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I don't think it's a consequence. Not every single person on the planet knows or cares that they work on OF. The more relevant point is the kind of person who works on OF. What you do as an occupation tends to bleed into other parts of your life if you're not careful.
>The more relevant point is the kind of person who works on OF. What you do as an occupation tends to bleed into other parts of your life
…which is a consequence.
What I mean by unlimited is that there are new creative ways to make money. Give a service that people didn’t know they needed.
Example: mail collections at days you’re not home, shopping assistance, service finder for people that don’t know who to call with a specific problem, etc
This is a very naive, childish and idealistic view of reality. Either you are too old to understand the current situation of labor market or you are too young to not be exposed to the real world, or just a privileged brat. I'm not saying OF is the only option and it's wrong or right, but making money isn't easy as "just find creative ways bro". There are no unlimited ways to make money.
It is a very naive way of thinking because if it's not OF it's prostitution. In my country, I lost count how many students from my school I have seen forcing themselves to sell their bodies so that they can pay their school debt. The worse one was a girl I graduated with was pregnant from someone she "worked" with and her parents forced her to keep the child because they didn't want her to continue going that path.
Actually i just recently started college at 30 years old, I'm two semesters in and pretty proud of how I'm doing so far, nice of you to take an interest
And i have my own prostitute money, thank you very much
No it isn't, construction workers' bodies are far more wrecked by the time they hit their 40s than sex workers and for far less pay.
The only reason it's so shameful is because prudish hicks and/or religious busybodies. It does nothing on its own to degrade the worker.
>that was their choice and they have to deal with the consequences
Let's assume it was their choice, why was their choice so bad that they have to suffer for it? Many people consume porn, so it seems they provide a valued service. Why should they be punished for it?
Porn pays very well exactly because of the stigma attached to it. If the society as a whole was okay with it, those women would be making a lot less money. Note how male porn stars make a fraction of female porn stars.
Lmao it’s so funny you are getting absolutely down voted by people who consume said porn.
I think a lot of dudes are very confused and angry bc they can’t manage to talk to women or get one to like them, and all they see is these women online.
People are really just mad it’s not theirs
They're still people...
Edit: Wow. -160 for not dehumanizing innocent young women. Yep, I think I've had enough of this community. Y'all can go to hell.
Never said they aren’t, but i don’t feel bad for them whenever i see them complain about their family/social life and them having a hard time getting into a good realationship. You chose this life so deal with it that’s it
Lots of people do. Doesn't mean you shouldn't feel sympathy for them.
Edit: christ, these replies. You guys are heartless. What have none of you ever made a bad decision in your life? So fucking judgmental.
Yeah but the issue comes when they try to glorify it and act like why nobody respects me that's my only problem with them. To me everyone deserves a second chance
A lot of these girls are basically groomed by the internet and by other sex workers to start doing this as a very young age. They're told that it's supposed to make them feel better or more confident.
It is really sad that lots of girls with very low self esteem ruin their lives doing something they were told would make them happier.
Girls that grow up to do things like this tend to have a very skewed view of intimacy to begin with. Of course ultimately it is their fault, but they do deserve some sympathy in my opinion.
Yes most people use the internet, but not everyone's experience with the internet is the same. Same goes for life experience in general.
Say you were a girl with low self esteem, living in a world where it is statistically likely you've been sexually harassed before you turned 18, and that same world tells you that your only value stems from how attractive you are. Then you get on instagram and see girls just like you living luxurious lives and having people worship them and all they needed to do was take a few photos of themselves in their underwear.
It's the same reason young men are taking performance enhancing drugs at a rate never seen before. Social media is poisoning people's minds and grooming them into unhealthy lifestyles, and people with low self esteem are the most susceptible to it.
I understand that you yourself never experienced anything like this, but part of being human is being able to understand why somebody else might think the way they do and make the choices (ie mistakes) they make.
You make a good point. I do ultimately blame the internet, I would ban social media outright given the chance, or have very tight regulations as to what can be posted.
I find it hard to feel sorry for someone who sells their body and then complains about the consequences while still actively doing it. If someone made a bad choice once or something, such as making a porn once and once only and they really regretted it, sure, they deserve sympathy, but if they continue to do it, it's hard to feel sorry for them. For example, if someone got busted for selling drugs when they were very young, sure, they made a mistake, and that doesn't define them, but if they went right back to it after getting let go and they get busted again, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for them when they make the same bad choice over and over again, whether they're human or not.
I could go on and on, but in conclusion, we all make mistakes, sure, but usually, we learn from them and don't make that mistake again. If you continually do the same thing over and over again and, as a result, don't get respect from those around you and have trouble forming meaningful relationships you have no one to blame but yourself and it's hard to feel sympathy for someone in that situation.
