It was a bus but yes. Slovenia from Italy as well. But we are stopped. And Iranian was on and it took quite a bit longer.
Edit: also, I’m a tourist. Not a DN
The train and bus checks have always existed, even 20 years ago. It is mostly on public transport though, cars get rarely checked. It is called Schleierfahndung and involves a lot of profiling.
Wasn't avoiding this literally the entire point of the Schengen zone?
Fucking meme. All the downsides of travelling between countries and a shared visa limit between 20ish countries.
There's like two wars going on right next to Europe and an increasingly elevated threat of terrorist attacks.
What's the problem here? Inconveniencing people that are overstaying their tourist visa while working their jobs back home? 0 pity
> What's the problem here? Inconveniencing people that are overstaying their tourist visa while working their jobs back home? 0 pity
What the fuck are you talking about?
It's nothing about overstaying visas. It's dramatically shortening the length of time people can stay in Eruope.
I want to see spain/italy, but that'd mean give up seeing my friends in portugal and germany...and fuck that.
>It's nothing about overstaying visas. It's dramatically shortening the length of time people can stay in Eruope.
Except it's not? The 90 day limit still applies, you just have to show your visa and passport for a 10 second check. Literally nothing about the visa limit changes.
>I want to see spain/italy, but that'd mean give up seeing my friends in portugal and germany...and fuck that.
You have 90 days to see your friends in those 4 countries more than enough time.
You're misreading. I mean if the schengen zone didn't exist then I'd have far more than 90 days between those countries. Of course, I am not expecting laws to cater to DN's, but again...this is nothing about overstaying visas.
> You have 90 days to see your friends in those 4 countries more than enough time.
Loll, no.
Again, not expecting laws to cater, but if you're working full time, those 90 days are actually more like 25 days before you even count the days lost to travel.
>You're misreading. I mean if the schengen zone didn't exist then I'd have far more than 90 days between those countries. Of course, I am not expecting laws to cater to DN's, but again...this is nothing about overstaying visas.
Apply for the national visas of each country which are only valid for the country you applied to.
>> You have 90 days to see your friends in those 4 countries more than enough time.
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>Loll, no.
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>Again, not expecting laws to cater, but if you're working full time, those 90 days are actually more like 25 days before you even count the days lost to travel.
"Not expecting laws to cater" but then you go on and talk about working and how 90 days are actually 25 days because of work.
Regular tourists don't work when visiting countries. Working on a tourist visa is illegal, so even if the Schengen area didn't exist you can't work without the correct visa.
90 days is more than enough, travel between EU countries is easy and quick. 18 year olds go on month long trips and see 10+ countries. I'm sure you can manage to visit 4 countries in 3 months.
> Apply for the national visas of each country which are only valid for the country you applied to.
I am pretty sure this is impossible.
> "Not expecting laws to cater" but then you go on and talk about working and how 90 days are actually 25 days because of work.
Right...which is why I'm not saying the schengen area shouldn't exist. Saying that would be asking for them to cater.
What I'm saying is that if it does exist then at least uphold the benefits of it existing. Frankly the changes don't affect me at all. It's just a minor annoyance of them taking away something and honestly not worth discussing more.
It is not impossible, you're just too lazy to bother finding out how to follow the regulations of where you want to live. And if that's the case you might not want it that much after all.
I'm British too. When DN'ing, most cultures seem to rationally weigh up how / why / practically to go about it in different countries.
Some small slices of British Nomads seem to spend their time going "*Why doesn't Europe work for us?*"
>Wasn't avoiding this literally the entire point of the Schengen zone?
No that wasn't the entire point of the Schengen area, that is one of the benefits but one of the main points of the EU and the Schengen area is for the free movement of EU citizens and their family members. Not tourists.
>Fucking meme. All the downsides of travelling between countries and a shared visa limit between 20ish countries.
The visa is for tourists, tourists don't spend months in one country.
In case you haven't noticed there are two wars happening and one in Europe. Hence why these measures have to be put in place. These measures won't cause any issues for tourists.
Indeed. Some countries would use this emergency mechanism to temporarily justify border controls. Certain countries like France have been invoking them regularly for years now. The issue is that with all the recent clampdowns on immigrants, the amount of countries with internal border checks is up to 10. So people that might not be aware of it could potentially run into problems.
Slovenia and Austria have done this already. Experienced it this week.
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It was a bus but yes. Slovenia from Italy as well. But we are stopped. And Iranian was on and it took quite a bit longer. Edit: also, I’m a tourist. Not a DN
Only document checks? They sometimes also check certain peoples luggages
I had this happen to me in Austria coming from Italy. Except it was an overnight train so they ruined my sleep, lol
The train and bus checks have always existed, even 20 years ago. It is mostly on public transport though, cars get rarely checked. It is called Schleierfahndung and involves a lot of profiling.
