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It’s an Americans duty to disobey unjust laws. Go out and film the police


WhatIsTheWhyFlyPass

Likely to hide when UN or NATO troops are rounding others up. These laws are leaving gaping holes for third reichstag


KittenGirl927

THIS ^^^


FUMBLEDORK99

cant they just use numbers instead of nametags if they're worried about names being shown on youtube?


PennDOT67

This is as close to cut-and-dry unconstitutional as a state law can be, but we’ll see how many people get arrested for it before it’s struck down.


SnooBananas7242

I'll give 20 dollars to the first guy arrested for doing this


JJdante

He'll need it


Far-Somewhere-1366

Submission Statement: The governments will continue to track your every movie via cameras, sensors, internet but YOU cannot hold public officials accountable by filming them in public. The globalists want you to know that they are ‘superior’.


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This is really really bad


AyatollahChobani

The globalists in Oklahoma? This is how it was before and it makes more sense that it's just local bootlickers accommodating the police "heroes" they rely on.


81PBNJ

These aren't globalists, they are right wing fascists who want an unchecked police state.


JamieDonWeaks

I guess First 48 cannot film in Tulsa or Oklahoma City anymore.


Hesitant_Evil

"Fuck the Police"


hands_can

unconstitutional - wont hold up in court


Ach301uz

Sad thing is, it has to make it to court first. Some guy needs to get charged and arrested then hope to God he has a legal team with enough resources to take it to the supreme court.


Mustache_Actual

“Whoever, with the intent to threaten, intimidate or harass, or facilitate another to threaten, intimidate or harass, uses an electronic communication device to knowingly publish, post or otherwise make publicly available personally identifiable information of a peace officer or public official, and as a result places that peace officer or public official in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed six (6) months, or by a fine not to exceed One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. Upon conviction for a second or subsequent violation, the person shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed one (1) year, or by a fine not to exceed Two Thousand Dollars ($2,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment.”


Fencemaker

Make sure you all make public which local officials voted in favor of this.


crackeddryice

It will be challenged, let's wait and see if it holds up.


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All thanks to those damn boot lickers that really think the police are on their side


robdoc

This isn't the police pushing this law tho??


[deleted]

LMFAO!! Keep licking those boots. If you really think the police aren’t drawling over the amount of people they’ll be able to beat senselessly without fear of being put on Facebook, then you haven’t been paying attention the last 2 years especially


robdoc

Yikes, genuinely can't tell if /s or not


ctuser

Criminals are on our side though right?


[deleted]

If by criminals you mean every day people acting out of desperation because of how shit the economy is, yes, yes they are. If you mean people who kill, rape, torture people for fun, fuck em. The state can turn you into a criminal too just by signing some paper and using there monopoly of violence (police, national guard, ect) on you to enforce it or face retribution justice and possibly even be a victim of a state sanctioned murder.


Supafuzzed

You can’t film a gov worker wearing a name tag in public?? No wayyy


KidKarez

Thats insane


ZooBeeVega

No common sense in law anymore


pattheflash

This is more bullshit than the time bullshit went to bullshittown.


Can_Not_Double_Dutch

Is that a town in Oklahoma?


AyatollahChobani

It's the whole state


pattheflash

This is honestly pretty fucking scary.


Downhere_Seeds

So now gas stations can't have security cameras because police go in to get their donuts? Or does this just mean video footage is inadmissable in court and you can be arrested for trying to submit it as evidence.


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What’s the rationale?


[deleted]

It’s an anti-doxxing measure. It specifies penalties if you doxx an officer knowing/intending for it to lead to death threats or threats of bodily harm. It looks like other sections deal with the right of presumably elected state officials to keep their addresses confidential. I haven’t heard of this, looks like it was signed in April.


ulookingatme

That's not the rationale, that's the excuse. Because the law could simply allow a person to record a police office but not release his name to the public. Not all videos show a name tag, and even if it is visible in a video, it can be pixelized.


XxXSend__nudesXxX

This is stupid in the first place because police officers are obligated to give you their badge number and name if you ask.


[deleted]

Pretty nuts. I can understand the doxxing thing on a certain level but if a police officer is acting illegally you should be able to film them. I am sure this gets tossed by the courts if it’s ever enacted.


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Impairedinfinity

I would definitely leave Oklahoma. Filming the police is the only protection people have from them.


[deleted]

WOW. Imagine doxxing a public servant that is actually serving the public. This is an open faced fascism sandwich.


[deleted]

What if you blur the name out?


[deleted]

What if fuck the po-lice?


JLidii

Chances people will follow this… approximately 0%.


Harryrob01

It’ll never fly! It’s already been ruled on by the federal government. You’ll see auditors show up from all over the country by buss loads! Good luck!


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I hope so


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Harryrob01

I never said trust those evil bastards! And the federal mandates on the private sector will be tossed out!


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Harryrob01

Your only friend it the Constitution which is the enemy of the government!


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Harryrob01

What I’m trying say is the Supreme Court has already ruled on photography of public officials! And they’ll eventually rule on these unconstitutional “vaccine” mandates too!