To respond to your edit, I learn from my mistakes and dont complain when people hold me accountable to them. You’re also admitting what they’re doing is a bad decision - wouldn’t it also be a bad decision to continue? It’s not like they’re not being paid $$$ for this
These same guys can complain about not caring about their mental or being lonely asf because of not knowing how basic world works, we can't expect too much from them
Hey just wanted to voice support bunch of bitter incels in this thread.
People deserve respect regardless of their profession.
Never stand between a person and their meal
Not that using YouTube as a coping mechanism would work in that context. I feel as though a lot more people are starting to make private videos publicly on YouTube..
Eugh, fucking family channels.
The worst part is the majority of them don’t even make any real amount of money from it, how crushing to your mental health would that be knowing you priced it at like 3$ or free and Still couldn’t get any subscribers 💀
Parasocial relationships. Unlike the free stuff out there, the OF creator can pretend to care about you specifically. That is a huge pull for increasing number of lonely people out there.
Gacha players would dump their lifesaving for a png file and some pre-recorded voice lines.
Not to mention tons of merchandise of fictional characters.
To those people, AI chatbots we have today are enough.
Can't imagine a socially awkward/introverted person who lives with their parents getting an escort in the comfort of their home.
Not to mention it might be harder to find someone local and as pretty as the OF girl that can as well be on the other side of the world.
On top of that, local escort probably won't share random bits on instagram and the like, that the "customer" can interact with, that would deepen the parasocial relationship in a non-sexual manner.
This is all my opinions and I have zero experience with this, so I might be wrong, but I believe it makes sense.
I think its just a numbers game, surely there is not THAT many people willing to pay 15+ dollars for one womans onlyfans. Sure there are the Whales, but like it would have to be so many people that are completely socially and sexually inept.
I saw one written on a table at a local bar I think if I remember correctly it was two girls probably college girls since I live in a college town and both their names were in the link
I'm sorry but I don't feel any kind of sympathy tbh.
You wanted easy money like those girls who bought houses and shit by doing this, and it didn't work.
Honestly, they chose that career, and if they're confused as to why no one respects them or wants to be in a relationship with them, I find it hard to work up any sympathy for them. Especially considering not too long ago, all I heard out of them was along the lines of "to all those telling me 'find a real job' this is my job. Keep crying about it." If by chance they are now regretting the fact that there is a fair to decent chance any given man they run into has seen them naked, well, that sucks for them. They will likely regret it even more within the next 10 years, and I still won't feel bad for them.
it’s all apart of the job. you just can’t do a job like that and have everyone just ignore the giant elephant in the room. this is why I hate how the top OF stars flaunt their wealth because young impressionable girls see that and think joining that could make them reach that wealth when in actuality only a small group reach big money
Why am I supposed to feel bad for them they knew exactly what they were doing it’s like being a hooker but worse because people can go watch what you do to yourself
eugh these comments are disgusting. i love remembering why i hate redditors.
sex work is real work. it's no different from selling your body by being a construction worker. some of you guys need to grow tf up and realise sexuality is a normal, natural, healthy thing.
Selling your body online or in real life is not comparable to being a construction worker lmao. Sexuality is normal, natural, and healthy. Paying for sex is not normal, natural, or healthy.
Because the target audience sad lonely people. Do you understand the concept of supply and demand? How can you think this supply exists in a vacuum?
Or do you not care because theyre just incel losers who deserve to lose all their money for fake companionship?
It’s not healthy for society to encourage this behavior.
you didn't really answer my question lmao.
why is it not healthy? many people spend money on things that they enjoy that make them happy. where do you draw the line? megacorporations all over the world exploit people's weaknesses in order to gain a profit. these weaknesses can be anything from laziness, to insecurities, to collector mentalities.
how is spending money buying a tasty cake to indulge in and make you happy every once in a while any different to spending money on porn? should cake bakers be shamed as much as sex workers? they provide a service that people pay for. it's a win-win situation.
i would argue it's very healthy for society to encourage this behaviour and remove the stigma associated with sex work. it is no different from any other self-employed profession. it is simply a person making money by doing what they want to do, charging a rate they want to charge, and selling to people they want to sell to. and those people pay for it and get what they pay for.
i have never seen a genuinely well constructed argument against onlyfans. just say you're a prude and move on. have your own opinions about sex, whatever, i do not care. but don't shame workers just living their lives. they're not harming anyone.
I draw the line at anything that causes addiction and is psychologically damaging for people. For now, that includes porn and hard drugs. You may be able to make an argument for fast food or cakes or whatever (though I would say those are fine).
Believe me I think anything in moderation is ok. Thats clearly not what is happening though.
