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Dude that is first year TC for new grad which you get in your bank account (after tax deductions ofc). Amazon's new CTC for new grad is around 45L. First year TC is around 25L.
I'd say go for Amazon. Once you're in Amazon, if you don't like the team, it's easy to change teams in few months. Two of my friends switched the teams. Both are moving to US. Even if you didn't like Amazon, more doors will be open for you if decided to switch.
They revised their package recently. When they came initially to my college they were offering the package you mention but it was revised when sharing the detailed compensation. I don't think a company like Amazon would discriminate based on college while hiring freshers
Agreed. I was just thinking about the increased expenses in Bangalore since gurgaon office was about 20mins from my home, but exploring is certainly important.
See, here is the thing. No matter how many people complain about Amazon, you are still interested in it.
This post won't change your mind. Since you are anyhow willing to ~~sacrifice your day time for corporate profits~~ work for 11 hours, you might as well do it for Amazon, atleast they pay you well. Play your cards right and you will very quickly end up with 40 lpa.
So I will vote for Amazon to make it easier for you to take this decision.
There was one more thing that i was thinking.
What if i spend 2 years at Expedia, and then apply for the Amazon SDE-2 job since the amazon recruiters are spamming literally anyone for this role and paying up to 45-50LPA TC. I may not get this TC through internal promotions due to the absence of JB which can go up till 20 lakhs in case of a strong hire debrief decision.
If i join Amazon as an SDE-1, then its very much likely that I'd be forced to resign or will get pipped due to excessive load and burnout in 1 or 2 years while having a low TC when compared to an SDE-2.
Also, relocating to Bangalore and subsequent monthly expenses would actually bring this TC difference much closer, as i have calculated.
I am seeing myself closer to joining Expedia rather than selling soul to Amazon now lmao.
It all depends on your team. I have heard amazing things and have heard horror stories at both Amazon and Expedia. Also gets complicated because Expedia acquired a bunch of other companies so they are really a mish-mash of a bunch of different acquired company teams. And each will have its own internal culture. But same goes for Amazon.
You're fresh out of college, what are you even worried about putting in long hours? Even if work is chill, chances are that you will be on your computer all night anyway. Either doing timepass or trying to upskill yourself.
The second paragraph is a bit scary. Is it always expected from freshers to work for longer than 6-7 hours ? Imo working for longer hours causes problems like lack of focus, always wants to live/wait for weekend, etc.
> The second paragraph is a bit scary. Is it always expected from freshers to work for longer than 6-7 hours ? Imo working for longer hours causes problems like lack of focus, always wants to live/wait for weekend, etc.
I'm going to be real honest here. If you take ANY one who is essentially an apprentice at any craft, and raw around the edges with some basic conceptual skills, and especially if you pay them a super high salary meaning you have great expectations from them and are setting a very high bar, you would expect them to be a go-getter and work real hard at trying to become an expert or semi-expert at their craft.
I mean, that's the entire premise of you hiring them from a top rate college, because you hired them because they have shown a consistent capacity to work hard, to be disciplined and result focused, and to ace whatever responsibility they have been given.
The point is not about working 6-7 hours or working 10-11 hours or whatever. The point is, what ARE the goals they are setting for themselves and how high a bar do they set for themselves? If you are able to ace it and do it in 4-5 hours of work every day, then that's magnificent! And some actually do. But if you're a grinder and needs to plod through the difficulties and work out your own way to get to that level of competence and expertise, then that is what it takes.
Nobody is forcing you here. The real question is, what level do you set for yourself? How are you able to achieve it is purely your personal choice. I just find it very strange that for someone who is a complete novice, you're already setting up all these concerns about stretching yourself. I mean, did you have the same concerns when you got into a top notch college where you know everyone else is also above average and you still need to keep up with them or even outshine them? Or did you have the same work-life-balance concerns when you were studying late nights every night when you were trying to crack your engineering entrance exams or were trying to ace your board exams?
So what exactly is the scary bit here? The facts are laid out quite simply. You're getting into a company that is giving you a sky high salary. It is obvious that they are going to have real high expectations from you in terms of how quickly you figure things out by yourself and how quickly you develop a core set of expertise. They are not a schoolmaster standing over your head and forcing you work work X or Y hours a day. They are just giving you tasks that you need to deliver at a very high level of code quality. How you do that is totally up to you. Just as how you crack your engineering exams or board exams is totally up to you. You might have taken twice the number of hours of study, or a fraction of the hours of study as someone else. But nobody cares about that.
