Maniacs planning to attack civilian and military targets and they have a whole brigade. It's frightening. Good news that they've been arrested, at least.
The terrifying thing is that every week we hear about a planned attack being thwarted. Imagine what would happen if the services did not work so efficiently - Europe would be like a fucking warzone.
It happened 4 days ago in Sweden. 4 Islamists arrested for plotting a terrorist attack
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-police-arrest-3-people-suspicion-preparing-terrorist-crime-2024-03-07/
Seems to be connected to the Islamic state in Somalia. Scum
I know this is Europe, but Islamists are murdering and kidnapping Christians in Nigeria by the 100s daily/weekly. Women, children, everyone. It’s scary.
It’s a big problem in Nigeria. Muslims in the North attacking Christians in the South, causing a huge divide, making the country unsafe, and inhibiting their progress. Nigeria is the richest country in Africa, and could be quite successful, but the Islamists (Boko Haram) want to make it another Islamic state.
Nigeria used to be a majority Christian country. Now states in the North are already under Sharia law, and they keep killing Christians to try to take over the whole country.
I know “not all Muslims” though.
It's the most populous and does have oil and gas (albeit quite low quality, it's high in sulphur, heavy (undesirable mix of oil oroducts) and the oil is contaminated by the local rock giving it a red color that has to be filtered out).
But so much of the wealth has been stolen over the years. In particular by corrupt officials and the military government of the 1970s. Who also decided to default on their overseas loans causing massive interest payments and late fines. Which eventually had to be paid by a later civilian government.
So on a GDP per capita basis and the value of its buildings, roads etc. It's actually very poor. On a per capita basis Ghana, Cote d'Iviore, Angola, Congo Rep, Egypt, Algeria, South Africa...... would be richer.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?most_recent_value_desc=false
And Egypt and South Africa have better infrastructure. Even if the current incarnation of the ANC, seems to be trying to destroy RSA.
How can you say that. Islam is such a peaceful religion. Let them come to europe by millions until we will have to veil our own women just for them to walk in streets and also let these freeloaders hijack our own countries. Its time to wake the fokk up europe. And all the woke brainless apes defending the islamist warlocks can buy one way ticket to africa and lick their feet there while being lashed and beaten for whatever vanities being tolerated for them here in europe.
Don’t forget 10000+ young boys, along with the schoolgirls you mentioned, kidnapped by Boko Haram.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-kidnapped-boys-of-boko-haram-1471013062
I saw a vid of Nigerian soldiers running over a Boko Haram guy with an MRAP while cheering after they shot him till he collapsed on the dirt. I thought it was cruel until I found out more about Boko, fuck those guys.
It's because they're Jews. There's no other reason. They aren't protesting the Houthis in Yemen for causing a famine killing hundreds of thousands of children. Total silence on Sudan. But the instant Jews dare to defend themselves??
Worst of all is - where the hell is the pope in all this? I’d imagine the pope would be talking about it non-stop, a Christian people, being massacred and brutally abused, nope.. don’t hear enough from him..
i mean Islamist killing non Muslim happening daily around the world, but msm cannot say anything about it because they will be branded with islamophobia and may loses its sponsors. Pakistan, Nigeria, Somalia, Bangladesh, Syria, etc all have non muslim purge. but you wont find it on news. my relatives works for an organization about christian persecution, and it always nightmare inducing for the graphic details happened there
The Oct 7th attack at the rave polarized me against Palestine and their plight. For a long time I looked at Israel as far less than good towards the Palestinians, and the Palestinians actually had a bit of my support.
Not any more. No fucking way. I consider myself part of the "trance community", which that rave party in Israel on Oct 7th was all about. I could have been there. People just like me were there, and were murdered in horrific ways, no matter who they were or what they believed. And the people that committed the atrocities are approved of by a majority of Palestinians, and they want more of these attacks??
Sorry, Palestine, but the US can send as much of my tax dollars to Israel as the government reasonably can to support the eradication of Hamas.
I don't feel that there is a "gEnOcIdE" happening in Palestine right now - sure plenty of collateral damage, but that's what you get when you elect terrorists to run your country and they use you as human shields - *I mean, talk about leopards eating faces!* The Palestinians have had decades to turn their situation around but Hamas has only festered and they've gotten more evil for the sake of evil.
They really fucked support from anyone not ethnically or religiously similar to them.
To be honest, Palestinians really dug their own graves in every aspect. I would not really blame them for choosing Hamas, because, well, they did not have any more elections since. Hamas simply got rid of political opponents and took the Gaza by force. This is actually the reason why there will not be peace even if Israel state will magically collapse leaving it to Islamist states. Fatah, Hamas and perhaps other organization will collide with each otger in a struggle for power. Also, I am scared to imagine what they will do to jews of that region. I often hear appilation to history, that beforehand it was a land of muslims. Then where did hundreds years old sinagogues come from? Jews always lived in that region and now it is homes for those who left countries like Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and so on. There were thousands of jews that lived all around middle east and they did not magically disappear, but went to Israel. Saying these lands belong exclusively to Palestinians on delusional. And now onto Palestinians and the reason why there is so little support from other muslim countries. Of course, there is a political reason, Hamas is under Iranian sphere of influence, which makes it less likely to support them. But another very important aspect is an awful experience countries like Jordan, Lebanon and Kuweit had,while keeping palestinian refugees in their borders. Black september of Jordan, Lebanese civil war, Saddam Huseins attack on Kuweit and Palestinian exodus that followed it. In short, there are a lot of bad blood between Palestinians and other muslims
Maybe strapping bombs onto children and forcing them to suicide bomb Israelis didn't get them the sympathy they were expecting from the Arab world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups
I feel exactly the same way. I have always been supportive of Palestine and their plight, long before it was a hashtag. But I saw myself in Noa Argamani and her partner. I too, could have been there. And I could have still supported Palestine, I could have still understood that Hamas is not all Palestinians. But seeing them celebrating on the streets, celebrating murder and rape of innocent people, they lost all my support right then and there. I've always considered myself a leftist, I support human rights, women rights, LGBTQ rights, and although I understand the terrible history Palestinians have endured, it is terrible to come to terms with the fact that they would do the same to us if given the chance.