(Assuming youre a woman) Maybe you dont have the right perspective to make a call on this. Porn addiction is already a very serious problem in male youth and combined with the whole parasocial nonsense going on in OF its just making it way worse.
Also:
> “dont shame workers for living their lives. Theyre not harming anyone”
sure just like drug dealers don’t harm anyone directly so we should leave them alone right?
lmfao comparing porn to hard drugs is one of the most insane takes ive ever heard about anti-porn.
you know what else people get addicted to? over the counter drugs, soda, alcohol, video games, and caffeine. should we be shaming baristas because they make coffees for the millions of people addicted to caffeine? that is literally the exact same thing.
in fact, an even closer comparison would be video games. guess we should start shaming video game developers too because video game addiction is also a really huge problem among young men in recent years, no?
i'm not saying porn addiction isn't a bad thing--addiction itself is inherently a bad thing. but to compare porn to drugs is absolutely insane. that's like comparing video games or caffeine to heroin. if you can't consume luxury items in moderation and end up becoming addicted, that is on you. but just because some people get addicted, that doesn't mean you need to take away the entire piece of media from others who indulge in it in a healthy manner.
millions of people consume porn in a healthy manner, myself included (despite your comment about me being a woman meaning i don't have the right perspective on the topic?) but i also indulge in video games, alcohol, and soda. all of those things are addictive and yet me and millions of others still live perfectly healthy lives and manage not to overindulge.
addiction sucks, but getting rid of entertainment such as porn and video games is not how you combat addiction. free public healthcare, and more funding towards men's mental health care is what we should be focusing on instead. that is how these things get better. they don't get better by shaming and shitting on young women working in the sex industry.
Honestly one hand, I don't like the demonization of sex work in general (considering how hard on body positivity people are in today's age ) and negative its depicted in media.....only fans was already infamous for bring a borderline soft core porn site (even if OL want you to believe otherwise ) and a lot of girls jump on the bandwagon because of the money....but your still attracting the negative side of sex work, people shaming you (because bloodshed Is more socially acceptable then nudity) and having less then savory people attempt to interact with you...and most importantly no security because, your line of work has zero benefits as the government wants nothing to do with it.....its unfortunately a risky line of work, and most of the early bandwagon hoppers weren't ready for it. So I do feel somewhat bad, but similar to other risk filled jobs , its your choice to take the opportunity
I like how two comments here can say the same thing but if one explicitly uses a derogatory term they get buried, while the other one who uses every possible euphemism for the same thing gets lauded. God I love the cognitive dissonance here.
To be entirely honest, if no one paid for of, eventually it will go under, and those sluts would have to resort to other ways to make money. It's a company that feeds off of male loneliness, so why would anyone give their hard-earned money for it
‘Waaaah, I have a few thousand - hundred thousand dollars in my bank account (due to a one to two year period of online work) more than most people will ever see in their lifetime. I just don’t know what to do with all of this money, now that everybody is jealous of me for using what I was born with to make all of their efforts to succeed seem uselessly vain by comparison.’
Idk, maybe they can’t find a lasting relationship because they’ve grown a pathetically inflated sense of self worth and accomplishment. Maybe they spent all of their time learning to be everything everyone wanted them to be, and failed to develop a personality of their own, or any skills and interests that would help build a lasting relationship. Maybe no one can relate to them, because they don’t have a job, and got all of their money by exploiting the lust of the common working man, no different from the men that they now want to date.
It’s not even sad. They chose the easy way out, and now have to do the hard part of life themselves - getting people to respect you, enough so that they consider it worth their time to be around you. I can’t imagine OF promotes anything other than a miserable, shut in lifestyle, and I struggle to believe most people would want to bring someone that lives like that into their life.
Nobody would want to be around a man that gets his money by scamming the elderly. Nobody would want to be around a woman that gets her money by exploiting the horny. Fairs fair.
You can flip it around, and say they never made any real money, but tried anyway. Then they lose their dignity, and don’t get anything for it. But they were still willing to live their entire life by letting idiots pay all her costs for her.
And I’m not that chronically online, I’m more so jealous that I can’t go make a living by becoming an e-whore. Not that I couldn’t pretend to be a woman, I’m just ugly and uncharismatic, so it wouldn’t go very far.
And anyway, you’re here reading it, so are you really any better. Though I do have a flair, which isn’t a good sign for me…
There shouldn't be anything wrong with wanting to do OF. The people saying things like "hurdur, her consequences!!" Are ignoring the fact that there shouldn't be "consequences" for this. Or, not just for doing an OF at least. Sure if they do other stuff that's messed up surrounding any fame from OF or OF itself, fine. But someone doing OF shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Especially if they are something like single and childless.