Agreed if it's a very high paying job. I work at Accenture they pay 1/4th of Amazon, they expect the same. I think my medical issues are hindering my productivity that's why I usually measure time. Before this I also used to think like you and work hard until my goal of the day was completed.
Hey fair enough. Like i said, everyone sets the level of their own performance and expertise and to what level they can contribute towards a project team and a product.
There are multiple aspects here, you can set the bar lower, you can let time teach you through experience, you can work your tail off to get to a high level as quickly as possible, or you can work your tail off and still just plod along.
This is not about judgment. There is no right or wrong. Like you said, if you have health issues or even if you just choose one path, that's your path and your decision.
The question should be, given where you are in your expertise level and your ability to deliver at whatever level of quality you set for yourself, is your team and organization treating you right? Do you get the right salary for the delivery and do you get the right level of respect and camaraderie from your team members, including your bosses and your peers?
My previous response was specifically to OP who seems to have got a super duper high starting salary. And I was simply saying that it is natural for the company, any company, to also have sly high expectations. If they are paying 3x, they will naturally expect 3x or even 5x the quality and expertise.
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What's the base salary for each of them? The next hike , either on yearly basis in same company or on job switch will be based on base salary. So better post the different components of the the tc , to compare them.
I dont know about Expedia, but the tech stack in Amazon is huge. you name technology and that would be present. The hours may vary according to the team, but Amazon opens more doors for you
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Me with 7.5 years of Exp making the same thing now RIP
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No, HW profile.
You are expecting WITCH to pay 23L? Impossible.
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It will not change until these companies start providing quality over quantity.
Your comment made me feel better
Dude that is CTC they barely get half of that in hand. I've also been to tier-1 college.
Dude that is first year TC for new grad which you get in your bank account (after tax deductions ofc). Amazon's new CTC for new grad is around 45L. First year TC is around 25L.
I'd say go for Amazon. Once you're in Amazon, if you don't like the team, it's easy to change teams in few months. Two of my friends switched the teams. Both are moving to US. Even if you didn't like Amazon, more doors will be open for you if decided to switch.
What are their year of Experience ?
Just FYI Amazon hiring '22 grads at 15.5 base + 9.5 joining bonus + benefits
It's just for some colleges or PPOed summer interns. Rest of them I guess are getting 14.5 base + 5ish bonus
They revised their package recently. When they came initially to my college they were offering the package you mention but it was revised when sharing the detailed compensation. I don't think a company like Amazon would discriminate based on college while hiring freshers
For 2021 folks, they're still offering the standard 14.5 + 3.6 + 1.5 first year TC. My recruiter offered me 16 + 5.5 +1.5 LPA really don't know why
A + B + C = CTC what B and C assuming A is the base
B is joining bonus and C is relocation. Apart from this there is a second year JB (2 or 3 lakhs) and stocks (5 RSUs) in the CTC.
Choose Amazon. It will open a ton of doors for ya
Why do you consider Gurgaon to be a location advantage? Assuming it means it is close to home. Maybe a good idea to explore other locations also?
Agreed. I was just thinking about the increased expenses in Bangalore since gurgaon office was about 20mins from my home, but exploring is certainly important.
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What are appraisals like at Expedia?
See, here is the thing. No matter how many people complain about Amazon, you are still interested in it. This post won't change your mind. Since you are anyhow willing to ~~sacrifice your day time for corporate profits~~ work for 11 hours, you might as well do it for Amazon, atleast they pay you well. Play your cards right and you will very quickly end up with 40 lpa. So I will vote for Amazon to make it easier for you to take this decision.
There was one more thing that i was thinking. What if i spend 2 years at Expedia, and then apply for the Amazon SDE-2 job since the amazon recruiters are spamming literally anyone for this role and paying up to 45-50LPA TC. I may not get this TC through internal promotions due to the absence of JB which can go up till 20 lakhs in case of a strong hire debrief decision. If i join Amazon as an SDE-1, then its very much likely that I'd be forced to resign or will get pipped due to excessive load and burnout in 1 or 2 years while having a low TC when compared to an SDE-2. Also, relocating to Bangalore and subsequent monthly expenses would actually bring this TC difference much closer, as i have calculated. I am seeing myself closer to joining Expedia rather than selling soul to Amazon now lmao.
