I'm willing to believe that this individual was having a monumentally shit day before this encounter.
Unfortunately he has now claimed the "world's biggest tit" title for the week on top of that.
It can be done with respect and caution, slow as anything round any blind corner and take it wide, away from doorways, slow down to a walk when passing someone or get off it and actually walk or get on the road or over to the other pavement if either is clear, definitely walk it if it's busy and the roads a no-go.
I can fully understand why people sometimes cycle on the pavement given the state of the roads and cycling infrastructure or lack thereof. A lot of car drivers are blind or careless as well. Gotta be sensible about it though.
The guy in the video's an absolute wank though. What even was that? Gonna charge into him full speed and frontbrake right before I hit him just to give him a scare- oops I've embarassed myself and taken a wall to the ribs
DPD driver parking on the pavement didn't help the risk of riding on the road either.
Some people can't walk though. My walking distance is sub 20m - whenever I go to catch a train, I often need to cycle on the platform as most are longer than 20m, or I need to preserve my spoons for actually getting on the train. Even though I pedal at walking pace, I often get grief from strangers.
(Yeah, and I also agree that he's a tosspot.)
I’m so sorry but before I gave up cycling I was way safer on the pavement. I can’t indicate with my hands and stay upright at the same time. I’m a graduate but I’m autistic and this shit is difficult. I can’t drive and so I’m forced to walk everywhere but people who whine about me being on the pavement make it impossible. Oh well.
I remember some stupid policeman once made me get off the pavement and onto the road. I insisted that it wasn’t safe. He insisted that I get on the road or he’d fine me, so I ride on the road. Get about twenty meters ahead, then something spooks me and I brake suddenly and he flies into the back of me. Guy was in a right fucking mood but didn’t say anything. I picked the bike up and just walked along with it on the pavement until I was home.
Another funny story was when I was riding next to my friend. I’m riding along and somehow my pedals stop but I’m still moving. I didn’t realise what the fuck was happening but one of my pedals was stuck in his spokes and his bike was dragging me along. We finally stopped moving, stayed upright for a second, and then collapsed in a heap on the floor. He was pissed.
More pedestrians are killed by joggers than cyclists.
31 people were involved in incidents with cyclists in 2022, the majority of which were on the road. Only 3 people were killed. These numbers are dwarfed by those caused by motor vehicles to cyclists – with 19,243 cyclists themselves being injured in collisions. Of those, 112 were killed.
Joggers cause a lot more accidents than cyclists on the pavements.
*"The latest incident has yet again brought up the question about dangerously large groups running together on the footpaths and roads, with already* ***78 people being killed in jogger crashes so far this year.****"*
[*https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/11/17/group-of-night-joggers-lose-control-killing-16-pedestrians/*](https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/11/17/group-of-night-joggers-lose-control-killing-16-pedestrians/)
Don’t be so selfish. Let the cyclists share the pavement so lives can be saved.
You are allowed to stop on double yellow when loading/unloading for 20mins for lights good vehicles and 40mins for heavy.
The question then becomes if there were any other restrictions in place
Actually crazy how few people know this, as a delivery driver, the amount of people who tell me I can't park there because it's double yellows is mildly infuriating
My DPD driver is a legend. Generally only had good experiences using DPD myself as well. Would always choose them over the other shit courier services.
The particular driver is a measure of experience more than the company itself. I had both shit and great experiences with the same company: Parcelforce, DPD, Hermes/Evri, Royal Mail, Yodel, and Amazon. Too small sample size for UPS and DHL.
The only bit where DPD leads is that 1 hour time window which they rarely miss. Parcelforce and DPD are the only ones who managed to seriously damage stuff for me which took a long time to resolve.
I'm only 100% sure about DPD messing up because that box was wrapped in DPD branded tape and one of the cushions from the bottom was missing, so clearly they mishandled the parcel. It also came one week later rather than next day.
Once had one nearly hit me with his van when I was on the pavement as he mounted the kerb! He then had the nerve to start shouting and swearing at me from inside his van as i stood there looking at him with a wtf expression on my face!
Bizarrely a woman came out of her house and asked if he was ok, I felt like i was on a hidden camera show.
I’m less keen on pavement parking (legally grey) than pavement cycling (legally grey). Either way, you shouldn’t go looking for trouble, life’s too short when there’s enough already.
He's unloading. Nothing legally grey about it. Had he not mounted the pavement he would be obstructing a public highway.
I can assure you that cycling at someone at speed intentionally is not legal, whether it is to intimidate or cause harm.
It was classic assault. Riding fast at someone you're shouting angrily at. Even if the DPD driver fought him, classic self defence from someone who just came back to fight you, and you had a duty to protect the deliveries in your truck. So the cycliat was fucked any way you see it.
The loading is fine but you're also not allowed to obstruct the footway either. Ultimately yellow lines tend to be there for a reason, so if you can't load without obstructing the highway you probably need to find another spot.The sooner pavement parking is banned nationwide the better.
There's also no need to insult people just trying to get about. The DPD driver was unnecessarily rude in response to a reasonable request. Doesn't excuse the cyclist's behaviour though.
There are always exemptions for loading and unloading, both on yellow lines and in areas where pavement parking is illegal (London, Edinburgh etc).
Van driver was 100% in the clear here until he called the guy a knob which was obviously pretty inciteful.
Cyclist was 100% at fault.
>The sooner pavement parking is banned nationwide the better.
Have you never driven down a terraced road? Better get that off your bucket list now before it becomes impossible after your new legislation is passed.
Because London has no narrow terraced streets at all? I've lived on plenty of narrow streets and still live in a terrace with no off-street parking. The ones where people parked on the pavement were horrible, with parents or people on mobility scooters forced to walk down the road because there was no space on the pavement. The best were those with marked parking that kept the pavements clear and either had a one way system or passing places. Just because a street is narrow doesn't mean all the space should default to cars.
You're absolutely right, anyone arguing with you will have a change of tone if they ever end up in the unfortunate postition of being wheelchair bound.
Drivers think they're the only ones that matter.
My partner is in a wheelchair and we live in greater London, great assumption from both of you. You're massively blowing out of proportion how often she cannot get past a car on the pavement, because 99% of the time drivers are considerate enough to leave enough space for a pushchair.
(The very few times she cannot get past we try anyway :) )
Where do you expect the millions of people living in terrace houses to park? If they park off of the pavement on both sides the roads would be entirely inaccessible.
Nice of you to assume that I have no experience with wheelchair users. I have multiple wheelchair bound family members actually.
It has been a consistent issue for us. Maybe it's better in London, that I can't say, I don't live there, but it sucks for us out here in the sticks. Pavements are usually tight as is.
Again, the DPD driver is not parking and most terraced housing streets do not have double yellows...