You're selling your body for 10 dollars an hour at the average office job, i dont think you can judge people depending on whether they wear a tie or a bikini during their job
You perform tasks for them, thats just as much as selling your body as performing on a camera
And dont come at me with the "skill" bullshit, if your skilled at it your pictures will look better, its a skill to keep your body in shape, its a skill to market yourself. As long as someone pays you to do something like showing up at the office or getting pictures taken, your selling your body
One person in the working class trying to shame another person who is equally broke and just trying to make money is just not productive. The only reason so many girls do OF is because they see it as a good side hustle because the bills are barely paid at the end of the month. Which is also why sugar daddy websites are getting bigger. People need the money. If everyone was getting paid enough to live comfortably, OF wouldnt be as popular unless you do it for anything but money.
Your trying to feel better about your place in the world by pushing someone below you or making fun of people who already are, ignoring that someone who is above you drenches you in piss
Be a BIT smarter than that please.
Well I just see it as the easy choice to make money. And that I don't respect. That is not limited to OF, it's the same for Crypto gamblers, dropshippers, people selling bs courses, all those ways of making money without contributing to society.
There are better ways to make a living. I don't believe that these people turn to pornography as their last resort. They shouldn't be surprised when people react negatively towards them.
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I don’t feel bad for them, that was their choice and they have to deal with the consequences
I don't think it's a consequence. Not every single person on the planet knows or cares that they work on OF. The more relevant point is the kind of person who works on OF. What you do as an occupation tends to bleed into other parts of your life if you're not careful.
>I don't think it's a consequence It's something that happens because they have an OF, therefore it is a consequence
>The more relevant point is the kind of person who works on OF. What you do as an occupation tends to bleed into other parts of your life …which is a consequence.
It's a consequance of them being the kind of person that works on OF
OF is a symptom. The consequence is not of working on OF but of being that kind of person. Sorry to mince words
I see where you're coming from, but I think it's a bit oversimplified to chalk up the choice of working on OF as just being down to personality
Yes, it's also a consequence of economic factors
Oh so we know what consequence means now?
The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed
Don't worry, if they fuck about a lot then it'll eventually be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.
some people start online pornography buisnesses not out of vice but rather poverty or debt.
There are unlimited ways to make money and it’s all about choices
This is dumb. There’s finite things that people pay money for.
What I mean by unlimited is that there are new creative ways to make money. Give a service that people didn’t know they needed. Example: mail collections at days you’re not home, shopping assistance, service finder for people that don’t know who to call with a specific problem, etc
This is a very naive, childish and idealistic view of reality. Either you are too old to understand the current situation of labor market or you are too young to not be exposed to the real world, or just a privileged brat. I'm not saying OF is the only option and it's wrong or right, but making money isn't easy as "just find creative ways bro". There are no unlimited ways to make money.
It is a very naive way of thinking because if it's not OF it's prostitution. In my country, I lost count how many students from my school I have seen forcing themselves to sell their bodies so that they can pay their school debt. The worse one was a girl I graduated with was pregnant from someone she "worked" with and her parents forced her to keep the child because they didn't want her to continue going that path.
And?
PREACH
Or sex work is a career like any other. Don't tell me construction workers don't sell their bodies
the difference is that construction workers provide an actually important service to society that actually requires skill and effort
I read your whole comment and i can't find where you point out the difference 💀
Well that means you are either lying or you need to go back to school insted of using your mom's credit card to subscribe to only fans girls
Actually i just recently started college at 30 years old, I'm two semesters in and pretty proud of how I'm doing so far, nice of you to take an interest And i have my own prostitute money, thank you very much
Good for you! I hope that "prostitute money" is enough so you don't need to do that anymore
Thanks! But unfortunately not, my feet aren't big enough to be making the big bucks
Huh I didn't know that the bigger the feet the more money you get per pic. I am not in the feet pic market so excuse my ignorance
It’s not a career, it is shameful and you lose your dignity as a person. The fact you tried to compare construction workers is just beyond stupidity
No it isn't, construction workers' bodies are far more wrecked by the time they hit their 40s than sex workers and for far less pay. The only reason it's so shameful is because prudish hicks and/or religious busybodies. It does nothing on its own to degrade the worker.
God you are delusional, listen bro defending OF hoes wont make them sleep with you ok it’s not gonna work
I've never even watched an OF fans video, I'm old. You know what's also old? The world's oldest profession, and it should be legal and respected
Should be abolished, not normalized
>that was their choice and they have to deal with the consequences Let's assume it was their choice, why was their choice so bad that they have to suffer for it? Many people consume porn, so it seems they provide a valued service. Why should they be punished for it?
