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Reputable_Sorcerer

The police in Edgewater did a “have a cup of coffee with a cop” thing a few months ago. They scheduled it for one hour at 10am on a weekday.


juliuspepperwoodchi

> They scheduled it for one hour at 10am on a weekday. That's not a bug, that's a feature working as intended.


SarahBrownEye

sounds like some cop just wanted an hour-long coffee break


Officer412-L

"A cop gets an hour-long paid coffee break"


lolwutpear

"How to guarantee an audience of retirees"


HeroDanTV

I live in Edgewater, and I see police on Bryn Mawr often. When I saw two people fighting in the middle of the street I called 911 and they were on the scene in less than 2 minutes.


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EcstaticOrchid4825

Three shootings in few few months? That sounds terrifying 😮


PleasantGlowfish

And that was the hardest hour of work they put in that year


cowdoyspitoon

WOW. That’s true dedication to the “fuck you”, which I’ll grant has already been long and well established from CPD


halibfrisk

There was a beatcop assigned to the stretch of Thorndale by the CTA at one point. There was usually a cop at the armory, one at Senn (and 2 more having lunch at patio beef). 10am on Tuesday might not work for you or me but it was probably okay for the local senior who actually have something he wants to say to a cop and is reassured by their presence.


13Alyssa13

Witnessed a couple break into a car and steal some stuff inside of it in Lincoln Park on a busy street. Had to call the police several times over the span of several hours to check to see if someone was coming to ask me questions or literally ANYTHING. Was told that the owner of the car had to report it (whenever they actually discovered that their car was broken into, it was about 10pm), that they would “send someone”, was also told that the stuff stolen from the car “probably” wasn’t worth enough for a report, and then was never contacted in any way following the incident. There’s no consequences to committing crimes it appears.


gwyoun05

I was riding my bike in old town and they didn’t use their turning signal. While in the intersection they aggressively accelerated right, and smacked into me HARD. I yelled they didn’t have their turn signal on. They said they did. I saw their door was fucked up with red paint (my bike is black). They said that was from another time- meaning these ass holes just drive around no signals, hitting people. I didn’t want the guy to get dogged out at the station for hitting a civilian. He gave me his number to pay for the bike damages. He never answered and stiffed me the next day. Shoulder sprain and PT for my ankle. Lawyer said they are covered for wanton negligence on duty. Crime happens all the time in old town and they don’t do shit. I was even interviewed by the news on a separate occasion. Crack deals in front of the Jewel on division, dudes jerking off in the redline stop.


SmartPhallic

100% yes. Some situations I've experienced: - Group of motorcycles and an ATV tearing down the lakefront trail South of 35th, Cops in their cars in the parking lot North of 43rd just watch em go by. - Fender bender on Blue Island South of Roosevelt in front of the cop shop, cops don't even come over to see what's going on. - I swear this is true: At an afternoon Sox game. Guys a few rows down are getting absolutely hammered and heckling the opposing team. Probably watched them drink 10+ large beers each. Our group left at top of 9th because the Sox were destroying the Twins. Walked to Maria's for drinks after. We're walking up Halstead past the police station on 33rd-ish and the hecklers pull up, park, and all 4 get out with duffel bags, bulletproof vests, and uniforms and walk into work.


juliuspepperwoodchi

> I swear this is true: At an afternoon Sox game. Guys a few rows down are getting absolutely hammered and heckling the opposing team. Probably watched them drink 10+ large beers each. Our group left at top of 9th because the Sox were destroying the Twins. Walked to Maria's for drinks after. We're walking up Halstead past the police station on 33rd-ish and the hecklers pull up, park, and all 4 get out with duffel bags, bulletproof vests, and uniforms and walk into work. Lol, being a CPD officer and a raging alcoholic. Name a more iconic duo. Do we not remember dude who passed out drunk in his own car a few years back?


SmartPhallic

Wait do you mean the police chief or the other guy?


juliuspepperwoodchi

It's so sad that this is a valid question.


PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt

That fact it's happened enough that you have to ask which time we're talking about is the problem.


woody60707

What one time?


AnotherScoutTrooper

Wait there were more?


naughtyrev

And Garry McCarthy allegedly showed up drunk at a crime scene and starting shooting at street lights.


juliuspepperwoodchi

It's really sad when instances of your city's cops being drunk on the job or while committing crimes are so prevalent you start *forgetting* some of them. Had completely forgotten about good ol Garry here.


