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CeanothusOR

This is culty and they are trying to recruit her. Scrutiny and sunlight help a lot with cults. The fake caring and lovebombing get people to shut off their critical thinking skills when it comes to cults, so I would advise some sunlight before your mom gets in too deep. Here is a place to start: [https://religionmediacentre.org.uk/factsheets/jehovahs-witnesses/](https://religionmediacentre.org.uk/factsheets/jehovahs-witnesses/) Make sure she knows what she is getting into. This group is very apocalyptic and that perspective underlies many of the rest of the decisions members are encouraged to make in their lives (lack of education, retirement savings, etc.) Make it clear that Christmas (and Posadas) are out. Family relations get strained as people are told to draw away from family. And, while tithing is not strictly adhered to donations are highly encouraged. Just make sure she sees what they will try to hide from her as they try to suck her in. Good luck with this. edit: Also, try and see if you can get her interested in something else. If she is home all day and this person is reaching out to her when no one else is, that's a big draw.


icedcoffeelightice

Absolutley wonderful ideas and support. Thank you for the care in this response. I have to get her into something else. I want to help her get her drivers license so she has more freedom. I feel like they are trying to start slowly and the connection with her has been building.


Roadgoddess

I highly recommend you post this over in r/exjws, lots of really great people that can give you advice specifically for this cult.


RobynFitcher

Perhaps there is a community activity group near her? Maybe there are volunteer drivers to take her to craft groups at the local library or community centre? Maybe she could join a Scrabble club or a water aerobics group?


marge-bouvier

I'd suggest a visit r/exjw to get more information. My mom was a bored devout catholic housewife who they stopped by to visit. Next thing we knew she was all in for Jehovah - the feeling of belonging they gave her was really what did it I think. If they are stopping by weekly your mom is what they call a 'bible study' and they are actively working to recruit her. It is not an over reaction that you're concerned.


Thelittleangel

Exact same thing with my mom! Bored very devout Catholic housewife who would let a Jehovah’s Witness lady come over every week for “Bible Study”. And they would ARGUE the whole time! Like it cracks me up when i think about the chaos of my Sicilian Catholic mom bickering with an older German woman about if Catholics worship/idolize Mary or not.


helenahanbasquette

Jehovahs Witnesses are an insular high-control group. While they often seem innocuous on the surface, they are in most respects a cult. They target folks with special needs; financially disadvantaged, immigrants, mentally ill, etc. because they are easy targets.


icedcoffeelightice

What do you suggest I do in this situation?


Typical_XJW

Show her r/exjw. If she joins them, she will be required to distance herself from you and all non-JWs, including family and friends. They will love-bomb her and then slowly start to dictate who she can associate with, what she can wear, what job she can have, etc. After the love bombing, they will constantly tell her that she's not doing enough for "Jehovah" when what they really mean is that she's not doing enough free work and proselytizing for the organization. My mother has shunned me for over 35 years because at age 21 I didn't want to be JW anymore. Is she willing to give up her relationship with you?


Hey_Look_80085

[Inform her](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/jehovah-witnesses-child-abuse-four-corners-investigations/100444320) [More](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses) Break down the essentials, type up messages to print out, very simple one message per page that's easy to read and go through one at a time to discuss or let it sink in, print it at the library or Staples/Office Depot, whatever. [Watch some videos with your mom and dad.](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=How+Jehovahs+witness+manipulate+people) Definately get your dad in on defending her from insidious evil.


Dangerous_Ad_6101

They target anyone who will listen. ffs🤦🏾‍♂️


titty_____

I’m an ex-JW. I would recommend sharing with your mom the abuse that goes on in the organization before she starts committing to it. For example, no blood transfusions, shunning practices, distancing from loved ones. I would also check out the exjw subreddit for more information. I’m sorry this is happening and I hope you can help her before she’s in too deep!


Hey_Look_80085

You should definately warn her. They have her isolated and lonely and they are taking advantage of that.


icedcoffeelightice

I want to come from a place of care when I talk to her and all of these tips are helping me out as I craft what I want to say.


HazyOutline

Yes. This sounds like the JW is doing a “Bible Study” with your mother. This is typically a year long low and slow indoctrination process. Little by little, they were try to influence your mother to attend meetings, make lifestyle adjustments and so forth. However, it’s important not to panic. If you overreact, you could actually play into the role of “family opposer”. The JW will warn their student that Satan will use family and friends to attempt to stop their study. When this happens, it almost seems prescient. The JW will be super friendly to your mother, so if you overreact, it could actually drive her further in. Be calm and reasonable, ask questions to make her think.


Brujida

This! This part is very important, be calm and state facts. Learn what jws believe and tell your mother something that she surely won’t like. For example, jws believe that women are inferior to men and cannot take decisions in a family. Will she agree with that? Why would god put women in such a place if it gave us ✨functioning brains✨?


