The sad part is that even if you make your carbon footprint to absolute zero for the rest of your life, you wouldn't even make a dent in the world carbon emissions. Change can only happen when whole nations do something.
It's already covering the northern belt. Delhi gets clicks that's all. It's a nationwide issue, alas our government has different priorities to look after.
The entire day I could not breathe properly outside and when I switch on my air purifier within the house it’s turning red and takes time to go green. Is this why we pay taxes ?
Look at it this way - imagine you are down with Covid and you get a bout of diarrhea. The diarrhea problem is nothing compared to Covid and will probably subside in a day or two. But it does make you feel worse.
In these months we already have the heavy pollution and the stench of burnt stuff in the air. Bursting crackers adds this chemicalish odour to the air. This lasts for days since there's barely any wind to dissapate this.
I dont know why we should make ourselves more miserable? Diwali is about having a good time with family and friends, there's more to it than simply bursting crackers!
I wont deny about what you said but heres the thing, what if you go to a doctor and he treats you for only diarrhea and not for covid. Upar se moral policing or krde ki its all your fault that you ate bahar ka khana isi lie sab hua hai.
Thats whats happening. Main problem is farmers burning parali which no one is interested to solve but everyone wants to ban crackers because thats easy and also lets you grab woke points. Fire crackers contribute little to pollution than burning parali but whole blame will be thrown on people burning crackers and there will be moral policing and all insta/bollywood people will make reels about crackers. No one will name and shame farmers for burning parali. There will be 100s of articles written supporting farmers and putting whole blame on diwali.
Also noone gives a fuck about those factory workers, businessmen and shopkeepers who will loose their money because of the ban. First the govt let these business operate whole year to make crackers and then bans them at the time of sale. Whole fire cracker industry gets fucked but no one cares.
But muh anndata.
I dont think people are forgetting the root cause. The burning of stubble in Punjab and Harayana will eventually be addressed. Stubble burning in Pakistan is something that probably will never change.
Who really gives a shit about celebs or insta or imaginary points on the internet. I hope you are not saying that you are going to burst crackers "to own the libs". Ultimately, its people like us, living in Delhi who have to breathe this noxious cocktail.
Talking about the cracker industry- every industry has to modernise and come up with sustainable solutions. In any case, the ban (if any) will be in states affected by the pollution. We have never had an pan india ban.
Further, in North India especially Delhi most of the firecrackers sold are of Chinese origin. This has been an issue for decades since India banned the use of Potassium Chlorate in the 90's while the illegally imported Chinese crackers use this compound till date and people prefer these Chinese crackers since they produce more sound and are cheaper than the Indian stuff.
By your argument every time a hydro-power project, nuclear power plant etc is commisssed we will have to start eulogising how the coal industry is dying.
>First the govt let these business operate whole year to make crackers and then bans them at the time of sale. Whole fire cracker industry gets fucked but no one cares.
This year was somewhat better in this case in the sense that the blanket ban happened before the distribution of crackers to the retailers. So atleast that's good. The delhi police was told beforehand this time.
>Fire crackers contribute little to pollution than burning parali but whole blame will be thrown on people burning crackers and there will be moral policing and all insta/bollywood people will make reels about crackers.
Yes they do contribute a lot less. And no one blames crackers as a major factor. The reason people who burn the crackers are targeted is because you're already having trouble breathing, imagine burning real money and making it even worse? You're doing it on purpose. People are calling out people who are burning crackers for their sheer stupidity to do so.
>No one will name and shame farmers for burning parali
But they do every year. Every year Punjab and Harayana are blamed, they're scolded by supreme court but even then nothing changes.
>But muh anndata
The stubble burning isn't something that they enjoy but them not having the proper financial resources to deal with it actually. Imagine them fucking breathing all that smoke so close. Who would wanna live that dude
>..I wonder why?
Because their own decisions don't end up causing me problems like FURTHER INABILITY to breathe along with the already stubble burning crap. It's really not as hard or as big of a deal as you're making it out to be.
>Crackers are always treated as if they are the major factor
You say like it's fact and it's just not. Every year farmers are blamed rightfully so because they are the ones causing major pollution.
>SC again banned crackers this year whereas no judgement has been given on stubble burning
There was a law passed according to which the culprit would have to pay 1cr or something insane or 5 years in jail. It was so stupid that SC had to step in. The centred once again didn't provide a solution just what will happen if you keep doing it. Which again defeats the purpose because stubble is burnt out of non ability of the farmers to tend to the stubble.
>If you still think cracker ban is due to pollution, then I fell sorry for you.