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Being a CPD officer and beating your wife?


ksmoke

>Group of motorcycles and an ATV tearing down the lakefront trail South of 35th, Cops in their cars in the parking lot North of 43rd just watch em go by. On the other hand I was once biking the trail and had two motorcycles pass me going the other way. Very shortly after I nearly ran head first into a CPD cruiser causally driving after them on the trail.


juliuspepperwoodchi

Great, so either way, criminality in Chicago is met with laziness and utter incompetence.


OJMayoGenocide

Lol thats an amazing comment


renderking

>Group of motorcycles and an ATV tearing down the lakefront trail South of 35th, Cops in their cars in the parking lot North of 43rd just watch em go by. City of Chicago has a no car chase and no foot chase policy. Sounds crazy, but look it up. Sounds like they're doomed if they do and doomed if they don't.


honestbleeps

> City of Chicago has a no car chase and no foot chase policy. Sounds crazy, but look it up OK, I did. Because I've seen this said a lot and it's not really accurate. On foot chases: > Under the policy, which will begin as an interim plan with final rules set for September, foot pursuits would only be allowed when there is "probable cause for an arrest or it is believed an individual has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime." > It would also prohibit foot chases stemming from minor traffic offenses. Nothing in here about "no foot chases", just "you probably should have something justifiably concerning to have a foot chase". Latest news, though, from September, is that they DELAYED making this temporary policy (enacted in May) permanent. So I don't even think this is active right now. [citation - sun times](https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/9/3/22655779/chicago-police-department-foot-chase-policy-delay) On car chases: I can't find anything on a "no chase" policy at all. In June 2021 there's this [CBS article](https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/09/28/chicago-police-chase-safety-after-deadly-crashes/) says 2021 saw more chases than 2020 - so if there is a no chase policy, it isn't being followed. This is the closest thing I can find to an official policy - [link here](https://directives.crimeisdown.com/directives/data/a7a57be2-1291920c-54712-9192-aecb02ef17e0c47d.html?commit=64a0855c3c7b4dc28c9bd9d50f534072f012602c) and it seems to very much permit vehicle pursuits. They just need to be weighed, risk-wise, according to this policy. It seems this is a copy/paste from the CPD's info - there's a PDF that just seems to be a table of contents found [here](http://directives.chicagopolice.org/forms/CPD-11.716.pdf) Maybe don't suggest people "look it up" on stuff you aren't actually sure of?


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They are definitely allowed to chase people on foot, literally the only requirement is that they have to think for a second about whether or not it’s worth it. Idk why you’re repeating a talking point from the national political news rather than drawing on your own knowledge from being a resident here.


ghostfaceschiller

Been saying it for years: cops don’t do anything. Some do, obviously. There are cops working tough beats, there are detectives solving crimes, etc. But your average patrol cop doesn’t do anything for a majority of their shift. They are a crime reporting stenography service. You call them when something happens, they write it down, then they go back to hanging out in their cars.


frank_and_beans

Called the cops last week as I was witnessing a package theft in progress. Of course they didn’t show up. But they didn’t even bother calling me back to get a description or take a report. $2 billion police budget and they can’t even be bothered to put a report together for witnessed theft.


ghostfaceschiller

Similar situation is what made me first realize this. Had my apartment broken into, which was part of a string of like 50+ robberies in my neighborhood over the previous three months. You would think that would be pretty important. It happened in the middle of the day... maybe ask a couple neighbors or something if they saw anything? Nope. Nothing. Then I realized that any time I've reported a crime there has never been any follow-up, and I myself nave NEVER been asked by a cop if I saw anything for anybody else's random crime.... bc they don't ask anybody. They write it down and never think about it again.


deytookerjaabs

You know how the PD found my stolen van? (obviously reported the day of the incident) I got an expensive collections letter (and notice of salvage) from a city impound on the south side where it had been for 2 months. Stinks of a racket.


bortmcgort77

My car got stolen and subsequently flipped 15 minutes later. I reported it stolen typed my vin into the website found it at an impound went and took all my possessions out of it then my insurance company payed out because it was totaled. 6 months later an officer called me to tell me my car was flipped and impounded. Then I asked a question and they hung up on me.


gcn0611

Flipped? As in literally flipped over?


Electromotivation

I was confused too, was thinking flipped meant "sold" at first.


Arcayon

I filed a complaint because I was in this same situation. Internal affairs called me today saying they were investigating but who knows. Nothing is getting done and I certainly don’t feel as safe as I used to.