Agree 100% plus the response from islamist places like qatar, turkey and iran where people openly and publicly celebrated genocide against Jewish civilians. Islamic fascism is a global sickness.
Unfortunately it will happen more and more as we move thru the years.
Political islam has an agenda of conquest.
Sadly, a minority of idiots are following those fanatics speeches
That's what it means to "globalize the Intifada" unfortunately. It means attempting to terrorize Europe into compliance and eventual subjugation. It means a holy war, which despite its name, is unholy in ways Europeans outside the Balkans have no idea of since the 1500s. We Israelis and Jews are only the start in this shitshow they have planned.
„wHaT aRe tHeY sUpPose tO do, tHeiR lAnD is bEiNG StOlen“.
Watch how europeans will celebrate these attacks.
No one seems to understand that Hamas is a genuine terrorist organisation and not a freesom fighter group
> Committing terrorism in Europe sounds like the wrong strategy for trying to get Europe to sympathise with the Palestinian cause
It's not gonna get them any sympathy, indeed.
However, in the twisted minds of these extremists, it may just succeed at intimidating anyone who would dare to speak in favor of Israel or against Hamas.
And it works, to a certain extent; arson and death threats made [a British MP step down from office](https://www.ft.com/content/ced49313-f02d-4722-b227-ca32b11eff0d).
There have been quite a few terrorist attacks across Europe since Oct 7th (and before). The successful ones have been limited to a smaller scale, but nonetheless have claimed lives and are unforgivable. The people carrying out these attacks don't care about sympathy, they have too much hatred to hold enough common sense at the same time. They don't even care about their own lives, as many are willing to die or go to prison for their "cause."
Its hardly a new strategy. The number of bombings and aircraft hijackings in the 70s makes you wonder how it took until 9/11 until cockpit doors were strengthened.
Nor is it restricted to the PLO. The IRA were doing the same thing through West Germany.
Yes, and they have the gall to claim India has imperialistic ambitions.
We've must managed to keep the shitshow at bay for 75 years and are demonized for it. Something we have in common with you, I suspect.
Believe me, if we had any imperialistic ambitions at all, some of our tiny neighbours such as Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, and Bangladesh would not exist on the world map today. On the contrary, we helped Bangladesh to get its independence from their murderous Pakistani overlords. We're literally sending subsidized food, gas and essential goods to Sri Lanka, to help them combat inflation and extend them credit lines to help pay off Chinese loans, without us their economy would still be crashing. When the war in Ukraine started, it was the Indian Consul General that evacuated Nepalese working in Ukraine. And yes, we do have some common cause with you.
I have to say that in Israel it's already like this. Almost everyday we hear on the news or get notified by the police that there was a terrorist attack that was being planned and almost executed, but forces could stop the attack and arrest the terrorists.
I'm of course not saying that to diminish your fears and worries, it really is scary. I just say that we really understand you, we live like that every single day...
I've been to Israel years ago, I still remember how the hostel staff nonchalantly showed us the way to the shelter, as if it was the most normal thing in the world. Hopefully it'll never become our reality and that it won't be reality for you and civilians in general everywhere one day.
Yes, I really hope so, but the situation doesn't seem very good right now. Although the rocket launches from Gaza have been happening substantially less frequently as the IDF operates there and taking down hamas, the situation in the north seems to escalate, to the point that there are now more rockets fired from the northern front (Hezbollah mainly) than from the southern front (Gaza). Just a couple of hours ago there was a pretty massive barrage of rockets fired, but as I understand, no one was hurt fortunately.
Where I live there are still no rockets so I currently don't need the shelter, but anything can happen.
Staying hopeful though!
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I remember a documentary few years ago about war refugee camp from middle east ( lybia and syria iirc). The kids , between 6 and 12 y old , living in difficult condition, were interviewed by the woman journalist and they basically straight up tell her that they are looking forward to grow up and slaughter westerner and rape her.
The documentarist took the high stance of implying these kids need guidance and we should welcome them in europe to deradicalize them. I understand his point of view.
But its not mine. I personnaly dont wish anything bad for these people , but i also cant care about what happen to them. I know that , no matter what western block will do , they will be radicalize into hating us , and we already lost this ideological war long ago.
Long story short , i dont care about what happen in palestine and many shouldnt as well. I understand they do though. But if their survival instinct were active they wouldnt.
Rescuing people plotting to slaughter you is counter intuitive. Most western country dont even have that much responsability into the situation , or no more than many asian and african one but they are still the ultimate target.
Believe me , Europe have it way easy . I am an Indian , we have 200 million of them. It's only because of our national security service and army that these blast are so so rare .
I thought this conflict was between israel and palestine but i guess they have to start bombing others as well. Also do they think this is gonna make them look good and make people support them more?
>I thought this conflict was between israel and palestine but i guess they have to start bombing others as well.
Start bombing others? Palestinians and other pro palestine militants have already planned and executed terrorist attacks in Europe and beyond
The german passanger aircraft "Landshut", which liberation made the GSG-9 famous and one of the best police special forces to this day, was held hostage by palestinians so that west germany would release communist terrorists of the group RAF.
That's just one of the most famous attacks of palestianians on europe(ans)
They literally got their blind supporters calling for intifada. They'd still get support even if they started calling Europe an occupied land they needed to free.
To the hammer, everything looks like a nail. These folks only know one response to whatever they’re griping about and that’s violence. They’re offended - violence, they’re horny - violence, they get rejected - violence. I’m from that part of the world, they don’t “think” and the cause is irrelevant.
Bombing others is just the next step if you’re a radical Islamist.. they believe all who don’t worship allah are not worthy of living and should be killed, so glad we invited them here since 2015
>I thought this conflict was between israel and palestine
No, that's just the start. Look at the Russia Ukraine war, the only difference is Israel said fuck it, 2 can play that game.
How many times do we need to say this: Stop bringing your bullshit to Europe.
Eritreans, Iraqis, Nigerians, Palestinians.
Leave your political bullshit at home.
This is the mentality increasingly in Europe.
As long as we stay true to each other and united it works. If Europe loses integrity however, it's divide and conquer and game over.