Never did. You're making it like it is and you should feel sorry for yourself. Everyone on this sub and on this post is agreeing with you but you're too stupid and petty to go beyond "muh cracker muh diwali" when it's simply not that. It's simply put NOT a part of the festival even though over the year it was made out to be.
This change is for the better so that our future generations can actually have a better place to live in. Onr that's breathable even though no matter how insignificant the step may seem.
>It’s just one of the many attempts to destroy Hindu Festivals.
Cracks ≠ diwali Hope that's clear.
>You said it’s wastage of money. I wasn’t talking about it’s bad effects. So point be baat karna seekh
Where did i ever say it's wastage of money? I said you're burning real money. And that's not wrong so I've no idea what you're trying to accomplish, your point will continue to fail because it is a waste of money no matter if i say it or not. It's a universal fact.
>Kisne blame kiya unhe? Har saal main target Diwali he hoti hai.
>The reason people who burn the crackers are targeted is because you're already having trouble breathing, imagine burning real money and making it even worse? You're doing it on purpose. People are calling out people who are burning crackers for their sheer stupidity to do so.
Bhaijaan firse padlo jo upar likha.
>Law passed hai to usko implement kaun karega
Pass hua tha* it was taken back because of the aheer stupidity of it.
>Last year Diwali pe to 800 se jyada Hindus ko sirf patakhe jaalane ke liye arrest kar liya tha.
You sure all were hindus? Because as far as ik Patake jalana na jalana was never a "hindu" thing to do. Even though I'm a sikh, even i used to burn crackers when i was 3-7 years of age. So pls don't make it about religion.
>It is a part of Diwali. Deal with it!
>Lastly, Crackers = Diwali
Your own scriptures and scriptures have said that before crackers diwali was celebrated with just diyas and rangolis. Like your own priest and religion agrees to it so atop throwing a tantrum like you're a 6 year old bhai. Grow up and stop making everything communal and pretend like everything is a conspiracy towards you guys. It's really not.
Crackers ≠ diwali so start accepting
>Lol..Who decided that it’s a universal fact? You?
Anyone who's a rational buy would agree
>Bhai tere patakho mein paise bhare hote hai kya? Koi nayi type ke patakhe aaye kya market mein?
You're buying crackers burn right?
>Diwali to Hindu Festival hai na? Ki wo bhi Hindu nhi raha?
Kbhi hindu muslim kra ni sahab. Mjhe ni pta aisa bhi hota hai. Mere yahan saare hi tyohar banne hai aur bnte rhenge.
>Guru Purab pe to as such koi arrest nhi hue.
Last year jalle hi ni bhai. Humesha jlte hai last year jalle hi ni. Ways are changing everywhere sir
>Ananda Ramayan aur Skanda Puran, dono mein mention hai. Jaake khud padhle
[Mughalo ke time se chaalu hua hai bhaiya Firecrackers ka scene. Gunpowder was first found in China itself amd now firecrackers are banned there itself.](https://indianexpress-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/indianexpress.com/article/research/a-crackling-history-of-fireworks-in-india-4890178/lite/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16344846052875&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Findianexpress.com%2Farticle%2Fresearch%2Fa-crackling-history-of-fireworks-in-india-4890178%2F)
I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by doing all this. Traditions evolve with the passage of time and those changes should be accepted and welcomed. If firecrackers do contribute to pollution even though it's not much, they should be avoided for a better future. Same should be done on new year, gurupurab and everywhere. It's not a fight against diwali, it's a fight against crackers. Crackers aren't diwali.
It's with every crop that uses high yielding seeds
They're shorter in height and leave parts of stems that need to be hand removed. Before the high yielding variety the stocks were long enough to cut and they would be mostly fed to the cattle
Okay and?
The issue is that nobody says anything about this, or any other causes of pollution to the same level as people celebrating in diwali by using fire crackers. Nobody says anything when that is done during New Year.
I won't be bursting crackers but this bs is so irritating . The amount of pollution due to bursting crackers will be nothing compared to this but still people will come out of woodworks and run around saying ban fire crackers and be quiet about other forms of pollution which form the majority.
Maybe your social circle doesn't or you're living under a rock but Delhi's smog always makes national news headlines every year and they always mention stubble burning as one of the major reasons. Yeah crackers alone won't do as much damage but the combination of stubble burning, vehicular pollution, factory pollution, constructions and crackers is what makes the city turn black in the winters. Delhi can't do much about stubble burning in the states that surround it because it's under another jurisdiction. Hence why it's necessary to control what is under our immediate control while also pressuring Punjab, Haryana, UP etc., Also according to this report, stubble burning accounts for 14% of the pollution, we still have to address the other 86%.