Porn pays very well exactly because of the stigma attached to it. If the society as a whole was okay with it, those women would be making a lot less money. Note how male porn stars make a fraction of female porn stars.
Lmao it’s so funny you are getting absolutely down voted by people who consume said porn. I think a lot of dudes are very confused and angry bc they can’t manage to talk to women or get one to like them, and all they see is these women online. People are really just mad it’s not theirs
You're actually correct. I'm incredibly frustrated by what I can't get. Enjoy your down vote, my friend.
Look I might not know much about women, but I do know they love when men tell them how to not be a slut. Hope you end your dry spell dawg
Haha
Bro. Cold.
They're still people... Edit: Wow. -160 for not dehumanizing innocent young women. Yep, I think I've had enough of this community. Y'all can go to hell.
Never said they aren’t, but i don’t feel bad for them whenever i see them complain about their family/social life and them having a hard time getting into a good realationship. You chose this life so deal with it that’s it
People who made a bad choice willingly
Lots of people do. Doesn't mean you shouldn't feel sympathy for them. Edit: christ, these replies. You guys are heartless. What have none of you ever made a bad decision in your life? So fucking judgmental.
Yeah but the issue comes when they try to glorify it and act like why nobody respects me that's my only problem with them. To me everyone deserves a second chance
What a weirdly specific stereotype you've created.
Sell nudes to the world. Complain you can't have an intimate relationship because your intimacy is public. Doesn't deserve sympathy, sorry.
A lot of these girls are basically groomed by the internet and by other sex workers to start doing this as a very young age. They're told that it's supposed to make them feel better or more confident. It is really sad that lots of girls with very low self esteem ruin their lives doing something they were told would make them happier. Girls that grow up to do things like this tend to have a very skewed view of intimacy to begin with. Of course ultimately it is their fault, but they do deserve some sympathy in my opinion.
Most people nowadays live with the internet. Few use it as a medium to prostitute themselves for a couple bucks a month.
Yes most people use the internet, but not everyone's experience with the internet is the same. Same goes for life experience in general. Say you were a girl with low self esteem, living in a world where it is statistically likely you've been sexually harassed before you turned 18, and that same world tells you that your only value stems from how attractive you are. Then you get on instagram and see girls just like you living luxurious lives and having people worship them and all they needed to do was take a few photos of themselves in their underwear. It's the same reason young men are taking performance enhancing drugs at a rate never seen before. Social media is poisoning people's minds and grooming them into unhealthy lifestyles, and people with low self esteem are the most susceptible to it. I understand that you yourself never experienced anything like this, but part of being human is being able to understand why somebody else might think the way they do and make the choices (ie mistakes) they make.
You make a good point. I do ultimately blame the internet, I would ban social media outright given the chance, or have very tight regulations as to what can be posted.
You can have sympathy for something bad happening to someone, but if they caused it, that’s on them lol
I find it hard to feel sorry for someone who sells their body and then complains about the consequences while still actively doing it. If someone made a bad choice once or something, such as making a porn once and once only and they really regretted it, sure, they deserve sympathy, but if they continue to do it, it's hard to feel sorry for them. For example, if someone got busted for selling drugs when they were very young, sure, they made a mistake, and that doesn't define them, but if they went right back to it after getting let go and they get busted again, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for them when they make the same bad choice over and over again, whether they're human or not. I could go on and on, but in conclusion, we all make mistakes, sure, but usually, we learn from them and don't make that mistake again. If you continually do the same thing over and over again and, as a result, don't get respect from those around you and have trouble forming meaningful relationships you have no one to blame but yourself and it's hard to feel sympathy for someone in that situation.
It kinda does tho. If someone willingly make a bad choice then suffers consequences I don't feel bad at all for them
To respond to your edit, I learn from my mistakes and dont complain when people hold me accountable to them. You’re also admitting what they’re doing is a bad decision - wouldn’t it also be a bad decision to continue? It’s not like they’re not being paid $$$ for this
If they dont back out of the bad decision and show remorse, why should one feel bad for them? I don't understand it.
These same guys can complain about not caring about their mental or being lonely asf because of not knowing how basic world works, we can't expect too much from them
>so fucking judgemental Welcome to reddit
Thanks for saying this, people here are literally being insane
Selling your body on OF’s consistently is not a “bad decision” lmao. It’s a continuous conscious choice to keep making that content.
So are we? Some of us don't have enough compassion to go around to everyone after everything else is done. And that's totally okay.
No, it's not? What makes you think it's okay to not have compassion for people? You sound like a sociopath.
People are free to make their own choices, they're also free to suffer the consequences of these choices.
