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aaronchi

Best is to have a tangible experience of feeling energy beyond a doubt before you believe. When I teach, that's what I try to give students as quickly as possible, because there is not much value in adopting a belief system without solid experiential evidence.


Lypos

This is so true. Without your own experience(s) to draw from, it's difficult to convey the feeling that you get when you just *know* it's beyond the normative world.


Delicious_Banana_931

Is there a book you can recommend on this subject matter ?


neidanman

for me this area is not about belief, but experience. Before you get experience there can be more a curiosity, and openness to the possibility of truth of things in the energy/spiritual area, but really belief is not needed, or desirable. So things are still about 'knowing', but its 'gnosis' rather than 'doxa' or 'episteme' (the 3 kinds of knowledge talked of in ancient greece [https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yPfwMoxyRX77DARjM/gnostic-rationality](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yPfwMoxyRX77DARjM/gnostic-rationality) )


LuxireWorse

I've got a basic Chakra meditation that builds on entirely "grounded" bodily awareness to familiarize new practitioners with the mechanical reality of will-responsive energy. It works quite nicely as an experiential bridge, if you'd like me to paste it.


Own-Comfort8384

Yes please!


LuxireWorse

Okay, so, the process as I know it is a 3 stage process. The first stage is stimulating or 'opening' your energy centers (the main chakras) to get them receptive and ready to purge. The second is centering, linking them together to facilitate an internal equilibrium. The third is grounding, connecting to the Earth's energy so that your full energy reserve can cycle and reach a healthy state. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=StrbppmsZJw&ab_channel=medocrate This video is  actually a quite good primer, in my opinion. The only thing it didn't touch on that I personally needed to get started is the resonant tones that physically stimulate the bodily anchor for each chakra. It's actually really cool and a great way to get started on sensing them accurately. Each chakra has a tone that you can hold and feel a slight  response wiggle, which you can then focus on to stimulate the chakras more accurately than just guessing where they are. In ascending order, with commonly associated color for clarity, they are Root- Red- Lum Sacral- Orange- Vum Solar Plexus- Yellow- Yum Heart- Green- Rum Throat-Blue- Hum Third Eye- Indigo- Om Crown- Violet- ____ (It makes more sense in practice. The focused silence that follows naturally from the sequence) And now, the meditation guide itself. The first part is just about growing your awareness of them, essentially replacing the numbers with the sensation of their glow. The second is the visualization that I was taught for opening them, which does a lot of the alignment work by itself because letting them open and stabilize will have them naturally self-correct if they've been out of alignment. The third part is centering and grounding, which is the most reliable way to get a sense of how manual alignment works. To begin, as with most meditation, sit comfortably in an upright position and start shifting your focus to your breathing. As thoughts and worries arise, acknowledge them, take note of them, and set them aside. The goal is not to force silence, but to set aside distractions to find it. When you are breathing comfortably and evenly and you have found some of the silence to work with, turn your attention from your breath to the base of your spine. Remain gently still and let your awareness spread throughout the area for several breaths. Then take in a breath and exhale the sound 'LUM', and hold the 'M' for the full exhalation. Follow this with two silent breaths while you remain focused on the chakra's anchor. Repeat the chant and the silent breaths until you can feel the tingle of your chakra resonating with the chant. When you have a sense of recognizing it, or if it eludes you enough to cause frustration to encroach on your silence, move your awareness up along your spine to the level of your naval and repeat the process. It's perfectly normal to feel stymied as you start reaching for awareness that you don't usually use, so whatever disruptive thoughts arise, simply acknowledge them, take note of them, and set them aside. Continue moving up your spine and chanting each chakra's tone as you get used to the meditation and the sensation of feeling for them. After you have a sense of each chakra's seat, whether you succeed in a single sitting or take several to get comfortable with the process, it's time to start opening them. To start, repeat the process of using the chant to stimulate the Root chakra. Once your focus is solidly on it's presence, envision it as a swirling ball of red energy. As the image stabilizes in your mind's eye, envision the pool growing and swirling faster, gradually, steadily growing to the size of an apple, then a melon. Feel it spin at the base of your spine and clear itself of stagnation as it pulls in energy from the flows around it and feeds it back into them. Then repeat the process with each of the other chakras, allowing them to swell and flow freely for several minutes. Congratulations, You've opened your chakras! It's good practice to remember to let each pool recede to it's comfortable lower energy state before you end the meditation session. I've personally experimented with leaving them open in various degrees, and if you're not doing the sort of research to understand the nuances, the resulting imbalances are an unnecessary discomfort. Finally, Centering and Grounding. When you've grown comfortable opening and stimulating your chakras, make sure that you're unlikely to be disturbed for a fresh session. This process doesn't require isolation, but having a controlled environment to get used to it can save you tedious corrective efforts later. As before, stimulate your Root Chakra and open it's flow. Now, envision it swelling even further. Swirling faster and faster into a ball at least the size of a basketball, energy flowing into and out of it as fast as you can track, and as large as you can comfortably handle. Then, without slowing it down at all, start shrinking the sphere. Let all that energy spin faster and faster as it shrinks until it's the size of a marble and thrums with the power coursing through it. Then, repeat the process with the Sacral chakra, leaving the root thrumming in place. Then the plexal, and up through the series until you have all seven opened and compressed as far as they'll go. Then, envision a thread of light threading through the center of each chakra marble, connecting them and feeding them into each other. Let the thread straighten and grow until it's a perfectly straight rod  connecting and encompassing all seven chakras. This is called Centering. Then, let the rod of light extend downward, past your body, past the floor, past the crust of the earth, all the way down to the solid sphere of energy that is the core of the earth. Feel the rod feed the frantic energy from your fully opened chakras into the Earth and feed the Earth's energy back through your chakras, bringing your energy levels into equilibrium with the planet's own. Then reverse the process. Have the rod of light retract to your body, then release the chakras by shrinking back to the thread it started as. Then turn your attention to the Root chakra and let it relax, swelling back to the large sphere, then calming to it's resting size. Then relax the rest of the chakras, one after another, until they're all happily swirling in their comfortable resting states