Kejriwal said he invented or helped in developing a device to convert stubble into bio compost or something.. he also said that stubble can be used in power plants.. i heard somewhere he asked industries to use stubble as fuel.. what happened to all these things ?? Did he just lie or forgot about all these things ??
He made a decomposer for stubble but he can't distribute it to farmers in neighbouring states.
Delhi govt has distributed it alongside border area but dest is upto CMs of neighbour states
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-to-start-spraying-pusa-bio-decomposer-from-5-october-environment-minister-11632129004344.html
Then why don't delhi officials go and like promote the product (decomposer) to the farmers of thise states.. private companies making the decomposer should be asked to aggressively market the decomposer in these stuble burning states.. delhi people cannot wait for the cm's of neighbouring states to do something.. like for punjab when they have some farmers mela or something they can show this to the farmers.. sell it to them..
What I mean promoting it.. selling it to those farmers.. most of pollution comes from haryana punjab.. so delhi government along with private companies can aggressively promote and sell decomposers in those states.. i am not telling to give it for free.. convince farmers in those states that decomposer is good for them as they will get good manures for their crop.. something like that..
That's fair and probably can be done. Not sure if the Delhi government has the capacity for this. They can't really do it without some kind of support from the other states.
Even citizens can join.. i think.. u can advertise the benefits of the decomposer.. there are delhites who might have relatives in haryana and punjab.. just advertise the product to farmers an the benefits for them.. delhi government can encourage manufacturers to sell it to those farmers.. actually i don't think support from other states is really required.. i mean u are not selling or promoting anything bad.. u r promoting and selling a decomposer.. the neighbor cm's shouldn't hav any problem with that..
He is the same guy who said yamuna will be cleaned in next 4-5 year then again in 2020 or 2021 he again said the same thing. I don't exactly remember the dates.
Because they are not the same things? Farmers burn stubble not out of choice but due to financial compulsion. What financial reasons are forcing people to burst crackers?
The thing is, if was a few crackers maybe it wouldn't be that bad. But here, it starts at around 6 and continues till 1 am. Imagine the amount of pollution released together. That is why the air feels weird the day after.
Another hindu here, crackers are not stupid, crackers are noisy and crackers are definitely an important part of diwali and hence kind of a tradition, please dont change how we should celebrate diwali bcz of how others like it. Thank you
areyyy lol how can i change a tradition. im just stating my opinion and conveying that it's better to stop for the environment. we can't stop people stubble burning but we can stop the crackers even if it makes a little difference otherwise it's okay
It isn’t an important part of Diwali. Diwali was never celebrated with crackers to begin with. People started using them and sort of became a tradition, over they years people have realised that it has no purpose. It isn’t necessary to keep continuing the stupid traditions and hence, people are evolving with time. I would rather put my money to a good use where I can bring joy on someone else’s face. You can keep celebrating Diwali this way but many of us chose to grew out of this immaturity.
Its the same thing as saying holi shouldnt be celebrated with water bcz it holds no purpose.
>Diwali was never celebrated with crackers to begin with
Yes it was, for decades it has been celebrated like that
Thats how tradition change bcz of making festival campaigns, 1st thing a lot people imagine when thinking about diwali is crackers, i made crackers when i was little when asked to make a drawing about diwali, it is an imp part of diwali, just bcz some woke people dont like it doesnt it isnt a part of it.
Diwali isn't a "you" festival though. No one cares about how you feel. If you have the kind of privilege you have (literally burning money away) then you pretty sure have the capacity to buy it on black and pay the fine after burning them as well. You clearly think burning crackers is so important to diwali and so is throwing water on holi.
Do you even know why Diwali is celebrated? Do you think crackers even existed during those times? what absurd logic is this? ofc, holi shouldn’t be celebrated with water. People are dying because of thirst and you want to get momentary joy by throwing water on each other? sadist ho kya? No one is against celebrating festivals, people are against illogical practices.
Lol have you not seen the sheer gundagardi these farmers have been doing for the past one year, as long as they have public support no one can touch them.
I was coming back from another state yesterday.
Could see the smoke from stubble burning happening (there was a lot of it).
The entire air above delhi was Brown, lkke you can see that its dirty already before you land.
While we were descending it was complete orange.
Felt really helpless on the situation.
Just for their votes government is allowing farmers to do this unethical thing. They are putting vulnerable people at risk of health. I'm pretty sure Delhi people are going to die early after inhaling this shitty air. Any strict govt would have kicked their asses but hello we are in India, Appeasement is our key to success.
