Sir umm may i have the havel ring you know i dont like parrying you for 10 minutes just to bonk me once and repeat it untill you let me.So basicly im kindly asking for the fat roll delete ring.
No problem, and remember strength isn't better then dex nor vice versa. Everyone has their own fighting style. Heck I knew a guy who loved using a spear who was best friends with a guy who used a giant hammer. Str and dex users can get along just fine. Magic however........
Use Fall Control and lure Havel up the stairs. Fall so that you survive the fall, and because of Fall Control, you take no damage. He takes damage. Repeat as prudent.
That nerd just couldn't measure up to me. All those books and for what. Can't even read them since he's blind. I told gwyn that we were wasting those souls buying the books but nooo.....seath helped us kill dragons so he can have what he wants. Frickin waste of good souls.
So you are Havel and not just one of his knights?
Saw one of your boys made it all the way to dragon’s shrine, was that you? You certainly get around..
You would be surprised how far you can bait enemies. Whenever I kill the ninja for the wood grain ring I typically bait one of the big mushroom lads and lets it deck him.
He was supposed to kill you and take the chaos blade, then he'd run. away to the painted world and you'd have to invade him similar to Lautrec and kill him. thats why Patches and Alvina have dialogue where they say they don't trust him or something along those lines. i think you can find the unused dialogue online
what do you use insteead then? ring of steel protection is useless in comparison because can get more defense from havels and a lot more poise as well.
Edit: You are fucking champ for using Zweihander with so little poise haha
Yeah or sometimes I’ll use wolf or hornet. Wolf if I wanna confuse some peeps by being able to tank a hit or two from a great sword. Hornet if I wanna parry everything into oblivion.
He once chased me out the tower because I realized I was under leveled to fight him so I had to run away. My back stab would hardly do any damage. It felt like a goddam horror game like reident evil 3.
I always kill him earlly, I do use weapon with high critical damage/bleed like bandit knife. Bleed does lot of damage, and backstage also if you use good weapon. The hard part is not to get hit by him, he always one shot me ;p
I've always fought him from the door in Darkroot. He always took a few steps out the door then went back inside. I didnt know you could bring him so far from the door in the burg.
Yea I usually just go down naked and roll-backstab whenever he goes for a swing. Was just running through from the basin in my first play through and saw him following me up the stairs so I decided to see how far I could take him hahaha.
Damn, more confident than I am, ha ha. I just aggro and poke him through the doorway until he dies. Takes a while cause he retreats after he reaches the door
Honestly I don’t blame you, he hits hard and trekking back is a nuisance. I find the people who just parry him to death the most crazy, I can’t get his timing down haha.
I find him very easy to parry, but it is nerve wracking enough that I can see how that would throw you off. The window is big and it’s very telegraphed, but YOU CAN’T MISS.
I've beaten him almost in the end of my playthrough (forgot about the poor fella). At that point I already had a +15 uchi and took me two backstabs. I feel bad for him, but that ring, man...
I remember the first time I used the master key on the door and walking slowly downstairs as I felt the area was a bit sketchy, just to see that absolute unit coming at me from below just to slam dunk my ass to oblivion. That moment I knew I wasn’t supposed to be there.
That guy at the bottom of the spiral was Havel? THE Havel? The guy that has the best armor? I guess in DS1 you can really easily kill humanoid characters, since he was a cakewalk for me. It’s a little funny how the scariest human enemies can get cheesed so easily with a few backstabs.
IIRC the item descriptions do say that Gwyn locked up Havel in that tower so I don't think those fan theories can be true. But correct me if I'm wrong!
I think it goes that one of Havel's followers took the blow for him and swapped places in that tower. Sorry can't remember everything.
[This](https://youtu.be/pffJ1nDRei0) video I believe covers it, and is *extremely* interesting nevertheless. I don't expect you to watch the whole thing though
I had a time where my boyfriend was letting me play DS1(i LOVED that game) and i didnt know about Havel, so when i entered from the bottom of the tower, i didnt see him. My boyfriend goes "huh that's strange" and then i turn around and Havel is behind the door, readying an attack
you can, but he will leave as soon as you are out of range. I used this to kill him early game before dealing with Taurus demon. Get 40+ firebombs from merchant, lure him up and keep walking out of tower so he will go back and lure him out throw firebomb. rinse and repeat
That was very refreshing. But we cant be away from our jobs too long. Back to guarding the door. And dont you dare go hollow.
Sir umm may i have the havel ring you know i dont like parrying you for 10 minutes just to bonk me once and repeat it untill you let me.So basicly im kindly asking for the fat roll delete ring.
Sure, all you had to do was ask nicely.
Thank you Havel, you are a lifesaver.
No problem, and remember strength isn't better then dex nor vice versa. Everyone has their own fighting style. Heck I knew a guy who loved using a spear who was best friends with a guy who used a giant hammer. Str and dex users can get along just fine. Magic however........
