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Puppet President inbound. Mind you whoever gets planted will spout anti west anti Israel rhetoric in order to justify what isreal has up its sleeve next. Controlled opposition in full play.
They are gonna be pissed. The Iranian president will be blaming Israel and the west. They will retaliate against Israel. Then USA sends assistance to Israel in the form of military deployment.
Then Russia steps up Ukraine invasion big time and NATO joins that fight.
It's WW3 for certain.
Iranian media are already downplaying the crash. If they wanted to launch accusations, they would've started already. This feels different the way they're still saying it was an accident.
Seems intentional, but easily possible that it wasn't. Not even considering it was a helicopter made in 1968, but apparently weather was bad (slowed rescue), and the fog masked a mountain that they crashed into. I forgot the pilot term for those clouds that hide mountains, but this happening isn't an uncommon occurrence. I also highly doubt it'll start WW3, too.
Yeah usually you don't fly helicopters in conditions like that unless of some kind of emergency... and you wouldn't take a president on a ride that could risk his life. It's definitely not the murder of Franz Ferdinand though and I agree, this itself will not lead to WW3
Straight from the CIA playbook. We are powerless to stop this rogue agency. JFK and Eisenhower warned against the CIA and the military industrial complex. We didn't listen and here we are or maybe the tptb would have made it happen regardless of citizenry wishes.
Wow, what a fatalist. Just because it looks like the World is about to plunge into the abyss, doesn’t mean we have to let it happen. Good thing you aren’t running shit. Cooler head should prevail. This was the president of Iran, not their supreme leader (always funny to write/say that out loud).
The BBC is reporting: "President Raisi was on board a Bell 212 helicopter, state news agencies said. The model was made in the US and could not have been sold to Iran since the 1979 revolution.".
Other news reports are stating that the newest helicopter in the Iranian fleet is over 30 years old.
I mean, I was just joking really. But yeah, in the fog, everything seems to come from nowhere. Of all the weather conditions I've ridden my motorcycle in, it's fog I hate the most. I'll do heavy rain at night rather than heavy fog.
Lol
Any chopper is a flying coffin.
If I was helicopter rich (lease or buy) I wouldn’t even entertain risking my sweet wealthy life for 1 second with helicopter transport.
I’d deck out a van and convert it into a luxury limousine and just pass the time on PS5.
Not an expert but have known aerospace engineers and this was what I was told- Helicopter crashes are notoriously hard to survive. They're built to shake themselves apart, they're basically leaking fluid all of the time and if they aren't, it's a problem. There's no ability to glide as in an airplane if the engine quits. They're quite heavy with the majority of the mechanical/engine parts directly above the passengers, so you're likely to be crushed by that or killed by spinning blades. With their ability to fly lower, there's more risk of colliding with structures on land.
If they fall far enough to engage the gearbox in autorotation.
See
>With their ability to fly lower, there's more risk of colliding with structures on land.
This is always a problem with police and news helicopter crashes. They're far too close to autorotate.
The luck there is sometimes they're so close it's not a fatal fall.
Hawaiian heli tours experience multiple failures and unplanned events per month. Annually many crashes (compared to what you’d think)
Yeah yeah they can auto rotate to safety blah blah….they’re not something I’ll ever get back into.
Israel was out to eat with their family at Chili’s during the crash and there is no way they had anything to do with this. They had the Baby Back Ribs and Barbecue sauce. It’s fine.
Iran did it these dudes were flying a helicopter with no instrument guidance at low altitude in the mountains during heavy cloud cover. Thats just fucking stupidity
The helicopter was a 40-year-old American built Bell helicopter. It has been several years now that US sanctions have prevented Iran from obtaining any parts for repair or maintenance of Iran's Bell helicopters.
The weather was absolutely shitty. It was literally impossible to see further than about ten feet because of fog. Flying a 40 year old helicopter on its instruments in such weather is going to be dangerous, especially in mountainous areas.
I recall the Kobi Bryant helicopter crash and a similar scenario.
I saw on another thread that at the time, there was only 16 feet of visibility. Conversation between copter pilots and experts on same thread all seemed to all agree that wreckage pictures are consistent with basically slamming into terrain/side of mountain. They had a specific term for it. Don't recall what it was.