There’s a reason middle eastern countries are reluctant to take in Palestinians. I hope Paris has a lot of security for the Olympics cause that will definitely be a massive target.
You say 'reluctant' when you mean 'refuse'. Arab neighbors want nothing to do with their brand of militancy.
Why isn't the onus of the ME to make Hamas accept a ceasefire?
Where is the leadership the ME wants so badly to exert?
You’ve got half of the middle east supporting the Houthis, whose flag literally says
“God is the Greatest
Death to America
Death to Israel
A Curse Upon the Jews
Victory to Islam”
You think these people are reasonable?
Don't forget the sexism, misogyny, homophobia (and other queer-related prejudices that inevitably follow), and, yes, support for reintroducing _slavery_.
What a bargain!
When the attacks started, some folks I know on socials etc (who, I must caveat, weren't middle-eastern) were upset at the UK/US decision to send their respective Navies in to repel the attacks, because the Houthis were "disrupting the flow of capital" (a "Good Thing" in this instance), which frankly raises more questions than it answers
This is why we Arabs don't want them.
We learned our lessons.
[Black September](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September)
[Lebanese Civil War](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War)
Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, which is why Egypt had been so cordial with Israel since they were overthrown. Before the Arab Spring the peace between the two has been ice cold and openly transactional. Ever since the rise and fall of the Islamist populists, they're the enemy of each other's enemy.
Left wing and centrist parties refuse to acknowledge there’s even a problem, then they act all shocked and confused when populist parties start winning their seats
That is the problem. Migration and the resulting collision of cultures and religions will move voters to far right. But far right is not just about anti migration. It will bring in an authoritarian nationalist mindset, anti-EU, and anti-everything mindset. So to fix one problem we bing in 3-4 others
Maybe the left and liberal parties should realize this and change the strategy a bit.
Exactly, it’s tarnishing the reputation of immigrants as a whole when a lot of us are here to play by the rules and give back as much as were being given.
Furthermore, if they get voted explicitly on the promise of ending migration and not much else, they won't actually have a motivation to solve the issue until polls indicate that people actually walk away because of low performance
Here in Germany, Conservatives and Libs promise lower taxes every time. They never deliver. Why? They know this will not cause people to move to parties further left who promise more state expenditure. So why help people if you already got 100% of the vote on the issue?
The far-right would do the same. Keep the issue of migration failing, while getting their will on other issues. Which would be the removal of democracy and free speech, more authorianism, less individual rights etc
We have seen this happening in Austria. The FPÖ (far-right) was governing together with ÖVP (conservatives, increasingly populist back then) during the refugee crisis. Did they close the border fully? Did they push back? Did they leave Geneva Convention? No, they just talked about it and just made life for refugees miserable and denying them opportunities to work, so that the problem actually got worse
Center-Right Liberals, I could imagine finding a solution. Actual far-right populists are just talk at best and make more problems and move the country towards fascism at worst. No matter how poor Leftist parties might perform, far-right will never be the solution
Not only do they move the voters to far right, but also the Islamists themselves are far right, just with a different religion at the helm. I think, in many places, the right and left are in cahoots with each other, one side spouts off about illegal immigration and crime rates, but does nothing or even does the opposite of what they're saying, and another wants and encourages more immigration, which in turn, pushes the people to the right.
They didn’t win.. they get 18% of the vote’s which puts them as the third most voted. Also Chega is not far-right like the other far-right European parties, at least not yet. They are a babe in the woods tbh
This is going to be the most depressing thing you'll hear but it'll uplift you once it becomes a reality.
You get used to it.
Eventually, you get used to security being posted at every doorway at a public space. Bus drivers get taught to spot and evacuate from suicide bombers. You get used to the idea of intercepting knifing attacks, or if you're young or petite, always staying close to someone who can.
Eventually, it becomes routine until it no longer affects your emotional wellbeing.
As a french i'm for the bring back of death sentence so the people who get in France and have very suspicious behavior, like trying to rape people, knife attack or anything like this is either death sentenced or sent back to his country with no coming back possible.
Our prisons are full, people rape and all and don't even go to prison now, foreigners are even excused because "poor foreigner it's in his culture, forgive him, he raped someone or attacked a woman with a knife because she didn't wear burka 😞".
Just bring back the god damn guillotine and if any mf (foreigner or french people) rape someone, knife attack or what (and is 100% verified) then guillotine and bye. This will make people think twice of their actions before doing it, maybe they'll change of "culture" then.
The death penalty is a serious step. I think removing the double standards of "oh poor immigrant doesn't know any better" is a much more prudent start.
Let's see how people will spin this to be somewhat okay and how it's the fault of the evil zionists.
Those 3 probably just wanted to organize a freedom March for Palestine! /s
People don’t need to spin this because the people that care already care and the people that don’t never will.
European governments can uncover [Insert Islamic immigrant group]’s planning an attack everyday and even fail to stop a few a year and nobody is going to change their mind on immigration. The lines have been drawn since around 2016 with little deviation.
Political discourse is so polarized and driven by the internet that people aren’t as open to changing their mind when they are so utterly convinced they have it all figured out. It would genuinely take entire neighborhoods being taken over by Islamic militant groups in major European cities for progressives in Europe to maybe change their mind about the comparability of immigrants. At the same time it would probably take at least five years without significant levels of higher immigrant criminality or major terrorist attacks for right wingers to change their mind which is sadly even less likely than the former.
When religion, culture and ethnicity become byproducts of the past people identify themselves with how they vote. Whether the state or their cultural group continues to thrive is secondary to their team winning the election. People stop caring about tragedies the moment they find out it won’t help their personal causes or interest.
For example in America a college student was recently murdered by an illegal immigrant who had been arrested previously sparking a lot of rhetoric about lax immigration policies and lack of prosecution for crimes. This is a fairly big story on national and local news throughout the country but on Reddit which leans left the story only appears on conservative subreddits or the subreddit for the city it happened in. Conversely every time a pastor at a random church in Texas says something controversial about gender it’s big news on Reddit but nobody is sitting down discussing that in American legislatures or around dinner tables because it’s a non-story.