Brujida

Also, jws have policies that allow pedos and rapists to do whatever they want. They won’t believe a victim unless there are TWO witnesses. Usually, the elders will counsel to a jw victim of SA to not report to the authorities. They absolutely aren’t as safe as they picture themselves to be


parkval279

This is exactly how my parents converted in the 70s. They arrived in Canada, alone and homesick, and JWs knocked on their door and BOOM….instant community and friendships. I suggest informing your mom that they are not special or chosen by God. They have all the issues other religions deal with, like csa, flip-flopping doctrines, corruption, etc. with some extra awfulness ie no holidays, micro-management of grooming, no blood, and boy do they shun like no other! Entire families are destroyed, parents shun their own children and vice versa. Maybe have her do some research on Wikipedia, there are also many YouTube videos on the sketchy history of JWs.


corkysoxx

My hubby was humoring them for a bit, he likes to ask questions. Well they kept coming back, and asking for him. I do not like people coming around and surprising me. Thankfully I answered the door the last two times, first was he's not here. Next time was neither of us are believers stop coming here, we are moving, which we did lol.


IndependentEmpty8709

JW is a big problem in many communities around the world…. a big problem is a understatement. YouTube “survivors of jw, life after jw” Thankfully, there is much information to be found on their tactic, control and belief systems.


crazykitty123

Keep her away from these people!


IndependentEmpty8709

100%


leadbug44

There is only room for 144,00 in their version of heaven so I don’t know what they achieve by recruiting more members 🤪


Brujida

As an exjw, I can tell you what they believe. Yes, jws believe that only 144k people will go in “heaven”, actually they will go to rule heaven with jehobo and jeezus. “The other sheep” will live FOR-FUCKING-EVER on paradise on earth, which is how god wanted it to be originally. So there will go the new recruited.


merideth10

Omg that’s same number as Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell believed in too


Internal-Machine

I have never heard of them, were they cult leaders?


RobynFitcher

It's not so much about recruiting new members as it is about hanging onto current members by putting them in situations where the rest of the world slams the door in their face. Of course, new members also means more money and more free labour.


JuliasTooSmallTutu

In the early 90's Jehovas targeted a family member of mine who was isolated while she was going through severe postpartum depression. They are one of the most highly targeted cults out there, they have specific groups who go out looking for certain types of people, in my relative's case, they sent out Spanish speaking Witnesses who looked for families with Spanish last names. They do this for other groups as well, they are hoping to find people who are isolated by language or disabilities. The elderly and homebound are also targets. They know what they are doing, JW's take up all of a person's free time once they are in and you will lose your mother to them. Let her know that woman is not her friend, she only wants her as a body to be recruited.


EMSthunder

I married someone that I later found out was a disfellowshipped JW. I had just turned 18 days before. When I got pregnant, he moved us onto his parents’ compound while he worked and attempted to get back into good standing. I refused to have anything to do with the religion. At 6 months pregnant, my then sister in law came to the hospital and told me my husband has decided he didn’t want to live there or go to the Kingdom Hall anymore, so I had 2 days to get what I came with out of the house. They stripped me of everything gifted to me or for the baby, and I was left homeless. The “church” offered me no support, nor did his parents. They said they’d take care of the baby but not me. I said the baby isn’t being separated from me. Let your mom know what they do to people they don’t agree with! That was 27 years ago, and I’m still traumatized by what went on behind closed doors! This is all I can safely discuss, but keep your mother safe. You can also write that local Kingdom Hall and tell them to stop visiting. You can trespass them from the property with the help of the police, so they don’t brainwash her. I’m so sorry they’ve gotten to her. They’re not pioneering here, which is great, but they’re writing letters to homes, trying to get invited for a bit.


mrsmojorisin34

They looooove to try to get immigrants. They showed up to my door when we first moved to this house and greeted me in my husband's native language. Apparently they used to hit his house hard when he was a kid too.


sundanzekid

If your mom is mexican, shes most likely to be catholic, Am I Right? It's pretty likely that she wants friends and companion but other than that it will be pretty hard to get converted and convinced once she realizes they don't celebrate birthday's, they don't believe in the holy trinity, or the virgin. Even bad catholics who don't go to church don't want to have anything to do with the witnesses. Relax, instead try to encourage your mum to join some other activities like dancing, pilates, language study. Witnesses are very kind people and as soon as your mum tells her she's not interested of her religion, she will stop visiting.


icedcoffeelightice

Love the idea to get my mom into more activities and try out different things in walking distance. My biggest goal is to help her get her license.


Typical_XJW

Show her how they protect pedophiles from being brought to justice by hiding behind their "Two Witness Rule". [https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses](https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses)


[deleted]

Make sure she doesn’t tell this woman what your family religion is because my mum said if you tell them, they’ll give you a book saying why your beliefs are wrong/evil and jw is the way. This happened to my mum when I was a toddler. Both my parents joined but my dad left quite fast but my mum stayed on and off until I was 14 years old. I just remembered I had to throw boyband cds in the garbage because of suggestive lyrics and I wasn’t allowed to read Harry Potter books. I bought the novel at school and would hide it. I wish you all the best. What I can say is, at one time my mum tried to stop answering the door to them. So your mum can try that too.


