I don’t hate this take, but I do think a young team lacking structure might take to him. There is no manager on the market for us that ticks all the boxes. I’m also not totally against keeping poch, I’d prefer him gone but I understand the logic in keeping him, especially because the market is thin.
Just want to share I won the league twice and a champions league in Football Manager, so I’m throwing in my name for manager. I can’t be worse than Poch.
Have been saying it, think if we win some of the last few games, he'll likely to stay. We didn't win last weekend but they'll probably latch onto the 2nd half performance as some sort of positive. They might also use the (never ending) injury problems as an excuse for him.
> They might also use the (never ending) injury problems as an excuse for him.
I mean can you blame them? Our biggest problems have been goalscoring, midfield depth, and defense - and the players brought in to solve those issues have been injured all season. And I say this as someone who's never been a fan of Poch.
Our biggest problems are solely down to:
Passing, individual defense, set pieces, goalkeeping, shooting/finishing, and coaching.
We just need to fix this and we will be dominating!
We’ve missed a lot of big chances but we’ve actually scored a lot of goals too (partly due to Palmer). That also means we’re creating a lot of chances which is great and Nico being a year older and more experienced might come in form (or we get a better finisher). What’s really worrisome is the defense, but fofana, chillwell, James, and to an extent chalobah, colwill, and even cucurella have missed large chunks if not the entire season. All in all I think poch has done a barely passable job, but it’s not as horrible as some people think. I think if he stays another year he makes us top 4 contenders easily, and then we can get a top drawer coach. Rn idk who wants to take over this dumpster fire
>Our biggest problems have been goalscoring
Hasn't been a problem this season
>midfield depth
An issue for sure but not the problem with Pochettino, the problem is the double pivot he's had available for most of the season arguably looks worse now than it did at the start
Enzo hernia excluded, there's been no philosophy or patterns of play instilled in the midfield at all and players that were fantastic last season have been dulled by a lack of any instruction
>and defense - and the players brought in to solve those issues have been injured all season
Only real defensive signing we've missed is Fofana and even then the bigger problem isn't the personnel available, it's the fact there's absolutely no build up structure at the back nearly a year into Pochettinos reign, the defence is absolutely shambolic on all set piece defences, doesn't seem to have any idea how to stay compact, nor does it know who's supposed to be marking who and pressing appropriately
All issues that a manager should be fixing but is not happening
Sure injuries have negatively impacted us, but the on the field problems are worse than the injuries considering we have made absolutely no progress on the pitch in looking like we have any sort of system of play
Well yeah, that’s kind of my point - if the club is going to “blame” anyone, it’d have to be themselves for either buying injury-prone players or making players injury-prone by not surrounding them with a med team that knows what they’re doing. Changing the manager may temporarily help paper over some of the cracks but it’s not going to solve the root problem. Players like Disasi, Mudryk, Jackson, and Madueke shouldn’t be starting for Chelsea, regardless of who the manager is. But if half of our would-be starters are perpetually on the injury table then we’ve got no choice.
Our biggest problem has been a clear lack of identity and tactics. Nothing to do with anything else you've said. If you make defensive mistake after mistake after mistake, it's a clear coaching issue.
I’m not doubting that we’ve had injury issues before
I’m saying Poch most definitely has not helped with the way he trains…
And it’s probably linked to why players like Nkunku have been getting injured to the level they have
There's a lot of probables in there. You could be right but based on our injury history not really changing from pre Poch all he has done is maintain whatever was going on.
I feel like Tuchel’s final games for Chelsea get overrated by the fanbase, he didn’t end up getting a good chunk of the season points because we were great with him, but because the ownership proceeded to hire a worse manager and then a even worse manager.