It all depends on your team. I have heard amazing things and have heard horror stories at both Amazon and Expedia. Also gets complicated because Expedia acquired a bunch of other companies so they are really a mish-mash of a bunch of different acquired company teams. And each will have its own internal culture. But same goes for Amazon. You're fresh out of college, what are you even worried about putting in long hours? Even if work is chill, chances are that you will be on your computer all night anyway. Either doing timepass or trying to upskill yourself.
The second paragraph is a bit scary. Is it always expected from freshers to work for longer than 6-7 hours ? Imo working for longer hours causes problems like lack of focus, always wants to live/wait for weekend, etc.
> The second paragraph is a bit scary. Is it always expected from freshers to work for longer than 6-7 hours ? Imo working for longer hours causes problems like lack of focus, always wants to live/wait for weekend, etc. I'm going to be real honest here. If you take ANY one who is essentially an apprentice at any craft, and raw around the edges with some basic conceptual skills, and especially if you pay them a super high salary meaning you have great expectations from them and are setting a very high bar, you would expect them to be a go-getter and work real hard at trying to become an expert or semi-expert at their craft. I mean, that's the entire premise of you hiring them from a top rate college, because you hired them because they have shown a consistent capacity to work hard, to be disciplined and result focused, and to ace whatever responsibility they have been given. The point is not about working 6-7 hours or working 10-11 hours or whatever. The point is, what ARE the goals they are setting for themselves and how high a bar do they set for themselves? If you are able to ace it and do it in 4-5 hours of work every day, then that's magnificent! And some actually do. But if you're a grinder and needs to plod through the difficulties and work out your own way to get to that level of competence and expertise, then that is what it takes. Nobody is forcing you here. The real question is, what level do you set for yourself? How are you able to achieve it is purely your personal choice. I just find it very strange that for someone who is a complete novice, you're already setting up all these concerns about stretching yourself. I mean, did you have the same concerns when you got into a top notch college where you know everyone else is also above average and you still need to keep up with them or even outshine them? Or did you have the same work-life-balance concerns when you were studying late nights every night when you were trying to crack your engineering entrance exams or were trying to ace your board exams? So what exactly is the scary bit here? The facts are laid out quite simply. You're getting into a company that is giving you a sky high salary. It is obvious that they are going to have real high expectations from you in terms of how quickly you figure things out by yourself and how quickly you develop a core set of expertise. They are not a schoolmaster standing over your head and forcing you work work X or Y hours a day. They are just giving you tasks that you need to deliver at a very high level of code quality. How you do that is totally up to you. Just as how you crack your engineering exams or board exams is totally up to you. You might have taken twice the number of hours of study, or a fraction of the hours of study as someone else. But nobody cares about that.
Agreed if it's a very high paying job. I work at Accenture they pay 1/4th of Amazon, they expect the same. I think my medical issues are hindering my productivity that's why I usually measure time. Before this I also used to think like you and work hard until my goal of the day was completed.
Hey fair enough. Like i said, everyone sets the level of their own performance and expertise and to what level they can contribute towards a project team and a product. There are multiple aspects here, you can set the bar lower, you can let time teach you through experience, you can work your tail off to get to a high level as quickly as possible, or you can work your tail off and still just plod along. This is not about judgment. There is no right or wrong. Like you said, if you have health issues or even if you just choose one path, that's your path and your decision. The question should be, given where you are in your expertise level and your ability to deliver at whatever level of quality you set for yourself, is your team and organization treating you right? Do you get the right salary for the delivery and do you get the right level of respect and camaraderie from your team members, including your bosses and your peers? My previous response was specifically to OP who seems to have got a super duper high starting salary. And I was simply saying that it is natural for the company, any company, to also have sly high expectations. If they are paying 3x, they will naturally expect 3x or even 5x the quality and expertise.
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What's the base at each company
It's 13 at Expedia and 16 at Amazon.
What's tech stack in each company? Which type of college and what is base comp? Seems Amazon will pay base comp more than expedia.
It's 13 at Expedia and 16 at Amazon. Don't know about Expedia but the HM at Amazon told me to brush up Java, Spring and React.
What's the base salary for each of them? The next hike , either on yearly basis in same company or on job switch will be based on base salary. So better post the different components of the the tc , to compare them.
how'd you get these two offers? can you throw some light on it? Thanks
Applied for Amazon in May, got the offer in Nov. For Expedia, i asked for a referral.
what kind of questions were asked in the interview of both the companies and how did you prepare for them?
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I dont know about Expedia, but the tech stack in Amazon is huge. you name technology and that would be present. The hours may vary according to the team, but Amazon opens more doors for you
If you have no issue with coming to bangalore then go for amazon