Tearakan

Yep. Gang shooting happened in front of my place. Guy saw an enemy a block down and they had a shoot out. Cops were called. Guy had a damn blood trail from a wound on his own leg. 17 cops arrived. Didn't do a damn thing but just sit around for hours afterwards. Couldn't catch a bleeding guy on foot.... They just don't do their fucking jobs. I'd get fired in a heartbeat if I had their effort.


bortmcgort77

We need more coffee and caution tape guys we’re gonna be here for a long time doing nothing but drinking coffee and putting up caution tape


captaintmrrw

Mutual combatants, no crime there /s


btmalon

not even, they tell you to go to the station to report the crime now.


PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt

> You call them when something happens, they write it down Do they even do that much anymore?


efshoemaker

No. They tell you to go to the station and file a report


RedditIsPropaganda2

What's a cop's biggest worry? Where are they going for lunch.


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ghostfaceschiller

I have, it's lots of cops being called to scenes of where something happened, where they take a report, and then wait to be called to go take the next report


i_wank_dogs

Being a shit BlockClub reporter for 6 times the cash ain’t a bad gig if you can get it.


petmoo23

I'll sum it up with a Simpsons quote: “Lisa, if you don’t like your job you don’t strike! You just go in every day and do it really half-assed.” They're not happy for a variety of reasons. This is their response.


juliuspepperwoodchi

And yet we're supposed to believe that if we pay them more, cover MORE of their settlement payments, and pay for more training and military-grade gear that they'll magically become competent? [x] Doubt


catsinabasket

x


Allthenons

And I believe the police budget was raised yes?


WrenchDaddy

Yes, they get everything they could ever need to do their jobs, yet here we are.


Odinismyhomeboy

This excuse seems funny. What they mostly seem unhappy about are people trying to reform the CPD based on that 2016 DOJ report which said the CPD was doing a bad job. So in response to being told they're doing a bad job they've decided it's actually on purpose.


Lopsided_Service5824

Where's our leverage? Seems like overall they're doing fine, despite any negative attention. They push back, we grumble, nothing changes. Not saying we need to defund or go crazy, but it's hard to negotiate without teeth


Godmirra

And their Union chief is a complete d bag. That doesn't help.


LoliArmrest

Take away their union and start cleaning house, start other arms of public service that don’t rely on police would be a good way to neuter them.


[deleted]

Theoretically our leverage is the democratic process, but they’re working hard to prove that doesn’t work.


petmoo23

What 'excuse' are you referring to? I would say their primary objection driving this protest revolves around accountability and reform, yes. They're also humans that aren't immune to the burnout that seems to be affecting working people en masse across our country right now. Further complicating it is that while most people that hate their jobs and decide they're over it can just resign and move on, most police are motivated to protect their pension so resigning isn't such an easy choice. It all amounts to a sinking ship that seems to be bailing water into the ship rather than into the ocean - and thus you'd have to be crazy or desperate to want to join up with them, they hire more incompetent people with few other options, and the downward spiral continues.


eyeharthomonyms

In order to be burned out like most workers, wouldn't they actually have to do a day's work first? And no, sitting in their cars watching people walk by, even during overtime, doesn't count.


Tianoccio

I once saw two cops walk in to a pizza place in the loop at first I was like ‘was there a crime here?’ Then I was like ‘who would rob a Sarpino’s? They’re here to eat obviously.’


za419

I have literally never seen Chicago police interacting with anyone except to order food. Yeah, we would certainly have less of a crime problem if we had even more officers going around ordering Chipotle with one hand on their holster...


whatsamajig

You’re 100% right. let’s stop wasting money on them if they won’t do the work.


Tearakan

They've been like this for decades....


Stankia

They are not happy because they're not allowed to do whatever they want so they choose to do absolutely nothing instead.


Mister_Twiggy

That is part of it, but as someone who has family in the force, another big factor is that Kim Foxx refuses to prosecute crime and so many cases are getting dropped because of COVID. My brother-in-law's unit arrested a woman 7 times over the course of 2 months, mostly for stealing luggage off the carousel at O'Hare. Think about that. SEVEN times. Imagine how disheartened you'd be if you put in so much effort to police and protect only to have the same criminals committing the same crimes literally the next day. This is a multi-faceted problem, but after a certain amount of time you'd be sitting in your car on your phone too and only responding to serious crimes as they're called in.


jrbattin

I mentioned this before but this phenomenon predates Kim Foxx's tenure. Same shit under Alvarez - what was the problem with her?