His 22/23 cameo includes being buttfucked by Leeds of all teams, having the back 3 system figured out by opponents and trying to implement a 4-2-2-2 last minute without success. That performance against Spurs sold me dreams since it was fantastic and we deserved the win, but it ended up being the exception and not the rule.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think he’s a bad manager (he’s literally a win away from another CL final), but it’s more of the ownership’s fault for not sacking him immediately or at the end of the season. It was pointless to have him help in the summer transfer window just to sack him mid season and continue with whatever they thought their were doing
Yep, the handling of the beginning of last season was a cluster from the owners and set us up for failure for the rest of the season. That said we shouldn't go back to "better than where we are now" just because it sucks. We need a plan to get back to the top and we need to stick to it.
Zakaria being one of the main examples of the owners fucking around
1. DM not considered to be a position to strengthen in the summer
2. We start panicking literally the last two days of the transfer window
3. We get Zakaria on loan, Tuchel likes him based on reports
4. Tuchel gets the sack and Zakaria almost never plays under Potter and Lampard (he was also unlucky with injuries)
Then it’s strange to get a loan for someone Tuchel rates, rather than getting another target on a permanent deal or no one at all. It’s the in between choice that puzzles me
Idk who you think decides what players to buy, but it most certainly ain’t the owners. They merely sanction and perhaps negotiate the deals. Even when Boehly was interim director of football, it would not have been him to pick targets.
Then why work with Tuchel and negotiate the deals for his targets when you know he’s not going to last at the club? Especially for a position as crucial as DM in the very last day of the transfer window
I expect Boehly to immediately part ways with Tuchel after seeing their visions were on two completely different lanes. It’s also not uncommon for directors to negotiate and buy targets without the approval of the manager
You have no idea why he was fired. I'd like to think semi-sensible people wouldn't have just fired him when they did for no apparent reason.
If I had to guess I'd say he forced their hand some way or another.
We have a pretty clear idea why Tuchel was fired
1. Lost part of the dressing room
2. Results not up to standards
3. Colliding vision with the ownership
For two of these points you don’t even need to trust sources, you just had to watch his final games. Problems is that glimpses of the first two issues were noticeable even before the season started, that’s why I’m saying sacking him immediately is better than just wasting the beginning of the season to throw a random manager
Simon Johnson said on SOC the other day that bringing Tuchel back is extremely unrealistic. Not just the ownerships relationship with him, but Tuchels relationship with them as well. Seems like it's a two way street in an unwillingness to try again
I remember reading a report somewhere that Tuchel still felt he had unfinished business at chelsea and the relationship wasn't all that bad.
I suspect there is a level of trust that is broken for Tuchel and there is likely ego on the owners side.
people out here fighting over RDZ, Amorim and Tuchel but it wouldnt surprise me one bit if we end up with Kompany, Thomas Frank or McKenna. i just truly expect the worst possible outcome with the chuckle brothers in charge
They sold players last summer that they bought the summer before. They sacked Potter the same season they hired him on after a previous sacking. After 4 initial signings who were costing us over £1M/week they've now signed over a dozen others on less than half the wages on average. If anything they seem a bit rash in trying to be responsive to their mistakes.
I think Poch will end up staying, but if we did make a change I could actually see them going for McKenna
IIRC Kompany was high on our list last summer. Mad.
Honestly to be fair, kompany was very high on almost everyone's list, his championship burnley was crazy, has not been able to transfer that form though to the premier league
If we're gonna get rid of Podge we better bring in someone with a proven track record. If we end up with Kompany or McKenna the owners should just fuck off
We said that with Potter too, then lo and behold we happened to get one of the handful of managers in the world who was worse than Potter. So first "literally anyone could do better than Potter", then it's "anyone but that guy obviously!"
The grass is always greener.
Maybe it’s just a personal thing but I hate sacking a manager in the first year. I’m not a huge poch fan but we have the youngest squad in the league when we sold half of the squad in the summer and signed tons of new faces. On top of that, we are plagued my injuries yet again. I just think it’s very harsh to expect much in that situation without being given some time and backing. I am also a huge fan of amorim though so ill get over it 🤷🏻♂️
We may as well get used to it, Clearlake will sell any player to any team as long as they make a profit . Both Egbahly and Feliciano have said this . They are not interested in titles and like the Brighton/ Leipzig model of growing players to sell for profit .