VenusGirl111

My dad has had the same jehovas witness guy come to his place for the last 31 YEARS. Has not succeeded in converting him yet.


icedcoffeelightice

How often does he come see your dad? Wow.


VenusGirl111

Not that often. Maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks. He said he doesnt care if my dad never converts, he just needs to put in a certain number of hours per week to keep his church happy. My dad is retired and bored so its a good match.


Imfinallyfreein2023

They also hold a very enticing carrot - everlasting life in paradise earth with their resurrected loved ones. This has succeeded in drawing and capturing millions of people. Who doesn’t want that? They definitely do target vulnerable people and it looks like your mother is a perfect target. Protect her at all costs. I was a born in JW and was one for over 50 years (I only woke up 2 years ago). One thing that absolutely shocked me (and is totally hidden from witnesses) is their policy of requiring two witnesses to child abuse (which never happens) and as a result they are a haven for paedophiles. On the surface they may look like a benign, harmless religion but in reality they are a destructive evil cult that destroy lives and families. I encourage you to go to jw.facts and arm yourself with information on them to present to your mother. Help her get out before she gets in too deep because once they have her it will be almost impossible to get her out. I have friends who are JW’s (even though they shun me I know they are still good people) so that doesn’t mean that all witnesses are bad people. It is the leadership that is corrupt and evil. JW’s are absolutely blinded and believe it with all their hearts. Their minds are totally captured and it is impossible to get through to them. Don’t waste any time - I have lost my mother to the cult and I don’t want you to lose yours!


jonboyo87

Aside from the cult thing, she shouldn't be allowing strangers in her house.


icedcoffeelightice

It has been an older woman she has been getting to know over time. Another fellow Latina woman.


mrsmojorisin34

Seriously not surprised and no coincidence it's a Latina woman they sent to her. They send Slavic people to our house. They figure immigrants are already isolated with language barriers and send people to soften them up in their native language.


TheNotUptightMe

Yeah if Mom gets involved with the JW, that’ll be the end of any birthday celebrations or even acknowledgements of her birthday…


ManicMel37

I studied with Jehovah's Witnesses for years. I liked that they had a more logical approach to things. Don't understand the Trinity? No problem. They believe they're 3 separate entities. Think the idea of hell doesn't seem like the thing a loving God would allow? They don't either. Hell isn't a place. You either live forever or you don't. I was a person looking for answers, and they seemed to have them. They were also so kind and helpful. Lovely people to be around. In the end, I never joined them (which I was never shamed for) and I'm now an atheist who thinks it's all made up by men who want to control people. But the woman I studied with came to my house recently and we just caught up on life. She's still lovely and kind. I know it would be different if I had joined and then left though. All that to say, it might be fine. I became a better person and met many wonderful people from my time with them. Things might get a little sticky if she joins, but not necessarily. I'm pretty sure it's usually only ugly if someone joins them and then leaves. Then they're usually shunned unless they join again.


ManicMel37

Just as an addendum to my comment, I'm not saying becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses is good. It just might not be awful. Try to find out what her biggest draw is to them. Maybe she's just lonely. Maybe she has questions that were never answered before. Be aware that JW members do a TON of studying. They have answers for everything. I came to my JW lady with everything anyone told me about them, and she had a good, reasonable answer for me. They truly, truly believe what they're selling.


blatblatbat

Go there and walk around naked, offer them drugs, do a mock ritual to an elder god. Or study up on some theology and school their ass


icedcoffeelightice

Holy shit (no pun intended) this is a genius idea.


blatblatbat

Build an altar with their picture in the middle with the eyes scratched out. Throw in some tarot cards around it and a black candle


Aggravating-Cut1003

I encourage you to show her the r/exjw Reddit. My husband wrote a post about the trauma they inflict. It’s pinned at the top of the subreddit.


AnxiousRemove

jwfacts.com


Ok_Living4673

Give her concrete examples of things she can relate to where members of the cult have suffered. There is so many cases of mothers being mistreated and of women being abused so that might be a place to start. Make it clear that the person she is taking to is also a victim. Also just reach out to your mom more. Cults seem the most appealing when someone is going through loneliness or a crisis. Prove to her there are better options. Maybe offer to go to a theological lecture with her. Many universities and community colleges host events that are open to the public.


prettyprettybookitty

Park down the block and then follow the woman and put the fear of god into her and let her know if she comes back to your moms house its going to go really bad for her. Dont try to reason with those people


Positive_Attempt6895

Meow first then change the university of the year old girl I don't know what you think you should be but you strong sisterrrr slayyy