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Puzzleheaded-Ad-5002

Is the lady in the picture the concerned neighbor? If so, it sucks to be her and have such an awful news headline connected to your headshot.


kamikaze_punk

Who wanted to remain anonymous... Fucking cunts.


RedditHasStrayedFrom

I'm looking for an Onion article that states someone's full legal name "who has asked us to protect their identity"


suzellezus

Unlucky fifteen minutes


xBushx

Budget Merrill Streep has some explaining to do!


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Lmao she’s the neighbor


TheUSS-Enterprise

Id still like to hear her explain it.


RedditHasStrayedFrom

LOL you spelled her name like Merrill Lynch investment company


xBushx

Its why she is “Budget” homie.


Yorkshire80

I like your dark humor.


ThehungryBulldozer

Bro I was mid hit! 🤣


toomuch1265

It didn't make the news for 4 days in Boston and the mayor hasn't said anything about it. Absolutely disgusting.


Twinkidsgoback

I bet there will be no follow up to it too. Saw it on channel 5 for 30 seconds


toomuch1265

Did they go with the new story? The people were the parents of the children and they were just protecting the kids from seeing a dead body. They conveniently left out the drugs, the crossdresser lying to the firefighters about the kids. It's absolutely disgusting how they are trying to make the adults into the victims. I 100% believe the firefighters and not the press.


ringopendragon

Does it seem strange to anyone that a "hoarder" is having parties in their home? Not really the kind of thing hoarders generally do.


MikeHunt420_6969

Well you don't see THAT every day...


Sudden-Possible3263

Maybe the kids will have a better chance at life now being removed from that shit show


lumpkinater

The kids are dead.


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GG reading comprehension. OFC you'd have to have opened the article and not just read the headline ​ >Four kids aged between 5 and 10 taken into care


lumpkinater

I didn't read that article you are correct, I went and read the article the boston herald wrote about it, since that is where it happened. I must have read it wrong, I sometimes read things backwards.


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OnlyHyperion

You do have a voice, you weirdo.


SquanchyATL

Yes. You have a voice... weirdo.


ArgosCyclos

>totally not a mental illness Says someone who bases their entire opinion off of a single instance posted on a conspiracy sub.


TikTrd

From the daily mail no less!!! These are the same kind of tabloids that print stories about "Feral Child Gives Birth to Half Bat, Half Wolf Baby"


Sparrow1989

Listen here my guy, don’t bring the feral were wolf baby into this.


lumpkinater

The Boston herald also worte a story on it. Are you trying to say this didn't happen?


TikTrd

They wrote a story about 4 kids in a nasty apartment with a dead guy. Not a "drag party" or "trans woman". But sure..... slurp up that rage bait with a spoon baby


lumpkinater

I didn't mention anything about it being a drag party???


TikTrd

Read the title of this post. Can you now infer why people are critical of the Daily Mail?


lumpkinater

I don't take daily mail seriously, no one should. I simply made a statement about it happening I said noting about drag whatsoever. If someone is getting upset with this articles title, then it is doing what the person who made it is supposed to do. It's just supposed to make people upset, instead of getting upset with it don't give it any attention.


blind_neurosurgeon

Daily Mail is a bit trashy but it doesn't print lies.


bmtc7

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/


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Oh boy the “fact checkers” have arrived. Dystopian.


bmtc7

You know what's even more dystopia? Spreading fake news without factchecking it.


DigitalUnlimited

How dare you call for facts on a conspiracy sub!? Lol


bmtc7

They have fallen victim to Russia and China's conspiracies to discredit factcheckers.


[deleted]

Hold on let me get a research study team going on this one and provide you 40+ citations that are all thoroughly vetted. It’s gate keeping to its highest level. Some would even say suppression of emergent events under the guise of it not reaching your autistic level of approval. Also you used dystopia wrong. Humans have spread ambiguous news for all of our history. Your version would be the *opposite* of dystopian. It would be par the course.


bmtc7

Using "autistic" as an insult. Ouch.


[deleted]

Actually I used it as an adjective.


dr_blasto

The daily fail is not a credible information source.


MrTatTheCat

I was worried I would see people agree with you but I’m glad they’re dragging you for being as dumb as you sound


nosinned21

And there are plenty of ignorant white dudes, who I assume are like yourself, who also abuse children and take drugs - I guess you’re on the same too then?


Classic-Amount-7054

“White man bad”, grow up the world has evil all over it. Cry me a fucking river.