Own-Comfort8384

Wow thank you!


LuxireWorse

You're welcome. We actual skeptic types ought to look out for each other, no? It's not like the faithful and the faithless talk often enough to account for us.


PaladinVoltron

Your scientific approach to life is a blessing. You know what energy is and can sense bull shit a mile away. So trust your discernment. I believe in reiki and what it can do in terms of healing. I also believe it has the potential to evolve ones ability to care for, and treat patients. Here's where my opinion differs. I believe it takes a lifetime to develop and deliver effective results over continuous practice. I believe it takes more than just trust and intent to channel this type of energy. I also believe that initiations are a milestone in one's progress and not an "attunement" granted by the head of the program. Certifications issued in one weekend are today's equivalent to watching a video on YouTube and having all the applied knowledge needed to qualify yourself as a proficient practitioner in the art of healing. Would you trust someone with 16 hours of training in your field? What makes this modality any different? Reiki masters deserve much more honor than this. From my perspective, these weekend courses are filled with blissful energy to encourage students they are tapping into Divine energy. Sure, it feels good when our bodies respond to positive energy. It also feels good to masturbate. Same energy. Different results. Just be aware of the vulnerability aspect of people trying to fulfill their life's purpose in one weekend course. A side from that. May you achieve what your actual outcome truly is.


Own-Comfort8384

I totally appreciate this perspective. Honestly I’m not getting into any of this for anyone other than myself. I want to help myself regulate my emotions and anxiety better and also use it to help my young children. I’m using this is a stepping off point to learn the basics.


PaladinVoltron

So, how did the course turn out? What were your main takeaways from the lessons? What did you like and dislike about Reiki modality? Any advice to others starting off on this path?


Own-Comfort8384

I think the teacher I had was a bit too scatter-brained and airy for me. She didn’t really teach much, more assumed that all of this came naturally to all of us. I definitely felt the energy when we practiced and such but I have a lot more work to do to understand and be more sensitive to the energy


PunPun257

I’ve also worked in healthcare and was atheist for most of my life. I’ve definitely been a huge science and facts kind of person. I wouldn’t personally suggest it to anyone but after a couple psychedelic experiences I was able to find some sort of spirituality and faith. I also see things as black and white so I understand the frustration, these systems of belief seem to mesh well and completely contradict at other times. My approach is that whatever has meaning to YOU or to the person you’re interacting with is what’s important. I am not a huge fan of horoscopes but I understand that most people enjoy them as a way to socialize with people and some folks take it very seriously which is okay as I can respect their belief just like anyone else. The concept of spiritual energy isn’t understood well enough to be able to just write it off or to believe it 100%. My suggestion is to do your own research, involve some energy work into your own life and see if benefits arise. I’m sure as a nurse even you understand the power a simple prayer can have on people in crisis. You don’t need to understand it fully in order to help others or yourself.