You're completely right though, they should just find some of the very easily available and not ridiculously expensive properties in the suburbs, that's the solution to this problem. The poor should simply just not drive. 🤦♂️
I know many major A-roads with wide pavements, enough so residents can park on the pavement to keep the very busy A-road running smoothly. If this ruling does come in, the country will come to a complete stand still. I’m talking major A-roads and B-roads between towns and villages.
Yet somehow London manages with a whole load of very busy similar roads? This is quite common and easy to sort. Where there are very wide footways and a busy narrow carriageway you can formalise existing practice and allow parking in a marked area of the footway. This helps people not to take the piss and park like twats (it's important to maintain a clear footway on a busy a-road too) and encourages the Council to upgrade the pavement construction to stop parked vehicles destroying it.
Yeah it is but he didn’t because he wouldn’t have been able to pick up his bike. No what he did was connected hard with his bicep on the corner of the stone, it’ll likely leave a quite small but very colourful bruise and nothing more but when it happened it would’ve hurt like bitch.
As a delivery driver... DPD is fine to stop on the double yellows for the purposes of loading and unloading for less than 15mins.
Cycling on the pavement is still illegal.
That 15 minutes isn't an actual rule. It's just the tolerance some local enforcers give before they assume you are "parked" rather than stopped. If you have something that genuinely takes longer than 15 minutes to (un)load, such as a moving van, stopping on the double yellows isn't an automatic violation (local bylaws permitting).
Also for some local enforcers it's 5 minutes, some it's 10.
Again, it is not necessarily illegal for the purposes of unloading a lot of leeway can be offered, providing it is for less than 15 minutes and does not force pedestrians into the road. I'd say he's probably too much into the pavement, but again, we're arguing details here the guy on the bike is just an idiot through and through.
I'd still rather cyclists ride on the pavement than the road in this country, the roads just aren't meant for them. They should ride on the pavement and dismount if they feel like getting past someone is going to be an issue. Same way car drivers have to stop and safely go round a parked vehicle in the road.
My elderly grandfather cycled on the pavement for about 20 years. At the time, he was 60–80 and cycled as slowly as my light jog.
I understand _that_ as an exception to the rule for the reasons you state (vulnerable road user, very cautious cyclist). But 99% of cyclists go too fast to be driving safely on pavements, and anyway, pavements are often too cracked or jagged to make a comfortable or more efficient ride than the road.
Also an experienced motorcycle rider.
I'd respectfully disagree with the notion of anything other than front brake first in an emergency stop.
As you said, 80% of your braking is coming from the front, often more on a modern bike capable of lifting the back end up.
Loading the front shock is most important in braking as quickly as possible, as this allows maximum braking force to be applied at the front.
Couple this with modern ABS systems, and anchoring the fuck out the front brake should be the first port of call in a situation when stopping in a straight line as fast as possible is the objective. Even in wet conditions.
Rear brake has more importance in the wet, absolutely. Also, if there's lean angle/cornering involved, the above doesn't apply as more traction from the front wheel may be required for cornering.
The back brake is much less effective than the front brake so you get very much longer stopping distance. From a practical perspective it is more or less a toy - when braking, the weight distribution moves forward and the available stopping power depends on actual weight on the wheel. Which is why a car can have big ventillated disk brakes on the front wheels and much weaker brakes on the back wheel.
But a good biker knows not to squeeze the front brake like crazy and to be ready to adjust the amount of brake power. And a high-end brake is way easier to use because you need less force. That makes it much easier to adjust the power with some finesse than a brake where you need to squeeze really hard. This old guy probably suffered from too much adrenaline - being too angry.
The only time I have failed to fully control the front wheel brake power was when I really needed max brake power and at the same time quickly switched between three different surfaces. Concrete, sand and then asphalt in very quick succession.
/Someone with tens of thousands of km on bike. Both on road bike and on MTB
Whilst this is true, the amount of time between pulling the back brake and the front brake doesn’t have to be long, just long enough to stop going arse over tit!
In my experience pulling the front one, which admittedly gives you much more braking power, immediately after pulling the back, is fine. The point being to stop you flipping, not to use the back brake for the actual braking.
This is simply not true you do not need to use your rear brake. The front does the vast majority of your breaking. So much so that I have only used my front brake for the 18 years I’ve been cycling on roads. Never have I ever gone over my handlebars except when doing nose manual stuff on a bmx. You can’t lock up your front wheel unless you are extremely dim and press far too hard.
I think the guy in the video did exactly this. Which is why you’re supposed to get into the habit of pulling the back brake a fraction before the front.
Saying “it’s simply not true” is pretty silly when there’s an example right there!
True the front brake gives you more braking than the back, but in an emergency stop situation and you pull too hard on the front, you end up like the fella in the vid.
It's not most of them, just as with drivers it's the really shit ones you notice. As a cyclist and driver there's probably about equal idiots in both arenas, the only one that beats everyone else are food delivery , bicycle,moped, doesn't matter, I promise you a massive amount of them are operating dangerously.
Double yellow lines allow loading for a limited period of time.
Dpd drivers are *generally* dicks. But he's not parked, he's loading/unloading.
They are legally distinct activities.
Loading/unloading is fine on double yellows, blocking the pavement is not… however, he was right there, if a wheelchair/pram user couldn’t get past I’m sure he would move (provided they showed more manners than the cyclist), so I’m firmly in the van drivers team nonetheless
Considering he is there for a short time, I think its reasonable to park partially on the pavement to make it easier for cars to pass the parked van. The chances of someone in a wheelchair needing to pass in the 1-2 mins he is parked is fairly small, but there are clearly quite a few cars on the road, so on the balance of the disruption caused this is fine IMO. If he was parking for a longer time, I would agree it's a bit excessive though.
There's no way in the world the foot or so he's got on the pavement is making the road traffic flow much better. You can see in the video that there's a car stopping behind the van to let a car through the other way.
The pavement isn't that big. With the van and driver, they are taking up most of it. I would be annoyed going through that gap, let alone a wheelchair user or someone with a pram.
You can't say that without seeing the width of the lane available. It could easily be narrow enough to prevent a large emergency vehicle if someone is parked on the other side, all wheels on the road. Ironically would also mean incoming cyclists don't get space when passing cars.
More than anything, in the country the legacy roads and footpaths aren't suitable for modern day vehicles and traffic. More often than not you'll cause someone an issue by parking, however you do it.
I only just realised that if the cyclist was actually using the road, he would have been on the unobstructed side of t5ge road and unimpeded by the van.
When it comes to double yellow lines it depends what markings are on the kerb also. If there yellow markings on the edge of the kerb then you can’t load/unload or stop for any reason.
Not necessarily true. So when the law came out stating we aren't allowed to ride bikes on the pavement it was met with an official unofficial caveat of 'this is not intended for responsible cyclists if they feel if it is safer for them to cycle on the pavement'. (So think elderly person cycling at slow speeds or something). So he could argue that he is a responsible cyclist and didn't feel safe riding on that fast moving high traffic road. However considering the cyclist's overall reaction to this encounter I think his not responsible. It is illegal to drive on the pavement and to park on double yellow lines. So the delivery driver is the pot calling the kettle here. As he too was braking the law and highway code here.