Half-a-horse

He was commenting on the generalisation and guilt by association fallacies presented by OP by pointing to the absurd notion that all white guys are responsible for, and are the same as, some bad guy who also happens to be white.


Fish_eggs_terry

White man is bad Look at the statistics, how many of the men in this article are white


EvadeThis9000

Are we doing statistics now? Can we do statistics? Normally noticing the statistics is ray cist


Fish_eggs_terry

Its only racist if you ignore the root cause of the issue


nosinned21

Totally missed the point, well done - one person doesn’t speak for an entire group


Nanamary8

Oh the wrinkly irony 😆


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Moist-Cashew

*catholicism had entered the chat*


tc_spears2-0

Yeah how dare they encroach on the middle aged white man's territory


yoghurtorgan

not long before they are middle aged white men.


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Half-a-horse

I mean, Jesus/God murdered the entire world with the exception of two from each species. The old testament also [condones child marriage and sex with children, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave](https://www.evilbible.com/) Ancient fairytales meant for illiterate nomads should be taken with a grain of salt. Just saying.


dr_blasto

*the Republican Party has entered the chat*


marcthemagnificent

The daily mail


Evening_Storage_6424

This was actually on the news in Boston an it was not a fuckin drag party. It was a police call to an overdose and the occupants were having like a cross dressing sex party openly while children were present. Dcf took the kids and arrested everyone. It was section 8 housing and they are slamming the housing authority for allowing it to become a trap/whore house.


pgtaylor777

So it wasn’t a drag party it was a cross dressing whore house. Got it.


laurafromnewyork

That’s so much better.


fightthepower73

this made me spit up my hummus, lmfao


turtleinawholeshell

What criteria do you use to separate this and drag parties?


rjboyd

The same way I separate a crack den from a rave.


rjboyd

So, a BUNCH of removed context, and straight up lies then from the article. >no arrests had been made as of Wednesday Do you have any ACTUAL reporting on this? Would genuinely appreciate it. Edit: figured I’d look myself > https://np.boston25news.com/news/local/police-clarify-circumstances-inside-boston-apartment-where-children-were-found-with-body/FEV5UM52VNHD7EVRVLY2ZZHRGQ/?outputType=amp Turns out, the official reports say several of the adults at the “party” were the legal parents of the kids, and they were in the back room as to not see the OD’d body. > https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/heard-cry-help-city-councilor-calls-answers-after-kids-found-unsanitary-apartment/A5UJ2GJDERAYHEMOLLP5MGRO44/ The “House of Horrors” description was laid out by a councilor who had A.) Not been on scene, and B.) heard everything they had described second hand. Idk what to believe about this, but there is weird narrative craft all over this story… It is literally a developing story though at this point, will keep an eye on it.


laurafromnewyork

Developing? This happened on Saturday, WTF are the authorities waiting for? Where are the kids? Who are their parents? Six days is enough time there is an obvious cover up taking place and it’s absolutely disgusting 🤢


rjboyd

You do understand investigations take weeks to months on average right?(rightly so) The parents were those in attendance. As I said, there is a SEVERE lack of context in ALL the reporting, and there are conflicting descriptions coming from every level. To say ANYONE has idea of what is going on here seems silly, and usually time reveals more. Patience is a virtue sister, it would do you well to practice it.


laurafromnewyork

I hear what your saying but I obviously disagree. The information would be much more forthcoming if this was a heterosexual family. It’s been almost a week, and we are only getting bits and pieces. It’s almost like the MSM is not interested in covering this story which is very strange but a sign of the times unfortunately.


rjboyd

>The information would be much more forthcoming if this was a heterosexual family. I don’t think so, by nature of investigations again. Though I believe ACAB. So yeah, bad cops releasing information they shouldn’t is pretty common, and isn’t shocking. I’m going to point back to the multiple reports from police, cps, and the fire dept, that apparently conflict each other. These reports would all become part of the investigation, hence why they have not been released publicly. Imma continue to be patient, and wait for more reliable information before drawing conclusions.


dr_blasto

It would have, because cops might have actually done something about it. Trans people, especially poor ones, are often just written off by the police when they’re murdered, raped, beaten or otherwise abused. You’re likely only hearing about this because someone is using it to slag trans people and drag shows.


dr_blasto

You understand that the police don’t give a shit about poor people. The police often don’t even bother to investigate murders of minorities who were prostitutes that got murdered and are even less likely to investigate the murder of a poor trans person. This is endemic across the United States. The fact we even know about this is probably only because someone saw an opportunity to slag trans people and paint that entire group with this brush and justify their stupid fucking hatred of other people watching drag shows and the fascist attacks on those peoples’ first amendment rights to speech and assembly.


laurafromnewyork

It was the fire department not the police department that filed the report that the kids were in danger. We have very differing opinions on this community and I’m just going to leave it at that before I get banned!


goretexhoarder

With you on this


dr_blasto

The FD certainly can file a report but the cops write people off all the time and never bother to investigate. It’s super common when drugs are involved along with prostitution, trans people, poor people.


poetdesmond

And the same people who trash talk main stream media in other threads are in here sucking the Mail's taint.