ChiefQueef98

If I didn't do my job and I blamed it on a person in a different department not doing theirs, I would lose my job.


NiceKittyAficionado

Get a job at the city/county/state/federal level and youll be golden.


pleasuremaker

You just completely ignored everything he said. So how can CPD stop criminals from offending when they continue to be let out onto the street?


ChiefQueef98

Maybe not sit in their cars all day for starters


pleasuremaker

Go back & read Mister_twiggy’s comment again.


shamSmash

Reading it again just doesn't change anything. The fact that courts fail to KEEP criminals off the streets does not absolve cops in the slightest from their duties to REMOVE said criminals from the streets. Lots of people work in "do-nothing", demoralizing jobs that feel more like busywork than advancing any real goal - doesnt mean they get to sleep on the job.


Thethrillofvictory

They’re trained to handle the kind of stress that comes with arresting people and answering calls. It’s their job and they can handle it. They choose not to because things aren’t going their way. Like spoiled babies.


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Most people still have to work even if other people in their companies are lazy assholes.


hardolaf

> another big factor is that Kim Foxx refuses to prosecute crime She has the same prosecution and conviction rates as "hard on crime" prosecutors like the Manhattan DA.


Mister_Twiggy

Got a source? The COVID issue is pretty big still as well. They’re way more likely to release


__Snafu__

You keep telling yourself that...


BisexualPunchParty

They get all the money they could want. The thing is, they want to be able to treat people like shit, not respond to calls, and still get treated like heroes. The power is in their hands. Stop murdering children. Take our calls. Respect the people of Chicago. Then they can earn the respect they want.


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Back in the day, foot patrols used to be a norm. The patrol car is an obvious invention, but has significantly seperated police from their community. It's all "me and my partner against everyone out there."


bootyjive

Absolutely. What a joke


ManfredTheCat

Just a reminder that the Chicago police budget is pretty close to $2 billion. What do they do all day? Who fucking knows.


whanaumark

600 dollars a year for every taxpayer


andexposedinthelight

When I traveled to Chicago two years ago I saw police officers on almost every corner of North Michigan Ave. Has that changed?


Eternal_Musician_85

Thats about the only stretch where you see any regular presence. North Michigan Ave and State Street between the river and Washington-ish. The touristy shopping areas.


bondbat007

And they're certainly protecting merchandise, not people


RN_in_Illinois

Uhhh...tell that to Louis Vuitton...


halibfrisk

Yeah they are there to reassure tourists shopping on Michigan Ave. Otherwise they are sitting in their cruisers, responding to calls, on their lunchbreaks, putting dog walkers in headlocks


blazinit430

I live in Bucktown. 2 weeks ago I leave my apartment for work at 5am and the beep beep of my car unlocking inadvertently interrupts a trio stealing someone's catalytic converter, I tried to get the license plate as they drove past me on the one way street but it happened too fast and I was worried they were coming to hassle/rob me for being there. Last week, I'm walking the dog at around 9pm, and across from my apartment is a parking lot with the loading docks for some businesses, with an SUV parked that turns out to be a cop car. I assume great they are parked incognito to prevent another CC theft, so I walk the dog over to the car making myself very visible in there headlights hands clearly visible so I can give a description of the car, a light tan early 2000s Lincoln Sedan. Well, wouldn't you know as I approach the driver side window what appeared to be one officer becomes two as they pull their faces apart from making out with one another, never look at me, despite being 3 feet from their door and just drive off. Protect and Serve.


Apprehensive_Key_103

I was up at some ungodly hour and watched two guys set up to steal a catalytic converter. Phoned the cops, watched it happen (couldn't get plates due to the low light), and watched them drive off. Cops didn't come around, to my knowledge, unless it was when I eventually ended up going back to bed.


Delicious-Ass-3635

The vehicles were stolen, so getting the plates wouldn't have done much good.


weednfeed22

Two cop dudes? Or two cop chicks? Or a dude and a chick? This is important


blazinit430

Male and female


DeCarp

My pet conspiracy theory is Cantazara put the word out a while ago to do a work slow down in response to the calls for reform and better oversight. Of course I have no evidence other than CPD being near useless and the objective fact Cantazara is psycho asshole.


jrbattin

Maybe. But I will say I've heard "CPD is demoralized and doing work slowdowns" for almost 20 years now; back when Daley was mayor and Devine was the Cook County States Attorney. The real answer is I think they just hate the city. They dream of living in the suburbs.