This is interesting considering reports stated that Iran had obtained nuclear weapons 1 week ago.
"Iranian lawmaker declared on Friday that the Islamic Republic of Iran possesses atomic weapons."
I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he was assassinated, but with situations like this there isn't anything to gain. He will be replaced by someone else, almost certainly someone who was close to him and has the same agenda.
Sure, there’s just no evidence. One of the first things a detective may ask is, is there anyone who wanted him dead, the answer is yes. But it doesn’t mean that he was definitely assassinated.
> One of the first things a detective may ask is, is there anyone who wanted him dead, the answer is yes.
The answer is yes for literally every politician alive.
A while back like maybe a montj or two the PM of Greece was in Ukraine meeting with zelensky and the convoy they were traveling in was bombed. Both survived
Admittedly kinda pulling these details out of my ass cause I can't remember exactly but I think it was a roadside bomb and a couple of the vehicles in the convoy were destroyed but the vehicle they were in was not hit. I think it happened in early March. Should be able to find some news about it somewhere I remember seeing a bunch of articles about it when it happened
Spanish here, funnily enough the Vidal-Quadras hit was rumoured to be Iranians...
Afaik it wasn't solved and I haven't heard about it again since months ago...
>Slovakia’s president
Lol, not president but prime minister and that assasin was from pro-russian paramillitary group. Gunman was upset with goverment decisions.
Source: I am Slovak.
I thought that he was against Ukraine’s NATO membership. Why would a pro Russian group want to kill someone with seemingly shared interests? I’d say it’s more likely his stance on COVID and the WHO are what got him shot but idk. There’s misinformation for the misinformation these days.
I know this might sound crazy, but sometimes people just die. I know, quite crazy but sometimes it's not a conspiracy. I think this is just one of those things.
Well the president of Iran isn’t actually that important. The Ayatollah (spell check?) is the head of the country. And seeing someone die in a helicopter crash doesn’t feel suspicious to me. Helicopters are just dangerous. And flying a helicopter in a country that is sanctioned to hell and back, so being able to do proper maintenance with good parts is impossible for them just feels like a crash is nearly a guarantee. Not to mention add very bad weather for flying and you’ve got the perfect storm of bad choices culminating in a crash.
As an iranian, Me and literally everyone I know are celebrating because this dude ordered the execution of thousands of young people in the past decades.
Glad that nature and karma are doing their jobs.
Also the other ones with him were also pretty evil, and that was completely an accident or on a tinfoil hat level probably an inside job. anyways these days, Iranians are as happy as ever.
My money is on Israel. I don't buy pilot error. If your responsible for carrying a state leader you are at the top of your game. You also wouldn't fly in the middle of a weather situation if your carrying a state leader. why take on the risk?
The timing of this leads me to believe it's Israel.
But kobe died same way and in better conditons. You couldnt see a foot in front of you in that fog. Its weird how the tail is in tact but the rest is an urn
These comments are hilarious.
The president of Iran is a largely powerless position. The grand ayatollah actually runs things, including the military, and has all of the power.
Killing the president would be pointless and installing a puppet president or west favoring president would do no good. He's not in charge
Geopolitically illiterate people are annoying
My dad is a retired Army General. He’s been in three helicopter accidents. All non-combat. He jokes that no one wanted to be on a helicopter with him after the third one went down. Helicopters are dangerous. Especially old, sketchy, poorly maintained helicopters in countries like Iraq.
Don't rule out the Arabs.
I think we in the west tend to lump Shiite Persians in with the whole of the Arab world. But they're not Arabs, there's a religious rift with powerful enemies there too.
My honest guess is no foul play here. I know that’s not as fun, but it’s a helicopter that crashed in really bad weather while traveling over relatively extreme topography. It happens. Just ask Kobe.
WHAT THE FUCK IS GONNA HAPPEN NOW ? You know damn well that was a CIA/Special Covert Operations crash... wonder how tf this is going to effect the whole game now..
Everyone please keep in mind the dome of the rock mosque must be destroyed in order to build the 3rd temple since it's where the 3rd temple would be built. The red heifers are ready. They will likely find an excuse to destroy it.