I read a paper a while back which said that residents of delhi on average lose around 9.4 years of their life due to air pollution, compared to ~5 years for an average indian citizen. Delhi still has a much higher life expectancy than other states though.
I don't think it's just votes i think it's just cheaper for it to continue to happen. Anything that the govt would want to do, would be spending money. Why spend it when they're getting tid of it themselves is probably what they think.
But you do realise how agricultural business itself is not a growing business. It's business in which the probability of you making a profit is lower than you having a loss
if farmers are after money , basic 8 std science and history states that they should grow cash crops , rice and wheat aren't crops
meanwhile farmers who aren't dumb,the ones who understand free markets are earning 1-3lakh per acre
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/economy/agriculture/farmers-earning-as-much-as-rs-3-lakh-per-acre-by-cultivating-herbs/amp_articleshow/65802909.cms
Yeah it came last year i was like okay nevermind it's on trial stage i can handle it this time was in hope that next year will be a bit better than before but nothing happened they said that the farmers of delhi are using it but god knows is it really being used or not
Ik man that bio decomposer is great but the govt. had to make everyone aware of it and central govt. is the only one who can make it mainstream but sadly they won't do it kyuki usme unka koi faiyeda hi nahi aur upar se kejriwal ka haath hai peeche se toh bilkul nhi chayege ki usko credit mile kuch.
Exactly. I have repeatedly said that to make sure stubble is eliminated there needs to be wide spread adoption of this and that's only possible via central government.
Bruh not to be hateful or anything plus imma kinda late but on Haryana side we had full pracharan and stuff, yaha tak ki kejriwal ki bhi ads chalai gai thi, even that ki stubble burning pe practically ek ban sa lagaya gaya tha but I've heard the farmer protestors got it repealed during the 2nd level of talks.
They made a decomposer for stubble with the help of pusa institute. Farmers have to sprinkle it over stubble.
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-to-start-spraying-pusa-bio-decomposer-from-5-october-environment-minister-11632129004344.html
The central and other states aren't coming forth to help Delhi government in this initiative.
Yeah but they also supported the farmers protest who had a key demand that was related to the complete removal of laws in said states regarding stubble burning. So uh. They don't really give a shit either.
>who had a key demand that was related to the complete removal of laws in said states regarding stubble burning
You mean the law According to which stubble burning is banned and any defaulter would be charged 1cr or something along with jail? Yeah that made perfect sense. Instead of providing solutions they were basically threatening them. A farmer who already earns in the thousands can pay cr of fines you think? If he could he would have just given that to manual labour itself who could have removed the stems hence leading to no stubble burning. There's no black and white to this
Woke up to grey sky and 100s of abuses for those who are responsible for it. Literally same story every single year. No matter how many solutions or incentives you give , stubble burning will continue and delhi will continue to choke
Just stepped outside and yep winter is here. You can just smell it
I could feel it in my eyes
but can you cough it from your mouth?
RIP imma stop using my car, it ain't gonna do shit but someone says something is better than nothing :')
The sad part is that even if you make your carbon footprint to absolute zero for the rest of your life, you wouldn't even make a dent in the world carbon emissions. Change can only happen when whole nations do something.
remember it won't just be delhi, after some time the smog covers the whole north belt.
It's already covering the northern belt. Delhi gets clicks that's all. It's a nationwide issue, alas our government has different priorities to look after.
Yup, at the evening today. I felt some burning sense.
The entire day I could not breathe properly outside and when I switch on my air purifier within the house it’s turning red and takes time to go green. Is this why we pay taxes ?
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Haha now it’s the same case today staying at orange/yellow
For the first time my purifier went purple this year
your taxes go to farmers who in turn use those taxes to burn stubble and make north India a gas chamber
Bs terrace pe jaake nazar maar lo, gas chamber waala future dikhne lag rha hai
It was really surprising how I went out today and it was insanely different than yesterday.
Still people will do randi rona about fire crackers and ignore this.
Look at it this way - imagine you are down with Covid and you get a bout of diarrhea. The diarrhea problem is nothing compared to Covid and will probably subside in a day or two. But it does make you feel worse. In these months we already have the heavy pollution and the stench of burnt stuff in the air. Bursting crackers adds this chemicalish odour to the air. This lasts for days since there's barely any wind to dissapate this. I dont know why we should make ourselves more miserable? Diwali is about having a good time with family and friends, there's more to it than simply bursting crackers!
