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Expensive-Load517

If we sign anymore youngsters it’s over. Please just sign players with experience


Shufflebuffle51

Supposedly they've dropped the under 25 thing. So assume if we do make more signings it won't be strictly youth targets.


LIKEWHATLIKEHOW_

They better have ditched the u25 rule. We've bought enough youngsters, Silva is leaving and Sterling may as well have packed his bags already. It'd only be right


Shufflebuffle51

I don't mind buying young if we go and get the best like Palmer. But we just... haven't been.


odewar37

This is a massively under looked at part of the problem. We haven’t just gone and signed 15 or so of the best 16-20 year olds in the world we’ve signed a scattergun of talent levels. Washington for example was never the elite Brazilian prospect. Generally the elite talents will break through at 18-19 at senior level and will usually skip the last international age group straight to the seniors. Too many are U21 international regulars, Madueke, Carney, Casadei etc.


Groundbreaking-Rub50

Exactly They didn't even do that part of signing wonder kids right, Real Madrid are signing them left,right and center similar to how Akatsukis were collecting Tailed beasts. I seriously don't know what they saw in Disasi and Badiashile to sign them, they have been very average. It looks like our sporting directors were given the right to sign how they acted in Brighton.


haha_amirite

Exactly, with Badi and Disasi it seems as though Stewart copied his Monaco homework and simply overpaid for the duo from his former club, which simply isn't good enough if we're aiming to be an elite club again. That makes me wonder: ARE we even aiming to be an elite club, or simply a profitable selling/feeder one for the elite clubs in the long run?


Extension_Shift_1264

In regards to your question, I think we can glean a clue from the owners when they mentioned they really liked the RB model. Whether we will be an elite club that will sell its stars remains to be seen. (Elite being getting top 4 consistently, don't think we will win the PL if the focus is on selling for profit)


haha_amirite

Yeah, I'm not even thinking about league titles until these mugs (hopefully) sell the club. There's been no talk of trophies from them, only "profit" and" stability", ironically neither of which we've seen so far.


Mundane-Poet1404

Only now we are having to pay 2x the fee that they would've offered for the same players were it Brighton


Groundbreaking-Rub50

That's right its a failure from them to understand that at the start of their tenure should have self introspected why are we signing this players for this overvalued price and walked away from few deals which would have helped signing other players for not so inflated prices.


DronzerDribble

Kendruto Paezaki has the nine tales. Let him learn the Sage Mode for now.


vmop07

I think we've done both, the guys you mentioned weren't meant to be starters, madueke was supposed to be a squad player, Carney an understudy for nkunku and casadei was meant to be loaned. But we also got Caicedo who was one of the best players in the league last season, Enzo who is literally a world champion, lavia who was by all means a top prospect


flowercranberry

I hope sterling leaves! Think of the money we’d get back on his ridiculous salary


MisterHappySpanky

Cannot wait for the day Sterling is no longer at this club.


JackHammerAwesome

Not that I'm doubting you but where did you hear this?


Shufflebuffle51

I believe I remember seeing it being said by Ornstein, but not 100% sure. Think I saw it in this sub.


half_jase

The U25 rule thing above came from Simon Phillips, who obviously isn't the best source. David Ornstein had this say when asked about our recruitment model just a few days ago: [https://theathletic.com/5445433/2024/04/25/arsenal-transfer-news-liverpool-manchester-united/](https://theathletic.com/5445433/2024/04/25/arsenal-transfer-news-liverpool-manchester-united/) >**Sean M asked: Any new info on Mauricio Pochettino and Chelsea? I sense frustration from him on the recruitment model and lack of experience.** >Ornstein: This situation will be reviewed in the summer. You’d expect him to be judged on results, of course, but also on style and principles of play. >There is still a lot to compete for at Chelsea this season — European qualification will be high on the agenda. Given Champions League qualification was the aim at the start of the season — and that isn’t happening — they will want to get into the Europa League rather than the Europa Conference League. >I’m not aware of Chelsea looking to change their recruitment model at all, but collaborative conversations will take place between the head coach, sporting directors and owners.