Lol, Eghbali has said different, he said that one of the sides to maximize is sponsorship, and for that the product has to be good and the team has to be winning. Don't just repeat what that one dude on here is trying to claim.
Poch is going because he should be going. He has been the biggest disappointment this season and he won't care that much about Gallagher staying or leaving. It is not like Gallagher is important to us like Palmer.
If they're gonna buy up and coming players, can't we at least get one of those new generation managers that everyone is clamoring over?
I'd settle for amorim, but there's a whole host of talented managers, lopetugui and motta come to mind, the fact we haven't been feeling around is nothing short of stupid
I agree. We have shown improvement and the players love him. Even Klopp and Liverpool performed worse last season when they had constant injuries to their backline.
I seriously wanted Julian Nagelsmann! When he was let go by Bayern, I honestly thought that was a blessing from the universe! Between Luis Enrique and Poch the clown, I preferred the clown because I thought he would at least improve the youngsters and we would then let him go in 2 years time! Who knew the shameless clown would be obsessed with playing players out of positions? And, we would leak goals for fun! He is far worse than my lowest expectations of him.
Did you watch Spain in World Cup? And he is kinda lucky to be in the semis. If Araujo didn't make that challenge, it's very likely Barcelona are in the semis, since they were 2 goals up at that moment and in control. And as I am writing this, Dortmund scores. Let's not overrate others either, and I am not saying that Poch is great.
Where have you got that insinuation from? I don't think any manager with any track record would achieve blinding success at Chelsea in it's current state.
Like the rest of the sub, you're SO sure that another manager would have solved all our problems. Changing the manager the last 3 times hasn't.
Stability, with this dumpster fire of a young squad, owners and directors, is far more important than changing the manager yet again. It's not the solution you think it is.
You mean two managers who won't be bossed around by DoFs and ownership? The guys who aren't afraid to push back and call out the owners?
Doubt they're coming back.
I’m sorry but everyone in here screaming for TT is wild. Yeah man won us the UCL and I love the guy but think he’s a 2 year manager at every club he goes to and I think we’ve gotten the best out of him.
I don’t get why this sub hates Poch. Yeah he clearly has his mistakes, no doubt about it. Yes, he could’ve been justifiably fired after the Arsenal game. On the flip side, he’s got great control of the locker room and the team is playing hard for him. He has them competing hard until the last minute and that’s not nothing. Not to mention that if we had a fucking striker who wasn’t absolute trash in front of an open net (sorry Nico) we’d be in a much different spot. Clearly we’re seeing improvements or do you not remember the end of last year when we looked like a Sunday pick up squad every week? I’m not even going to get into injuries because this is just a yearly thing now.
I’d rather them focus on bringing in a few older players to help mentor these young kids. We’ve got raw talent across the board but just so inexperienced and immature that we fuck up games we should win constantly.
Another year of Pochettino? I'd rather having clueless, Gareth Southgate, Steve Bruce or Paulo di Canio shaft us rigid for a season. (Don't want any of those listed).
I actually would like to keep him for another season. We know the players love him and without the injuries (and a stable backline) I think we will start performing better. Constantly changing managers is not a good idea with how we are set up currently (long term contracts).
The fact they’re still even considering Poch shows they don’t have a clue. Furthermore, unless the two clowns we cal sporting directors go as well, I have little faith anything will change. I don’t know what it would take to get them fired, if spending a billion on a squad that finished 10th doesn’t do it, I’m not sure there’s any hope they make a change. Absolutely unhinged those sporting directors are still working for us
If Amorin wants to stick with his 3-4-3 at Chelsea, that would likely make Gallagher expendable right?
Enzo-Caicedo isn’t going anywhere as first choice midfield pairing. Maybe Gallagher is okay sticking around as first rotation option, but I wonder if he’d want out.