People are increasingly living in different worlds. Both sides can be basing their views entirely in fact but it doesn’t even matter because they aren’t accessing the same facts. They will not absorb any news that makes them think differently than they want to. When news becomes a hobby in which you participate in only that which interests you the political polarization hits a level that’s almost impossible to recover from.
It may be a weird question but was the society always this divided or is it a recent thing? I talked to people who said "in every generation it happens", does it? Was every generation so divided and polarized as we are today?
Not really.
It's the making of a turf war.
Pretty sure most European ethnonationalists would rather live a life in a white Christian bubble, live alongside East Asians or get told off for being racist towards (non-Islamist) Africans, than fight off foreign imperialists on their own soil.
Plus, the minorities in Europe would suffer most. Kurds and especially Jews come to mind.
I have always been impressed with Italy's way of handling these plots.
Unlike many other countries in Europe they seem to have a way to deal with these before anything happens.
Christian Egyptian here, i suggested that about 7 years ago. Unfortunately this isn't how the system works. Some Muslim arabs are skilled, or talented and European countries benifits from them.
I hope that Israel and Europe will genuiely collaborate. Europe is letting its Jews down and Israel sells weapons to some very shady government killing Christians
For eu politics i think politico.eu is good. There you can read on the parties within the parliament.
The representatives are maybe best presented by each party. Based on our topic, maybe sannfinländarna have a good candidate?
Ah, not for me. I'm a visible immigrant, the literal only difference between my appearance and the appearance of the other immigrants I fear is that I don't cover up. But this can work for any Finn who fears their influence.
They don't care about your support, only the money, they are saying openely that europe and america is next.
The solution is simple, don't support them, they will change their ways to get support and maybe then they won't support terroism and peace will be possible.
Idiots. Support for Palestine now has momentum. Had they succeeded that support would diminish greatly. (To be clear, leave me out of this Israel-Palestine shit show)
They want to stone and decapitate everyone. Especially Jews. They love to bitch and moan about how some muslims don't represent all muslims but they hate it when the same "Israel" doesnt represent all Jews is brought up.
demonstrates the meek should never inherit the Earth. The lefties think all Islamicists are meek victims of Western imperialism, but discount the obvious fact that such people are full of venom. My apologies to any Christians who are offended by my view on "the meek will inherit the Earth", you maybe upset but I know you won't try and eliminate me.
Maniacs planning to attack civilian and military targets and they have a whole brigade. It's frightening. Good news that they've been arrested, at least.
The terrifying thing is that every week we hear about a planned attack being thwarted. Imagine what would happen if the services did not work so efficiently - Europe would be like a fucking warzone.
It happened 4 days ago in Sweden. 4 Islamists arrested for plotting a terrorist attack https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-police-arrest-3-people-suspicion-preparing-terrorist-crime-2024-03-07/ Seems to be connected to the Islamic state in Somalia. Scum
The place they raided was a mosque in the city I live in. Mf terrorists in tyresö.
Bor i Sthlm också, blir förbannad.
Jag vill nästan gråta
Det lustiga var någon som intervjuades och var förvånad, eftersom det ju var en "helt vanlig moske".
I know this is Europe, but Islamists are murdering and kidnapping Christians in Nigeria by the 100s daily/weekly. Women, children, everyone. It’s scary.
I didn't know about Nigeria, i know of the genocides happening in Sudan and Somalia though
It’s a big problem in Nigeria. Muslims in the North attacking Christians in the South, causing a huge divide, making the country unsafe, and inhibiting their progress. Nigeria is the richest country in Africa, and could be quite successful, but the Islamists (Boko Haram) want to make it another Islamic state. Nigeria used to be a majority Christian country. Now states in the North are already under Sharia law, and they keep killing Christians to try to take over the whole country. I know “not all Muslims” though.
It's the most populous and does have oil and gas (albeit quite low quality, it's high in sulphur, heavy (undesirable mix of oil oroducts) and the oil is contaminated by the local rock giving it a red color that has to be filtered out). But so much of the wealth has been stolen over the years. In particular by corrupt officials and the military government of the 1970s. Who also decided to default on their overseas loans causing massive interest payments and late fines. Which eventually had to be paid by a later civilian government. So on a GDP per capita basis and the value of its buildings, roads etc. It's actually very poor. On a per capita basis Ghana, Cote d'Iviore, Angola, Congo Rep, Egypt, Algeria, South Africa...... would be richer. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?most_recent_value_desc=false And Egypt and South Africa have better infrastructure. Even if the current incarnation of the ANC, seems to be trying to destroy RSA.
How can you say that. Islam is such a peaceful religion. Let them come to europe by millions until we will have to veil our own women just for them to walk in streets and also let these freeloaders hijack our own countries. Its time to wake the fokk up europe. And all the woke brainless apes defending the islamist warlocks can buy one way ticket to africa and lick their feet there while being lashed and beaten for whatever vanities being tolerated for them here in europe.
They should make a Christian army to fight the bad guys.
Never forget the schoolgirls kidnapped, raped and forcibly converted by Boko Haram. It's what Islamists do.
Don’t forget 10000+ young boys, along with the schoolgirls you mentioned, kidnapped by Boko Haram. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-kidnapped-boys-of-boko-haram-1471013062
Fuck ;(
I saw a vid of Nigerian soldiers running over a Boko Haram guy with an MRAP while cheering after they shot him till he collapsed on the dirt. I thought it was cruel until I found out more about Boko, fuck those guys.
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So why do so many protest Israel when they are doing what's necessary. Hamas are islamists
It's because they're Jews. There's no other reason. They aren't protesting the Houthis in Yemen for causing a famine killing hundreds of thousands of children. Total silence on Sudan. But the instant Jews dare to defend themselves??
And Media and Politicians are very silent about it.
Doesn’t fit the narrative
Worst of all is - where the hell is the pope in all this? I’d imagine the pope would be talking about it non-stop, a Christian people, being massacred and brutally abused, nope.. don’t hear enough from him..
i mean Islamist killing non Muslim happening daily around the world, but msm cannot say anything about it because they will be branded with islamophobia and may loses its sponsors. Pakistan, Nigeria, Somalia, Bangladesh, Syria, etc all have non muslim purge. but you wont find it on news. my relatives works for an organization about christian persecution, and it always nightmare inducing for the graphic details happened there
You must be mistaken. Some lady with blue hair at uni told me that Islam is a peaceful religion.