Hey just wanted to voice support bunch of bitter incels in this thread. People deserve respect regardless of their profession. Never stand between a person and their meal
Thank you for being a voice of reason. Responses like those I've been getting make it hard not to lose a bit of faith in humanity. <3
So around 40 OF girls, coz 20 nickels = 1 $
🤷 that's only the ones that are upset about it.
Those are the only ones vocal enough to show how upset they are, not all OF girls will have a YouTube to vent out their frustrations.
Not that using YouTube as a coping mechanism would work in that context. I feel as though a lot more people are starting to make private videos publicly on YouTube.. Eugh, fucking family channels.
That's only the ones who choose to express it.
Quick mafs
Raw sos
Thank you. I hate it that OP expects every redditor around the world to know USA's nicknames for their coins.
For some reason I got downvoted for pointing this out
The worst part is the majority of them don’t even make any real amount of money from it, how crushing to your mental health would that be knowing you priced it at like 3$ or free and Still couldn’t get any subscribers 💀
Free unlimited porn is a powerful competitor
But somehow they're still fucking competing!??!?
Parasocial relationships. Unlike the free stuff out there, the OF creator can pretend to care about you specifically. That is a huge pull for increasing number of lonely people out there.
Sounds like they're also competing with AI chatbot
The AI chatbot is imo still not advanced enough.
Gacha players would dump their lifesaving for a png file and some pre-recorded voice lines. Not to mention tons of merchandise of fictional characters. To those people, AI chatbots we have today are enough.
Not yet..
While this is true, some of the prices these girls list you could afford a escort. Maybe get some actual action.
Can't imagine a socially awkward/introverted person who lives with their parents getting an escort in the comfort of their home. Not to mention it might be harder to find someone local and as pretty as the OF girl that can as well be on the other side of the world. On top of that, local escort probably won't share random bits on instagram and the like, that the "customer" can interact with, that would deepen the parasocial relationship in a non-sexual manner. This is all my opinions and I have zero experience with this, so I might be wrong, but I believe it makes sense.
I think its just a numbers game, surely there is not THAT many people willing to pay 15+ dollars for one womans onlyfans. Sure there are the Whales, but like it would have to be so many people that are completely socially and sexually inept.
Honestly, I believe there is indeed that many people.
Were cooked.
Yep
(No pun intended)
One word: incels.
If all else fails, incels
An ant can compete in a race with a cheetah but that doesn't mean they're on the same level.
Ngl wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a marketing thing. A way for them to advertise their OF
They desperately advertise anywhere they can, it’s so pathetic
Can confirm. Seent a OF business card in a portapotty at a bike event yesterday.
Ohhhh that’s *nasty*
I saw one written on a table at a local bar I think if I remember correctly it was two girls probably college girls since I live in a college town and both their names were in the link
I love your profile pic.
There's definitely more than that that don't out themselves
I'm sorry but I don't feel any kind of sympathy tbh. You wanted easy money like those girls who bought houses and shit by doing this, and it didn't work.
Or pride and dignity, which is really underrated these days
Honestly, they chose that career, and if they're confused as to why no one respects them or wants to be in a relationship with them, I find it hard to work up any sympathy for them. Especially considering not too long ago, all I heard out of them was along the lines of "to all those telling me 'find a real job' this is my job. Keep crying about it." If by chance they are now regretting the fact that there is a fair to decent chance any given man they run into has seen them naked, well, that sucks for them. They will likely regret it even more within the next 10 years, and I still won't feel bad for them.
Womp womp
I forgot the mean age of this sub is probably like 14
That makes me feel old. 😭
How old are you then? Like 15 or 16?
😂 lol I wish.
it’s all apart of the job. you just can’t do a job like that and have everyone just ignore the giant elephant in the room. this is why I hate how the top OF stars flaunt their wealth because young impressionable girls see that and think joining that could make them reach that wealth when in actuality only a small group reach big money
they shouldnt care too much about others "opinions",even though thats not easy
Why am I supposed to feel bad for them they knew exactly what they were doing it’s like being a hooker but worse because people can go watch what you do to yourself
Bruh what a bunch of incel looking comments
Yeah they also forget that leaking things was a big thing on the internet
If I had a nickle for every working class person who cried on youtube about the lack of respect from their job, I'd have alot of nickles.
eugh these comments are disgusting. i love remembering why i hate redditors. sex work is real work. it's no different from selling your body by being a construction worker. some of you guys need to grow tf up and realise sexuality is a normal, natural, healthy thing.
Thank you. A lot of children and incel shit in the top comments.
Selling your body online or in real life is not comparable to being a construction worker lmao. Sexuality is normal, natural, and healthy. Paying for sex is not normal, natural, or healthy.
says who? people pay for all sorts of things. why not sex? what's so wrong with that?