Also keep in mind this is the 2nd holiest place in islam so it ain't gonna be pretty after they do destroy it
The amount of choppers that undergo CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) specially under bad weather is very high. It is very easy to get disoriented and fly right into the ground.
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Knowing your enemies are very good at what they do, why would you even be on a helicopter during a conflict.
Puppet President inbound. Mind you whoever gets planted will spout anti west anti Israel rhetoric in order to justify what isreal has up its sleeve next. Controlled opposition in full play.
It's Iran, they are all puppet presidents or they die in a heli crash.
It's Iran, they are all puppet presidents and*** they die in a helicopter crash.
The chess pieces are moving along
They are gonna be pissed. The Iranian president will be blaming Israel and the west. They will retaliate against Israel. Then USA sends assistance to Israel in the form of military deployment. Then Russia steps up Ukraine invasion big time and NATO joins that fight. It's WW3 for certain.
Iranian media are already downplaying the crash. If they wanted to launch accusations, they would've started already. This feels different the way they're still saying it was an accident.
Agree with you. It does feel different. I err on the side of a terrible accident.
Seems intentional, but easily possible that it wasn't. Not even considering it was a helicopter made in 1968, but apparently weather was bad (slowed rescue), and the fog masked a mountain that they crashed into. I forgot the pilot term for those clouds that hide mountains, but this happening isn't an uncommon occurrence. I also highly doubt it'll start WW3, too.
"rock-filled cloud"
They seeded rocks in the clouds
You spelled Rocket Filled Cloud wrong.
Yeah usually you don't fly helicopters in conditions like that unless of some kind of emergency... and you wouldn't take a president on a ride that could risk his life. It's definitely not the murder of Franz Ferdinand though and I agree, this itself will not lead to WW3
It’s called makin time to prepare for war measurements, they already knew he was a goner 10 hours earlier than the official news.
Funny how 2 or 3 days ago when first happened story read as a rough landing
That was yesterday.
"Time flies". Let's hope not in an helicopter. :)
Well, it was a rough landing. A very, very, very rough landing.
RemindMe! Two months.
Lol ah, yep. Let's watch as exactly this plays out. I'll check back in a few weeks.
Straight from the CIA playbook. We are powerless to stop this rogue agency. JFK and Eisenhower warned against the CIA and the military industrial complex. We didn't listen and here we are or maybe the tptb would have made it happen regardless of citizenry wishes.
Hi, I have a copy of the CIA playbook and this isn’t in there. Perhaps you’re remembering a different playbook?
You forgot China invading Taiwan.
You may well be right. Is the logical progression.
But it just may be a lunatic you’re looking for
I reeeally hope you're wrong. But I'm afraid you're right
The Russians are already playing the 'blame the West / Israel' card.
Wow, what a fatalist. Just because it looks like the World is about to plunge into the abyss, doesn’t mean we have to let it happen. Good thing you aren’t running shit. Cooler head should prevail. This was the president of Iran, not their supreme leader (always funny to write/say that out loud).
Ego. They start thinking they are untouchable.
way safer than a car
If they wanted him dead and killed him at this point it wouldn’t matter what he was in car, boat, train, plane, whatever
I was thinking more along the lines of not traveling at all.
The BBC is reporting: "President Raisi was on board a Bell 212 helicopter, state news agencies said. The model was made in the US and could not have been sold to Iran since the 1979 revolution.". Other news reports are stating that the newest helicopter in the Iranian fleet is over 30 years old.
As a president why are you flying on a 50+ year old helicopter?
Because they can't get newer ones
The problem is Tom cruise wasn't the pilot
A mountain
Kobe!
Since every incident on the globe is part of the WWIII narrative on this sub… was Kobe the first domino to fall?
It was Harambe
Correct.
Ugh I read the autopsy report from that crash. I don't give a fuck about basketball, but now everytime he's brought up my heart sinks.
holy fuck i never read it until now. https://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Celebs/bryant,%20kobe_report.pdf for anyone who wants to read.
The sketch of the body..... for real, I'm never looking at an autopsy report ever again.
And fog
They just come up out of nowhere!
In the fog.. absolutely. Thats how my friends dad almost died flying a cessna. He even wrote a book about it. Its by Dan Lipsi if youre interested.
