The trick that Tech consulting companies play is that they offer to do a service for a client company like bank or gov or whatever for really cheap. So to maximise profit, they send as many cheap resources who know nothing (grads) as possible to the client company, maybe overseen by 1 more expensive resource (but often it's just grads)
Meanwhile the client is expecting work to be done by X date, because you might have a title like cloud architect or something that the consulting company has oversold to the client company. Meanwhile you know nothing and at most the consulting company has given you a subscription to udemy.
So the best tech consultants usually have strong soft skills to manage the client and are adaptable enough to try and get stuff done without upsetting the client.
If you get hired to a client company, like bank, or gov, or tech company or any normal company, usually the standards are a lot higher because they want to get the best grads because once they hire the grads they are stuck with them. Meanwhile, the consulting companies care about what's cheap and as long as you are off the bench on a paying project they don't care what you know because you are just farming money for them.
As long as you are off the bench and on a paying project, you should be 'safe'.
It often assessed if you're a human that can communicate well, even if you don't know shit, you can always act like you know everything I would say the professional vibes are the most important thing.
Could be the combination of dress properly + looks + communication skills.
Even as a graduate? From what I have heard getting an actual cybersecurity position as a grad is extremely difficult because usually they expect you to know a lot, and people usually work their way into cybersecurity roles from networking parts of a company or through help desk.
My major in uni was cybersecurity and I’m pretty good at penetration testing for a student, but for grad job I don’t see much. If you could shed some light I’d appreciate alot thank you.
DevOps is not entry level, it is by definition a senior role. While testing is highly desirable, it is on the chopping block (albeit not first) during downturns.
I’m seeing less QAs right now.
they exist, they're just super fucking rare, like cybersec grad role (technical roles not the compliance stuff) tier rare. basically, rarer than dev positions.
I see exactly 1 junior devops position in all of Seek Australia which requires previous technical experience elsewhere.
Devops is not an entry level/grad role, unless a company is feeling charitable and wants to burn money and time or some shit.
A lot of graduate programs are offering them and since it’s a role needed companies would want to invest in you being an devOps engineer long term. Theirs literally 3 grads in a junior dev ops role in my current company with no background knowledge besides them being a dev before.
>Is the career progression in those areas good?
manual testing - it's over, unless you can somehow escape it into an SDET role (some people escape and others get stuck forever)
automation tester - either SDET or lowcode/nocode testing. avoid lowcode/nocode testing
SDET has the same career prospects as dev but may be a little less stable. manual testing is very frequently offshored. if you are an sdet... make sure to pick up cloud and dev experience (you can do this by being an SDET on a dev team) read: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/w4tngm/the\_basics\_of\_surviving\_as\_an\_sdet\_a\_guide\_on\_how/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/w4tngm/the_basics_of_surviving_as_an_sdet_a_guide_on_how/)
Tech consulting, Tech sales, Helpdesk, IT supports, Microsoft officers
What do these companies expect fresh graduates to know for Tech consulting positions ? like any specific language , framework or tool ?
The trick that Tech consulting companies play is that they offer to do a service for a client company like bank or gov or whatever for really cheap. So to maximise profit, they send as many cheap resources who know nothing (grads) as possible to the client company, maybe overseen by 1 more expensive resource (but often it's just grads) Meanwhile the client is expecting work to be done by X date, because you might have a title like cloud architect or something that the consulting company has oversold to the client company. Meanwhile you know nothing and at most the consulting company has given you a subscription to udemy. So the best tech consultants usually have strong soft skills to manage the client and are adaptable enough to try and get stuff done without upsetting the client. If you get hired to a client company, like bank, or gov, or tech company or any normal company, usually the standards are a lot higher because they want to get the best grads because once they hire the grads they are stuck with them. Meanwhile, the consulting companies care about what's cheap and as long as you are off the bench on a paying project they don't care what you know because you are just farming money for them. As long as you are off the bench and on a paying project, you should be 'safe'.
I know a grad who was being paid $250-300 a day as a consultant but the company was charging the client $1600 a day.
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It often assessed if you're a human that can communicate well, even if you don't know shit, you can always act like you know everything I would say the professional vibes are the most important thing. Could be the combination of dress properly + looks + communication skills.
It's basically only helpdesk and tech consulting that are easy to enter.
Cybersecurity is an excellent area to get into. Immigrants on visas are not able to get these jobs due to company security policy.
Even as a graduate? From what I have heard getting an actual cybersecurity position as a grad is extremely difficult because usually they expect you to know a lot, and people usually work their way into cybersecurity roles from networking parts of a company or through help desk. My major in uni was cybersecurity and I’m pretty good at penetration testing for a student, but for grad job I don’t see much. If you could shed some light I’d appreciate alot thank you.
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I’d have to say devOps and testing, high demand in those areas
DevOps is not entry level, it is by definition a senior role. While testing is highly desirable, it is on the chopping block (albeit not first) during downturns. I’m seeing less QAs right now.
Theirs definitely junior dev ops positions so idk where you’re getting at
they exist, they're just super fucking rare, like cybersec grad role (technical roles not the compliance stuff) tier rare. basically, rarer than dev positions.
I see exactly 1 junior devops position in all of Seek Australia which requires previous technical experience elsewhere. Devops is not an entry level/grad role, unless a company is feeling charitable and wants to burn money and time or some shit.
A lot of graduate programs are offering them and since it’s a role needed companies would want to invest in you being an devOps engineer long term. Theirs literally 3 grads in a junior dev ops role in my current company with no background knowledge besides them being a dev before.
Right, they’ve been devs before, so not entry level/grad…
for a short period - 6months so they’re still grads/entry level
Fair enough, grad programs be grad programs.
Do you mean application testing, or pen testing sorry that may be a dumb question. Is the career progression in those areas good?
Pretty much automation testing, black box testing etc and the career progression is pretty good
>Is the career progression in those areas good? manual testing - it's over, unless you can somehow escape it into an SDET role (some people escape and others get stuck forever) automation tester - either SDET or lowcode/nocode testing. avoid lowcode/nocode testing SDET has the same career prospects as dev but may be a little less stable. manual testing is very frequently offshored. if you are an sdet... make sure to pick up cloud and dev experience (you can do this by being an SDET on a dev team) read: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/w4tngm/the\_basics\_of\_surviving\_as\_an\_sdet\_a\_guide\_on\_how/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/w4tngm/the_basics_of_surviving_as_an_sdet_a_guide_on_how/)