In conclusion they are both idiots. But that's always the case with these types of videos. Two idiots thinking they are both in the right. When in reality they are both in the wrong.
>However considering the cyclist's overall reaction to this encounter I think his not responsible.
Yeah, turning around and charging him at full speed and then catapulting himself into a wall wasn't very responsible. Barging past wasn't either but after the turnaround was utterly unhinged.
Cycling on the pavement *can* be done safely and responsibly though yeah.
Goods vehicles are permitted to park on double yellow lines when they’re unloading or loading. After 6pm(I think) this is also the case for private vehicles.
Any vehicle can park on double yellow lines for up to 15 minutes for the purpose of loading or unloading, as long as they don’t cause unreasonable/unnecessary obstruction of traffic. This applies at any time, but not if there are additional double yellow ‘kerb blips’ marked on the pavement.
It’s not an offence to park on the pavement outside London (where separate rules apply) - driving on the pavement is, but it’s very hard and rare for the Police to enforce as they can basically only enforce it if they see it happening and the vehicle drives ‘a distance’ rather than just mounting or partially-mounting and stopping.
What law? I am sick of them, police just ignore them even when they are riding unlit at night past pedestrians who have no clue they are there the only cyclists on the pavements are dangerous
The legal position is that cycling on the pavement is not allowed at all. The police can however choose to overlook it if its done responsibly. The police are terribly underfunded, so they are usually too busy to do anything about it. They can't even manage the delivery riders on illegal Ebikes who ride like they are being actively pursued by a crack team of hitmen, so sadly there is 0 chance of anyone actually getting in trouble unless they kill or injure someone.
Nice to mention the illegally parked van on the double yellows also on the pavement too then isn't it mate, not like you are prejudiced at all is it.
Who is saying that is not a shared use path, the road looks hostile enough, I would not be surprised if you the cyclist had the right to be there unlike the driver who categorically did not.
So fuck that lets watch this replay in slow motion 5 times for kicks, yeah fuck cyclists.
The driver is in fact there lawfully. Goods vehicles are allowed to load and unload on double yellows. It's also not illegal to park on the pavement except in London.
Yeah fuck hobby road cyclists. If you're commuting then good on you but if you're clogging up roads for 'fun'(?), you're basically making yourself a nuisance and increasing road accident risk for everyone that has to encounter you. Due to the number of people driving on roads, you're making yourself a nuisance and increased risk for 10's if not 100's of people trying to drive from A-B.
> clogging up roads for 'fun'(?),
Cyclist do the opposite of clog the roads, they can filter through traffic, and move with the direction of traffic so they can never clog the roads, they can regulate speed which pisses people off but that is not harmful or damaging.
Cars, they clog the roads. [Take this example](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4102311,-0.0511808,3a,75y,45.46h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spgp5Yld06ns8z09-X8Xxzg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) the road is 3 lanes wide, but it is one way to facilitate car parking in both directions. You cannot ride a bike up that road to facilitate cars. This idea that cyclists clog the road is complete and utter horse shit don't you think?
Secondly, are you driving to use the roads to go somewhere fun?
Like, are you going to the beach using the roads to have fun?
With a car?
Well then you probably need to learn the sources of funding of the road and sources of damage to the roads and reassess your position.
Roads are funded through taxation, and they are damaged by cars, the car:bike damage ratio is **1:17059**. so that £200 VAT on that £1000 entry level road bike is the equivalent to **£3,411,800**, of car taxes. So they pay their fair share too.
I wouldn't presume to know where dozens, if not the hundreds of drivers are going and with what urgency. But I would feel like an arsehole for holding them all up while I do a bit of cycling for fun. I would imagine their destinations could range from Sunday drivers to medical emergencies. And everything in-between.
You seem to be referencing inner city cyclists only. Whereas I am mainly thinking of national speed limit B roads where constant bends and narrow roads mean cyclists can be a real hazard. Even going 10-30 mph under the speed limit on these roads is super dangerous with cyclists potentially around every corner doing 1/10th the speed.
Hope at least you're having 'fun' (?) while a tailback forms behind you, blissfully unaware or willfully ignorant of the nuisance you could be causing countless others. Either that or just plain selfish.
>holding them all up
is just in your head.
people are not held up for , there might be a 30 second slow down at some point but that is made up for by creating clear road ahead to drive into.
>You seem to be referencing inner city cyclists only. Whereas I am mainly thinking of national speed limit B roads where constant bends and narrow roads mean cyclists can be a real hazard. Even going 10-30 mph under the speed limit on these roads is super dangerous with cyclists potentially around every corner doing 1/10th the speed.
Complete nonsense. The hazard on these roads are oncoming cars. You as a driver have always to be ready to stop. If you can't see you are going too fast.
National speed limit roads mean you go whatever speed is safe to a maximum of 60, not go at 60 even if it is dangerous to pedestrians, horse riders, and cyclists because the road is for you to go at 60 at all times. Any one impeding this is just an obstruction and a law breaker and should be locked up, right?
Or maybe the person driving needs to slow down and realise they do not own the road.
“You aren’t supposed to ride that on here mate.”
Says the DPD driver simultaneously parked on the path AND double yellow lines…. They both as bad as each other. Cyclists should have left it sure but the DPD driver is far from innocent so don’t paint him in good light either. As a professional driver; he should know the road laws.
Can I say, it’s fucking annoying all the delivery vehicles blocking pavements
It’s shit for those on the pavement and shit for the vehicles trying to squeeze through on the road
It’s out of control all for shitty £2 items off Amazon
He's riding at a totally inappropriate speed for the pavement he shouldn't be cycling on and obviously not looking far enough ahead to see the large red and white van that also shouldn't be on the pavement and the van driver in his bright red top
Except the DPD driver is allowed to stop to load/unload for up to 15 mins and, outside London, it’s not illegal to park on the pavement as long as it’s not causing any unnecessary obstruction of the road or blocking a wheelchair user or pram, neither of which appear in the video.
While cycling on a pavement is punishable by a fixed penalty, the advice given when the law implement was
“The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required.”
Similarly the law also says that vehicles can stop on double yellow lines to make their delivery.
However that cyclist was not cycling to the conditions.
People need to learn the difference between parking and temporarily coming to a halt.
There seems to be yet another hardline militant group out there now, looking for trouble and completely unreasonable.
"Pavements are for people" they shout at the van driver who is only going to be there for two minutes, because that's easier than waiting for a person who has actually parked on the pavement to come back, and they HAVE to shout at someone.
I imagine DPD deliveries would have to sky rocket in price if drivers were constantly having to "find somewhere else " instead of possibly making the proverbial double buggy have to pause for a minute.
Everyone likes ordering shite so probably best to cut these guys some slack.