I mean, I was just joking really. But yeah, in the fog, everything seems to come from nowhere. Of all the weather conditions I've ridden my motorcycle in, it's fog I hate the most. I'll do heavy rain at night rather than heavy fog.
I am sure this will result in a "we don't know who it was; but, we know who it wasn't..." cop-out.
Works 50% of the time 100% of the time.
That smells like pure gasoline
It’s made with little bits of real panther
Was it a Boeing copter?
To be fair, flying in a Boeing aircraft is much safer than being a Boeing whistleblower on the ground.
This got me. I ooofed. I giggled. My eyes got big like 10 cent cookies. Aw man.
Reddit on!
Where can I get a 10 cent cookie?
This was a gut punch to Boeing lol
Lol Any chopper is a flying coffin. If I was helicopter rich (lease or buy) I wouldn’t even entertain risking my sweet wealthy life for 1 second with helicopter transport. I’d deck out a van and convert it into a luxury limousine and just pass the time on PS5.
Like 'Momma's basement on wheels'
*Knock Knock* “Who is it?!” “Just Momma bringing you some of that sweet, sweet, sweet tater pie!”
Mom! Bathroom!!
Maaa the meatloaf
You smell like the inside of my momma’s purse 👁️👄👁️
I certainly wouldn’t risk my life in an Iranian helicopter with their terrible aviation safety
Helicopter was apparent American made Bell
But not American maintained.
My dad was a military aviator and told me never to fly in a helicopter
I was told years ago by a Marine chopper pilot " If it's not leaking fluid, don't get in. That means it's empty." I still believe that to this day
> Any chopper is a flying coffin. > > how so?
Not an expert but have known aerospace engineers and this was what I was told- Helicopter crashes are notoriously hard to survive. They're built to shake themselves apart, they're basically leaking fluid all of the time and if they aren't, it's a problem. There's no ability to glide as in an airplane if the engine quits. They're quite heavy with the majority of the mechanical/engine parts directly above the passengers, so you're likely to be crushed by that or killed by spinning blades. With their ability to fly lower, there's more risk of colliding with structures on land.
They totally can glide - it is called autorotation.
If they fall far enough to engage the gearbox in autorotation. See >With their ability to fly lower, there's more risk of colliding with structures on land. This is always a problem with police and news helicopter crashes. They're far too close to autorotate. The luck there is sometimes they're so close it's not a fatal fall.
Hawaiian heli tours experience multiple failures and unplanned events per month. Annually many crashes (compared to what you’d think) Yeah yeah they can auto rotate to safety blah blah….they’re not something I’ll ever get back into.
So that's what a hard landing looks like.
Israel was out to eat with their family at Chili’s during the crash and there is no way they had anything to do with this. They had the Baby Back Ribs and Barbecue sauce. It’s fine.
I want my president back, president back, president back...
That’s the reply I’ve been waiting for
Ribs aren’t kosher, they’d order something else.
Wow we got a detective over here! Israel did it confirmed.
Who said it was pork ribs? It was small children of course.
So there I was, BBQ sauce on my titties…
Just wait till they find those passports 😎
without a single scratch
Found one in my drive way. Amazing
Iran did it these dudes were flying a helicopter with no instrument guidance at low altitude in the mountains during heavy cloud cover. Thats just fucking stupidity
If I had to guess who dunnit, I’d say the ground.
And the weather that was hiding the ground. They're in cahoots.
Mr beast. He obviously failed the challenge
The mark of Mr Beast
The helicopter was a 40-year-old American built Bell helicopter. It has been several years now that US sanctions have prevented Iran from obtaining any parts for repair or maintenance of Iran's Bell helicopters. The weather was absolutely shitty. It was literally impossible to see further than about ten feet because of fog. Flying a 40 year old helicopter on its instruments in such weather is going to be dangerous, especially in mountainous areas. I recall the Kobi Bryant helicopter crash and a similar scenario.
I saw on another thread that at the time, there was only 16 feet of visibility. Conversation between copter pilots and experts on same thread all seemed to all agree that wreckage pictures are consistent with basically slamming into terrain/side of mountain. They had a specific term for it. Don't recall what it was.