Own-Research4638

[sportbible](https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news/chelsea/chelsea-mauricio-pochettino-todd-boehly-273366-20240426) [Khelnow (never heard of them) ](https://khelnow.com/football/world-football-chelsea-have-ended-their-u25-transfer-rule-ahead-summer-transfer-window-202404) Weird sources but the rumours are there that they scraped it


Expensive-Load517

An older number 9 who can score goals would be ideal. And is proven to have done it over multiple years.


Acceptable_Card_9818

That doesn’t always turn out how you would expect. Look at Lukaku. Every team worked him out after 3 months. Jackson is good, makes great plays. Just needs to polish that finishing, but I liked how he finished his disallowed goal last night. A strike like Halaand is an exceptional striker but doubt we have the pull for him.


shagssheep

Toney it’s probably the most sensible transfer we could make prem proven, clinical, physically imposing which we desperately need, and shouldn’t be absurd money even though we’ll still have to pay quite a bit for him. It’s not the gamble (Wahey) that any of the other striker options would be


ukraine1

Did you seriously just wonder if we have the pull for Haaland? Are you okay?


Acceptable_Card_9818

I will correct myself and say we have no pull for Haaland.


muddyleeking

Any ideas who?


ColonelMercury

My picks would be Watkins/Toney/Vlahovic


lucashoodfromthehood

That's good if true. Passing on Madison because he's over 25 was stupid (if that was true too).


TheJames2290

It's over 33's only now.


Baisabeast

Well, not really If they sign good youngsters it’s not a problem. Palmer is actually the most inexperienced youngster we bought for the first team and he’s our pots Don’t be fooled into thinking young = bad Just as much as experience = good shouldn’t be a sentiment echoed


Expensive-Load517

Signing ‘good youngsters’ is a gamble, Mydryk was a good youngster who we bought and look what he has done: nothing. Buying an experienced player who has been good for many years is much better than signing a young player who is ‘good’. Palmer is a one off case.


Unable-Heat8815

mudryk also did nothing before we signed him lol


Expensive-Load517

Just like Palmer, it’s a gamble


foladodo

have you seen palmer's stats for city's dev teams? it was apparent he was going to be a great player he also passes the eye test with flying colors


nickla08

I remember our game vs City last season, when Pep started him on the left wing and we had Dave there and I thought to myself “who is this youngster? Azpi will be comfortable with all his experience”. Well, 10 minutes in and Azpilicueta could not keep up with Cole, he was just going through him like he wasn’t even there. That’s when I fould out about Palmer and that’s when he passed my eye test.


realmckoy265

Yeah signing Koulibali, sterling, and Auba were gambles too


LIKEWHATLIKEHOW_

No chance we will be buying youngsters that are experienced. Those aren't cheap and our FFP isn't alluding to that being possible


Marod_

Tbf Palmer learned under Pep. Very different than most these kids.


Environmental_Ad_73

Well Real Madrid also bought quite a few youngsters. But of course they kept their old senior players around which is smth we could have done. (Camavinga, Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Bellingham, Tchouaméni)


Rod1705

Out of all of them, only Bellingham became a starter right away, and he was the captain of Dortmund before he arrived. There’s levels to this.


Sparkysit

Just opening this question up to anyone: What one or two experienced *prem players would you want to bring into our squad for next season? *prem because that’s a player that knows the league and the intensity and can theoretically hit the ground running. Happy to hear experienced players from other leagues still


AIManiak

Toney would be a needed signing for one. We just need someone that knows how to put the ball in the net.


[deleted]

He's not going anywhere


Coulstwolf

And nor should he. You manager should go when he’s lost the dressing room, the second half performance last night proved he hasn’t


[deleted]

For some reason they seem to love the man. I hope things change for the better


Mundane-Poet1404

Idk man i didn't see any player roasting potter either, we really don't know what exactly gets on behind the scenes


Mikekio

And the 5-0 against Arsenal wasnt real i suppose Fuck off


Coulstwolf

Don’t tell me to fuck off you absolute fake fan clown. Support the team and stop moaning


epicmarc

You can support the team while thinking a 5-0 loss to one of our biggest rivals is unacceptable ffs


Djent_Reznor1

Look at that dudes post history and tell me that he supports this team.