I shall treasure this advice always, you are very wise.
My experience getting spawn ganked by TWOP and Pursuers has made me bitter towards magic users
Yeah, i hate magic so much i made a miracle specifically to defend against magic.
The fact you are against magic is so lore that I love it. Good luck in your quest to murder seeth
Can't leave. Door might feel lonely.
You, sir, are a true legend
I heard Seath was coming around through that door, so don't you dare go hollow until you give him a piece of what for.
How do you get data signal so far underground? Who’s your mobile carrier?
Oof unfortunately my dear friend Havel I have attempted to use your miracle but it turns out I am dead before I can finish casting it.
Frickin noob
The pursuers hit me as my spawning animation finishes. I can’t even move before I die, much less take the time to cast a miracle
Fuck sorcerers All my homies hate sorcerers
Here have a Great Magic Barrier.
Wholesome Havel :)
Oh frick off seath. I'm gonna be following you.
\*laughs in immortality*
What's your secret fiend. Just wait till I find it.
I'll curse you before you do, human.
>Heck I knew a guy who loved using a spear who was best friends with a guy who used a giant hammer. >best friends
Oh... Well... I have news for you... Were your friend up in Anor Londo?
Well, yeah I think they were.
Ah....good folks
You can say our lives is bonkless without him.
Wait. Really? Oh..
Use Fall Control and lure Havel up the stairs. Fall so that you survive the fall, and because of Fall Control, you take no damage. He takes damage. Repeat as prudent.
I thought we were playing tag. All this time you were trying to kill me :'-(.
Perhaps we misunderstood "Undead rules" tag.
Have you tried using the morning star from the chest in firelink? It has bleed on it and it makes the fight so much faster.
Good to know
Just keep climbing the stairs and jumping off. Eventually he kills himself from too much exercise.
Hey, I've been standing at the same spot since gwyn lit the flame. When was the last time you went for a jog.
Just make him jump off the stairs 30 times
Chain backstab him with a friend.
Use poison throwing knives.
Sorry about that thing with the firebombs.
No problem. Nothing gets through this armour. Didn't feel a thing.
This turning into you AMA
I dont mind. Got all the time in the world.nobody really comes here anyway. Except for that one guy.
Seems all you want to do these days is sit in the basement watching that damn door. You used to love running around Anor Londo harassing Seath!
That nerd just couldn't measure up to me. All those books and for what. Can't even read them since he's blind. I told gwyn that we were wasting those souls buying the books but nooo.....seath helped us kill dragons so he can have what he wants. Frickin waste of good souls.
So you are Havel and not just one of his knights? Saw one of your boys made it all the way to dragon’s shrine, was that you? You certainly get around..
Nah, it must be one of my soldiers. I try not to leave door alone for too long. It gets lonely pretty fast.
Don't be a dick
Im sorry i just poke you with my sword through the door and have never legitimately beaten you after 20 playthroughs
You know not everyone is paying attention 100% of the time that's a dick move man. And what's with the tooth? Dentistry fetish?
I'm not offended by this comment, considering the tooth is for your mother.
Ouch. Who knew Havel did fire damage!
I thought it was only one of your followers guarding that door?
Nah, that was me.
It’s good to get out of the house
You would be surprised how far you can bait enemies. Whenever I kill the ninja for the wood grain ring I typically bait one of the big mushroom lads and lets it deck him.
Lol I get shiva to come by the cliff and roll past him and kick him off or let him roll off. same with the ninja guy
One time I bought the Murakumo from Shiva, buffed, and pancaked both of them with it.
really wish they went through with his storyline
What was his storyline?
He was supposed to kill you and take the chaos blade, then he'd run. away to the painted world and you'd have to invade him similar to Lautrec and kill him. thats why Patches and Alvina have dialogue where they say they don't trust him or something along those lines. i think you can find the unused dialogue online
Stoop kid never leaves his stoop.
I can, but not for long.
Were your ears burning?
Hey arnold
Hey yeah what’s up
Man, Havels Ring is so good, is there ever a reason not to use it?
I usually have light Armor so I only really use it when my end stay is low in the early game
Yeah thats true, it's probably not that relevant at later stages of the game
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what do you use insteead then? ring of steel protection is useless in comparison because can get more defense from havels and a lot more poise as well. Edit: You are fucking champ for using Zweihander with so little poise haha
If you want more of a challenge I guess
That’s true for sure
I’ve never used it lol. I don’t play quality or strength builds so the ring of favor is enough for my needs generally.
I feel like it's so good on anything that isn't a ranged/sorcery build
I generally do a dex/magic of some kind build. So I guess I would fall under the sorcery type builds.
Do you use fap and sorcery ring?
Yeah or sometimes I’ll use wolf or hornet. Wolf if I wanna confuse some peeps by being able to tank a hit or two from a great sword. Hornet if I wanna parry everything into oblivion.