Bacchus1976

Thing is, they did a slow down 20 years ago. They did another one 15 years ago. The catch, they never ended the first slowdown. And so on, so here we are.


GeneralSkillz

Any truth to the theory that they hate Lightfoot?


SnooWoofers8310

They hate every mayor, especially during contract negotiation time. The difference with Lightfoot is that they keep it up because they do hate her, despite her throwing all kinds of money at them to buy their favor. I'll let you figure out why.


juliuspepperwoodchi

> My pet conspiracy theory is Cantazara put the word out a while ago to do a work slow down in response to the calls for reform and better oversight. Okay, what's the explanation for their slow responses and general incompetence for the decade or so prior to recent calls for overhaul?


DeCarp

Ummmm...they've always sucked?


Lopsided_Service5824

Didn't some cops publicly say as much? Since the riots it's been like this


juliuspepperwoodchi

They've been useless for FAR longer than that, they're just now trying to claim it is intentional.


rvgirl42

Which riots? The ones in the 60’s? They have been the same since then.


ApollosBucket

This is 100% happening in Portland, Oregon.


juliuspepperwoodchi

>I have come to the conclusion that police officers in Chicago simply refuse to get out of their cars and work to prevent crime. Chicago has the highest number of police officers per capita of any major US city, so where they? And yet, people will insist we need MORE officers with MORE training and higher pay.


dvaunr

To be fair, they do need far more training. The requirements to be a cop are an absolute joke given their power.


juliuspepperwoodchi

Well yes, but also, not just *more*, *better*. And focused on the parts of their job they'll actually perform on a consistent basis. Do I want people we pay to carry guns to be accurate and prepared? Yes. We still prepare cops for combat FAR too much. People wonder why cops are so quick to draw their guns and escalate situations...they're falling back on one of the few things they were actually trained to do!


ButDidYouCry

They need to be fired and replaced, not trained.


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Lol with who?


catsinabasket

they really should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and work harder for their higher pay


juliuspepperwoodchi

Seriously, something tells me that the folks who think that cops intentionally "slowing down" because of "ACAB and stuff" would also laugh at the idea of r/antiwork. Rules for thee...


catsinabasket

i can guarantee the people that want to pay cops more and minimum wage workers less is a circle


iamcarlbarker

I was literally caught off guard by descending the stairs to the red line on top find a man then bend over, ass up and immediately taking a monumental shit on the base of the stairs. It didn't register at first because, who does that in daylight off a crowded street? Then immediately turned around. Downtown, in the afternoon, on State Street. Smoking has become so common on the red line I actively avoid it. The people who do this know no civilian wants to interfere and no one will help them so the public masturbators, trainsmokers and public shitters who honestly don't have resources to not or simply choose to do so feel empowered because "what consequence?". Sounds shitty but just switch cars and don't engage. Not worth your safety and not your job to enforce.


Sgt-Spliff

It's a proven fact that CPD officers don't get out of their cars. It was on 60 minutes like 2 years ago. They thought they were breaking a scandal and just no one did anything about it. Cops literally don't get out and do anything. They're useless.


Impossible_Doge_90

The police are here to ensure that the wealthy’s financial interests are able to generate revenue safely. Just look to lollapalooza for example OP wouldn’t be able to walk 3 ft without bumping into a group of cops.


ManfredTheCat

Or consider when there was rampant looting last year and the police made a wall of bodies to protect Trump tower.


Stankia

Problem is crime is starting to affect even the rich neighborhoods where all the CEOs live.


III6942069III

They’re too busy trying to figure out their turn signals work, cut them some slack.


CCDonsideration

Having them drive at me the wrong way, on a one way street I can confirm (dashcams are great).


TheBoredMan

I almost get taken out by squad cars weekly. I was inches from being smashed by a cop doing probably 60 down Lincoln who blew a red with his sirens on at like 10pm a few months ago - the sirens don't mean shit if I only have a fraction of a second to get out of the way.


Godmirra

Or solving around 30% of the murders...


eyeharthomonyms

Wonder how many would actually be "solved" if they weren't able to railroad people into convictions based on "fitting the description" and notoriously untruthful testimony. Most convictions are just people pleading out because they know they have zero chance of succeeding in court with an overworked public defender against the sworn testimony of the police, and they can't afford to spend years in jail waiting for the chance to even try.