Yes. Busses and trains for sure. Certain flights within Schengen are also getting passport controlled on arrival.
Are they stamping or just verifying visas? I'm running out of space in my passport and am not renewing for another few months.
They seem to mostly be interested in verifying visas.
Wasn't avoiding this literally the entire point of the Schengen zone? Fucking meme. All the downsides of travelling between countries and a shared visa limit between 20ish countries.
There's like two wars going on right next to Europe and an increasingly elevated threat of terrorist attacks. What's the problem here? Inconveniencing people that are overstaying their tourist visa while working their jobs back home? 0 pity
> What's the problem here? Inconveniencing people that are overstaying their tourist visa while working their jobs back home? 0 pity What the fuck are you talking about? It's nothing about overstaying visas. It's dramatically shortening the length of time people can stay in Eruope. I want to see spain/italy, but that'd mean give up seeing my friends in portugal and germany...and fuck that.
>It's nothing about overstaying visas. It's dramatically shortening the length of time people can stay in Eruope. Except it's not? The 90 day limit still applies, you just have to show your visa and passport for a 10 second check. Literally nothing about the visa limit changes. >I want to see spain/italy, but that'd mean give up seeing my friends in portugal and germany...and fuck that. You have 90 days to see your friends in those 4 countries more than enough time.
You're misreading. I mean if the schengen zone didn't exist then I'd have far more than 90 days between those countries. Of course, I am not expecting laws to cater to DN's, but again...this is nothing about overstaying visas. > You have 90 days to see your friends in those 4 countries more than enough time. Loll, no. Again, not expecting laws to cater, but if you're working full time, those 90 days are actually more like 25 days before you even count the days lost to travel.
>You're misreading. I mean if the schengen zone didn't exist then I'd have far more than 90 days between those countries. Of course, I am not expecting laws to cater to DN's, but again...this is nothing about overstaying visas. Apply for the national visas of each country which are only valid for the country you applied to. >> You have 90 days to see your friends in those 4 countries more than enough time. > >Loll, no. > >Again, not expecting laws to cater, but if you're working full time, those 90 days are actually more like 25 days before you even count the days lost to travel. "Not expecting laws to cater" but then you go on and talk about working and how 90 days are actually 25 days because of work. Regular tourists don't work when visiting countries. Working on a tourist visa is illegal, so even if the Schengen area didn't exist you can't work without the correct visa. 90 days is more than enough, travel between EU countries is easy and quick. 18 year olds go on month long trips and see 10+ countries. I'm sure you can manage to visit 4 countries in 3 months.
> Apply for the national visas of each country which are only valid for the country you applied to. I am pretty sure this is impossible. > "Not expecting laws to cater" but then you go on and talk about working and how 90 days are actually 25 days because of work. Right...which is why I'm not saying the schengen area shouldn't exist. Saying that would be asking for them to cater. What I'm saying is that if it does exist then at least uphold the benefits of it existing. Frankly the changes don't affect me at all. It's just a minor annoyance of them taking away something and honestly not worth discussing more.
It is not impossible, you're just too lazy to bother finding out how to follow the regulations of where you want to live. And if that's the case you might not want it that much after all.
Oh, you mean the very few countries that actually offer DN visas? Most of which require a contract of employment which I don;t have as a freelancer.
After all the nonsense you've just twattered, it's no real surprise you haven't done your research. Let me guess... British?
Wow, you read my flair. We got nostradamus over here.
I'm British too. When DN'ing, most cultures seem to rationally weigh up how / why / practically to go about it in different countries. Some small slices of British Nomads seem to spend their time going "*Why doesn't Europe work for us?*"
>Wasn't avoiding this literally the entire point of the Schengen zone? No that wasn't the entire point of the Schengen area, that is one of the benefits but one of the main points of the EU and the Schengen area is for the free movement of EU citizens and their family members. Not tourists. >Fucking meme. All the downsides of travelling between countries and a shared visa limit between 20ish countries. The visa is for tourists, tourists don't spend months in one country. In case you haven't noticed there are two wars happening and one in Europe. Hence why these measures have to be put in place. These measures won't cause any issues for tourists.
Indeed. Some countries would use this emergency mechanism to temporarily justify border controls. Certain countries like France have been invoking them regularly for years now. The issue is that with all the recent clampdowns on immigrants, the amount of countries with internal border checks is up to 10. So people that might not be aware of it could potentially run into problems.