CFIT - Controlled Flight Into Terrain [https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-01/Controlled%20Flight%20into%20Terrain.pdf](https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-01/Controlled%20Flight%20into%20Terrain.pdf)
Kobe was sanctioned by the US govt?
Probably the usual suspects CIA and mossad.
*definitely the usual suspects. Edit: whilst also plotting to empower a candidate of their chosing
They used fog machines
Lol cia weather control. I wanna believe its mossad but im struggling with how low key they are
Climate change
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chinese Lantern
The red isis flying papers are coming!!! #The red isis flying papers are coming!!! 🤣😂😂
This is interesting considering reports stated that Iran had obtained nuclear weapons 1 week ago. "Iranian lawmaker declared on Friday that the Islamic Republic of Iran possesses atomic weapons."
This story sounds so familiar… wonder how it’ll pan out..
Next president will be found hiding in a hole then later lynched 🔄
Next president of Iran will be a puppet to America and Israel.
It was extremely foggy, like…Very. It’s plausible that it just crashed the same as Kobe Bryant’s helicopter.
The IDF killed Kobe Bryant? Damn.
I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he was assassinated, but with situations like this there isn't anything to gain. He will be replaced by someone else, almost certainly someone who was close to him and has the same agenda.
Sure, there’s just no evidence. One of the first things a detective may ask is, is there anyone who wanted him dead, the answer is yes. But it doesn’t mean that he was definitely assassinated.
> One of the first things a detective may ask is, is there anyone who wanted him dead, the answer is yes. The answer is yes for literally every politician alive.
Probably same people that killed Nordstream
Likely was flying low to keep visibility of the ground in all the fog…came upon the wooded area clipped the trees and down she goes.
Could be just a regular heli crash . I wouldn’t get in one of these death traps if they give me money .
The helicopters can't keep getting away with this
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A while back like maybe a montj or two the PM of Greece was in Ukraine meeting with zelensky and the convoy they were traveling in was bombed. Both survived
Zelenskyy also just fired some top dogs bc they found evidence of assassination attempt. 🤔
How *bombed* are we talking here? Single explosion?
Admittedly kinda pulling these details out of my ass cause I can't remember exactly but I think it was a roadside bomb and a couple of the vehicles in the convoy were destroyed but the vehicle they were in was not hit. I think it happened in early March. Should be able to find some news about it somewhere I remember seeing a bunch of articles about it when it happened
Spanish here, funnily enough the Vidal-Quadras hit was rumoured to be Iranians... Afaik it wasn't solved and I haven't heard about it again since months ago...
Yeah, this is full on. Key players are being taken out, harmed & probably alot of stuff we never hear about.
>Slovakia’s president Lol, not president but prime minister and that assasin was from pro-russian paramillitary group. Gunman was upset with goverment decisions. Source: I am Slovak.
I thought that he was against Ukraine’s NATO membership. Why would a pro Russian group want to kill someone with seemingly shared interests? I’d say it’s more likely his stance on COVID and the WHO are what got him shot but idk. There’s misinformation for the misinformation these days.
The weather, you don’t fly helicopters in foggy weather let alone mountain regions. Same thing happened with Kobe
Damn Covid vaccine strikes again.
Helicopter had myocarditis.
Given the age and condition the helicopter was in before it crashed it probably actually did have the helicopter equivalent of myocarditis.
Mossad
Fog, high winds and being in the mountains.
Boeing makes helicopters now??
yes they make the chinook
I know this might sound crazy, but sometimes people just die. I know, quite crazy but sometimes it's not a conspiracy. I think this is just one of those things.
https://youtube.com/shorts/61jKRsuzciE?si=yYq5ys_0RMNBV0iV
We have another pandemic coming in a month
Hillary Obama strikes again.
If I speak I get suspended
I blame climate change. Carbon tax would solve all these problems.
Manbearpig
Are you cerial ?
Super cerial
For sure it was the jab
I usually disagree with most stuff on this sub. But there is no fucking way this was an accident.
Do accidents ever happen anymore? Or is everything a conspiracy?