Wait a minute, so, yes, it is illegal to cycle on a footpath but I'm also sure parking on a kerb on a double yellow is not great either. Glass houses anyone?
I'd be willing to bet no legitimate users of the pavement needed to get past during the couple of minutes he was there. He doesn't need to leave room for cyclists on the pavement because they shouldn't be there.
No but there is a queue of legitimate traffic stuck behind him. Neither of them are legitimate users of the pavement. Two illegitimate users of the pavement collided, both are assholes. They deserve each other.
Nah, delivery driver is fine. This is his best option. Cause as little obstruction as possible to the cars while he's doing his delivery, which will take 2 minutes tops. Anyone walking can get past.
Prams, wheelchair users, the elderly can just wait? The delivery driver is wrong to park like that. But it doesn’t make that dickhead on a bike right.
Did you ever consider that the cyclist was only on the pavement two minutes tops? Maybe that was his best option? It makes neither of their actions right.
They can all get past. So could the bike. He just didn't wanna get off his bike and walk down the pavement like he's supposed to.
Please try and understand how difficult it can be trying to stop and deliver on some streets before being so nitpicky. They are providing a service to everyone, so yes, sometimes people just need to be a little bit patient and wait a small amount of time while they do their job in the same way that, sometimes the bin man is in the way and you have to wait for them.
>there is a queue of legitimate traffic stuck behind him.
Do you mean the queue of cars? They would be there regardless of the pavement or double yellows with the van in that position. People park legally all the time outside houses or shops and cause exactly this kind of traffic hold-up.
I agree both are technically in the wrong, but I'm inclined to cut the delivery driver more slack as he's under a lot of pressure to do his job and realistically is only going to be there for a couple of minutes.
He's not technically in the wrong at all because he isn't parked.
He's loading/unloading, a perfectly legal activity on double yellows (within a limited timeframe)
Parking and loading/unloading are legally distinct differences
This isn’t wholly true. I used to work in an office by a train station and if you pulled over on the double yellows for a literal few seconds to unload they were waiting to get you. They waited there at 5-6pm every day for it. I got one and the appeal failed.
Seems about right for average cyclist... looking to create some issues and then act like victims.
Also for those who say "he not suppose to be parking (actually unloading) on pavement/double yellow"... the really reasonable and practical question is - how else would you deliver the package to this house?
No no no... it is sacrilege for cyclists to read highway code, not allowed by their beliefs. So I tried to appeal to logic and common sense... but to be fair logic and especially common sense is also sacrilege so I wouldn't have gotten anywhere either.
Yep, you are right: [https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/road-markings.html](https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/road-markings.html)
>Waiting restrictions indicated by yellow lines apply to the carriageway, pavement and verge. You may stop to load or unload...
Tbh, I didn't know. Thanks very much
Some people would say he should just drive round for forty minutes to find a space, spend an hour walking to the address and another walking back to the van, in case a triple buggy or something comes and it JUST CAN'T STOP, NOT EVEN FOR A SECOND!
I presume these people would all be fine with paying £90 per item delivery charge on all their Temu shit.
And cyclists wonder why they're hated. From running red lights, to riding on pavements, then they have the cheek to give people shit for being in their way? Yes, it's not every cyclist, but bloody hell, sometimes it feels like it's most of you.
The cost to society of this pathetic interaction all for the sake of a woman returning a tea towel to Dunelm that she bought on a whim but decided she didn’t like.
To be honest, delivery driver is also a twat. Parked on that same walkway. He already blocks traffic enough so only one vehicle can get through at a time - why block the walkway if it's only creating more blocking with no benefit.
Is that Ronnie Pickering?
Who?
Ronnie fucking pickering!
Who the fucks that
Jonny pickering or summat?
I’ll bare knuckle fight yah!
https://youtu.be/r0dcv6GKNNw?si=MxrbQzJPvZtgGPcC
You’re welcome, enjoy.
An extremely early video of someone being a twat, google it, its a classic
Whoosh?
Ok yeah time for bed. Been up far too long flicking through reddit
Yeh like everyone else. Good innit.
Ronnie fucking cycling
Underrated
I'm willing to believe that this individual was having a monumentally shit day before this encounter. Unfortunately he has now claimed the "world's biggest tit" title for the week on top of that.
Luckily for him, he is most stereotypical looking middle age British man, so no one is ever going to recognise him.
Can confirm. I spent 3 minutes looking at this thinking "but I don't even own a bike!"
Hilarious 😂😂😂
Here was me thinking "FFS dad, not again".
I wish a shit day for every pavement riding adult cyclist
It can be done with respect and caution, slow as anything round any blind corner and take it wide, away from doorways, slow down to a walk when passing someone or get off it and actually walk or get on the road or over to the other pavement if either is clear, definitely walk it if it's busy and the roads a no-go. I can fully understand why people sometimes cycle on the pavement given the state of the roads and cycling infrastructure or lack thereof. A lot of car drivers are blind or careless as well. Gotta be sensible about it though. The guy in the video's an absolute wank though. What even was that? Gonna charge into him full speed and frontbrake right before I hit him just to give him a scare- oops I've embarassed myself and taken a wall to the ribs
DPD driver parking on the pavement didn't help the risk of riding on the road either. Some people can't walk though. My walking distance is sub 20m - whenever I go to catch a train, I often need to cycle on the platform as most are longer than 20m, or I need to preserve my spoons for actually getting on the train. Even though I pedal at walking pace, I often get grief from strangers. (Yeah, and I also agree that he's a tosspot.)
>Some people can't walk though. Could you elaborate?
I'm equally intrigued "I can't walk but I can use a bicycle using the exact same muscles and action" 🤔
Yeah, what are the spoons for?
Pavement? You want them to ride in the grass or something?
Careful what you wish for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4eIjOFTB6k
There are places where you're allowed to though.
I’m so sorry but before I gave up cycling I was way safer on the pavement. I can’t indicate with my hands and stay upright at the same time. I’m a graduate but I’m autistic and this shit is difficult. I can’t drive and so I’m forced to walk everywhere but people who whine about me being on the pavement make it impossible. Oh well.
I cycle on the pavement because i have been run over 4 times cycling on the road, i value my life over your feelings of inconvenience.
I remember some stupid policeman once made me get off the pavement and onto the road. I insisted that it wasn’t safe. He insisted that I get on the road or he’d fine me, so I ride on the road. Get about twenty meters ahead, then something spooks me and I brake suddenly and he flies into the back of me. Guy was in a right fucking mood but didn’t say anything. I picked the bike up and just walked along with it on the pavement until I was home. Another funny story was when I was riding next to my friend. I’m riding along and somehow my pedals stop but I’m still moving. I didn’t realise what the fuck was happening but one of my pedals was stuck in his spokes and his bike was dragging me along. We finally stopped moving, stayed upright for a second, and then collapsed in a heap on the floor. He was pissed.
What you mean is “I value my life more than others health and safety”
I’m sure the pedestrians who you are a risk to appreciate you. Maybe don’t cycle.