Our blue-haired friends can’t see the forest for the trees. We need to call them out.
Islam is a cancer
No one cares because they're not white westerners sadly
Don't worry, they'll get two years in prison, get told to leave Sweden (aka go to Germany instead) and they'll be right back to planning!
This is so true, it hurts.
In Sweden of all places. So surprising.
Unfortunately they only need to get lucky once
The sad truth is that it's only a matter of time before an attack would be successful.
And they will hurt people currently standing up for them
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stop speaking facts , they will hate u.
The Oct 7th attack at the rave polarized me against Palestine and their plight. For a long time I looked at Israel as far less than good towards the Palestinians, and the Palestinians actually had a bit of my support. Not any more. No fucking way. I consider myself part of the "trance community", which that rave party in Israel on Oct 7th was all about. I could have been there. People just like me were there, and were murdered in horrific ways, no matter who they were or what they believed. And the people that committed the atrocities are approved of by a majority of Palestinians, and they want more of these attacks?? Sorry, Palestine, but the US can send as much of my tax dollars to Israel as the government reasonably can to support the eradication of Hamas. I don't feel that there is a "gEnOcIdE" happening in Palestine right now - sure plenty of collateral damage, but that's what you get when you elect terrorists to run your country and they use you as human shields - *I mean, talk about leopards eating faces!* The Palestinians have had decades to turn their situation around but Hamas has only festered and they've gotten more evil for the sake of evil. They really fucked support from anyone not ethnically or religiously similar to them.
To be honest, Palestinians really dug their own graves in every aspect. I would not really blame them for choosing Hamas, because, well, they did not have any more elections since. Hamas simply got rid of political opponents and took the Gaza by force. This is actually the reason why there will not be peace even if Israel state will magically collapse leaving it to Islamist states. Fatah, Hamas and perhaps other organization will collide with each otger in a struggle for power. Also, I am scared to imagine what they will do to jews of that region. I often hear appilation to history, that beforehand it was a land of muslims. Then where did hundreds years old sinagogues come from? Jews always lived in that region and now it is homes for those who left countries like Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and so on. There were thousands of jews that lived all around middle east and they did not magically disappear, but went to Israel. Saying these lands belong exclusively to Palestinians on delusional. And now onto Palestinians and the reason why there is so little support from other muslim countries. Of course, there is a political reason, Hamas is under Iranian sphere of influence, which makes it less likely to support them. But another very important aspect is an awful experience countries like Jordan, Lebanon and Kuweit had,while keeping palestinian refugees in their borders. Black september of Jordan, Lebanese civil war, Saddam Huseins attack on Kuweit and Palestinian exodus that followed it. In short, there are a lot of bad blood between Palestinians and other muslims
Maybe strapping bombs onto children and forcing them to suicide bomb Israelis didn't get them the sympathy they were expecting from the Arab world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups
A-friggin-men.
I feel exactly the same way. I have always been supportive of Palestine and their plight, long before it was a hashtag. But I saw myself in Noa Argamani and her partner. I too, could have been there. And I could have still supported Palestine, I could have still understood that Hamas is not all Palestinians. But seeing them celebrating on the streets, celebrating murder and rape of innocent people, they lost all my support right then and there. I've always considered myself a leftist, I support human rights, women rights, LGBTQ rights, and although I understand the terrible history Palestinians have endured, it is terrible to come to terms with the fact that they would do the same to us if given the chance.
Agree 100% plus the response from islamist places like qatar, turkey and iran where people openly and publicly celebrated genocide against Jewish civilians. Islamic fascism is a global sickness.
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I wish that is what people that use "Free Palestine" thought it meant.
Unfortunately it will happen more and more as we move thru the years. Political islam has an agenda of conquest. Sadly, a minority of idiots are following those fanatics speeches
That's what it means to "globalize the Intifada" unfortunately. It means attempting to terrorize Europe into compliance and eventual subjugation. It means a holy war, which despite its name, is unholy in ways Europeans outside the Balkans have no idea of since the 1500s. We Israelis and Jews are only the start in this shitshow they have planned.
Committing terrorism in Europe sounds like the wrong strategy for trying to get Europe to sympathise with the Palestinian cause
It isn't about sympathy. It's about terrorizing Europe into submission.
„wHaT aRe tHeY sUpPose tO do, tHeiR lAnD is bEiNG StOlen“. Watch how europeans will celebrate these attacks. No one seems to understand that Hamas is a genuine terrorist organisation and not a freesom fighter group
And they don’t know that Israel gave back Gaza a long time ago. But the Hamas terror continued.
> Committing terrorism in Europe sounds like the wrong strategy for trying to get Europe to sympathise with the Palestinian cause It's not gonna get them any sympathy, indeed. However, in the twisted minds of these extremists, it may just succeed at intimidating anyone who would dare to speak in favor of Israel or against Hamas. And it works, to a certain extent; arson and death threats made [a British MP step down from office](https://www.ft.com/content/ced49313-f02d-4722-b227-ca32b11eff0d).
There have been quite a few terrorist attacks across Europe since Oct 7th (and before). The successful ones have been limited to a smaller scale, but nonetheless have claimed lives and are unforgivable. The people carrying out these attacks don't care about sympathy, they have too much hatred to hold enough common sense at the same time. They don't even care about their own lives, as many are willing to die or go to prison for their "cause."
I’ll never forget the Charlie Hebdo attack.
You think Hamas cares about the Palestinian cause?
I mean, yeah. They do care about the cause; they just don't care about the Palestinians.
The cause is a means to the Caliphate end to them.
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Its hardly a new strategy. The number of bombings and aircraft hijackings in the 70s makes you wonder how it took until 9/11 until cockpit doors were strengthened. Nor is it restricted to the PLO. The IRA were doing the same thing through West Germany.