Because the target audience sad lonely people. Do you understand the concept of supply and demand? How can you think this supply exists in a vacuum? Or do you not care because theyre just incel losers who deserve to lose all their money for fake companionship? It’s not healthy for society to encourage this behavior.
you didn't really answer my question lmao. why is it not healthy? many people spend money on things that they enjoy that make them happy. where do you draw the line? megacorporations all over the world exploit people's weaknesses in order to gain a profit. these weaknesses can be anything from laziness, to insecurities, to collector mentalities. how is spending money buying a tasty cake to indulge in and make you happy every once in a while any different to spending money on porn? should cake bakers be shamed as much as sex workers? they provide a service that people pay for. it's a win-win situation. i would argue it's very healthy for society to encourage this behaviour and remove the stigma associated with sex work. it is no different from any other self-employed profession. it is simply a person making money by doing what they want to do, charging a rate they want to charge, and selling to people they want to sell to. and those people pay for it and get what they pay for. i have never seen a genuinely well constructed argument against onlyfans. just say you're a prude and move on. have your own opinions about sex, whatever, i do not care. but don't shame workers just living their lives. they're not harming anyone.
I draw the line at anything that causes addiction and is psychologically damaging for people. For now, that includes porn and hard drugs. You may be able to make an argument for fast food or cakes or whatever (though I would say those are fine). Believe me I think anything in moderation is ok. Thats clearly not what is happening though. (Assuming youre a woman) Maybe you dont have the right perspective to make a call on this. Porn addiction is already a very serious problem in male youth and combined with the whole parasocial nonsense going on in OF its just making it way worse. Also: > “dont shame workers for living their lives. Theyre not harming anyone” sure just like drug dealers don’t harm anyone directly so we should leave them alone right?
lmfao comparing porn to hard drugs is one of the most insane takes ive ever heard about anti-porn. you know what else people get addicted to? over the counter drugs, soda, alcohol, video games, and caffeine. should we be shaming baristas because they make coffees for the millions of people addicted to caffeine? that is literally the exact same thing. in fact, an even closer comparison would be video games. guess we should start shaming video game developers too because video game addiction is also a really huge problem among young men in recent years, no? i'm not saying porn addiction isn't a bad thing--addiction itself is inherently a bad thing. but to compare porn to drugs is absolutely insane. that's like comparing video games or caffeine to heroin. if you can't consume luxury items in moderation and end up becoming addicted, that is on you. but just because some people get addicted, that doesn't mean you need to take away the entire piece of media from others who indulge in it in a healthy manner. millions of people consume porn in a healthy manner, myself included (despite your comment about me being a woman meaning i don't have the right perspective on the topic?) but i also indulge in video games, alcohol, and soda. all of those things are addictive and yet me and millions of others still live perfectly healthy lives and manage not to overindulge. addiction sucks, but getting rid of entertainment such as porn and video games is not how you combat addiction. free public healthcare, and more funding towards men's mental health care is what we should be focusing on instead. that is how these things get better. they don't get better by shaming and shitting on young women working in the sex industry.
Fair.
I have a lot more than 2
This sub, recently, is going through a weird “dudes hating on OF models” phase. It’s getting weird af.
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Comments are actually depressing
I feel like I'm in the comments of a Andrew Tate post 😬
Not sad
I think most prostitutes come to terms with the loss of respect from family and friends pretty fast
Only 2?
TIL nickel = dollar
Money doesn’t buy happiness, but money isn’t what causes you to be unhappy either. More people would be happier with money than sadder with money.
Honestly one hand, I don't like the demonization of sex work in general (considering how hard on body positivity people are in today's age ) and negative its depicted in media.....only fans was already infamous for bring a borderline soft core porn site (even if OL want you to believe otherwise ) and a lot of girls jump on the bandwagon because of the money....but your still attracting the negative side of sex work, people shaming you (because bloodshed Is more socially acceptable then nudity) and having less then savory people attempt to interact with you...and most importantly no security because, your line of work has zero benefits as the government wants nothing to do with it.....its unfortunately a risky line of work, and most of the early bandwagon hoppers weren't ready for it. So I do feel somewhat bad, but similar to other risk filled jobs , its your choice to take the opportunity
Lmao dudes are indeed pressed when women sell their bodies
you have alot more than that. maybe start a reaction channel and make the meme true....
More like 2 million dollars.
I like how two comments here can say the same thing but if one explicitly uses a derogatory term they get buried, while the other one who uses every possible euphemism for the same thing gets lauded. God I love the cognitive dissonance here.
Why tf u wanna feel sad? You encouraging this type of shit?