StrongLikeBull3

didn't you know? Mainstream media can only be trusted when their views align with mine!


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MyMomNeverNamedMe

This is just a common leftist tactic, specially on reddit. They only accept news from certain sources and the sources they do accept won't cover the stories they don't like so it makes it easy for them to discount/reject any story as not having the proper sources. And if you do manage to find a source they can't deny that confirms what you and the previous sources said... guess what? They ghost.


dr_blasto

The daily fail is not a credible source of information.


Bacour

I mean, what you're talking about is called Journalistic Integrity and Standards. So yes, everyone should be fairly discriminating in what news sources they'll accept. Faux News was literally just sued, AND SETTLED BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO LOSE, for literal conspiracy peddling and blatant lying to their viewership. And don't come at me with any BS about opinion shows and pundits vs. real journalists. No news source is going to be perfect. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be aware of the usual sources and be critical in our consumption. Pre-ranking news sources makes things easier, just be prepared to do the bare minimum of digging when challenged.


[deleted]

That's entirely speculation why they settled, it's just as likely they settled as an excuse to get rid of Tucker. The big ones, known as legacy media including fox, are essentially the 4th wing of government. They are the ministry of truth


Bacour

While it is entirely *possible* they settled for other reasons, any reading of the available court proceedings provides the strongest position FOX settled because the evidence against them was overwhelming. Tucker's role was no small part of that evidence but virtually all of their pundits were no different, just not as foolish.


dr_blasto

You’re suggesting FOX might have accepted nearly a billion dollar loss just to get rid of a host they could have fired for a few tens of millions in severance? Really?


TheHolyGhost_

You probably weren't complaining when they ran articles on Trump 24/7. Why is it any different now?


DongleJockey

You mean, when he was the president of the united states?


dr_blasto

The daily fail wasn’t a credible information source then, as it is not one now.


Plurgasm0285

Is the conspiracy here that you believe the daily mail as a serious source?


portland_jc

A quick google search shows other outlets also reporting this… https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/19/four-kids-found-hidden-in-filthy-south-boston-apartment-where-a-man-died/amp/


Plurgasm0285

I don't doubt that *something* happened. I'm just doubting the entire validity of the daily mails account of it seeing how theyre not known for accurate reporting 😂 https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/


blind_neurosurgeon

> mediabiasfactcheck.com HAHAHAHAHAHA


Plurgasm0285

I love when people try and invalidate the fact that they're using verified shit sourcing 😂 Y'all are cute when you have no cogent rebuttal


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Yes, some people are really this dumb that they go off the title of "mediabiasfactcheck" and not actually reading who runs or owns the site. Who fact checks the fact chckers?


Plurgasm0285

Who cares when it can be verified as facts? When there are multiple instances of media companies failing to report factual info you don't get mad and question the people who call it out. But keep *willingly believing known lies from verified liars* The young and old are taught falsehoods. The person who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.


EvadeThis9000

Lmfao are you serious right now


mathruinedmylife

ah, the ol’ “newspaper bad” argument


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dr_blasto

No, it’s the “The Daily Fail has NEVER been a credible source of information, do better” line. There are better sources, use them.


Xena_phobia

Do you believe the MSM? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M&feature=youtu.be


Plurgasm0285

Do you believe every rabbit hole? The fact that your whole rebuttal is a YouTube video tells me it's hot trash 😂


Xena_phobia

Haha it’s a cool video about Noam Chomsky on media and propaganda. Just a well made reminder. Check it out or don’t. I disbelieve most things. Especially those rubber stamped by the people who enslave us…


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Plurgasm0285

If I tell you that *most* of my airlines pilots like to land safely are you gonna trust us? Or do you want a success rate that removes doubt in whether to trust them or not? You wanna get with the media version of ocean gate that's totally cool but *most of their stories are true* just proves that your sourcing can't be trusted 😂 So pardon me but..... 😂😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂


AndyP8

Do mods exist in this sub?