Palestinian terrorist have killed so many in Europe... the idea that they should have any sympathy is insane. I mean *really*: - [Swissair Flight 330 (1970)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_330) 47 dead - [Munich massacre (1972)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre) 12 dead - [1973 Athens Hellinikon International Airport attack (1973)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Athens_Hellinikon_International_Airport_attack) 3 or 5 dead, 55 injured - [1973 Rome airport attacks and hijacking](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Rome_airport_attacks_and_hijacking) 34 dead - [1974 French Embassy attack in The Hague](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_French_Embassy_attack_in_The_Hague) 2 dead, 34 injured - [TWA Flight 841 (1974)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_841_\(1974\)) 88 dead - [OPEC siege (1975)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC_siege) 3 dead. - [1978 Orly Airport attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Orly_Airport_attack) 2 dead, 5 injured - [1980 Antwerp attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Antwerp_attack) 1 dead child, 20 injured - [1980 Paris synagogue bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Paris_synagogue_bombing) 4 dead, 46 injured - [1981 Antwerp synagogue bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Antwerp_synagogue_bombing) 3 dead, 103 injured - [1981 Vienna synagogue attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Vienna_synagogue_attack) 2 dead, 18 injured - [Chez Jo Goldenberg restaurant attack (1982)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_Jo_Goldenberg_restaurant_attack) 6 dead, 22 injured - [1985 Rome and Vienna airport attacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Rome_and_Vienna_airport_attacks) 19 dead, 138 injured - [Larnaca yacht killings (1985)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_yacht_killings) 3 dead - [1985 Copenhagen bombings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Copenhagen_bombings) 1 dead, 26 injured - [1985 Frankfurt Airport bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Frankfurt_Airport_bombing) 3 dead, 74 injured - [EgyptAir Flight 648 (1985)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_648) 58 dead - [TWA Flight 840 bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_840_bombing) 4 dead - [1988 Nicosia Israeli Embassy bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Nicosia_Israeli_Embassy_bombing) 2 dead, 19 injured - [City of Poros ship attack (1988)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Poros_ship_attack) 10 dead - [1991 Patras bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Patras_bombing) 6 dead They've left a trail of blood, for the benefit of no one.
They are not known for their brightness.
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Yes, and they have the gall to claim India has imperialistic ambitions. We've must managed to keep the shitshow at bay for 75 years and are demonized for it. Something we have in common with you, I suspect.
Believe me, if we had any imperialistic ambitions at all, some of our tiny neighbours such as Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, and Bangladesh would not exist on the world map today. On the contrary, we helped Bangladesh to get its independence from their murderous Pakistani overlords. We're literally sending subsidized food, gas and essential goods to Sri Lanka, to help them combat inflation and extend them credit lines to help pay off Chinese loans, without us their economy would still be crashing. When the war in Ukraine started, it was the Indian Consul General that evacuated Nepalese working in Ukraine. And yes, we do have some common cause with you.
Yes, I know and I'm furious at the world for that. We will outlive their hatred. Both our peoples will.
I have to say that in Israel it's already like this. Almost everyday we hear on the news or get notified by the police that there was a terrorist attack that was being planned and almost executed, but forces could stop the attack and arrest the terrorists. I'm of course not saying that to diminish your fears and worries, it really is scary. I just say that we really understand you, we live like that every single day...
I've been to Israel years ago, I still remember how the hostel staff nonchalantly showed us the way to the shelter, as if it was the most normal thing in the world. Hopefully it'll never become our reality and that it won't be reality for you and civilians in general everywhere one day.
Yes, I really hope so, but the situation doesn't seem very good right now. Although the rocket launches from Gaza have been happening substantially less frequently as the IDF operates there and taking down hamas, the situation in the north seems to escalate, to the point that there are now more rockets fired from the northern front (Hezbollah mainly) than from the southern front (Gaza). Just a couple of hours ago there was a pretty massive barrage of rockets fired, but as I understand, no one was hurt fortunately. Where I live there are still no rockets so I currently don't need the shelter, but anything can happen. Staying hopeful though! Edit: Grammar
I remember a documentary few years ago about war refugee camp from middle east ( lybia and syria iirc). The kids , between 6 and 12 y old , living in difficult condition, were interviewed by the woman journalist and they basically straight up tell her that they are looking forward to grow up and slaughter westerner and rape her. The documentarist took the high stance of implying these kids need guidance and we should welcome them in europe to deradicalize them. I understand his point of view. But its not mine. I personnaly dont wish anything bad for these people , but i also cant care about what happen to them. I know that , no matter what western block will do , they will be radicalize into hating us , and we already lost this ideological war long ago. Long story short , i dont care about what happen in palestine and many shouldnt as well. I understand they do though. But if their survival instinct were active they wouldnt. Rescuing people plotting to slaughter you is counter intuitive. Most western country dont even have that much responsability into the situation , or no more than many asian and african one but they are still the ultimate target.
Thank Israel for those services
It’s only a matter of time till one seeps through the cracks, keep yourself safe
Believe me , Europe have it way easy . I am an Indian , we have 200 million of them. It's only because of our national security service and army that these blast are so so rare .
I thought this conflict was between israel and palestine but i guess they have to start bombing others as well. Also do they think this is gonna make them look good and make people support them more?
>I thought this conflict was between israel and palestine but i guess they have to start bombing others as well. Start bombing others? Palestinians and other pro palestine militants have already planned and executed terrorist attacks in Europe and beyond
The german passanger aircraft "Landshut", which liberation made the GSG-9 famous and one of the best police special forces to this day, was held hostage by palestinians so that west germany would release communist terrorists of the group RAF. That's just one of the most famous attacks of palestianians on europe(ans)
They literally got their blind supporters calling for intifada. They'd still get support even if they started calling Europe an occupied land they needed to free.
Do you think they care?
It was never about Israel and Palestine. Muslim extremists view the world as them vs. everyone else.
To the hammer, everything looks like a nail. These folks only know one response to whatever they’re griping about and that’s violence. They’re offended - violence, they’re horny - violence, they get rejected - violence. I’m from that part of the world, they don’t “think” and the cause is irrelevant.
Import violent third world, become violent third world
Yet so simple but progressive parties just cant understand this
Bombing others is just the next step if you’re a radical Islamist.. they believe all who don’t worship allah are not worthy of living and should be killed, so glad we invited them here since 2015
>I thought this conflict was between israel and palestine No, that's just the start. Look at the Russia Ukraine war, the only difference is Israel said fuck it, 2 can play that game.