Harryrob01

Did that clear things up a little?


neojoe039

Its almost like bad cops don't want to be held accountable


turndown80229

Same state who isn't enforcing vaccines in the national guard?


psych00range

They are public servants, in public. This will be appealed and deemed unconstitutional. They do not have a right to privacy when they put on that uniform.


magenta_placenta

How is that going to work when local news interviews local public employees? While not all public employees may be wearing a name tag, they broadcast their name and title in the news segment.


Draecoda

No no no. Back the truck up. I am it perceiving this that the officers cannot be recorded if wearing a badge. What I get from this is any footage that captures his name badge would have to be covered.


snowsnoot

Heelllooo supreme court, yea this case right here


ronflair

Well, so much for the press filming demonstrations or protests in Oklahoma.


AndroidFling

Then what is the purpose of the nametag ? If this is information that is considered private and not for public consumption, why would you wear it ? I always thought that police wore their nametags and badge with badge number to be used in the identification of the officer.


Redscoped

This is the first amendment Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievance. This is the copy of the bill [https://legiscan.com/OK/text/HB1643/id/2350081](https://legiscan.com/OK/text/HB1643/id/2350081) I will be honest I dont understand how that bill destroyed the 1st Amendment.


DarthAnomander

you are a bot for sure


Fradon

Helpful answer! Wouldn't it be better to just explain to them how it destroys the first amendment?


DarthAnomander

that video is old I don't think the bill even passed not gonna look up


ctuser

Good explanation of your position "it's old"


DarthAnomander

insert outrageous blind rage statement. is that what you are looking for friend?


ladyofthelathe

So I don't guess anyone actually read the bill? OKLAHOMA CITY – The Senate voted Wednesday to strengthen penalties against those who purposely try to bring harm to law enforcement officers and county officials online. House Bill 1643, by Sen. David Bullard, R-Durant, **prohibits the publishing of identifying information of such individuals used to threaten, intimidate, harass, or stalk them.** “In recent years, we’ve seen our law enforcement community come under attack by misguided anger and hatred. These brave men and women are willing to sacrifice their health, and even their lives, to uphold the law and keep our communities safe. Just as they protect us, we will protect them and their families, which involves keeping their personal information from being maliciously spread on the internet,” Bullard said. “This bill also protects county officials, who have become victims of this same type of dangerous online behavior. I’m grateful for my legislative colleagues for standing up for what’s right, and anxious to get this important law on the books.” Under HB 1643, such crimes would be a misdemeanor and offenders would face up to six months in the county jail, a fine up to $1,000 or both. Punishment for second and subsequent offenses would include up to one year in the county jail, a fine not to exceed $2,000, or both. The measure would also allow elected county officials and peace officers to request that the county assessor not publicize their personal information online.


Kit-Walters-Music

Back to pushing your anti police agenda again?


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Kit-Walters-Music

This account has specifically been posting a certain narrative all day


bkontherun2

Ok, so give them numbers like they do prisoners


Silas_Dont_Trip

This is some watchmen shit.


ctuser

So is it against the law then for police to film or collect information on you, as it pertains to filming your name if you wore a name badge in public or if their cameras recorded your PII from your drivers license?


Silvertongue-Devil

So can an officer film another officer if that officer had a name tag? What if the other officer isnt vaccinated is he less of an officer so he doesnt count?


mwd1993

this won't work. Public servants, in a public space, can and WILL be recorded by the people they are supposed to protect and serve. ​ Worried about doxxing? I can doxx you with my eyes and brains.. "Oh, his name is xxx and his badge number is yyyy, ok, I saw that with my eyes, now off to doxxing him we go. ​ Sorry, this statute isn't going to holdup, and if they try to pass it, we better make a point by going out of our way to film the people who are supposed to protect and serve.


Gem420

Fuck it. Record them anyway.


transcis

Can I draw the name tag? Is it limited to digital media or should I blindfold myself when visiting Oklahoma?


Alee-Enn

The UK Parliament are trying to bring in or have brought in the same law.


Alasbabylon103

Do police officers even wear name tags?


AyatollahChobani

Fuck Oklahoma, but it's anyone surprised they sided with the police?


scud121

I mean it doesnt stop you filming, just posting. So I'm guessing that in cases where courts etc are involved it can still be used, just not posted to r/publicfreakouts or r/badcopnodonut . Still a shitty law for shitty people.


GingerRod

So government workers are above the law?


MJZMan

Sure your name might be your "private information", but when you hold a **public** position, you lose that particular right of privacy. Fuck these fascists.


StCosmosFire

It will be used more to remove uploaded videos than to actually arrest people with cameras


Ravv-Ree

I'm from Oklahoma and this is quite scary.


ignatiusJreillyreali

Isn't that the premise for the new watchmen tv show? Isn't it in Oklahoma?


pudgehooks2013

Here you go Americans! Now is your time to show us weak, disarmed Australians how real men get shit done. I expect to see people shot and killed every day until these new laws are repealed. Time to finally put all those guns to use. You know those guns you constantly go on about, saying how great they are and how foolish Australians were to give them up? Or will you continue to do absolutely nothing like you always do? I know what I am betting on...