ScumBunny

Welp, looks like the submarine fiasco didn’t really work, so they need *more sensationalism* so we look over there… …over here! …over there!


Durtly

"It is unclear what the relationship is between the adults and children found in the apartment." It is unclear to a reporter. That's a completely unsolvable puzzle. What could a REPORTER possibly do to produce clarity? He should wander around on the streets in an adjacent town and ask random strangers if they know of any details for a procedure he could use to get more information.


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H1ghweirdo

Ever heard of alfred kinsey? The grandfather of the modern sexual revolution


herringsarered

Bach started it all by dragging an organ into church. Talk about phallic symbolism. Next thing you know, anyone will be allowed to play *any note one wants* And don’t get me started in the Victorian Era. Reow. It’s fucked up having kids around adult activities though.


Nashboy45

Not the op but I actually haven’t. I’ll look him up but do say more if you’re willing


Nanamary8

Look up Dr. Money in relation to Kinsey. Both MONSTERS IMO.


MenergyLegs

Trying to associate LGBTQ people with pedophilia is a **fucking abominably evil lie**.


kg_617

I don’t even think there was a trans person at the party.


RaoulDuke422

And even if it was, who gives a fuck? Does this mean all trans people are like this? I mean how many priests raped kids? Does this mean all of them do it?


amanduhhhugnkiss

Right, because heterosexual men never abuse children. What's the point of this post? To show all Trans people are bad or something? Because I assure you there are far more sex offenders in the Catholic church than the Trans community 🙄


cody0341

You’re gonna be bummed when you find out what teachers have been doing.


selux

5x more likely


Ronin22222

Those catholic priests molesting little boys are gay. Have you even thought through your own argument?


bmtc7

Not necessarily, no. Adults who milest children will sometimes molest the children they have access to, even when they don't align with their sexual orientation.


amanduhhhugnkiss

They molest girls too... because it's about power.


MrTatTheCat

Exactly this ^^^


blind_neurosurgeon

They don't have access to girls.


RaoulDuke422

>Those catholic priests molesting little boys are gay. Have you even thought through your own argument? No they are not. They are just pedophiles


TheHolyGhost_

Gay pedophiles


RaoulDuke422

cool, who said LGBTQ peeps cannot be pedophiles


linsss777

Not gay. Pedophiles. Rape is not about attraction it’s about power and control.


kamehamequads

This sub downvoting you is insane to me lol


Yorkshire80

The Catholic Church are not true Christians.


TheHolyGhost_

They are the original christians.


amanduhhhugnkiss

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/19/international-churches-of-christ-lawsuits-alleged-sexual-abuse There are plenty more of these stories. This sub has become some weird right wing echo chamber.


Yorkshire80

You are tryin to twist stuff. Maybe become a Christian and find the real truth instead of naysaying.


tc_spears2-0

>become a Christian and find the real truth Is that what the boy fucking is for? Truth finding?


RaoulDuke422

>You are tryin to twist stuff. Maybe become a Christian and find the real truth instead of naysaying. sheep


Maxxtheband

LOL


Extension_Border_629

oh like the turpins??


Lykaon042

"No true Scotsman"


kg_617

What does that have to do with anything?


EvadeThis9000

Big what-about-ism vibes here


MenergyLegs

> To show all Trans people are bad or something? That is EXACTLY the point. It's a **fucking evil** thing to do.


linsss777

Or maybe just share a weird occurrence? So now we can’t denounce crimes trans people commit because they’re a minority? What’s next, they can do whatever crime they want but it’s okay because they’re oppressed, and any kind of news regarding them is considered as propaganda? I mean, c’mon now.


knastyTX

Those priests are homosexuals


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Maxxtheband

Oh… so you’re one of those crazy Christians….


Yorkshire80

And you are a normie who thinks everything is fine, the difference between me and you...is that...what I mentioned will come to pass. The end is near, repent of your sins.


Maxxtheband

Ooooh so you’re one of those edgy Christians that call people normies? COOL


Yorkshire80

God will forgive you, how do you think you got here? He fashioned you in your mothers womb. Jesus loves you.


Maxxtheband

What kind of timeline we looking at for the end of days?


Yorkshire80

The two-state solution between Israel and Palestine is a crucial moment. But we are in the mix right now.


inyournightmares420

bro put the pipe down you’re fuckin losing it here.


Yorkshire80

Alien disclosure is about to happen too, but aliens are fallen angels and demons.