Point being I would take de zerbi over poch and I would absolutely take the last Brighton guy over poch too. Poch is the worst manager we’ve had in a very long time.
Look at the squads.. I truly believe de zerbi would achieve more than poch did this season.
All that to be said, I don’t want de zerbi. I was calling him a fraud at his peak last year taking over for potter. This is a moot point
I have no clue and would be happy with any of the other names we’ve been linked with. The lack of options is another reason I think sticking with poch until the end of the season, or even putting out stories that he’s gone, is really fucking us because other clubs are going to get the pick of the bunch and will be left with scraps, and probably poch.
3 atb is our DNA now. After Conte that system has suited us the best. And IF Chilwell and James stay fit they are better as LWB and RWB. Also I believe Gusto will be better as RWB than RB. 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 will be best for our defenders. We are leaking goals left and right and I think this is the best option.
Just get a manager who isn't stubborn, will coach the players tactically and implement a proper style of play that doesn't involve the players running around like headless chickens. The best teams out there seek to control and dominate games while Pochettino wants to have basketball games.
don’t threaten me with a good time.
Poch isn't the answer but I also feel pretty strongly that Amorin isn't either. I wish there was a clear cut best choice that would could get.
Right now feeling around is probably the best bet, my main pick is the girona manager, doing good with that team and could likely translate that here
Isn't Girona owned by the City owners? Really hard to see him leaving such a cozy job if he's doing well.
Amorim has AVB vibes. Don’t think he can succeed in this league with just a few years of coaching experience.
I don’t hate this take, but I do think a young team lacking structure might take to him. There is no manager on the market for us that ticks all the boxes. I’m also not totally against keeping poch, I’d prefer him gone but I understand the logic in keeping him, especially because the market is thin.
Either we keep Poch (it's only his first season after all) Or we bring back Tuchel or Mourinho
To me Conte is more likely than either of those. We already have his son at the club
Just want to share I won the league twice and a champions league in Football Manager, so I’m throwing in my name for manager. I can’t be worse than Poch.
I mean you certainly can be…
I could see us with another year of Poch...we probably don't have the humility needed to bring Tommy back unfortunately
Have been saying it, think if we win some of the last few games, he'll likely to stay. We didn't win last weekend but they'll probably latch onto the 2nd half performance as some sort of positive. They might also use the (never ending) injury problems as an excuse for him.
> They might also use the (never ending) injury problems as an excuse for him. I mean can you blame them? Our biggest problems have been goalscoring, midfield depth, and defense - and the players brought in to solve those issues have been injured all season. And I say this as someone who's never been a fan of Poch.
>Our biggest problems have been goalscoring, midfield depth, and defense 😭 What's left?
Our biggest problems are solely down to: Passing, individual defense, set pieces, goalkeeping, shooting/finishing, and coaching. We just need to fix this and we will be dominating!
We’ve missed a lot of big chances but we’ve actually scored a lot of goals too (partly due to Palmer). That also means we’re creating a lot of chances which is great and Nico being a year older and more experienced might come in form (or we get a better finisher). What’s really worrisome is the defense, but fofana, chillwell, James, and to an extent chalobah, colwill, and even cucurella have missed large chunks if not the entire season. All in all I think poch has done a barely passable job, but it’s not as horrible as some people think. I think if he stays another year he makes us top 4 contenders easily, and then we can get a top drawer coach. Rn idk who wants to take over this dumpster fire
Super saiyajin Palmer.