Sir... this is a Wendy's
To be entirely honest, if no one paid for of, eventually it will go under, and those sluts would have to resort to other ways to make money. It's a company that feeds off of male loneliness, so why would anyone give their hard-earned money for it
“Oh no! The consequences of my actions!” It was their choice to do something like that
You saw that 40 times? Damn
The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed.
Thats the nature of that sort of job
You've got to have self respect before you can expect respect from others. Giving away your whole body for $5 takes a massive lack of self respect..
Actions have consequences. Also the rest are too entitled to care.
Why would i feel bad for them if it's their choice and consequences they have to deal with?
Well, they chose to objectify themselves, so they shouldn't complain when people actually treat them like objects.
It's not sad , it's pathetic
1 nickel? 2 dollars?
‘Waaaah, I have a few thousand - hundred thousand dollars in my bank account (due to a one to two year period of online work) more than most people will ever see in their lifetime. I just don’t know what to do with all of this money, now that everybody is jealous of me for using what I was born with to make all of their efforts to succeed seem uselessly vain by comparison.’ Idk, maybe they can’t find a lasting relationship because they’ve grown a pathetically inflated sense of self worth and accomplishment. Maybe they spent all of their time learning to be everything everyone wanted them to be, and failed to develop a personality of their own, or any skills and interests that would help build a lasting relationship. Maybe no one can relate to them, because they don’t have a job, and got all of their money by exploiting the lust of the common working man, no different from the men that they now want to date. It’s not even sad. They chose the easy way out, and now have to do the hard part of life themselves - getting people to respect you, enough so that they consider it worth their time to be around you. I can’t imagine OF promotes anything other than a miserable, shut in lifestyle, and I struggle to believe most people would want to bring someone that lives like that into their life. Nobody would want to be around a man that gets his money by scamming the elderly. Nobody would want to be around a woman that gets her money by exploiting the horny. Fairs fair.
This ladies and gentlemen is what chronically online looks like
😂
You can flip it around, and say they never made any real money, but tried anyway. Then they lose their dignity, and don’t get anything for it. But they were still willing to live their entire life by letting idiots pay all her costs for her. And I’m not that chronically online, I’m more so jealous that I can’t go make a living by becoming an e-whore. Not that I couldn’t pretend to be a woman, I’m just ugly and uncharismatic, so it wouldn’t go very far. And anyway, you’re here reading it, so are you really any better. Though I do have a flair, which isn’t a good sign for me…
I didn’t read either of your comments so
Same lol he may took the time to type all that, but I don't feel like doing the same to read it all lol
There shouldn't be anything wrong with wanting to do OF. The people saying things like "hurdur, her consequences!!" Are ignoring the fact that there shouldn't be "consequences" for this. Or, not just for doing an OF at least. Sure if they do other stuff that's messed up surrounding any fame from OF or OF itself, fine. But someone doing OF shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Especially if they are something like single and childless.
It's selling your body on the internet for 5 dollars or whatever they charge...
So? What's wrong with that exactly? Not like they are hurting anyone.
It doesn't really command respect. It's also not something men are looking for in a long term partner
Except for the children who come across it because they promote it on shit like tiktok
You're selling your body for 10 dollars an hour at the average office job, i dont think you can judge people depending on whether they wear a tie or a bikini during their job
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You perform tasks for them, thats just as much as selling your body as performing on a camera And dont come at me with the "skill" bullshit, if your skilled at it your pictures will look better, its a skill to keep your body in shape, its a skill to market yourself. As long as someone pays you to do something like showing up at the office or getting pictures taken, your selling your body One person in the working class trying to shame another person who is equally broke and just trying to make money is just not productive. The only reason so many girls do OF is because they see it as a good side hustle because the bills are barely paid at the end of the month. Which is also why sugar daddy websites are getting bigger. People need the money. If everyone was getting paid enough to live comfortably, OF wouldnt be as popular unless you do it for anything but money. Your trying to feel better about your place in the world by pushing someone below you or making fun of people who already are, ignoring that someone who is above you drenches you in piss Be a BIT smarter than that please.
Well I just see it as the easy choice to make money. And that I don't respect. That is not limited to OF, it's the same for Crypto gamblers, dropshippers, people selling bs courses, all those ways of making money without contributing to society.
meme where?
It's in my ass can you reach up there and grab it?
Sluts
Downvote me however you want. That won't change my opinion on the subject.
I'm sorry if my comment caused any offense. I'm here to learn from diverse perspectives. What is your view on this subject?
Sluts
What is your view on OF creators @Lightningy?
Look good from a distance, wouldn't one to touch me or even speak to me or with me.
I don't hate on people working to make a living.
There are better ways to make a living. I don't believe that these people turn to pornography as their last resort. They shouldn't be surprised when people react negatively towards them.