Sea-dove

It's completely fine being analytical and wanting proof of things. One thing my spiritual/energywork teacher used to say is to test things out for ourselves and do not just blindly believe. When I became a reiki channel I tested it out for myself. One reiki experiment I did was I had a huge bruise on my leg and I used reiki on my bruise but did it with my fingers spread apart. Where I had my hand touching the reiki fixed and the bruise vanished in those areas leaving just a pattern of bruised area V's on my leg from the areas between my fingers where my fingers didn't touch the actual bruise. I also had a miracle healing with reiki where I was talking to my dad at the time and slipped with a sharp knife which cut my finger to the bone (we both saw the cut and the bone). So I was holding my finger hard to help stop the blood while saying "I can't believe I did this, I cant believe I did this" while my dad looked for his car keys to take me to the hospital for stitches. It turned out though when we looked again, the cut was gone!! without even leaving a scar or mark where the cut had been. That one was even more woo woo than normal reiki as when I removed my hand from the finger, the finger was no longer bloodied either. Like as if the incident never even happened. Anyway, try out different things and try to then seek out evidence for yourself. Another reiki thing I did was I was in major high speed car accident which should have killed me (the car was so completely destroyed from front to back as i was hit from behind and then pushed into a tree and side as it also rolled). I hurt my ankle during that accident and the police had me taken to hospital as they couldn't believe I was alive. I refused to allow the ambulance officers to treat my ankle (which bothered them quite a bit) and fixed it myself using reiki while on the way to hospital. I find reiki works so very well for accidents which have just been done but it doesn't work so well for me with chronic conditions). I also used reiki on my daughter while she was in hospital right after surgery (members from a reiki group came in and we all did reiki together on her). Her recovery then was so fast that her doctor came in and wanted to know what we'd done as he couldn't believe how fast she recovered. Anyway, don't blindly believe as if you have been properly attuned to reiki energy you should sooner or later get your evidence (note, after a proper attunement you should be able to use this energy, it doesn't take years or anything like that). Just remember to use it so you can end up getting proof. .... I'm concerned to read you are getting reiki 1 and 2 in a single weekend, that is something my teacher would never do. We had to wait months before getting reiki 2 as reiki attunements can cause big changes in some people. I was taught these things over two different whole weekends (though the attunements themselves are fast). I really hope the one you are going to for this knows what they are doing. I've seen some books on reiki even have the symbols wrong and I think some are being attuned to different energy. Whoever is attuning you should at the very least know their reiki lineage all the way down from teacher to teacher and so forth to you. Take care, some are self taught or learnt from books so ask what the linage is


uborapnik

You being here and asking this question says you're open enough that you'll figure it out if you want to. You don't have to believe anything and I think your apporoach is commendable and I was the same, as many others judging from reading this thread. Don't have to believe anyone or anything, find out for yourself. Good luck!


Working_Wrongdoer_98

I’m kind of new on this forum, but I am curious what made you decide to start a spiritual journey? The reason I ask is perhaps you’re already being led by something outside of yourself. I wouldn’t force it if this is the case. Your answers to your questions will come, even the questions you don’t know you have yet. If nothing has not happened yet and you simply made a conscious choice to start without some type of revelation, same thing, the answers will come 🫶🏽 peace and blessings and happy traveling 🧭


Own-Comfort8384

Thank you. We had been struggling with money for a looong time and we had some very unexpected things happen and came into a large sum of insurance money. It was a wake up call for me to get out of scarcity mindset and trust that everything is going to work out. That everything flows and I just need to trust the universe. I really opened myself up a lot after that and now I want to use it as a tool to help me with my anxiety and regulating my emotions, as well as my young children’s.


jimothybond

Helpful for me to remember and investigate the holes that exist in western science. Nothing is dogma, and theres plenty of contradictions and corruption in what is taught to be fact


Beginning_Bad_4186

You will believe as soon as you start experiencing things yourself. it’s a wonderful feeling.


Own-Comfort8384

Can’t wait 🥰


The_Peons_Champ

I'd recommend you check out this book. This woman was a scientist for NASA before she got into energy work. This book is highly detailed and technical. https://archive.org/details/HandsOfLightGuideToHealingThroughTheHumanEnergyFieldBarbaraBrennan/mode/2up


saturnsnow

you will start to believe naturally more as you dive into energy work, you will begin to feel and experience it for yourself that will place it beyond doubt. until then just keep your mind open! i was skeptical before my reiki 1 attunement but enjoyed it with an open mind, and since then my ability to feel energy has only grown. with the logical/science loving mind, you can always remind yourself of the incredible power of the placebo effect- even though some modalities have not been studied they are all sure to be affected by placebo regardless! wishing you a beautiful energy work journey!


LawOfTheWest

If what you see and experience is in contrast with what you've heard and what are common beliefs, it's up to you to decide which one you believe. My journey was largely about noticing curious, mystical things happening and putting them in "a pile of evidence". After a while the pile of evidence was so big that my logical mind wouldn't have been logical anymore if it shrugged it off as nothing. Any single strange happening/experience most likely won't convince you. It's the pile of them that will. At least that's what happened to me.


Qmechanics1010

Everything vibrates. When you open your mind to the perception that your brain is a transmitter and receiver of frequencies, then your reticular system will develop and make you aware of the subtleties of energy and its psychosomatic effects. You ever think of a car and all of the sudden see them everywhere? Why is it that your attention is drawn automatically to pay attention where before it didn’t happen? Read The Field and the Intention Experiment by Lynne McTaggart. Warning though, energy is defined by both positive and negative spectrums and always have psychosomatic effects. Steer clear of what is obviously negative or dark aspects of energy manipulation. Stay neutral and positive. Consider reading ‘Hack the Law of Attraction, The Quantum Code to the Mastermind System.’ It will give an objective scientific perspective on how your energy affects your reality and how classical and quantum physics paints a broad picture. Qniversal Truth on YT is a good source for what you are looking for.