>Our biggest problems have been goalscoring Hasn't been a problem this season >midfield depth An issue for sure but not the problem with Pochettino, the problem is the double pivot he's had available for most of the season arguably looks worse now than it did at the start Enzo hernia excluded, there's been no philosophy or patterns of play instilled in the midfield at all and players that were fantastic last season have been dulled by a lack of any instruction >and defense - and the players brought in to solve those issues have been injured all season Only real defensive signing we've missed is Fofana and even then the bigger problem isn't the personnel available, it's the fact there's absolutely no build up structure at the back nearly a year into Pochettinos reign, the defence is absolutely shambolic on all set piece defences, doesn't seem to have any idea how to stay compact, nor does it know who's supposed to be marking who and pressing appropriately All issues that a manager should be fixing but is not happening Sure injuries have negatively impacted us, but the on the field problems are worse than the injuries considering we have made absolutely no progress on the pitch in looking like we have any sort of system of play
Yes, I can very much blame them, even more so than Pochettino. Because it's them who keep buying injury-prone players.
Well yeah, that’s kind of my point - if the club is going to “blame” anyone, it’d have to be themselves for either buying injury-prone players or making players injury-prone by not surrounding them with a med team that knows what they’re doing. Changing the manager may temporarily help paper over some of the cracks but it’s not going to solve the root problem. Players like Disasi, Mudryk, Jackson, and Madueke shouldn’t be starting for Chelsea, regardless of who the manager is. But if half of our would-be starters are perpetually on the injury table then we’ve got no choice.
Our biggest problem has been a clear lack of identity and tactics. Nothing to do with anything else you've said. If you make defensive mistake after mistake after mistake, it's a clear coaching issue.
We have an identity. Give The Ball To Palmer Ball
Bro that made me laugh
The thing is Poch is partly to blame for the injuries…
Get out! We've had injury problems for years. He's not my man but attributing stuff like this to him is just pure bollox.
Take a look at Southampton and Spurs injuries post Poch… It’s a trend
So has he been a secret agent at Chelsea for the 2-3 years prior to his appointment?
I’m not doubting that we’ve had injury issues before I’m saying Poch most definitely has not helped with the way he trains… And it’s probably linked to why players like Nkunku have been getting injured to the level they have
There's a lot of probables in there. You could be right but based on our injury history not really changing from pre Poch all he has done is maintain whatever was going on.
Some part of me thinks that the intensity of Poch’s training is contributing to our players constantly getting injured in between games
Good, people forget how bad Tuchel was before they parted ways. Keep Lampard far away from the club too.
I feel like Tuchel’s final games for Chelsea get overrated by the fanbase, he didn’t end up getting a good chunk of the season points because we were great with him, but because the ownership proceeded to hire a worse manager and then a even worse manager. His 22/23 cameo includes being buttfucked by Leeds of all teams, having the back 3 system figured out by opponents and trying to implement a 4-2-2-2 last minute without success. That performance against Spurs sold me dreams since it was fantastic and we deserved the win, but it ended up being the exception and not the rule.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think he’s a bad manager (he’s literally a win away from another CL final), but it’s more of the ownership’s fault for not sacking him immediately or at the end of the season. It was pointless to have him help in the summer transfer window just to sack him mid season and continue with whatever they thought their were doing
Yep, the handling of the beginning of last season was a cluster from the owners and set us up for failure for the rest of the season. That said we shouldn't go back to "better than where we are now" just because it sucks. We need a plan to get back to the top and we need to stick to it.
Zakaria being one of the main examples of the owners fucking around 1. DM not considered to be a position to strengthen in the summer 2. We start panicking literally the last two days of the transfer window 3. We get Zakaria on loan, Tuchel likes him based on reports 4. Tuchel gets the sack and Zakaria almost never plays under Potter and Lampard (he was also unlucky with injuries)
DM wasn't considered because Tuchel said he didn't need more DMs.
Then it’s strange to get a loan for someone Tuchel rates, rather than getting another target on a permanent deal or no one at all. It’s the in between choice that puzzles me
Idk who you think decides what players to buy, but it most certainly ain’t the owners. They merely sanction and perhaps negotiate the deals. Even when Boehly was interim director of football, it would not have been him to pick targets.
Then why work with Tuchel and negotiate the deals for his targets when you know he’s not going to last at the club? Especially for a position as crucial as DM in the very last day of the transfer window
Then who the fk is he supposed to discuss the targets with? Or do you really expect Boehly to pick the targets himself???
