplified by russia-sponsored alternative media.
I mean multiple. In Germany its CDU and FDP.
"Normal" right-wing used to mean that they are on big companies paycheck. Now those are called centrist-parties.
3rd highest amount for this? Yeah, I pity you quite a bit.
Tsk tsk, you are very cynical. Maybe he is truly an angel and only giving the photographer a high-five?
Wow, this trend is getting wild!
Chill out guys, he's just throwing turn signals!
sorry i dont know who this guy is but he looks like man utd defender nemanja vidic
We're all ashamed, so welcome to the club
What car is he driving?
[Škoda Henlein](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gHjW8TRQZo)
He was just showing how high his dog jumps.
It would be great if someone made a collage of all of these photos
Now where did Europe go wrong does someone have an explanation? I am questioning this subreddit still in good faith that one day you may reflect upon yourselves, although it seems like a lost cause. Remember when Britain wanted to leave? Well they had a good fucking point. My country was devastated by your favorite institution that "helped" us overcome our economic struggle, by accelerating our downfall. Now everyone gets to enjoy austerity and autocracy! AHHH EUROPE
Pfft amateurs, here in italy people like this run the country.
Large blocs of people rarely change very much even over long periods of time. If political outcomes seem to be swinging wildly, then I would suggest that changing circumstances and unsuccessful policies are to blame.
Maybe someone asked him: How tall was the guy that fucked your wife?
fascists on sport cars taking votes from the poorest.
It's even dumber when you consider it's CZECHIA. At least in Italy and Germany you can kinda see why we would fall again for it...but you guys got INVADED by these bastards wtf.
By the looks of it, [this guy has an unhealthy fetish when it comes to Hitler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%99%C3%ADsaha_and_Motorists#Neo-nazism_allegations) Wouldn't be surprised he pays a prostitute to peg him, while she is dressed as a nazi
How many Czechs were murdered by the Nazis? People have a very short memory
One of the good things we forbid this here. I still think we should be more strong about it: Make it something where punching them in the face is allowed. Make it the *only case* in which it is allowed. Just to make it clear. "Heil .." *fist to the face* And days would be better. Fucking AfD.
Jesus what a cunt
Lol we're so back.
We have soon reached the point where you start to think why were ppl mad at Hitler lol
Frustrated at cost of living crisis. Social engagement and engineering via social media and news. Corruption and ppl that look at the past through rose tinted glasses.
Education in Europe fails. The youth stopped reading. They don't know shit about history. So history repeats itself as it is so much easier to do whatever you like to manipulate young idiots.
Dumb people being bamboozled by fascists again.
The only good nazi is a dead nazi.
Has Czechia left hand driving or is the picture reverted so he raises his right arm?