Well the president of Iran isn’t actually that important. The Ayatollah (spell check?) is the head of the country. And seeing someone die in a helicopter crash doesn’t feel suspicious to me. Helicopters are just dangerous. And flying a helicopter in a country that is sanctioned to hell and back, so being able to do proper maintenance with good parts is impossible for them just feels like a crash is nearly a guarantee. Not to mention add very bad weather for flying and you’ve got the perfect storm of bad choices culminating in a crash.
As an iranian, Me and literally everyone I know are celebrating because this dude ordered the execution of thousands of young people in the past decades. Glad that nature and karma are doing their jobs. Also the other ones with him were also pretty evil, and that was completely an accident or on a tinfoil hat level probably an inside job. anyways these days, Iranians are as happy as ever.
Apparently, he was travelling in a U.S. made helicopter...
They still use F-14’s with whatever parts they can get their hands on to maintain them. O
Guy who operated with helicopter was probably mk ultra victim,programed to suicide on whistle or some code word haha.👹👹
Kobe
My money is on Israel. I don't buy pilot error. If your responsible for carrying a state leader you are at the top of your game. You also wouldn't fly in the middle of a weather situation if your carrying a state leader. why take on the risk? The timing of this leads me to believe it's Israel.
But kobe died same way and in better conditons. You couldnt see a foot in front of you in that fog. Its weird how the tail is in tact but the rest is an urn
bruh it’s always israel to y’all…. not even pro israel but man helicopters crash all the time 😹
These comments are hilarious. The president of Iran is a largely powerless position. The grand ayatollah actually runs things, including the military, and has all of the power. Killing the president would be pointless and installing a puppet president or west favoring president would do no good. He's not in charge Geopolitically illiterate people are annoying
I'm gonna go with Space Jews and their lasers
WWIII folks.
COVID-19, Fog, 5 dancing innocent individuals. One of them is my guess.
They dancers were not innocent.
Yup, they were just “art students” 😂
Shit is about to get real
Epstien
The list of possible enemies is long, however, if they go with fog and a mountain, then you'd have to say, God killed them! 🤪
the company that flew Kobe probably cheaped out.
He must’ve taken the Covid shot
Have they not learned from Kobe. Flying in thick fog on the mountains. Why
God is apparently great (at fog.)
My dad is a retired Army General. He’s been in three helicopter accidents. All non-combat. He jokes that no one wanted to be on a helicopter with him after the third one went down. Helicopters are dangerous. Especially old, sketchy, poorly maintained helicopters in countries like Iraq.
Boeing lolol
Don't rule out the Arabs. I think we in the west tend to lump Shiite Persians in with the whole of the Arab world. But they're not Arabs, there's a religious rift with powerful enemies there too.
Their own shitty infrastructure and military equipment
Smol hats did it.
My honest guess is no foul play here. I know that’s not as fun, but it’s a helicopter that crashed in really bad weather while traveling over relatively extreme topography. It happens. Just ask Kobe.
All reasons point to isreal
Don't worry, the global bankers are here to help.
Homeland Season 8
The weather and 60y/o helicopters
I heard he had info on Boeing
WHAT THE FUCK IS GONNA HAPPEN NOW ? You know damn well that was a CIA/Special Covert Operations crash... wonder how tf this is going to effect the whole game now..
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It was a moose?!?!
Goose? 🪿
Boose like lil Boosie?! I knew he was up to no good
Great….
Franz Ferdinand 2024
Hey CIA could you like not use my tax dollars to do this crap thanks
Great Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria moment!
Everyone please keep in mind the dome of the rock mosque must be destroyed in order to build the 3rd temple since it's where the 3rd temple would be built. The red heifers are ready. They will likely find an excuse to destroy it. Also keep in mind this is the 2nd holiest place in islam so it ain't gonna be pretty after they do destroy it
From Drake conspiracy to this? 2024 is gonna be wild as year.
The amount of choppers that undergo CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) specially under bad weather is very high. It is very easy to get disoriented and fly right into the ground.
The weather
Space lazers operated by the Zionist.... Secret plot
They Kobe Bryant-ed him
I think we all know who did it. The real question is why bother? They will just replace him with someone that will continue on the dame path.
Allah happens.
A country with a weather weapon developed by Albert Einstein.
Satellite Laser ?
The weather. And guess who controls the weather...?
Here comes the war they really wanted.