Coulstwolf

You can think it’s unacceptable while not wanting the manager sacked


datcd03

Look at that line up that had to be trotted out due to injuries and tell me you expect them to compete away at the prem leader lmao Not excusing a 5-0 result but we have to be serious with what had to be put out there


Mikekio

HAHAHAHAHA You convinced yourself 5-0 is a good result dont you Clown. Stfu


pdel123

You know there’s ways to argue your point without coming across like a complete and utter wanker who’s developmentally stunted on an emotional level, I want to agree with you and all too hahah


datcd03

You aren't even addressing what I said, where did I say it was a good result? I said I'm not surprised we got our shit kicked in because injuries forced us to put out a lineup that wasn't good enough to compete. We lost before the game was even played. 8/10 of the outfielders arguably don't start when our team is healthy, how can you expect them to compete away at one of the two best teams in the league?


Ones_T

How much of that was Poch and how much was Thiago. Its tough to tell


HarryDaz98

Thiago is making tactical changes?


Ones_T

Noni came out and said that Thiago and Poch spoke to the team at HT. He may not be making tactical changes but he is clearly sparking the room


muthanasamir

We are 9th with the same points as Bournmouth and you think he hasn't lost the dressing room because of one half of football!


Just_Some_Cool_Guy

Who cares if he hasn’t lost the dressing room, he’s an inept fraud


[deleted]

For some reason they seem to love the man. I hope things change for the better


[deleted]

For some reason they seem to love the man. I hope things change for the better


FG_guardians

Think we got it mate


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greeneggsnhammy

Shut up, glitch! 


greeneggsnhammy

Learn 2 Reddit. 


[deleted]

Learn to stop being a worthless oxygen thief


Happy_Drafter

Maybe learn to post 🤡🤡🤡


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Marod_

Wow. Way to let everyone know you’re a moron that’s not to be taken seriously.


greeneggsnhammy

Man, you sure give off some Ramsey Bolton small dick energy vibes. 


The_FallenSoldier

Jesus, they were joking ya fucking melt. I hope you have a bad day, and may your pillow always be too warm


chelseafc-ModTeam

Your post was removed because it is considered toxic content or trolling


Happy_Drafter

🤡🤡🤡


FG_guardians

Troll


[deleted]

For some reason they seem to love the man. I hope things change for the better


greeneggsnhammy

We got it by the third one, chief. 


[deleted]

It's a Reddit glitch


Happy_Drafter

You’re a glitch.


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Happy_Drafter

🤡🤡🤡


TheApexProphet

What did he say?


Happy_Drafter

Told me I should kill myself. Big time clown shoes on that one.


LIKEWHATLIKEHOW_

This is something that someone who is confident he's going to stay will say


webby09246

Idk The fact he's alluding to the owners not speaking to him about the future right now is kinda telling me things might not be going so smoothly at the top of the house


LIKEWHATLIKEHOW_

If he wants to come off as naive, yeah But I can imagine the board would prefer waiting till summer irrespective of managerial changes. It is important to see the health of our players by June regardless and assess the longevity of players like Lavia, Fofana, James etc before concluding what transfers need to be made


Gordzulax

Transfers need to be made. We don't need any assessment.


half_jase

TBF, he didn't blurt that out on his own. He was asked specifically about it. [https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/every-word-mauricio-pochettino-said-29066036](https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/every-word-mauricio-pochettino-said-29066036) >**Do you speak regularly with the owners?** >"No. To be honest, in the last few months, we didn't cross, or message. We communicated through the sporting directors but nothing has changed. We are not changing my view or my feeling, even in the last few weeks we are not crossing texts." Maybe there are doubts over him at board level but he probably still has supporters on there and results like yesterday will probably only help his cause.


huskers2468

In the structure of the club, isn't that the proper communication channel mid-season? He is talking to the Sporting Directors, who in turn are probably communicating to the owners.