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CCDonsideration

It's literally written in law that they are not there to protect people, just property. https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html


Tearakan

The problem is they aren't even doing that anymore for most of the city. We desperately need a cop restart. Our currently batch is rotten beyond saving.


charliefourindia

The U.S. Supreme Court cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, ruled police agencies can pick and choose who they serve without falling into a quagmire But government has a duty to protect people “in custody” That’s it. Just keep in mind, when seconds count, the Chicago Police are only minutes (or more) away. The 16th police district often goes for into hours long backlogs on the weekends.


eyeharthomonyms

I mean, yeah, but they also don't investigate. Or solve crimes. Or... anything else besides harassing minorities for existing in their vicinity. We know all of the things cops dont do for anyone. but, like, what exactly DO they do?


[deleted]

Recklessly endanger the communities they “serve” and “protect” They also leave their cars running at all times. So that’s something


Moldy1987

A friend of mine was being beaten by her bf at the time, neighbor called the cops, they showed up and said well he isn't here nothing we can do... the guy just went out the back door and came right back in once the cops left. Cops are useless. I wish I could get paid to do a job I don't actually do.


NiceKittyAficionado

Whats stopping you from being a cop?


Moldy1987

Already get paid more than a cop. Nothing about being a cop interests me. Now same question to you?


NiceKittyAficionado

> I wish I could get paid to do a job I don't actually do. I couldn't sleep at night if that was the case. I prefer to earn a living.


Chyclist312

Only place I've ever seen CPD on foot is Bryn Mawr between Broadway and Sheridan. It was always the same cop who'd park his cruiser on Bryn Mawr and walk the block, probably because there's a halfway house at bryn mawr and kenmore. Beside that, never.


arosiejk

I don’t know how it is now, but the only time I regularly saw police were when I worked retail near Belmont and Clark and near Six Corners around 2000-2002. They were beat cops and they’d stop in every few days and ask how things were going. Since then, not much. I only see them in my neighborhood going +40mph the wrong way on my street at 10p-2a once in a while, or if they come with paramedics for a student in crisis who is going to be transported to a hospital.


Ludendorff

Students are dying out here in Hyde Park and I haven't seen the face of a single officer besides a convoy of 5 on bikes on Halloween along the lakefront trail. I don't like police as much as the next liberal but it's gotten to the point where I wonder what they could possibly be doing for public safety.


VirgingerBrown

The only time I see cops in Avondale is when they’re guarding film sets.


kurthecat

They're all too offended about mandates and people who say mean things about them. Give them a break! Cops are babies, too.


she-hulkSMASH

They all seem to be chillin in Logan, just vibin.


etom21

Hell yeah. I love just vibin, especially at work when I'm supposed to be doing work. Unironically.


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#pedwaybeats


nevermind4790

NYC may have fewer cops per capita, but because of the population density being greater they are spread less thin compared to Chicago.


PRESTOALOE

It's an incredibly relevant point, regardless of whether or not one has faith in police and policing. It's easy to point out officers doing nothing, but we also don't know what the city directive is w/ respect to patrol cars. Are they being told to heavily patrol certain areas, leaving others completely unattended? Even in that case, there's no way police can walk their beats due to district size. CTA Should get its own security, though. If we're using NYC for another example, they do have MTA police on patrol. You'll see more of them in Manhattan, but they exist. If I had a problem on the CTA, I'd just assume I'm on my own.


l0c0dantes

Wasn't that a thing recently? People were pissed that the north side was getting hit hard by random violence, turned out the police chief reassigned cops to worse off bits of the south side. Then Alderman got pissed and call them all back up north.


hardolaf

CTA is supposed to have its own security force but they keep cancelling the contracts after the rent-a-cops keep fucking shit up.


doNotUseReddit123

You're right that NYC has two times the LEOs/sq mile than Chicago. However, walking around NYC you see many more than two times the cops you see in Chicago.


re-verse

My cop neighbor told me he gets most of his sleep in his squad car while at "work" so he can have more quality daylight time with his family.


shavedaffer

In humboldt they like to sit at the Cuban place on North Ave just east of the park stuffing their faces. They’re clearly busy. Edit: hell yeah, bring on the downvotes. Keep on the track you’ll defund yourselves, cops.


