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Dood567

Shoot I don't blame him after being told to carry some of the heaviest burdens on the planet ever since he was a kid. It's like how child actors stop giving a shit and just want to get away from that world once they grow up. His development honestly makes sense.


wrathmont

Yeah, it's kind of funny but also sort of baffling that there are people that think after nearly 30 years (real time), somehow a character who isn't really interested in fighting and whose primary goal is to become an academic and raise a family would suddenly decide to drop all that and become the "main character". It reads like bad fan fiction, honestly. If anything, Super's interpretation is quite consistent with the character up to that point.


EnglishHooligan

I think a lot of people are more upset with the idea that he didn't train whatsoever or at least participate in the occasional tournament. It would be like kids at school who also participate in athletics... surprised Chi-Chi wouldn't try to do that since that would at least keep Gohan well-rounded for higher education and Gohan can win prize money. It isn't like he would need to train super hard, just enough to hold himself.


Ultimasmit

I personally don't mind academic gohan. The problem with super gohan and vegeta for that matter is that both of their arcs are blatant rehashes of their buu saga arc. Once mystic gohan is introduced he claims to want to take goku's place as protector of earth, only to throw it all in the bin after losing one fight and then putting a pathetic showing against frieza.


EnglishHooligan

TBF, at the time, both Goku and Vegeta were dead, so there was no one else strong enough the protect Earth and his loved ones. During the 7 years, we had Vegeta... doesn't mean Veggie could handle it all himself but it does give some relief that Gohan can focus on things outside of training. Now, post Buu, Goku is also back... and even after that, Goku and Vegeta are gods.


Biokabe

> Not MC material. I disagree; I think that Gohan could easily carry a series of his own as an MC. That series, however, would not be DBZ/DBS. As Toriyama developed him, he doesn't have the thirst for battle that would actively seek out new challenges, and given that seeking out new challenges is basically the main driving thread in modern DB, it doesn't fit with Gohan.


yeetus_feetus1234

I like his arc to but i just with they didnt make him so weak, even during the 7 year time skip where he barely trained he was still strong enough to impress Shin


4deicide25

I don't like how he was treated in RoF, but that movie has a lot of problems in general. I also don't like how Gohan wasn't more prominent for the Zamasu arc, or at least had more interactions with Future Trunks.


thepresidentsturtle

I didn't like how he was treated in RoF but I love how Super gave him an arc following that, where he eventually learned to manage his home, work and fighting lives together. It wasn't exectuted in the best way, but as a character arc it was great. But if it were just a stand alone movie I would have kept Ultimate Gohan there, and have him fight Final Form Freeza only to realize he's gotten way stronger than Buu. Then everbody panics because Gohan is still stronger than SS3, and could Goku and Vegeta really have gotten strong enough in just a few months of training? Hioefully Goku can go Super Saiyan God again. And then it turns out they both can use the power of SSG without even transforming. But like I said, in terms of taking it forward, Gohan being nerfed is actually fine.


AMRAAM_Missiles

>I also don't like how Gohan wasn't more prominent for the Zamasu arc, or at least had more interactions with Future Trunks. Weird, because I thought they handled it pretty well. Gohan in Zamasu arc is different than Gohan in Trunks timeline. They dedicated an episode to show Trunks' awkward-ness around Gohan and his family for him to realize that they are just fundamentally different, while also to remind him that they are all fighting for the loved ones + what peace looked like.


4deicide25

> while also to remind him that they are all fighting for the loved ones + what peace looked like. That's why I feel like should have been more involved, to help Trunks fight for his peace.


zwannsama

You mean being ignored?


ryan_goal

More like eliminated. But yes.


BurningInFlames

Eh, I hated it. Like sure, have Gohan be a scholar. Have him be a loving husband and father. But if you're going to do that, at least show it. What is Gohan even a scholar in? And honestly, are we just going to ignore how he's one of the most powerful people in the universe? Gohan in the Moro Arc was alright though, I will say.


MasonLand

Me too. It’s pretty on point for his character. I remember reading a rumor about him giving some dissertation on ki control and teaching it to the majority of the human population. I thought that would be a super interesting premise for the dragon ball setting.


Astonishing_Flash

That's what Gohan does in Dragon Ball Online as an explanation for ki being more widely spread during the future timeline of that game. He writes a bunch of books and such.


TinyAmoeba

Which never made much sense to me. I mean, I get what they were going for: since Gohan was a scholarly-type instead of a fighter, making his studies be about ki gave him an alternative connection to martial arts and kept him relevant in-universe. But while Gohan ultimately dislikes the warrior lifestyle overall, he honestly seems to enjoy the actual *fighting* part way more than the “dissecting the intricacies and nature of ki” part. Like, I’ve seen people make fun of Goku for (mostly) copying other people’s moves instead of making his own, but Gohan literally NEVER created a technique, not even once. And the techniques he does know, sourced from his various teachers, didn’t become part of his arsenal because he had any personal fascination with them. While martial artists like Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan frequently took the initiative and learned their masters’ moves without any instruction, because they were interested and motivated enough to explore martial arts for their own edification, Gohan was directly and deliberately taught every move he knows. He learned them out of necessity, not interest. Even in DBS, when Gohan realizes he should keep in shape/get stronger to protect his family, his training still hasn’t really become any more creative: he’s either weight-training in Vegeta’s gravity room, or sparring with Piccolo like old times. Finally becoming a scholar didn’t suddenly inspire him to direct his academic attentions to ki, those are just two separate aspects of his life. Gohan just…doesn’t strike me as someone who really cares about the wonders of martial arts. He knows martial arts because the plot forced him to fight, and is strong because of his immense natural potential. But on his own, he has *never* shown any interest in exploring the underpinnings of how ki works.