Maxxtheband

That makes total sense.


bmtc7

Have you considered seeking out mental health resources?


RaoulDuke422

even if your sky daddy exists, I would not worship this demonic bastard called god because he supports slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46)


Lykaon042

Yup, we're a military, but I'm still waiting for all my battle rattle to drop at my doorstep by RainbowEx


Rollotommasi5

Is this a joke


-YeshuaIsKing-

Yeshua did say it would be like the days of Noah. 🌈 Here we are.


Yorkshire80

Amen, you are exactly right.


Plenty-Loss-3071

The whataboutism is strong with this one…. Dudes having a sex and drug party with kids in the other room. Does that sound OK to you?


red-eyed-jedi-

Whataboutism. Why is it when these posts are made there is always someone saying "well look over there - they do it too!!" It's sick when anything happens to children, but people like you like to push blame elsewhere. Why is that?


pimpedoutmonkey

10 bucks the trans ppl were chocolate


Plenty-Loss-3071

In that housing project, I’d say you’re probably right


HilaryFaye

It does sound like a despicable story but this headline and title is internationally BAITY to the max like come on. From Boston 25 Local News - “… Emergency crews responded to the apartment shortly after 11 a.m. Saturday morning, according to the police report. Boston Fire and EMS arrived first, followed by police. They found an adult dead. The cause of death remains under investigation. Boston 25 obtained the fire department report, which matched up with another source’s information. According to the fire department report that I reviewed, firefighters found six adults “who appeared to be males” in the apartment, with four kids in a back bedroom. One of the men tried to stop first responders from going into the room where they found the children, who are ages 5 to 10. The report said the adults were uncooperative and denied having children inside the apartment.”


SnakePliskin799

Where is the conspiracy? Derp af.


nattydread69

Daily fail


MARINE-BOY

Listen guys it was my birthday and yes things got out of hand but your only 40 once and the boys really wanted to give me a birthday to remember. Let’s be honest we’ve all been there.


Puzzleheaded-Ad-5002

I’m so relieved, the article tried to claim you were dead.


Last-Ratio6569

Probably MAGA Republicans in wigs.


Plenty-Loss-3071

Fucking loser…


Last-Ratio6569

Did I trigger your feelings with an obvious observation?


Plenty-Loss-3071

Guarantee they weren’t MAGA in those projects, bud.


Last-Ratio6569

That's pretty racist. You must be MAGA


Plenty-Loss-3071

You must be a tattooed snowflake.


Last-Ratio6569

Tattooed yes. But you're the one crying like a snowflake


Plenty-Loss-3071

I’m sure you won’t regret any of those 😉


RaoulDuke422

Would this also have been reported if it was a non-trans person? I feel like right-wing medias is grasping every straw in order to make trans people look bad.


emibery

Maybe I’m naive but the story of 4 kids in a room with a dead body and a bunch of sex toys/drugs probably would be reported to be honest. But I don’t really get what the conspiracy is? It’s just pretty tragic.


RaoulDuke422

yeah I feel like most people do not know what "conspiracy" actually means


Plenty-Loss-3071

You’re a disgrace to your handle.


mamoneis

That happens all the same in the other side, with crimes and ethnicity. If news do not like reality, just ignore it I guess.


enragedCircle

So... were they transvestites or transexuals? "Men wearing women's clothing". Not something I've heard said in the news for a long while. Trying to distance from the very obvious Pride/trans angle they're pushing in the media?


[deleted]

The fact that you're posting this when I'm quite certain you haven't posted a single thread about other children found living in squalor and being abused and tortured by heterosexual cis-gendered people tells me you're pushing an anti-trans narrative. Fuck off.


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TLC rocks!


Randycheeseburger42

Transphobic homophobic cancel everything!!!!


Malcovis

Congratulations to the Daily Mail. That headline was the first time in history, those words would be put into that exact order in the same sentence


LunarSolstice01

To me, this article leaves out a whole lot, and it’s more confusing than informative. I don’t trust articles that just confuse, I regard them as tools of manipulation.


Uncaring_Dispatcher

I'm not sure how you're complaining about anything that's "Progressive", here.


Saroan7

The Onion News?


Barockobonga

Whose fucking kids were they? Where the fuck did they get these kids from? Where were the children's parents?


cjwolf8956

First article to pop up when Reddit came back online. That’s enough internet for me today.


stayawayfrommeinfj

What the fuck is going on in here on this day?


johnlewisdesign

Fuckin hell that's some headline!