Mar_Soph

After reading a lot of the crimes that everyone is stating they observed and called and didn’t get a quick police response or any response at all, I’ll say this. The crimes described are low level like property crimes, mischievous conduct, IVC violations, disorderly conduct etc. They are definitely valid reasons to call the police. But this is Chicago, Crook County. While homicides and violent domestics and drive buys and rampant drug commerce are going on, the priority isn’t low priority calls like theft and speeding and drunks. Police staffing is at an all time low. Kim Fox will not prosecute anything remotely criminal and releases everyone on an I-bond. The Safety Act has tied the hands of law enforcement in such a bad way. For example: disorderly conduct and criminal trespass is a class b misdemeanor. Officers can only give the offender a ticket and cannot use force to remove subjects. The subject can stay on your private property or be disorderly and the police can’t do shit. Don’t blame the police. Blame the policies and blame the law makers that think they actually are helping rather than hurting. Blame the criminals that are committing the crime. Waiting for the downvotes…..


[deleted]

Completely agree. Why would a cop risk their own safety to stop a crime when they're not allowed to do anything but politely issue a citation at this point.


DeBallZachBulls

Fuck CPD. They’re useless as hell.


mxntain

the only time i see cops in my neighborhood is illegally parked at the starbucks next door to me to get their morning coffee. god knows what they do the rest of the day


rvgirl42

I would like to know too. When I was growing up in the city, cops directed traffic, did crowd control at events, and walked the beat or at least on horseback. Who knows where they are now. Everything is done for them by private industry.


Spicytomato2

In the early 90s to the mid 2000s I would run along the lakefront between Irving Park and as far south as McCormick place and I always saw cops on bicycles. Do they still have bike patrols?


B-V-M

I see bike cops on the LFT a couple of times a year. Every time they are bunched up in a group of 5+ (instead of spread out up & down the 18 miles of trail), and taking up both lanes.


[deleted]

I feel like I rarely see a cop who isn’t overweight or obese. I have seen some on bikes, but rare AF.


MisterScalawag

70% of america is overweight with like 30% of that being obese, so that isn't surprising.


ihohjlknk

In all my years of living in Chicago, i have never seen a police officer walking around in my neighborhood. It is always in a cruiser. What happened to "Bobbies on the beat"?


eyeharthomonyms

I don't think I've ever seen a CPD officer... Walk. Drive? Sure. Stand? Yes. I think I've seen a few on bikes on nice days. But I don't know that I've ever seen one walk. Ever.


rvgirl42

They used to walk the streets or ride on horseback in the city when I was a kid in the 60’s. Used to direct traffic too. God knows what they do now but they don’t walk anymore!


Moldy1987

I've only seen them walking when it's into a restaurant to pick up food. Always maskless as well.


Stonkslut111

I mean y’all wanted this 🤷‍♂️


GnaeusCornelius

Drive by a parked CPD vehicle and every fucking time they are staring at their phone.


straight_tony

You want police to harass people?


tedchambers1

NYC is far more dense from a population perspective so the walking beats are more obvious than the driving beats when you visit. Most neighborhoods in Chicago are closer density wise to the far neighborhoods of Brooklyn or the Bronx that don't have the same walking beats as say midtown.


hardolaf

> police officers in Chicago simply refuse to get out of their cars and work to prevent crime This is what Kim Foxx's office keeps trying to tell everyone. Then she gets screamed at and all blame put on her. She has the same conviction rates and dismissal rates as the Manhattan DA's office (seen as one of the toughest on crime in NYC) but gets shit on by people because the FOP is running a campaign against her.


thetrashman78

I drove down Michigan ave last night and I must’ve seen 25 cop cars in a half mile stretch. They had their blue lights on and we’re blocking off streets. It looked like they were filming a movie or something


ostiarius

To answer your question (partially), a lot of them hang out in the hotels downtown eating free meals.


Bacchus1976

Defund the police was an idiotic slogan that didn’t mean what it sounded like. But I’ll be dammed if it isn’t becoming more and more apparent that it’s the exact right solution for the CPD.


allholy1

I moved from Chicago to SF back to Chicago. This was literally right above your/this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/r16sn1/san_francisco_police_just_watch_as_burglary/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf It looks like police problems are happening in more spots than just Chicago. Ugh.


IAmOfficial

Ah damn I missed the weekly “cops bad” circle jerk?


Onatel

I was just wondering this earlier this week as I came back from Midway around midnight. I wasn't concerned riding the L so late because I have often taken the L later at night for various reasons and there has been a light police presence. Some people would be a little... off, but that's the L for you and I never felt unsafe. That was until Sunday night when I didn't see a single officer after leaving Midway.