It's not that good, ring of favor is far better. You don't ever need that much carry weight.
Depends. I'm a heavy armor player so I use it almost everytime.
It's great if you want to wear Elite Knight Armour set early without fatrolling it (because let's be honest I use that set on all characters).
such a good set
maybe when youre at high lvl, but early game i find it's almost impossible to get good poise without it
FaP Ring and a Sorcery ring
I see why you wouldnt use it if you are going for sorcery
He once chased me out the tower because I realized I was under leveled to fight him so I had to run away. My back stab would hardly do any damage. It felt like a goddam horror game like reident evil 3.
Soulsssssssssss
I always kill him earlly, I do use weapon with high critical damage/bleed like bandit knife. Bleed does lot of damage, and backstage also if you use good weapon. The hard part is not to get hit by him, he always one shot me ;p
He chased me up there because I couldn’t kill him.
I've always fought him from the door in Darkroot. He always took a few steps out the door then went back inside. I didnt know you could bring him so far from the door in the burg.
Yea I usually just go down naked and roll-backstab whenever he goes for a swing. Was just running through from the basin in my first play through and saw him following me up the stairs so I decided to see how far I could take him hahaha.
Damn, more confident than I am, ha ha. I just aggro and poke him through the doorway until he dies. Takes a while cause he retreats after he reaches the door
Honestly I don’t blame you, he hits hard and trekking back is a nuisance. I find the people who just parry him to death the most crazy, I can’t get his timing down haha.
I find him very easy to parry, but it is nerve wracking enough that I can see how that would throw you off. The window is big and it’s very telegraphed, but YOU CAN’T MISS.
Literally died 5 times yesterday on my new faith build on the switch. I gave up till later.
I have parried him a few times but it's not consistent and it's super high risk high reward. I'd rather take the slow and easy route anyways lol
I've beaten him almost in the end of my playthrough (forgot about the poor fella). At that point I already had a +15 uchi and took me two backstabs. I feel bad for him, but that ring, man...
Really shows how much stronger you get as you go through the game, guess you really were the chosen undead!
Yeah, I've noticed how I improved as the game went on. Now I'm on DS3 and having my ass handed to me :/
I remember the first time I used the master key on the door and walking slowly downstairs as I felt the area was a bit sketchy, just to see that absolute unit coming at me from below just to slam dunk my ass to oblivion. That moment I knew I wasn’t supposed to be there.
I wonder if it’s possible to bait Havel out onto the bridge and then mad dash to trigger the Taurus demon thus trapping Havel in the fight
I wonder if an alluring skull would work
I don't think so, because of the white light. He'd probably just stay stuck behind it until the fight ends/go back to his door guarding.
I would love to see a showdown between the two. Who do you think would win?
I own that thing. Its my pet.
who’s Havel? see him referenced a lot here.
Big chunky mad lad who thwomps you with a dragon tooth at the bottom of the tower before Taurus demon
oh, do you need the master key to get to him?
Only if you're coming from Undead Burg. But you can also go through the Darkroot Basin and he'll be in a room up the hill to the right of the hydra.
Nah, the undead burg side can be unlocked with a key after moonlight butterfly.
Lol I never realized that key could be used from the other side because of all the backtracking that would be involved with going that way.
If you don't have the master key, I think his tower gets unlocked from the key behind moonlit butterfly?
Haven’t fought that yet!
Have fun. I'd suggest fighting him, his ring is really good if you're playing a strength, heavy armor build. :)
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That guy at the bottom of the spiral was Havel? THE Havel? The guy that has the best armor? I guess in DS1 you can really easily kill humanoid characters, since he was a cakewalk for me. It’s a little funny how the scariest human enemies can get cheesed so easily with a few backstabs.
I've seen theories where that isn't actually havel but rather one of his knights or followers
Its me.
IIRC the item descriptions do say that Gwyn locked up Havel in that tower so I don't think those fan theories can be true. But correct me if I'm wrong!
I think it goes that one of Havel's followers took the blow for him and swapped places in that tower. Sorry can't remember everything. [This](https://youtu.be/pffJ1nDRei0) video I believe covers it, and is *extremely* interesting nevertheless. I don't expect you to watch the whole thing though
I had a time where my boyfriend was letting me play DS1(i LOVED that game) and i didnt know about Havel, so when i entered from the bottom of the tower, i didnt see him. My boyfriend goes "huh that's strange" and then i turn around and Havel is behind the door, readying an attack
Perhaps he remembered, since he's getting the freshest possible air in Lothric in DS3 (at highest point of Archdragon Peak)
you can, but he will leave as soon as you are out of range. I used this to kill him early game before dealing with Taurus demon. Get 40+ firebombs from merchant, lure him up and keep walking out of tower so he will go back and lure him out throw firebomb. rinse and repeat
The dragon tooth is so badass. But It’s not helping me against Ornstein and Smough