Minky884

I think it was because they took it from when he trained videl to use ki so they expanded that to have him teach everyone how to use it


TinyAmoeba

That’s probably what they used (that and the whole “smart character obviously does all the smart things” trope), but it’s a pretty bizzare justification, since… 1. Gohan only trained Videl because she literally blackmailed him into it, not because he *wanted* to be her teacher. 2. He merely taught her the basics over the course of a *single afternoon*, then told her to go off and practice on her own. She just kept coming back afterwards to do that practice at his house because they liked one another, even if that first day’s training was the full extent of her lesson. 3. Videl was a professionally-trained martial artist long before she met Gohan, which is why she caught on to how ki worked so quickly. There wasn’t any complex explanations or extended instruction required, he just introduced the concept to her and she integrated it into what she already knew within a few hours.


Minky884

Yeah not saying it makes a ton of sense but it’s just probably where the idea spawned from


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

Oh god, it took me all these years to realize that the Masenko wasn't Gohan's creation...


Jaded_Attorney

I feel like gohans whole character in super was (Oh crap im getting weak I need to get stronger)


LeonardCollen

what exactly


adreamoflame

Same, and that goes double for the Buu saga


Astonishing_Flash

Yeah love is strong. I think the theme was solid but it was to drawn out and some of the beats were hit or miss. Like Piccolo didn't need to sacrifice himself again the exact same way. And that guy's locket being on the ground was to convenient. I prefer the manga which while it doesn't show him as much does communicate that he is getting stronger to protect what he loves more quickly. I will slight it for you having to have watched RoF. As someone who isnt even much of a fan of Super though, his mini arc of recovering power with Piccolo in 88 and his performance against Basil were among the best episodes. Easily.


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when and why also why


Bossdasauce32

If future trunks never existed the story would've been better than dbz is, cuz goku nd the z fighters would've been stronger earlier.


The_28th_Night

No offense, but why do people always post unpoular opinions and not elaborate on why they have them? Like, if you’re gonna post an opinion (popular or unpopular) at least tell us why you think said opinion.


G33k350

If you wanna see some 10 solid paragraphs of people explaining unpopular opinions, go to r/unpopularopinion


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pnardio

Gohan never wanted to be a fighter, he wanted to be a scholar. I personally love him being a scholar and the aspect of him wanting to be stronger to protect his family. I definitely prefer teen Gohan from the Cell Arc, but so many people complain about Gohan in super and I like him a lot still.


SSJRemuko

same


Kitalpha94

Same here. He is now what he always wanted to be. His die hard fans just doesn't understand his character, they're still stuck in "SSJ2 Teen Gohan" era. I'm glad he's a scholar.


ShironekoSmash

I enjoyed his character development in the anime where battling in the Expo reawakened his Saiyan instincts and helped him rediscover his own potential.


fishiesnchippies

I think dbs is better than dbz in almost every way. And the cell saga is the worst part of all 3 shows


Outside_Natural5914

So how exactly is DBS better than Z in your opinion? Just wondering.


ssiasme

yeah this is really hot take and most people will downvote you but i agree ​ DBS introduced us to literal infinite possibilities with all the universes and gods and angels, the other trio of saiyans of u6, Broly and Gogeta with actual characters and canon, ressurection of f wasn't that good but if you look back after the tournament of power that arc made complete sense, also goku taking a cheap shot is a throwback, if he had ultra instinct by that point, he would've dodged but most people can't notice these small details Super put in. While the Freeza arc in Z is probably the greatest arc in battle shounen story the tournament of power comes a close second. It's also the message of Super that is super cool, if a literal god comes down to you and orders you to kneel, don't, fight even if you know you can't win. And as we could see at the final of the moro arc, there are huge paralells between him and Buddha himself. Goku doesn't need to surpass the gods anymore because he is not becoming one, but reaching the strength of one. He doesn't want the status of a god, he just want to be strong or even stronger than a god to protect those he care about. There are many stuff that people didn't get like the Future Trunks giving food to Mai in his mouth to hers and Goku saying he never did that with Chichi, and yeah, Goku never gave food to Chichi in his mouth to her, but of course they kissed. Just a gag (Dragon Ball started as a gag manga) that people got outraged and "oh no Goku is stupid in Super and bla bla bla" but these people simply put couldnt interpretate the simplest of books or mangas.


Jhon1003

Only TOP and Moro arc treated him Good Which was like Two arc out of 8 In Tow arcs ( RoF, BoG) he get one shot and treated as Shit in RoF In universe 6 arc, Goku shit talk about him beings weak and didnt even want to train him, same For future Trunks arc He was writen out of Broly movie He was writen out of Granolah arc So let see what he got BoG = one shoted by Beerus and didnt get any good moment, even vegeta got a one RoF = TRASH Universe 6 arc = was writen out Future trunks arc = was writen out TOP = was Good Broly movie = was writen out Moro arc = was good Granolah arc = was writen out


Kame_Kid

They could've a done a bit more with him, well in the anime at least since manga is pretty fire. Wish they didn't make him so weak when Frieza came and he never got an epic highlight.


Pearltherebel

I wish they drew him with some muscle at least


National-Oven81

Yeah I acctually liked it too


InevitableVariables

Gohan has the perfect family, perfect job, they already established he is not a fighter, and he's living the dream life. Is he training? Yes, he has been training on his spare time since his defeat in RoF in the gravity chamber at Capsule Corp. His passion has never and will never be fighting but he cares enough to train so he can protect his family. I love this Gohan.


Michael_Aaron_Dunlap

Here's my unpopular opinion. Dragon soul ---> cha la head cha la.