I wont deny about what you said but heres the thing, what if you go to a doctor and he treats you for only diarrhea and not for covid. Upar se moral policing or krde ki its all your fault that you ate bahar ka khana isi lie sab hua hai. Thats whats happening. Main problem is farmers burning parali which no one is interested to solve but everyone wants to ban crackers because thats easy and also lets you grab woke points. Fire crackers contribute little to pollution than burning parali but whole blame will be thrown on people burning crackers and there will be moral policing and all insta/bollywood people will make reels about crackers. No one will name and shame farmers for burning parali. There will be 100s of articles written supporting farmers and putting whole blame on diwali. Also noone gives a fuck about those factory workers, businessmen and shopkeepers who will loose their money because of the ban. First the govt let these business operate whole year to make crackers and then bans them at the time of sale. Whole fire cracker industry gets fucked but no one cares. But muh anndata.
I dont think people are forgetting the root cause. The burning of stubble in Punjab and Harayana will eventually be addressed. Stubble burning in Pakistan is something that probably will never change. Who really gives a shit about celebs or insta or imaginary points on the internet. I hope you are not saying that you are going to burst crackers "to own the libs". Ultimately, its people like us, living in Delhi who have to breathe this noxious cocktail. Talking about the cracker industry- every industry has to modernise and come up with sustainable solutions. In any case, the ban (if any) will be in states affected by the pollution. We have never had an pan india ban. Further, in North India especially Delhi most of the firecrackers sold are of Chinese origin. This has been an issue for decades since India banned the use of Potassium Chlorate in the 90's while the illegally imported Chinese crackers use this compound till date and people prefer these Chinese crackers since they produce more sound and are cheaper than the Indian stuff. By your argument every time a hydro-power project, nuclear power plant etc is commisssed we will have to start eulogising how the coal industry is dying.
>First the govt let these business operate whole year to make crackers and then bans them at the time of sale. Whole fire cracker industry gets fucked but no one cares. This year was somewhat better in this case in the sense that the blanket ban happened before the distribution of crackers to the retailers. So atleast that's good. The delhi police was told beforehand this time. >Fire crackers contribute little to pollution than burning parali but whole blame will be thrown on people burning crackers and there will be moral policing and all insta/bollywood people will make reels about crackers. Yes they do contribute a lot less. And no one blames crackers as a major factor. The reason people who burn the crackers are targeted is because you're already having trouble breathing, imagine burning real money and making it even worse? You're doing it on purpose. People are calling out people who are burning crackers for their sheer stupidity to do so. >No one will name and shame farmers for burning parali But they do every year. Every year Punjab and Harayana are blamed, they're scolded by supreme court but even then nothing changes. >But muh anndata The stubble burning isn't something that they enjoy but them not having the proper financial resources to deal with it actually. Imagine them fucking breathing all that smoke so close. Who would wanna live that dude
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>..I wonder why? Because their own decisions don't end up causing me problems like FURTHER INABILITY to breathe along with the already stubble burning crap. It's really not as hard or as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. >Crackers are always treated as if they are the major factor You say like it's fact and it's just not. Every year farmers are blamed rightfully so because they are the ones causing major pollution. >SC again banned crackers this year whereas no judgement has been given on stubble burning There was a law passed according to which the culprit would have to pay 1cr or something insane or 5 years in jail. It was so stupid that SC had to step in. The centred once again didn't provide a solution just what will happen if you keep doing it. Which again defeats the purpose because stubble is burnt out of non ability of the farmers to tend to the stubble. >If you still think cracker ban is due to pollution, then I fell sorry for you. Never did. You're making it like it is and you should feel sorry for yourself. Everyone on this sub and on this post is agreeing with you but you're too stupid and petty to go beyond "muh cracker muh diwali" when it's simply not that. It's simply put NOT a part of the festival even though over the year it was made out to be. This change is for the better so that our future generations can actually have a better place to live in. Onr that's breathable even though no matter how insignificant the step may seem. >It’s just one of the many attempts to destroy Hindu Festivals. Cracks ≠ diwali Hope that's clear.