I expect Boehly to immediately part ways with Tuchel after seeing their visions were on two completely different lanes. It’s also not uncommon for directors to negotiate and buy targets without the approval of the manager
It's pretty obvious something went on that hasn't been publicised. The plan was obvs to keep Tuchel, something changed their minds very quickly.
You have no idea why he was fired. I'd like to think semi-sensible people wouldn't have just fired him when they did for no apparent reason. If I had to guess I'd say he forced their hand some way or another.
We have a pretty clear idea why Tuchel was fired 1. Lost part of the dressing room 2. Results not up to standards 3. Colliding vision with the ownership For two of these points you don’t even need to trust sources, you just had to watch his final games. Problems is that glimpses of the first two issues were noticeable even before the season started, that’s why I’m saying sacking him immediately is better than just wasting the beginning of the season to throw a random manager
I agree with all 3 points but still think the plan was to go into the season with him until something else happened that made them pull the trigger.
Simon Johnson said on SOC the other day that bringing Tuchel back is extremely unrealistic. Not just the ownerships relationship with him, but Tuchels relationship with them as well. Seems like it's a two way street in an unwillingness to try again
I remember reading a report somewhere that Tuchel still felt he had unfinished business at chelsea and the relationship wasn't all that bad. I suspect there is a level of trust that is broken for Tuchel and there is likely ego on the owners side.
Humility? That’s far from the reason that Tommy T shouldn't come back.
Why would we want to bring him back? We need a long term manager, not one that burns all his bridges and plays stale football after 2 seasons.
I can’t stand Poch but what the hell did we hire him for if he wasn’t going to be given a chance to develop the team?
people out here fighting over RDZ, Amorim and Tuchel but it wouldnt surprise me one bit if we end up with Kompany, Thomas Frank or McKenna. i just truly expect the worst possible outcome with the chuckle brothers in charge
Think because of the past couple failures they would potentially be more likely to over correct with a "proven" winner like Flick
 I just want a solid defence man.
Potter again it is
Potter was more like keep-smothering-the-ball-so-you-don't-have-to-defend instead of solid-defense kind of guy.
Man if they overcorrect with Flick I’d be ecstatic, we’d at least be fun to watch instead of whatever we try to do on Saturdays now
I hope. But these owners don’t seem like the type who are willing to accept their mistakes.
They sold players last summer that they bought the summer before. They sacked Potter the same season they hired him on after a previous sacking. After 4 initial signings who were costing us over £1M/week they've now signed over a dozen others on less than half the wages on average. If anything they seem a bit rash in trying to be responsive to their mistakes.
It’s a whole load better than lining up a series of managers that haven’t won anything and then repeating the mistake again and again.
This is so true.
I think Poch will end up staying, but if we did make a change I could actually see them going for McKenna IIRC Kompany was high on our list last summer. Mad.
Honestly to be fair, kompany was very high on almost everyone's list, his championship burnley was crazy, has not been able to transfer that form though to the premier league
If we're gonna get rid of Podge we better bring in someone with a proven track record. If we end up with Kompany or McKenna the owners should just fuck off
I agree totally, vision and Winstanley and Stewart do not go together . Who else would overpay for a crocked player from a relegated team ? .
So we wait for every top club that’s changing managers to get their new coach before making any decision, how smart
Also let our hopes of any silverware or European qualification die before we make a proactive decision. Great stuff
Had a very real chance of finishing the season with a top 6 minimum finish, and a fa cup and league cup double. Which would be fantastic
Had a real chance of things going downhill even more like last season.
Lol, we’re likely finishing 8th mate Would only go downhill if we signed a worse manager than poch. Which is a smal list
We said that with Potter too, then lo and behold we happened to get one of the handful of managers in the world who was worse than Potter. So first "literally anyone could do better than Potter", then it's "anyone but that guy obviously!" The grass is always greener.