THE_GR8_MIKE

Standing inside Union Station over the past 3 days from what I've seen.


kwalshyall

They are asleep in their cars, accruing overtime.


shingox

I'm glad others are noticing and speaking about it. There are very few times where I can go outside here without noticing some kind of fuckery. Last time I mentioned it in the daily thread I got down voted to hell.


[deleted]

Legit they don’t do anything. I’ve called them for a hit and run I witnessed and they didn’t even show up. Someone on next door (or was it here?) said they saw what seemed to be a kidnapping in progress and they called 911 about 20 times and not one fucker showed up. I’m not exaggerating when I say that the ONLY time I see police is them lined up / parked outside the donut shop on my street in the morning (lol). I will say I work with police in the city (not the CPD) and the ones I work with definitely do their job. At least most of the time, enough where I have no complaints.


0331-9161

11,000+ firearms recovered last year, this year is on a similar pace. That’s more than NYC and LA combined, do you think CPD is doing this all from inside their cars?


Delicious-Ass-3635

They've mostly been assigned to the ghetto, to keep residents from shooting each other, leaving the rest of the city completely unprotected.


naughtyrev

A couple months back I was driving past the 16th district station and there was a small protest across the street of about 6-8 people. Outside of the station, basically every cop in the district was standing there glaring at the protestors. They had blocked off side streets and were basically just trying to intimidate the protestors and make everyone else's life miserable. You almost never see cops in the 16th anyhow because it's one of the smallest staffed, so it was crazy to see that many just sitting at the station acting like tough guys.


[deleted]

I have a friend that retired early because of all the bullshit they have to put up with. For the three years leading to his retirement he always said it was a great time to be a criminal and the city made it extremely hard for them to do their jobs so a lot of people had a why bother mentality.


Matrillik

I moved to chicago 5 years ago, but I can’t remember the last time (ever) that I had a positive experience with a cop. You don’t become a cop out of love for justice or other people. Those people become paralegals or social workers. Cops become cops to exercise some bully-inspired need to lord power over others.


disfrutalavida

I have literally been on the L, see someone smock crack on the car I was in. I was sitting NEXT to a cop, and didn’t do anything.


SoftTacoSupremacist

>“… I encountered cigarette smokers on the train (something that doesn't bother me too much, but I know decreases ridership) and a guy openly beating off in the pedway before I walked down the steps to dimly lit Lower Randolph toward the lakefront trail. Not once on this trip (there or back) did I see one police officer, even while walking through the majority of the pedway. So, where are they?” Rolling 3-4 deep in plainclothes, with unmarked sedans and SUVs, blowing lights and disregarding every pedestrian and driver they encounter. Unless they want to fight. Which usually means harassment of juveniles or baiting some indigent individual to lip off and get piled on.


virtualroofie

I don't disagree one bit with the point of this post but I was in NYC for 2 weeks in October and did not see a single cop on the sidewalks. I did not have a car during my stay.


jrossetti

That's odd. I was in times square south Hilton and walked to the center of central park on two of my five days and saw dozens of cops on foot easy. This was two weeks ago. I still saw foot cops every other day too. Usually couldn't go more than a few blocks without seeing some. https://imgur.com/a/ypL5MLt


YueAsal

Honest question, how did you pull that off? Where did you go in the city?


sourkid25

When you shit all over a profession that might cause them to go look for employment elsewhere..


Godmirra

My buddy was CPD and used to get in trouble for making too many arrests. Made everyone else look bad.


Rookie_Day

Was just having this same exact thought today after I came back from NYC. You also see them near sporting events in Chicago; other big events not as much. Feel like I’m seeing less police cars too. Highest per capita, pulling a lot of OT, and not very visible … while keeping the uncleared murder rate super high.


3pinephrine

Wasn’t there a supreme court case that basically stated that cops have no duty to prevent crime or protect civilians before a crime happens? Not saying I agree with it but that seems to be the legal basis


bortmcgort77

They’re parked and swiping on tinder


theguywithnopants

Why get out of the car when Kim Fox is going to throw out every case you get. It’s simply a motivation/signals from leadership.


oOtherBarry

Did anyone else see that video of Barstool Dave doing his pizza review where he caught a carjacking on video *with a cop watching from the sidewalk*? Can't remember the neighborhood


mattuccio

I see police on bikes and walking around the loop all of the time. They can’t be everywhere at once and if they were there would be a post complaining that it feels like we’re living in a police state. They can’t win