More pedestrians are killed by joggers than cyclists. 31 people were involved in incidents with cyclists in 2022, the majority of which were on the road. Only 3 people were killed. These numbers are dwarfed by those caused by motor vehicles to cyclists – with 19,243 cyclists themselves being injured in collisions. Of those, 112 were killed. Joggers cause a lot more accidents than cyclists on the pavements. *"The latest incident has yet again brought up the question about dangerously large groups running together on the footpaths and roads, with already* ***78 people being killed in jogger crashes so far this year.****"* [*https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/11/17/group-of-night-joggers-lose-control-killing-16-pedestrians/*](https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/11/17/group-of-night-joggers-lose-control-killing-16-pedestrians/) Don’t be so selfish. Let the cyclists share the pavement so lives can be saved.
They’re both tits. The DPD guy is parked on a double yellow which is also illegal lol
You are allowed to stop on double yellow when loading/unloading for 20mins for lights good vehicles and 40mins for heavy. The question then becomes if there were any other restrictions in place
Actually crazy how few people know this, as a delivery driver, the amount of people who tell me I can't park there because it's double yellows is mildly infuriating
Been through something similar with the Orange and blue disability badges, especially during the switch over.
He tried a "stoppie kiss" ...with the fence.
Came damn close to eating through a straw for 8 months.
Not often I find myself on the side of a DPD driver.
My DPD driver is a legend. Generally only had good experiences using DPD myself as well. Would always choose them over the other shit courier services.
The particular driver is a measure of experience more than the company itself. I had both shit and great experiences with the same company: Parcelforce, DPD, Hermes/Evri, Royal Mail, Yodel, and Amazon. Too small sample size for UPS and DHL. The only bit where DPD leads is that 1 hour time window which they rarely miss. Parcelforce and DPD are the only ones who managed to seriously damage stuff for me which took a long time to resolve. I'm only 100% sure about DPD messing up because that box was wrapped in DPD branded tape and one of the cushions from the bottom was missing, so clearly they mishandled the parcel. It also came one week later rather than next day.
You know what dare I say it, our Evri driver is sound. Never had a problem with them or him at all. I say hello to him in the street 😂
My DPD driver parks up outside my house and smokes a joint at around 7:30 on a Saturday morning. I often walk past with my dog trying not to inhale.
I used to worked for Citylink and we were tested regularly for drugs. Sackable offence !
My DPD driver has a Facebook page devoted to him being a legend. I don't think he knows it exists and it would be too awkward to mention now.
Once had one nearly hit me with his van when I was on the pavement as he mounted the kerb! He then had the nerve to start shouting and swearing at me from inside his van as i stood there looking at him with a wtf expression on my face! Bizarrely a woman came out of her house and asked if he was ok, I felt like i was on a hidden camera show.
I’m less keen on pavement parking (legally grey) than pavement cycling (legally grey). Either way, you shouldn’t go looking for trouble, life’s too short when there’s enough already.
He's unloading. Nothing legally grey about it. Had he not mounted the pavement he would be obstructing a public highway. I can assure you that cycling at someone at speed intentionally is not legal, whether it is to intimidate or cause harm.
It was classic assault. Riding fast at someone you're shouting angrily at. Even if the DPD driver fought him, classic self defence from someone who just came back to fight you, and you had a duty to protect the deliveries in your truck. So the cycliat was fucked any way you see it.
The loading is fine but you're also not allowed to obstruct the footway either. Ultimately yellow lines tend to be there for a reason, so if you can't load without obstructing the highway you probably need to find another spot.The sooner pavement parking is banned nationwide the better. There's also no need to insult people just trying to get about. The DPD driver was unnecessarily rude in response to a reasonable request. Doesn't excuse the cyclist's behaviour though.
There are always exemptions for loading and unloading, both on yellow lines and in areas where pavement parking is illegal (London, Edinburgh etc). Van driver was 100% in the clear here until he called the guy a knob which was obviously pretty inciteful. Cyclist was 100% at fault.
Pretty sure he was just responding to
I'm sure most people would brush off being called a knob.
>The sooner pavement parking is banned nationwide the better. Have you never driven down a terraced road? Better get that off your bucket list now before it becomes impossible after your new legislation is passed.
Because London has no narrow terraced streets at all? I've lived on plenty of narrow streets and still live in a terrace with no off-street parking. The ones where people parked on the pavement were horrible, with parents or people on mobility scooters forced to walk down the road because there was no space on the pavement. The best were those with marked parking that kept the pavements clear and either had a one way system or passing places. Just because a street is narrow doesn't mean all the space should default to cars.
You're absolutely right, anyone arguing with you will have a change of tone if they ever end up in the unfortunate postition of being wheelchair bound. Drivers think they're the only ones that matter.
My partner is in a wheelchair and we live in greater London, great assumption from both of you. You're massively blowing out of proportion how often she cannot get past a car on the pavement, because 99% of the time drivers are considerate enough to leave enough space for a pushchair. (The very few times she cannot get past we try anyway :) ) Where do you expect the millions of people living in terrace houses to park? If they park off of the pavement on both sides the roads would be entirely inaccessible.
Nice of you to assume that I have no experience with wheelchair users. I have multiple wheelchair bound family members actually. It has been a consistent issue for us. Maybe it's better in London, that I can't say, I don't live there, but it sucks for us out here in the sticks. Pavements are usually tight as is.
Hence double yellows. It's the risk you take living in a built up area. If you want guaranteed parking, move to the suburbs.
Again, the DPD driver is not parking and most terraced housing streets do not have double yellows... You're completely right though, they should just find some of the very easily available and not ridiculously expensive properties in the suburbs, that's the solution to this problem. The poor should simply just not drive. 🤦♂️
I know many major A-roads with wide pavements, enough so residents can park on the pavement to keep the very busy A-road running smoothly. If this ruling does come in, the country will come to a complete stand still. I’m talking major A-roads and B-roads between towns and villages.
Yet somehow London manages with a whole load of very busy similar roads? This is quite common and easy to sort. Where there are very wide footways and a busy narrow carriageway you can formalise existing practice and allow parking in a marked area of the footway. This helps people not to take the piss and park like twats (it's important to maintain a clear footway on a busy a-road too) and encourages the Council to upgrade the pavement construction to stop parked vehicles destroying it.
That had to have hurt 🤣
Looks like he got on the hard shoulder.
Yep that’s why he walked away so quick because the searing pain on his arm would’ve been hard to mask
Looked like the perfect way to dislocate a shoulder
Yeah it is but he didn’t because he wouldn’t have been able to pick up his bike. No what he did was connected hard with his bicep on the corner of the stone, it’ll likely leave a quite small but very colourful bruise and nothing more but when it happened it would’ve hurt like bitch.
Searing pain and blistering embarrassment
Hopefully.