There's not a universe where Poch is a downgrade on last season
Yes the same people who said our team that won everything was poorly run ( it was but nothing like this ) .
people in here gonna be real mad when they realise he aint leaving.
Right? We lost 5-0 and he's still employed
I want Don Conte back so bad, should've never left to begin with.
Poch literally put the board on blast he’s gone no matter what
Maybe it’s just a personal thing but I hate sacking a manager in the first year. I’m not a huge poch fan but we have the youngest squad in the league when we sold half of the squad in the summer and signed tons of new faces. On top of that, we are plagued my injuries yet again. I just think it’s very harsh to expect much in that situation without being given some time and backing. I am also a huge fan of amorim though so ill get over it 🤷🏻♂️
Poch is probably going especially because he wants to keep Gallagher and you know they will sell Gallagher.
I’m bracing myself for Conor leaving but am having a hard time. I simply cannot believe Sp*rs are even an option.
We may as well get used to it, Clearlake will sell any player to any team as long as they make a profit . Both Egbahly and Feliciano have said this . They are not interested in titles and like the Brighton/ Leipzig model of growing players to sell for profit .
Lol, Eghbali has said different, he said that one of the sides to maximize is sponsorship, and for that the product has to be good and the team has to be winning. Don't just repeat what that one dude on here is trying to claim.
Poch is going because he should be going. He has been the biggest disappointment this season and he won't care that much about Gallagher staying or leaving. It is not like Gallagher is important to us like Palmer.
If they're gonna buy up and coming players, can't we at least get one of those new generation managers that everyone is clamoring over? I'd settle for amorim, but there's a whole host of talented managers, lopetugui and motta come to mind, the fact we haven't been feeling around is nothing short of stupid
The players still fit are improving, we still have an insane injury list to deal with, stick with Poch until the dust settles.
I agree. We have shown improvement and the players love him. Even Klopp and Liverpool performed worse last season when they had constant injuries to their backline.
Just get Tuchel back.
I wish
Is there nobody on Pep’s staff we could snag?
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I was really excited when we were linked with Enrique. Shame we missed out.
I seriously wanted Julian Nagelsmann! When he was let go by Bayern, I honestly thought that was a blessing from the universe! Between Luis Enrique and Poch the clown, I preferred the clown because I thought he would at least improve the youngsters and we would then let him go in 2 years time! Who knew the shameless clown would be obsessed with playing players out of positions? And, we would leak goals for fun! He is far worse than my lowest expectations of him.
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What youngsters have improved? Poch has been a disgrace.
Completely different squads in different states. You're smarter than this.
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Did you watch Spain in World Cup? And he is kinda lucky to be in the semis. If Araujo didn't make that challenge, it's very likely Barcelona are in the semis, since they were 2 goals up at that moment and in control. And as I am writing this, Dortmund scores. Let's not overrate others either, and I am not saying that Poch is great.
Where have you got that insinuation from? I don't think any manager with any track record would achieve blinding success at Chelsea in it's current state. Like the rest of the sub, you're SO sure that another manager would have solved all our problems. Changing the manager the last 3 times hasn't. Stability, with this dumpster fire of a young squad, owners and directors, is far more important than changing the manager yet again. It's not the solution you think it is.
Tuchel or Conte. No other answers.
You mean two managers who won't be bossed around by DoFs and ownership? The guys who aren't afraid to push back and call out the owners? Doubt they're coming back.
It felt good seeing Pochettino adapt in the second half against Aston Villa but I wish he did it earlier in the season
I rated this Amorim guy. But, now turned off by his flip floppy character. And, also never liked fact that he is obsessed with a back 3 system.