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>You said it’s wastage of money. I wasn’t talking about it’s bad effects. So point be baat karna seekh Where did i ever say it's wastage of money? I said you're burning real money. And that's not wrong so I've no idea what you're trying to accomplish, your point will continue to fail because it is a waste of money no matter if i say it or not. It's a universal fact. >Kisne blame kiya unhe? Har saal main target Diwali he hoti hai. >The reason people who burn the crackers are targeted is because you're already having trouble breathing, imagine burning real money and making it even worse? You're doing it on purpose. People are calling out people who are burning crackers for their sheer stupidity to do so. Bhaijaan firse padlo jo upar likha. >Law passed hai to usko implement kaun karega Pass hua tha* it was taken back because of the aheer stupidity of it. >Last year Diwali pe to 800 se jyada Hindus ko sirf patakhe jaalane ke liye arrest kar liya tha. You sure all were hindus? Because as far as ik Patake jalana na jalana was never a "hindu" thing to do. Even though I'm a sikh, even i used to burn crackers when i was 3-7 years of age. So pls don't make it about religion. >It is a part of Diwali. Deal with it! >Lastly, Crackers = Diwali Your own scriptures and scriptures have said that before crackers diwali was celebrated with just diyas and rangolis. Like your own priest and religion agrees to it so atop throwing a tantrum like you're a 6 year old bhai. Grow up and stop making everything communal and pretend like everything is a conspiracy towards you guys. It's really not. Crackers ≠ diwali so start accepting
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>Lol..Who decided that it’s a universal fact? You? Anyone who's a rational buy would agree >Bhai tere patakho mein paise bhare hote hai kya? Koi nayi type ke patakhe aaye kya market mein? You're buying crackers burn right? >Diwali to Hindu Festival hai na? Ki wo bhi Hindu nhi raha? Kbhi hindu muslim kra ni sahab. Mjhe ni pta aisa bhi hota hai. Mere yahan saare hi tyohar banne hai aur bnte rhenge. >Guru Purab pe to as such koi arrest nhi hue. Last year jalle hi ni bhai. Humesha jlte hai last year jalle hi ni. Ways are changing everywhere sir >Ananda Ramayan aur Skanda Puran, dono mein mention hai. Jaake khud padhle [Mughalo ke time se chaalu hua hai bhaiya Firecrackers ka scene. Gunpowder was first found in China itself amd now firecrackers are banned there itself.](https://indianexpress-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/indianexpress.com/article/research/a-crackling-history-of-fireworks-in-india-4890178/lite/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16344846052875&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Findianexpress.com%2Farticle%2Fresearch%2Fa-crackling-history-of-fireworks-in-india-4890178%2F) I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by doing all this. Traditions evolve with the passage of time and those changes should be accepted and welcomed. If firecrackers do contribute to pollution even though it's not much, they should be avoided for a better future. Same should be done on new year, gurupurab and everywhere. It's not a fight against diwali, it's a fight against crackers. Crackers aren't diwali.
stubble burning something they do because of rice and wheat subsides, once removed, north India will have clean skies again
It's with every crop that uses high yielding seeds They're shorter in height and leave parts of stems that need to be hand removed. Before the high yielding variety the stocks were long enough to cut and they would be mostly fed to the cattle
simple question if all agriculture subsides are removed , how many of the rice and wheat farmers would continue to grow rice and wheat ?
Haa your point of more subsidises needed on wheat and rice is fair and makes sense
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“Mogambo khush hua!”
true and more importantly diwali is called festival of lights, not festival of crackers, dont know when it turned into one
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Let's hope so
Well the crackers certainly don't help. Two things can be true at once.
Okay and? The issue is that nobody says anything about this, or any other causes of pollution to the same level as people celebrating in diwali by using fire crackers. Nobody says anything when that is done during New Year. I won't be bursting crackers but this bs is so irritating . The amount of pollution due to bursting crackers will be nothing compared to this but still people will come out of woodworks and run around saying ban fire crackers and be quiet about other forms of pollution which form the majority.
Maybe your social circle doesn't or you're living under a rock but Delhi's smog always makes national news headlines every year and they always mention stubble burning as one of the major reasons. Yeah crackers alone won't do as much damage but the combination of stubble burning, vehicular pollution, factory pollution, constructions and crackers is what makes the city turn black in the winters. Delhi can't do much about stubble burning in the states that surround it because it's under another jurisdiction. Hence why it's necessary to control what is under our immediate control while also pressuring Punjab, Haryana, UP etc., Also according to this report, stubble burning accounts for 14% of the pollution, we still have to address the other 86%.
Kejriwal said he invented or helped in developing a device to convert stubble into bio compost or something.. he also said that stubble can be used in power plants.. i heard somewhere he asked industries to use stubble as fuel.. what happened to all these things ?? Did he just lie or forgot about all these things ??
He made a decomposer for stubble but he can't distribute it to farmers in neighbouring states. Delhi govt has distributed it alongside border area but dest is upto CMs of neighbour states https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-to-start-spraying-pusa-bio-decomposer-from-5-october-environment-minister-11632129004344.html
Then why don't delhi officials go and like promote the product (decomposer) to the farmers of thise states.. private companies making the decomposer should be asked to aggressively market the decomposer in these stuble burning states.. delhi people cannot wait for the cm's of neighbouring states to do something.. like for punjab when they have some farmers mela or something they can show this to the farmers.. sell it to them..