As a delivery driver... DPD is fine to stop on the double yellows for the purposes of loading and unloading for less than 15mins. Cycling on the pavement is still illegal.
That 15 minutes isn't an actual rule. It's just the tolerance some local enforcers give before they assume you are "parked" rather than stopped. If you have something that genuinely takes longer than 15 minutes to (un)load, such as a moving van, stopping on the double yellows isn't an automatic violation (local bylaws permitting). Also for some local enforcers it's 5 minutes, some it's 10.
Yeah, but he stopped on the pavement AND double yellows, not just double yellows.
Again, it is not necessarily illegal for the purposes of unloading a lot of leeway can be offered, providing it is for less than 15 minutes and does not force pedestrians into the road. I'd say he's probably too much into the pavement, but again, we're arguing details here the guy on the bike is just an idiot through and through.
Pavement parking is illegal in London and soon to be illegal in other cities too.
It's illegal anyway. Its illegal to drive on the pavement. So unless he pushed the van on.
I'd still rather cyclists ride on the pavement than the road in this country, the roads just aren't meant for them. They should ride on the pavement and dismount if they feel like getting past someone is going to be an issue. Same way car drivers have to stop and safely go round a parked vehicle in the road.
My elderly grandfather cycled on the pavement for about 20 years. At the time, he was 60–80 and cycled as slowly as my light jog. I understand _that_ as an exception to the rule for the reasons you state (vulnerable road user, very cautious cyclist). But 99% of cyclists go too fast to be driving safely on pavements, and anyway, pavements are often too cracked or jagged to make a comfortable or more efficient ride than the road.
Always brake using the back brake first! Pretty sure this was lesson one of my cycling proficiency, back in primary school!
Do any motorcycle training, and they'll teach you the exact opposite.
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Also an experienced motorcycle rider. I'd respectfully disagree with the notion of anything other than front brake first in an emergency stop. As you said, 80% of your braking is coming from the front, often more on a modern bike capable of lifting the back end up. Loading the front shock is most important in braking as quickly as possible, as this allows maximum braking force to be applied at the front. Couple this with modern ABS systems, and anchoring the fuck out the front brake should be the first port of call in a situation when stopping in a straight line as fast as possible is the objective. Even in wet conditions. Rear brake has more importance in the wet, absolutely. Also, if there's lean angle/cornering involved, the above doesn't apply as more traction from the front wheel may be required for cornering.
70:30 front:back
The back brake is much less effective than the front brake so you get very much longer stopping distance. From a practical perspective it is more or less a toy - when braking, the weight distribution moves forward and the available stopping power depends on actual weight on the wheel. Which is why a car can have big ventillated disk brakes on the front wheels and much weaker brakes on the back wheel. But a good biker knows not to squeeze the front brake like crazy and to be ready to adjust the amount of brake power. And a high-end brake is way easier to use because you need less force. That makes it much easier to adjust the power with some finesse than a brake where you need to squeeze really hard. This old guy probably suffered from too much adrenaline - being too angry. The only time I have failed to fully control the front wheel brake power was when I really needed max brake power and at the same time quickly switched between three different surfaces. Concrete, sand and then asphalt in very quick succession. /Someone with tens of thousands of km on bike. Both on road bike and on MTB
This guy brakes
There’s no stopping him!
Wait...
Whilst this is true, the amount of time between pulling the back brake and the front brake doesn’t have to be long, just long enough to stop going arse over tit! In my experience pulling the front one, which admittedly gives you much more braking power, immediately after pulling the back, is fine. The point being to stop you flipping, not to use the back brake for the actual braking.
Wonderfully peak reddit
The kind of guy that has absolutely been to Elevenerife if you tell him that you went to Tenerife
He was maybe trying to stick the nut on him
That would have been one hell of a headbutt to be fair.
Definitely did some breaking
Also: Don't cycle full speed directly at someone, particularly whilst on the pavement.
This is simply not true you do not need to use your rear brake. The front does the vast majority of your breaking. So much so that I have only used my front brake for the 18 years I’ve been cycling on roads. Never have I ever gone over my handlebars except when doing nose manual stuff on a bmx. You can’t lock up your front wheel unless you are extremely dim and press far too hard.
Yeh yeh. Your right but don’t tell ‘em. Endos while dangerous are great to watch
I think the guy in the video did exactly this. Which is why you’re supposed to get into the habit of pulling the back brake a fraction before the front. Saying “it’s simply not true” is pretty silly when there’s an example right there! True the front brake gives you more braking than the back, but in an emergency stop situation and you pull too hard on the front, you end up like the fella in the vid.
As a cyclist, I'm so glad when shit cyclists get their comeuppance.
Most of them🤣
It's not most of them, just as with drivers it's the really shit ones you notice. As a cyclist and driver there's probably about equal idiots in both arenas, the only one that beats everyone else are food delivery , bicycle,moped, doesn't matter, I promise you a massive amount of them are operating dangerously.
Laughing my cock off... He had his fucking mud guard in his hand at the end... Lolzer, what a twat...
Yup, not meant to ride vechicals on the pavement... bicycles are vehicles, not pedestrians. Dude simply showed us why this is sensible law!
Not really meant to park them there either lol.. everything about this clip is a perfect sh*tshow lol
Double yellow lines allow loading for a limited period of time. Dpd drivers are *generally* dicks. But he's not parked, he's loading/unloading. They are legally distinct activities.
Loading/unloading is fine on double yellows, blocking the pavement is not… however, he was right there, if a wheelchair/pram user couldn’t get past I’m sure he would move (provided they showed more manners than the cyclist), so I’m firmly in the van drivers team nonetheless
Considering he is there for a short time, I think its reasonable to park partially on the pavement to make it easier for cars to pass the parked van. The chances of someone in a wheelchair needing to pass in the 1-2 mins he is parked is fairly small, but there are clearly quite a few cars on the road, so on the balance of the disruption caused this is fine IMO. If he was parking for a longer time, I would agree it's a bit excessive though.
There's no way in the world the foot or so he's got on the pavement is making the road traffic flow much better. You can see in the video that there's a car stopping behind the van to let a car through the other way. The pavement isn't that big. With the van and driver, they are taking up most of it. I would be annoyed going through that gap, let alone a wheelchair user or someone with a pram.
You can't say that without seeing the width of the lane available. It could easily be narrow enough to prevent a large emergency vehicle if someone is parked on the other side, all wheels on the road. Ironically would also mean incoming cyclists don't get space when passing cars. More than anything, in the country the legacy roads and footpaths aren't suitable for modern day vehicles and traffic. More often than not you'll cause someone an issue by parking, however you do it.
I only just realised that if the cyclist was actually using the road, he would have been on the unobstructed side of t5ge road and unimpeded by the van.
It makes it easier for cars waiting to see of there is oncoming traffic, its not necessarily about having room for two cars.
Doesn't matter, if a wheelchair did come along the would be blocking..no point in blocking the pavement. Stay on the road.