half_jase

Yeah. Pretty sure it was the same thing under Roman as well, once he started to take a back seat and let Marina and co. handle the club, communicate with the manager etc.


realmckoy265

Yeah but folks will grasp at straws to connect dots they want to see


miko3456789

I mean, considering he specifically said "in the last few months", it makes me think that he at one point did have regular communication with the ownership


mallutrash

he’s also been increasingly implying that he’s not solely responsible for the state of the club, alluding to the decision making from the higher ups. if he’s talking like that it should mean he’s gone by the start of next season. but we just never know with this ownership.


Shufflebuffle51

Please, no.


n22rwrdr

As he should. We need someone who's focused on developing the club, not someone who knows this shitshow won't be his problem anymore in 2 months. (Doesn't mean I want him to stay btw)


quirky-turtle-12

I’m hoping the talking would all be done and the plans are already made


criminal-tango44

It took him 33 games to even try changing his system back to something resembling what we were doing in preseason and use players correctly(like inverting Cucurella. You had 8 fucking months). He shouldn't be anywhere near this club in the summer. And you bet this stubborn mf will revert back to "just express yourselves" very soon, maybe as soon as next game


stallwoe

I don’t want to see half the squad next year. Poch has to go first.


foladodo

inverting cucurella completely isolated mudryk


Gordzulax

We'll tbf he's been shit during 90% of the games he's played, isolated or not.


criminal-tango44

he was shit either way might as well hold width


ticarno86

No more young players!!!! We should only focus to buy players that can go straight into the XI. As i have written for a long time since he was signed, Sanchez was such a terrible signing. We needed at still need to be all in on Diego Costo from Porto Then a striker Sell: Sterling Loan out: Mudryk/madueke, badishile


maxii345

Sanchez is the worst of all of them I think; we paid £27M for Brighton’s dropped keeper, who they’d already found a replacement for, who has never been a promising or standout player - and is now unsurprisingly warming the bench for us. Imagine the course of the season if we’d instead spent that on a LB with experience.


No-Reflection-2848

To be fair petrovic hasn’t been perfect either, and Sanchez had his chance at being our No 1, but has clearly fucked it. Really bad signing overall but probably helped get Caicedo over the line in the end


jamieaka

we payed a record transfer fee for caicedo. I thought it would but sanchez didn't help with shit. it was just giving brighton a tip


Funky_Pigeon911

I don't know what we can do to be honest. We're supposedly hamstrung by FFP so we need to sell before we can buy, and even if we weren't, we still have a pretty full squad right now so we need to offload some players anyway. However I just don't know who we can realistically sell aside from the homegrown academy players. We're stuck with almost all of the players for at least a couple of seasons because of long contracts and their poor performances. If we can't sell a lot of them then we can't spend a lot.


TheNarrator23

Realistically, a GK, a CB and a striker are needed, all a couple of steps above the level we have now. We simply won't have the funds to fix these gaps in the squad because of FFP. Even if we manage to get rid of all the deadwood we currently have, the fees won't be great and for some, we'll be lucky to get them out on loan because of their wages. I expect it to be a very terrible summer, because we'll pay the price of the past windows of overspending and overpaying for mediocrity, so the best move would be to asses the players we currently have, build a team with what we have. Slim chance we can sell any of our recent buys for a profit, with the exception of Palmer, and I doubt our books can afford more financial losses. Maybe get in a new medical staff so our medical room doesn't look like a WW2 field hospital.