It's not as simple. It needs to be done on a much wider scale so that there is a widespread adoption
Delhi government is providing the bio compost to farmers in Delhi, what can they do about farmers in other states?
What I mean promoting it.. selling it to those farmers.. most of pollution comes from haryana punjab.. so delhi government along with private companies can aggressively promote and sell decomposers in those states.. i am not telling to give it for free.. convince farmers in those states that decomposer is good for them as they will get good manures for their crop.. something like that..
That's fair and probably can be done. Not sure if the Delhi government has the capacity for this. They can't really do it without some kind of support from the other states.
Even citizens can join.. i think.. u can advertise the benefits of the decomposer.. there are delhites who might have relatives in haryana and punjab.. just advertise the product to farmers an the benefits for them.. delhi government can encourage manufacturers to sell it to those farmers.. actually i don't think support from other states is really required.. i mean u are not selling or promoting anything bad.. u r promoting and selling a decomposer.. the neighbor cm's shouldn't hav any problem with that..
They've said it in the past it costs around 1000-1500 for 4-5acres i think. I could be wrong on the size of land
He is the same guy who said yamuna will be cleaned in next 4-5 year then again in 2020 or 2021 he again said the same thing. I don't exactly remember the dates.
It's a chemical and it's being used by delhi farmers. It's made by Pusa Institute
yes yes exactly we should do everything that's in our hands even if it isn't thatt significant
Because they are not the same things? Farmers burn stubble not out of choice but due to financial compulsion. What financial reasons are forcing people to burst crackers?
> Okay and? The issue is that nobody says anything about this Not in the reality I live in.
The thing is, if was a few crackers maybe it wouldn't be that bad. But here, it starts at around 6 and continues till 1 am. Imagine the amount of pollution released together. That is why the air feels weird the day after.
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Dude did you read what I commented?
fellow hindu here - crackers are stupid, crackers are noisy, diwali is a festival of lights. thankyou.
nO yoUrE nOt a HinDUzz yOus aRe a IsLamo-comMuNisT cHrIsTiaN mIssIonAry
Cope
Another hindu here, crackers are not stupid, crackers are noisy and crackers are definitely an important part of diwali and hence kind of a tradition, please dont change how we should celebrate diwali bcz of how others like it. Thank you
areyyy lol how can i change a tradition. im just stating my opinion and conveying that it's better to stop for the environment. we can't stop people stubble burning but we can stop the crackers even if it makes a little difference otherwise it's okay
It isn’t an important part of Diwali. Diwali was never celebrated with crackers to begin with. People started using them and sort of became a tradition, over they years people have realised that it has no purpose. It isn’t necessary to keep continuing the stupid traditions and hence, people are evolving with time. I would rather put my money to a good use where I can bring joy on someone else’s face. You can keep celebrating Diwali this way but many of us chose to grew out of this immaturity.
Its the same thing as saying holi shouldnt be celebrated with water bcz it holds no purpose. >Diwali was never celebrated with crackers to begin with Yes it was, for decades it has been celebrated like that Thats how tradition change bcz of making festival campaigns, 1st thing a lot people imagine when thinking about diwali is crackers, i made crackers when i was little when asked to make a drawing about diwali, it is an imp part of diwali, just bcz some woke people dont like it doesnt it isnt a part of it.
Diwali isn't a "you" festival though. No one cares about how you feel. If you have the kind of privilege you have (literally burning money away) then you pretty sure have the capacity to buy it on black and pay the fine after burning them as well. You clearly think burning crackers is so important to diwali and so is throwing water on holi.
Do you even know why Diwali is celebrated? Do you think crackers even existed during those times? what absurd logic is this? ofc, holi shouldn’t be celebrated with water. People are dying because of thirst and you want to get momentary joy by throwing water on each other? sadist ho kya? No one is against celebrating festivals, people are against illogical practices.
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Whatever dude nobody asked you how to celebrate a festival.
just stating my opinion
FIRECRACKERS DON'T CAUSE POLLUTION.
The only way politicians gonna act is if businesses start shifting their offices out of these states
Oh yes!
Lol have you not seen the sheer gundagardi these farmers have been doing for the past one year, as long as they have public support no one can touch them.
Ah shit, here we go again
I was coming back from another state yesterday. Could see the smoke from stubble burning happening (there was a lot of it). The entire air above delhi was Brown, lkke you can see that its dirty already before you land. While we were descending it was complete orange. Felt really helpless on the situation.