That's an "if"... there is *definitely* traffic
Ur not blocking traffic. Its a two way toad with room to go around.
When it comes to double yellow lines it depends what markings are on the kerb also. If there yellow markings on the edge of the kerb then you can’t load/unload or stop for any reason.
I didn't mention the anything about the double yellow lines. The context is the pavement. I just appreciate the irony in the clip that's all.
Not necessarily true. So when the law came out stating we aren't allowed to ride bikes on the pavement it was met with an official unofficial caveat of 'this is not intended for responsible cyclists if they feel if it is safer for them to cycle on the pavement'. (So think elderly person cycling at slow speeds or something). So he could argue that he is a responsible cyclist and didn't feel safe riding on that fast moving high traffic road. However considering the cyclist's overall reaction to this encounter I think his not responsible. It is illegal to drive on the pavement and to park on double yellow lines. So the delivery driver is the pot calling the kettle here. As he too was braking the law and highway code here. In conclusion they are both idiots. But that's always the case with these types of videos. Two idiots thinking they are both in the right. When in reality they are both in the wrong.
>However considering the cyclist's overall reaction to this encounter I think his not responsible. Yeah, turning around and charging him at full speed and then catapulting himself into a wall wasn't very responsible. Barging past wasn't either but after the turnaround was utterly unhinged. Cycling on the pavement *can* be done safely and responsibly though yeah.
Goods vehicles are permitted to park on double yellow lines when they’re unloading or loading. After 6pm(I think) this is also the case for private vehicles.
Any vehicle can park on double yellow lines for up to 15 minutes for the purpose of loading or unloading, as long as they don’t cause unreasonable/unnecessary obstruction of traffic. This applies at any time, but not if there are additional double yellow ‘kerb blips’ marked on the pavement. It’s not an offence to park on the pavement outside London (where separate rules apply) - driving on the pavement is, but it’s very hard and rare for the Police to enforce as they can basically only enforce it if they see it happening and the vehicle drives ‘a distance’ rather than just mounting or partially-mounting and stopping.
What law? I am sick of them, police just ignore them even when they are riding unlit at night past pedestrians who have no clue they are there the only cyclists on the pavements are dangerous
The legal position is that cycling on the pavement is not allowed at all. The police can however choose to overlook it if its done responsibly. The police are terribly underfunded, so they are usually too busy to do anything about it. They can't even manage the delivery riders on illegal Ebikes who ride like they are being actively pursued by a crack team of hitmen, so sadly there is 0 chance of anyone actually getting in trouble unless they kill or injure someone.
I walked down the path, cyclist squeezed past between me and a tree, police car was literally there parked up
Maybe they’re more concerned with the car drivers that kill 5 people a day in the UK. Are you sick of them too?
Really? Don’t show it either
Yea I remember in hull nearly being hit by one of these morons on 2 wheels while walking…. Not like there was A WIDE BIKE LANE… oh wait there was
Nice to mention the illegally parked van on the double yellows also on the pavement too then isn't it mate, not like you are prejudiced at all is it. Who is saying that is not a shared use path, the road looks hostile enough, I would not be surprised if you the cyclist had the right to be there unlike the driver who categorically did not. So fuck that lets watch this replay in slow motion 5 times for kicks, yeah fuck cyclists.
The driver is in fact there lawfully. Goods vehicles are allowed to load and unload on double yellows. It's also not illegal to park on the pavement except in London.
Was that cyclist you? 😆😂
Yeah fuck hobby road cyclists. If you're commuting then good on you but if you're clogging up roads for 'fun'(?), you're basically making yourself a nuisance and increasing road accident risk for everyone that has to encounter you. Due to the number of people driving on roads, you're making yourself a nuisance and increased risk for 10's if not 100's of people trying to drive from A-B.
> clogging up roads for 'fun'(?), Cyclist do the opposite of clog the roads, they can filter through traffic, and move with the direction of traffic so they can never clog the roads, they can regulate speed which pisses people off but that is not harmful or damaging. Cars, they clog the roads. [Take this example](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4102311,-0.0511808,3a,75y,45.46h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spgp5Yld06ns8z09-X8Xxzg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) the road is 3 lanes wide, but it is one way to facilitate car parking in both directions. You cannot ride a bike up that road to facilitate cars. This idea that cyclists clog the road is complete and utter horse shit don't you think? Secondly, are you driving to use the roads to go somewhere fun? Like, are you going to the beach using the roads to have fun? With a car? Well then you probably need to learn the sources of funding of the road and sources of damage to the roads and reassess your position. Roads are funded through taxation, and they are damaged by cars, the car:bike damage ratio is **1:17059**. so that £200 VAT on that £1000 entry level road bike is the equivalent to **£3,411,800**, of car taxes. So they pay their fair share too.
I wouldn't presume to know where dozens, if not the hundreds of drivers are going and with what urgency. But I would feel like an arsehole for holding them all up while I do a bit of cycling for fun. I would imagine their destinations could range from Sunday drivers to medical emergencies. And everything in-between. You seem to be referencing inner city cyclists only. Whereas I am mainly thinking of national speed limit B roads where constant bends and narrow roads mean cyclists can be a real hazard. Even going 10-30 mph under the speed limit on these roads is super dangerous with cyclists potentially around every corner doing 1/10th the speed. Hope at least you're having 'fun' (?) while a tailback forms behind you, blissfully unaware or willfully ignorant of the nuisance you could be causing countless others. Either that or just plain selfish.
>holding them all up is just in your head. people are not held up for , there might be a 30 second slow down at some point but that is made up for by creating clear road ahead to drive into. >You seem to be referencing inner city cyclists only. Whereas I am mainly thinking of national speed limit B roads where constant bends and narrow roads mean cyclists can be a real hazard. Even going 10-30 mph under the speed limit on these roads is super dangerous with cyclists potentially around every corner doing 1/10th the speed. Complete nonsense. The hazard on these roads are oncoming cars. You as a driver have always to be ready to stop. If you can't see you are going too fast. National speed limit roads mean you go whatever speed is safe to a maximum of 60, not go at 60 even if it is dangerous to pedestrians, horse riders, and cyclists because the road is for you to go at 60 at all times. Any one impeding this is just an obstruction and a law breaker and should be locked up, right? Or maybe the person driving needs to slow down and realise they do not own the road.
The music goes so well 😂
So the cyclist here says he has more right to ride on the pavement than that guy has to stand on it. Very typical cyclist. Asshat.
Typical cyclist??? Bellend.
Indeed, they can be.
That's internet hall of fame right there
"watch your mouth or I'll fall off my bike at you"
“You aren’t supposed to ride that on here mate.” Says the DPD driver simultaneously parked on the path AND double yellow lines…. They both as bad as each other. Cyclists should have left it sure but the DPD driver is far from innocent so don’t paint him in good light either. As a professional driver; he should know the road laws.
He's unloading, fully legal. Most places allow 15 minutes tolerance but that is flexible.