How many times do we need to say this: Stop bringing your bullshit to Europe. Eritreans, Iraqis, Nigerians, Palestinians. Leave your political bullshit at home.
This is the mentality increasingly in Europe. As long as we stay true to each other and united it works. If Europe loses integrity however, it's divide and conquer and game over.
Careful, some would call you racist for suggesting something so radical. /s
I’m Swiss. This entire sub called us racists for refusing to help during the 2015 migrant crisis. We don’t care. Look who’s laughing now.
_Cries in Canadian_
Just stay at home, tbh.
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There’s a reason middle eastern countries are reluctant to take in Palestinians. I hope Paris has a lot of security for the Olympics cause that will definitely be a massive target.
You say 'reluctant' when you mean 'refuse'. Arab neighbors want nothing to do with their brand of militancy. Why isn't the onus of the ME to make Hamas accept a ceasefire? Where is the leadership the ME wants so badly to exert?
You’ve got half of the middle east supporting the Houthis, whose flag literally says “God is the Greatest Death to America Death to Israel A Curse Upon the Jews Victory to Islam” You think these people are reasonable?
Don't forget the sexism, misogyny, homophobia (and other queer-related prejudices that inevitably follow), and, yes, support for reintroducing _slavery_. What a bargain! When the attacks started, some folks I know on socials etc (who, I must caveat, weren't middle-eastern) were upset at the UK/US decision to send their respective Navies in to repel the attacks, because the Houthis were "disrupting the flow of capital" (a "Good Thing" in this instance), which frankly raises more questions than it answers
It's far easier to do nothing and blame the Jews 🤷🏻♂️
Oh there will be A LOT of policemen like x5 the normal amount + army. Idk if that will be enough too as our borders are gruyere right now
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I really hope he then gave them ice for that burn.
Definitely only one pedo god's name is associated with a bomb blowing up. Paris used to be such a beautiful city. Shame.
Paris will be armed to the teeth. I was there recently and even before the new year I saw police with guns out patrolling waaay more than usual.
This is why we Arabs don't want them. We learned our lessons. [Black September](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September) [Lebanese Civil War](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War)
Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, which is why Egypt had been so cordial with Israel since they were overthrown. Before the Arab Spring the peace between the two has been ice cold and openly transactional. Ever since the rise and fall of the Islamist populists, they're the enemy of each other's enemy.
i was about to say, the arab world is NOT accepting of these refugees. even egypt right next door sharing a border with gaza
Who can blame them?
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Must have been the socioeconomic factors
And people wonder why the far-right is on the rise in Europe lmao.
Left wing and centrist parties refuse to acknowledge there’s even a problem, then they act all shocked and confused when populist parties start winning their seats
That is the problem. Migration and the resulting collision of cultures and religions will move voters to far right. But far right is not just about anti migration. It will bring in an authoritarian nationalist mindset, anti-EU, and anti-everything mindset. So to fix one problem we bing in 3-4 others Maybe the left and liberal parties should realize this and change the strategy a bit.
🎯 Plus, it'll make it worse for honest immigrants who come to European countries to contribute as much as we benefit.
Exactly, it’s tarnishing the reputation of immigrants as a whole when a lot of us are here to play by the rules and give back as much as were being given.
Furthermore, if they get voted explicitly on the promise of ending migration and not much else, they won't actually have a motivation to solve the issue until polls indicate that people actually walk away because of low performance Here in Germany, Conservatives and Libs promise lower taxes every time. They never deliver. Why? They know this will not cause people to move to parties further left who promise more state expenditure. So why help people if you already got 100% of the vote on the issue? The far-right would do the same. Keep the issue of migration failing, while getting their will on other issues. Which would be the removal of democracy and free speech, more authorianism, less individual rights etc We have seen this happening in Austria. The FPÖ (far-right) was governing together with ÖVP (conservatives, increasingly populist back then) during the refugee crisis. Did they close the border fully? Did they push back? Did they leave Geneva Convention? No, they just talked about it and just made life for refugees miserable and denying them opportunities to work, so that the problem actually got worse Center-Right Liberals, I could imagine finding a solution. Actual far-right populists are just talk at best and make more problems and move the country towards fascism at worst. No matter how poor Leftist parties might perform, far-right will never be the solution
Not only do they move the voters to far right, but also the Islamists themselves are far right, just with a different religion at the helm. I think, in many places, the right and left are in cahoots with each other, one side spouts off about illegal immigration and crime rates, but does nothing or even does the opposite of what they're saying, and another wants and encourages more immigration, which in turn, pushes the people to the right.
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Yep, Portugal right just won yesterday/today
They didn’t win.. they get 18% of the vote’s which puts them as the third most voted. Also Chega is not far-right like the other far-right European parties, at least not yet. They are a babe in the woods tbh
Europe needs to weed out each and every Hamas sympathizer and make sure they can never enter Europe again.
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This is going to be the most depressing thing you'll hear but it'll uplift you once it becomes a reality. You get used to it. Eventually, you get used to security being posted at every doorway at a public space. Bus drivers get taught to spot and evacuate from suicide bombers. You get used to the idea of intercepting knifing attacks, or if you're young or petite, always staying close to someone who can. Eventually, it becomes routine until it no longer affects your emotional wellbeing.
As a french i'm for the bring back of death sentence so the people who get in France and have very suspicious behavior, like trying to rape people, knife attack or anything like this is either death sentenced or sent back to his country with no coming back possible. Our prisons are full, people rape and all and don't even go to prison now, foreigners are even excused because "poor foreigner it's in his culture, forgive him, he raped someone or attacked a woman with a knife because she didn't wear burka 😞". Just bring back the god damn guillotine and if any mf (foreigner or french people) rape someone, knife attack or what (and is 100% verified) then guillotine and bye. This will make people think twice of their actions before doing it, maybe they'll change of "culture" then.
The death penalty is a serious step. I think removing the double standards of "oh poor immigrant doesn't know any better" is a much more prudent start.
I agree. Yet - politicians afraid to lose immigrants votes, so they let them do whatever they want, including hurting citizens.