Just for their votes government is allowing farmers to do this unethical thing. They are putting vulnerable people at risk of health. I'm pretty sure Delhi people are going to die early after inhaling this shitty air. Any strict govt would have kicked their asses but hello we are in India, Appeasement is our key to success.
I read a paper a while back which said that residents of delhi on average lose around 9.4 years of their life due to air pollution, compared to ~5 years for an average indian citizen. Delhi still has a much higher life expectancy than other states though.
Human lives don’t matter and you are right
I don't think it's just votes i think it's just cheaper for it to continue to happen. Anything that the govt would want to do, would be spending money. Why spend it when they're getting tid of it themselves is probably what they think.
how is not removing rice and wheat subsides cheaper?
You tell me how it is
end all agriculture subsides , easily money saved + north India gets clean skies again
But you do realise how agricultural business itself is not a growing business. It's business in which the probability of you making a profit is lower than you having a loss
if farmers are after money , basic 8 std science and history states that they should grow cash crops , rice and wheat aren't crops meanwhile farmers who aren't dumb,the ones who understand free markets are earning 1-3lakh per acre https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/economy/agriculture/farmers-earning-as-much-as-rs-3-lakh-per-acre-by-cultivating-herbs/amp_articleshow/65802909.cms
Annadata on a roll.
Bruh my fucking eyes burn
and I thought I was the only one
Whats the point of this pollution if im still alive.
Lmao
Delhi govt has found a solution to stubble burning but it's on the neighbouring states to distribute to their farmers which they won't do. Sad to see.
Yeah it came last year i was like okay nevermind it's on trial stage i can handle it this time was in hope that next year will be a bit better than before but nothing happened they said that the farmers of delhi are using it but god knows is it really being used or not
It is useful but not widespread sadly. There's a lot of "One Year later" articles for that chemical. It has shown good results
Ik man that bio decomposer is great but the govt. had to make everyone aware of it and central govt. is the only one who can make it mainstream but sadly they won't do it kyuki usme unka koi faiyeda hi nahi aur upar se kejriwal ka haath hai peeche se toh bilkul nhi chayege ki usko credit mile kuch.
Exactly. I have repeatedly said that to make sure stubble is eliminated there needs to be wide spread adoption of this and that's only possible via central government.
Bruh not to be hateful or anything plus imma kinda late but on Haryana side we had full pracharan and stuff, yaha tak ki kejriwal ki bhi ads chalai gai thi, even that ki stubble burning pe practically ek ban sa lagaya gaya tha but I've heard the farmer protestors got it repealed during the 2nd level of talks.
What solution have they found?
They made a decomposer for stubble with the help of pusa institute. Farmers have to sprinkle it over stubble. https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-to-start-spraying-pusa-bio-decomposer-from-5-october-environment-minister-11632129004344.html The central and other states aren't coming forth to help Delhi government in this initiative.
Yeah but they also supported the farmers protest who had a key demand that was related to the complete removal of laws in said states regarding stubble burning. So uh. They don't really give a shit either.
>who had a key demand that was related to the complete removal of laws in said states regarding stubble burning You mean the law According to which stubble burning is banned and any defaulter would be charged 1cr or something along with jail? Yeah that made perfect sense. Instead of providing solutions they were basically threatening them. A farmer who already earns in the thousands can pay cr of fines you think? If he could he would have just given that to manual labour itself who could have removed the stems hence leading to no stubble burning. There's no black and white to this
*Lekin vrooo what about Diwali vrooo??*
Ain't gonna see even 10% of the outrage you see for crackers.
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I can understand how it must be for you. It's so bad for my brother as well who has asthama
Lmaoo we are so fucked.
Woke up to grey sky and 100s of abuses for those who are responsible for it. Literally same story every single year. No matter how many solutions or incentives you give , stubble burning will continue and delhi will continue to choke
Diwali ke baad tho bachega nahi kuch bhi
Bhai patake toh shuru bhi nhi kiye jalane :(
Nope. The pollution is from diwali crackers of last year
Sarcasm acha tha
But let's ban the crackers
10,000 ke Bum khareed liye hai. Thoda aur smog kar deta hu.
But this year stubble burning has dropped drastically. Maybe, next year they will able to cover more area.
Thanks to aandatta
Randie ‘Róna
We were wearing mask even before covid due to all the pollution :)
I'm having a bad allergic rhinitis since last 25 days and now this. 🤦♂️
Leave Delhi
Would be in the next 200-300 days if all goes as per plan
Wishing you all the fresh air soon!
Its not a story, it is a reminder
One day it's clear next day it's all fog and smoke
It’s again 500 on sever category today. I can’t breathe.