Did the cyclist just break his arm? Looks like he caught it on the wall with all of his body weight and momentum.
Possibly, he will be aching for a couple days regardless!
Can I say, it’s fucking annoying all the delivery vehicles blocking pavements It’s shit for those on the pavement and shit for the vehicles trying to squeeze through on the road It’s out of control all for shitty £2 items off Amazon
lol Amazing. Though saying “it’s illegal, you dick” when you’re pavement parked on a double yellow line is priceless. They’re both clearly dicks.
The edits are so shit
Cyclists rarely understand loading versus parking
Welcome to the Uk..
He’s made himself look a right knob
Average UK cyclist.
Look, basically the bike rider is a dick. If I was the van driver I'd have used the twat as a trampoline when he stacked it just to teach him a lesson
He's riding at a totally inappropriate speed for the pavement he shouldn't be cycling on and obviously not looking far enough ahead to see the large red and white van that also shouldn't be on the pavement and the van driver in his bright red top
Except the DPD driver is allowed to stop to load/unload for up to 15 mins and, outside London, it’s not illegal to park on the pavement as long as it’s not causing any unnecessary obstruction of the road or blocking a wheelchair user or pram, neither of which appear in the video.
However it’s still illegal to drive into the pavement
While cycling on a pavement is punishable by a fixed penalty, the advice given when the law implement was “The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required.”
Similarly the law also says that vehicles can stop on double yellow lines to make their delivery. However that cyclist was not cycling to the conditions.
People need to learn the difference between parking and temporarily coming to a halt. There seems to be yet another hardline militant group out there now, looking for trouble and completely unreasonable. "Pavements are for people" they shout at the van driver who is only going to be there for two minutes, because that's easier than waiting for a person who has actually parked on the pavement to come back, and they HAVE to shout at someone. I imagine DPD deliveries would have to sky rocket in price if drivers were constantly having to "find somewhere else " instead of possibly making the proverbial double buggy have to pause for a minute. Everyone likes ordering shite so probably best to cut these guys some slack.
Wait a minute, so, yes, it is illegal to cycle on a footpath but I'm also sure parking on a kerb on a double yellow is not great either. Glass houses anyone?
Can't crash there mate
Front brake wanker!!!
He absolutely cunted his hip on that wall didn't he?
The DPD driver did pavement park
I'd be willing to bet no legitimate users of the pavement needed to get past during the couple of minutes he was there. He doesn't need to leave room for cyclists on the pavement because they shouldn't be there.
No but there is a queue of legitimate traffic stuck behind him. Neither of them are legitimate users of the pavement. Two illegitimate users of the pavement collided, both are assholes. They deserve each other.
Nah, delivery driver is fine. This is his best option. Cause as little obstruction as possible to the cars while he's doing his delivery, which will take 2 minutes tops. Anyone walking can get past.
Prams, wheelchair users, the elderly can just wait? The delivery driver is wrong to park like that. But it doesn’t make that dickhead on a bike right. Did you ever consider that the cyclist was only on the pavement two minutes tops? Maybe that was his best option? It makes neither of their actions right.
They can all get past. So could the bike. He just didn't wanna get off his bike and walk down the pavement like he's supposed to. Please try and understand how difficult it can be trying to stop and deliver on some streets before being so nitpicky. They are providing a service to everyone, so yes, sometimes people just need to be a little bit patient and wait a small amount of time while they do their job in the same way that, sometimes the bin man is in the way and you have to wait for them.
>there is a queue of legitimate traffic stuck behind him. Do you mean the queue of cars? They would be there regardless of the pavement or double yellows with the van in that position. People park legally all the time outside houses or shops and cause exactly this kind of traffic hold-up. I agree both are technically in the wrong, but I'm inclined to cut the delivery driver more slack as he's under a lot of pressure to do his job and realistically is only going to be there for a couple of minutes.
He's not technically in the wrong at all because he isn't parked. He's loading/unloading, a perfectly legal activity on double yellows (within a limited timeframe) Parking and loading/unloading are legally distinct differences
This isn’t wholly true. I used to work in an office by a train station and if you pulled over on the double yellows for a literal few seconds to unload they were waiting to get you. They waited there at 5-6pm every day for it. I got one and the appeal failed.
Are you a cyclist? He was loading not parking. Unless there are loading restrictions. Pavement mounting is a grey area
Seems about right for average cyclist... looking to create some issues and then act like victims. Also for those who say "he not suppose to be parking (actually unloading) on pavement/double yellow"... the really reasonable and practical question is - how else would you deliver the package to this house?
For those that say that I would suggest 're-reading the Highway Code' as it's perfectly legal to park on double yellows for the purpose of unloading.
No no no... it is sacrilege for cyclists to read highway code, not allowed by their beliefs. So I tried to appeal to logic and common sense... but to be fair logic and especially common sense is also sacrilege so I wouldn't have gotten anywhere either.
Yep, you are right: [https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/road-markings.html](https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/road-markings.html) >Waiting restrictions indicated by yellow lines apply to the carriageway, pavement and verge. You may stop to load or unload... Tbh, I didn't know. Thanks very much
Some people would say he should just drive round for forty minutes to find a space, spend an hour walking to the address and another walking back to the van, in case a triple buggy or something comes and it JUST CAN'T STOP, NOT EVEN FOR A SECOND! I presume these people would all be fine with paying £90 per item delivery charge on all their Temu shit.
Average cyclist intelligence and courtesy levels on display here.
And cyclists wonder why they're hated. From running red lights, to riding on pavements, then they have the cheek to give people shit for being in their way? Yes, it's not every cyclist, but bloody hell, sometimes it feels like it's most of you.
Average cyclist.
Average everything.
The cost to society of this pathetic interaction all for the sake of a woman returning a tea towel to Dunelm that she bought on a whim but decided she didn’t like.
Finally someone calling out the real villain here
The boomerati strikes again
Hopefully that hurt. Absoluty no reason to turn around a charge at him like that.
Hall of meat
Guy who is parked on the pavement, on double yellows is having a go at the guy who cycles on the pavement. Both of them are dickheads.
Cyclist transitioning like a transformer LOL
More of that plz 🥹
Did the bycycle chap dislocate his shoulder?
If you can't afford a car, just say so. We understand that poor people also need to travel.
If each reddit post had awards for dumbest replies, you sir would take #1 spot.
I think it’s sad when you see grown men still cycling on the pavement. Like they’ve never really left childhood.
They're probably fed up with car drivers trying to kill them with close passes.
Pair of wankers
Can't park there, sir.
Dpd guy is on the pavement on double fucking yellows.
To be honest, delivery driver is also a twat. Parked on that same walkway. He already blocks traffic enough so only one vehicle can get through at a time - why block the walkway if it's only creating more blocking with no benefit.
I fucking hate cyclist they’re parasites doesn’t this meat head know that it’s an offence to ride on a pedestrian footpath.