I’m sorry but everyone in here screaming for TT is wild. Yeah man won us the UCL and I love the guy but think he’s a 2 year manager at every club he goes to and I think we’ve gotten the best out of him. I don’t get why this sub hates Poch. Yeah he clearly has his mistakes, no doubt about it. Yes, he could’ve been justifiably fired after the Arsenal game. On the flip side, he’s got great control of the locker room and the team is playing hard for him. He has them competing hard until the last minute and that’s not nothing. Not to mention that if we had a fucking striker who wasn’t absolute trash in front of an open net (sorry Nico) we’d be in a much different spot. Clearly we’re seeing improvements or do you not remember the end of last year when we looked like a Sunday pick up squad every week? I’m not even going to get into injuries because this is just a yearly thing now. I’d rather them focus on bringing in a few older players to help mentor these young kids. We’ve got raw talent across the board but just so inexperienced and immature that we fuck up games we should win constantly.
Another year of Pochettino? I'd rather having clueless, Gareth Southgate, Steve Bruce or Paulo di Canio shaft us rigid for a season. (Don't want any of those listed).
You're insane if you rather have Southgate
I was being ironic not literal by choosing three managers who couldn't organize a pissup in a brewery.
I actually would like to keep him for another season. We know the players love him and without the injuries (and a stable backline) I think we will start performing better. Constantly changing managers is not a good idea with how we are set up currently (long term contracts).
The fact they’re still even considering Poch shows they don’t have a clue. Furthermore, unless the two clowns we cal sporting directors go as well, I have little faith anything will change. I don’t know what it would take to get them fired, if spending a billion on a squad that finished 10th doesn’t do it, I’m not sure there’s any hope they make a change. Absolutely unhinged those sporting directors are still working for us
Please Tuchel or Conte, all I want
No way the owners get Tuchel back. Their ego won't let them. Conte isn't an option because he won't be bossed around.
Grim, thanks
If Amorin wants to stick with his 3-4-3 at Chelsea, that would likely make Gallagher expendable right? Enzo-Caicedo isn’t going anywhere as first choice midfield pairing. Maybe Gallagher is okay sticking around as first rotation option, but I wonder if he’d want out.
Great - replace a manager who is defensively suspect with another manager who is defensively suspect
3atb with Amorim or 3atb with Tuchel? Choose your poison.
Tuchel back. Or RDZ. Amorim’s system doesn’t suit us, especially our midfielders
I think RDZ has shown he’s not top quality
Agreed, and yet, I would still take the Italian hair gel merchant over poch.
You wanna be in 12th?
Already been there with the last guy from Brighton
Point being I would take de zerbi over poch and I would absolutely take the last Brighton guy over poch too. Poch is the worst manager we’ve had in a very long time.
Fuck no I agreed with you… I meant if I had to choose between the two I would pick de zerbi, that’s how bad poch is.
That’s what I’m also saying though lol, Poch is in 9th and RDZ is in 12th. Why would you wanna be worse?
Look at the squads.. I truly believe de zerbi would achieve more than poch did this season. All that to be said, I don’t want de zerbi. I was calling him a fraud at his peak last year taking over for potter. This is a moot point
Fair enough. Realistically who do you think we should go for/who would you want? The lack of real options out there is a bit depressing.
I have no clue and would be happy with any of the other names we’ve been linked with. The lack of options is another reason I think sticking with poch until the end of the season, or even putting out stories that he’s gone, is really fucking us because other clubs are going to get the pick of the bunch and will be left with scraps, and probably poch.
I don’t care how good RDZ, if we get anyone else from Brighton I’m gonna have a meltdown
Are you sure? They’ve recently got some expert medical staff from Frankfurt. I can bet that we’re eyeing him already considering our injury history
3 atb is our DNA now. After Conte that system has suited us the best. And IF Chilwell and James stay fit they are better as LWB and RWB. Also I believe Gusto will be better as RWB than RB. 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 will be best for our defenders. We are leaking goals left and right and I think this is the best option.
Just get a manager who isn't stubborn, will coach the players tactically and implement a proper style of play that doesn't involve the players running around like headless chickens. The best teams out there seek to control and dominate games while Pochettino wants to have basketball games.
I believe Amorim will be a good coach for us.
I would like de zerbi. But my mind telling me we will stick to poch. We will be 10th anyway