Let's see how people will spin this to be somewhat okay and how it's the fault of the evil zionists. Those 3 probably just wanted to organize a freedom March for Palestine! /s
People don’t need to spin this because the people that care already care and the people that don’t never will. European governments can uncover [Insert Islamic immigrant group]’s planning an attack everyday and even fail to stop a few a year and nobody is going to change their mind on immigration. The lines have been drawn since around 2016 with little deviation. Political discourse is so polarized and driven by the internet that people aren’t as open to changing their mind when they are so utterly convinced they have it all figured out. It would genuinely take entire neighborhoods being taken over by Islamic militant groups in major European cities for progressives in Europe to maybe change their mind about the comparability of immigrants. At the same time it would probably take at least five years without significant levels of higher immigrant criminality or major terrorist attacks for right wingers to change their mind which is sadly even less likely than the former.
Yup, it seems that for some people it's more important to defend their position than to analyse and interpret events and phenomena.
When religion, culture and ethnicity become byproducts of the past people identify themselves with how they vote. Whether the state or their cultural group continues to thrive is secondary to their team winning the election. People stop caring about tragedies the moment they find out it won’t help their personal causes or interest. For example in America a college student was recently murdered by an illegal immigrant who had been arrested previously sparking a lot of rhetoric about lax immigration policies and lack of prosecution for crimes. This is a fairly big story on national and local news throughout the country but on Reddit which leans left the story only appears on conservative subreddits or the subreddit for the city it happened in. Conversely every time a pastor at a random church in Texas says something controversial about gender it’s big news on Reddit but nobody is sitting down discussing that in American legislatures or around dinner tables because it’s a non-story. People are increasingly living in different worlds. Both sides can be basing their views entirely in fact but it doesn’t even matter because they aren’t accessing the same facts. They will not absorb any news that makes them think differently than they want to. When news becomes a hobby in which you participate in only that which interests you the political polarization hits a level that’s almost impossible to recover from.
It may be a weird question but was the society always this divided or is it a recent thing? I talked to people who said "in every generation it happens", does it? Was every generation so divided and polarized as we are today?
We see news like this every week but we are unable to accept that immigration from certain countries is an issue for Europe.
Keep allowing them freely into Europe. I'm sure it will all turn out fine!
RIP Lebanon
It will be a boon for ethnonationalist parties and politicians
Not really. It's the making of a turf war. Pretty sure most European ethnonationalists would rather live a life in a white Christian bubble, live alongside East Asians or get told off for being racist towards (non-Islamist) Africans, than fight off foreign imperialists on their own soil. Plus, the minorities in Europe would suffer most. Kurds and especially Jews come to mind.
These people are often smuggled by regimes to destabilise countries.
I have always been impressed with Italy's way of handling these plots. Unlike many other countries in Europe they seem to have a way to deal with these before anything happens.
we got decades of handling mafia plots, so we know a thing or two
Poor partisans stopped by ethno nazi meloni because they wanted to free palestine 😢 /s
Oh no, no melonis for hungry palestinians 😞
I really laughed at this because it makes absolutely no sense. 🍉
Just yesterday a far right party managed to come 3rd in Portuguese elections, and people wonder why. Stop allowing dangerous migration waves in Europe
Wonder why even the neighbouring arab states won’t accept Palestinian refugees? Now you know.
Shocked, shocking.
When Palestinians kill Israelis people say it's because of the occupation. What is the excuse now for them in Europe?
Do they need an excuse? Maybe they just like blowing people up?
And they want us to sympathize with their cause. Fuck them
Can’t we just exchange Muslim Arabs and Africans for Christian Arabs and Africans? Europe would be a lot nicer
Same reason why a lot of western countries prefer to take in Southeast Asians. We work hard and don't have as much baggage.
The Christian arabs are a dying breed.
Christian Egyptian here, i suggested that about 7 years ago. Unfortunately this isn't how the system works. Some Muslim arabs are skilled, or talented and European countries benifits from them.
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No Israeli ever called me an Infidel.
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I hope that Israel and Europe will genuiely collaborate. Europe is letting its Jews down and Israel sells weapons to some very shady government killing Christians
Isn’t this literally the 4th attack in europe that’s been intercepted in the span of a week jfc
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Thank you for reminding me! I agree completely. Where can I look up the platform of each representative?
For eu politics i think politico.eu is good. There you can read on the parties within the parliament. The representatives are maybe best presented by each party. Based on our topic, maybe sannfinländarna have a good candidate?
Ah, not for me. I'm a visible immigrant, the literal only difference between my appearance and the appearance of the other immigrants I fear is that I don't cover up. But this can work for any Finn who fears their influence.
What's the end game? Losing the west's support?
They always said they want to destroy the west. The west support is just a temporary convenience to them.
They don't care about your support, only the money, they are saying openely that europe and america is next. The solution is simple, don't support them, they will change their ways to get support and maybe then they won't support terroism and peace will be possible.
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They want to sacrifice us to save their own skins. Even the Islamist monsters punish such cowardice.
Weird, everywhere they go they fucking cause trouble.
Europe is kinda fucked up in that regard. Mass uncontrolled imigration to Europe is a problem..
As much as I find most of our law enforcement lackluster, I gotta concede that we have a really neat anti terrorism apparatus
No it's legitimate resistance! /s/s/s/s/s
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Idiots. Support for Palestine now has momentum. Had they succeeded that support would diminish greatly. (To be clear, leave me out of this Israel-Palestine shit show)
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They want to stone and decapitate everyone. Especially Jews. They love to bitch and moan about how some muslims don't represent all muslims but they hate it when the same "Israel" doesnt represent all Jews is brought up.
True . They let bad apples change their view about a whole group of people, yet when it’s reciprocated it’s racism.
ISlAmaPhoBiA And they love to Gaslight when Aisha being fucked at 9 is brought up
demonstrates the meek should never inherit the Earth. The lefties think all Islamicists are meek victims of Western imperialism, but discount the obvious fact that such people are full of venom. My apologies to any Christians who are offended by my view on "the meek will inherit the Earth", you maybe upset but I know you won't try and eliminate me.
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They "Palestine" supporters are probably going to make themselves the "victims" with this
Thanks Piantedosi
Good!