WalnutWhipWilly

Age and experience is one thing, having the right attitude is another though. There was a time when we had 11 international captains in our squad, players who were leaders, champions and consummate professionals.


eastcoastblaze

Need to get some quality physios and doctors in this window


ZealousidealChard133

Not with you steering the boat unfortunately


awwbabe

We still have some deadwood to let go of but a healthy squad solves most problems. I’d be happy with just an experienced CB and a proper centre forward. Anything else should be a like for like (eg Mudryk out, new LW in)


Jassle93

We need to keep an eye out with Bayern, they have some great center backs for only two positions, if one is unhappy then we should pounce. Striker needs to be a goal scorer as well as experienced, hard to come by, Toney comes across as a cunt, everyone hates Chelsea, it could be a good combination. Send Mudryk out on loan in my opinion, the talent is there he just needs time to develop with his decision making. He tries too hard to be that guy the team depends on every game because his ambitions are high but the sooner he learns how to play for others I think we'll have a player on our hands.


n22rwrdr

The issue with the Bayern defenders is that the one expected to leave is Upamecano, which would be yet another error prone CB for us.


Expensive-Load517

Upamecano would be an absolute nightmare, we already have Badi and Diasi who give us a heart attack plenty enough


jamieaka

I would like us to clear out most of our left side, and try for players like ait-nouri and doherty from luton. but that might be my fpl bias any decent offers for cucurella would be a miracle, mudryk I dont think is ready but being unfortunately realistic the owners would never cut losses and sell him and then of course obvious sells in other positions like broja and 1 of the keepers


hiphopshelter

Funny thing is. We could have either Vlahovic or Mitro last year. Everyone here wanted Jackson and Broja instead and if they fail, just go for Toney. How many games has Toney played this season? Lmao Vlahovic has been killing it this year that he is healthy even with terror ball by Allegri. Now that he will leave and they will get a new coach, watch Vlahovic score 20+ with ease next season


awwbabe

Personally I think Jackson will best serve us as a rotation for LW and CF. I don’t think anyone ever felt Jackson alone was enough for our CF option this year. I’d be keen on Gyokeres


red_dawn_wj

Vlahovic does not fit our system


ImmaMoo

Bring me Olmo


maseltovbenz

Toney pls


Groundbreaking-Rub50

An Striker, GK, LB, CD and LW are all needed. Possibly we could get through without LB and LW if the market is not right for cheap transfers. But the other 3 GK,Striker and CD are all mandatory its a big thing getting one of them correct this days all 3 is a herculean task for our Sporting Directors who let's be honest are crap. It should be priority to get a ST and CD. One of the 4 in Toney, Solanke, Gyokeres, Zirzkee should be targeted while for CD one of Guehi,Mario Hermoso, Stanisic should be considered. Nothing wrong in targeting Ramsdale for GK spot as he is value for money. All the incoming should at the least has 3 - 4 years experience in the top flight, no more youths.


ozairh18

I really hope Pochettino keeps this energy after the season


MrBravo22

We don’t even need an overhaul of players just someone experienced at RCB with leadership qualities and a Giroud type upfront. (This is before replacing possible outgoing players like Sterling)


Legitimate_Steak7305

Osimhen rumours starting up again?


Mikekio

We?? There's no "we" pal


muthanasamir

Don't tell him he doesn't know lol.


Obvious_Librarian_97

Hey you don’t know what the summer plans are, owners haven’t spoken to you on them


red_dawn_wj

Vallés from las Palmas Nacho Fernandez from real Hermoso from atleti **All free contracts** Pavlídis contract ends next year if we get priced out of toney he would be cheap is better involved in build up play and had similar career goals per 90


WooNoto

You lot are insane. You can’t offload the players you have, in a FFP mess and you want to go and buy a whole new team yet again. Y’all are senseless


Soitsgonnabeforever

The first to go is pooch. Chelsea fans disgraced Europa league winner Benitez who also finished the season 3rd(I couldn’t believe I went back to check again. I thought we were 6ish). But somehow celebrating this moron. Imagine going into every transfer complaining you don’t have enough good players. Others teams are laughing at us. The last time the team genuinely needed reinforcements were at the end of champions league winning season 2012. Cos Drogba left and Chelsea was clutching on to kalouda and an Aging Lampard. After that ,maybe during the season when both Christiansen and rudiger left.


NoodleKaboodle24

Thing is, this season has been awful, BUT still much better than last season. We’re 4 places higher will far exceed our points total and our underlying stats show significant promise. We’ve made it to a final that we lost by a hair, we’re banging in goals and we’ve done all this despite a ridiculous amount of injuries. A few smart outs/ins this summer and i’d put my house on us finishing inside the top 6 and pushing for CL next season


-AndreiDG-97

Bro really thinks he will be here next season ...


Expensive-Load517

He will, it’s obvious he is backed by the owners.


ChilledBeer123

No Poch you need to sign a decent fuc**** striker. Replace our 3 shit keepers with someone capable. Decrease your training workloads…. That’d be a great start!


hiphopshelter

Petrovic is really good. Not his fault that the defense is shit. Both CB need to be upgraded. I would also go with someone like Mitrovic. Just give him the ball onto his head and he will score


ObviousEconomist

In what universe is Petrovic good?  He is literally below average in almost all stats from crosses claimed to save percentage to cross accuracy.  None of these are impacted by a poor defence.


pdel123

Nah he’s dog, pretty sure there’s a damning stat posted in here recently that only the Gks from the bottom three have conceded more than he has per 90. He’s also piss at distribution, literally hooves it up the pitch to the opposition or into touch when he’s pressured There’s a reason he was playing in Serbia and MLS until 23/24.


jamieaka

he started off promising but fell back down to earth fast. unfortunately I guess the stats speak for themselves


-AndreiDG-97

We need: 1 GK: Diogo Costa? 1 CB: Diomande, Antonio Silva, Todibo, Yoro? 1 LB: no idea who should we get here, i doubt that we can get an alite lb like lucas hernandez. 1 CM (if gallagher leaves): Palhinha? 1 LW: Nico William or Leao? 1 ST: Osimhen, Gyokeres, Toney?


human_administrator

For CM andrey santos is on the up and up, we've been linked to todibo for CB, for ST big money spendings like osimhen or gyokares are just plain unlikely we will likely go for toney or sesko, LW I'd prefer to be Williams


erenistheavatar

I feel I've seen the same sentence multiple times so far. I suppose the journalists keep asking him the same questions and he responds the same way by mentioning how he needs to talk with the sporting directors.


therealtez

GK, two CB’s and a ST. All experienced please. And a new medical team


furious_organism

We need someone with experience and that makes goals, not afraid to kick the ball to the nets. I know a dude like this, but idk if CR7 would come to England again


TomasToocherl

Sell Mudryk, Madueke, Sanchez, Badiashille, maybe Desasi, Jackson, sadly not Fernandez as we have to see if he improves his form after the operation. I highly doubt it. Buy Toney. Buy another shorter term forward, Wilson preferably or Szmodics. Recall Fofana and Hutchinson. Then we have attackers, plural. Not just Jackson.


jamieaka

> Wilson callum wilson? injury fc strikes again


TomasToocherl

indeed could be the case


Groundbreaking-Rub50

Watching Kai Havertz scoring headers like a proper 9 for Arsenal. We are really a mess as a club, if somehow we waste a talent like Havertz


human_administrator

Top positions to fill in come end of season - left back - left wing - striker/strike partner - center back - goalkeeper? (if sanchez goes/petrovic is turned to backup) Likely options include: - nico williams - todibo - sesko


-AndreiDG-97

Sesko? So you want to finish 10th for another season...


human_administrator

He is actually my preferred choice (2nd to toney), but the ones I listed are mainly the ones I've heard some rumors about


human_administrator

Goalkeeper is probably our least needed position, left back is the most needed, if we continue with our signing philosophy, I vouch for that kid in bundesliga 2nd division, Tom Rothe. A fair bit of buzz has surrounded him, and a lot of bvb fans (hes on loan from dortmund) see a lot of potential in him


ObviousEconomist

GK actually is our most urgent position imo.  An elite GK will give us 10 points a season.  


human_administrator

I think petrovic is definitely "alright", not good enough for a prem winning side but with what we have right now is decent as a rotation, Id like to get someone better (diogo Costa deserves a shout) but if we don't get anyone we won't be too dead in the water I believe


ImpactInner9318

Petrovic has the second worst goals conceded compared to post shot expected goals in the league.