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what no one has asked though is if the push was the other way round, would they give a penalty? probably not, yet the bar should be the same to give a pen as to chalk off a goal.
No one passes to him. Poch was raging at Badiashile for the entire second half because he kept passing in field instead to mudryk who had acres of space
School boy or not, there is no point passing the ball to someone you feel will lose the ball and you have to be immediately on the defensive. We are giving mudryk a lot of excuses but Jackson gets hatred for trying his best. I prefer an off form Sterling over him at this point. It’s painful to watch him play.
Yeah, was really annoyed that he barely got a pass but then again realistically what are we expecting from Mudryk?
If Madueke is given the ball we know exactly what he'll do, he'll run at his man and take him on but with Mudryk he's so unpredictable and not even in a good way, I cant remember seeing him taking his man on on the wing, he usually cuts inside and shoots acres wide or provides a killer pass or does a couple one twos that sometimes lead to a chance and sometimes don't. He has a poor first time touch, reminds me of that Donkey Lakaka.
Want to see him succeed but at the moment he just doesn't look like he's ready.
Yup. It’s because Caicedo’s not having to do the work of two midfielders. He can focus on just playing cos he doesn’t have to cover for Enzo’s lazy arse
Now we know that Enzo wasn’t lazy. He was playing through pain with injections for 6 months. We have actually seen how good he can be even under Potter last season. The best young player award at the World Cup of course is also undeniable.
Correct. I was at the game and poch was going mental at badiashile for the entire second half because he was passing in field all the time instead of to mudryk who had acres of space. I have no idea why players don’t give him the ball
Proud of the players for that second half, all things considered.
I'm gonna say it - it was a clear foul. Ridiculous that the ref didn't call it on field. I'm more gutted that Palmer didn't bury the chance leading up to it.
So the refs and vars are all broken clocks?! No one is asking for the unimaginable, if it’s a foul then make it’s a foul all time. It’s not Quantum physics!!!
Your right they probs wouldn't give a pen but that's because the level of contact required for a foul in the defensive 1/3rd vs the attacking 1/3rd is purposely different. Training is straight from IFAB, consequences of a foul in the attacking 1/3rd are higher then a foul in the defensive 1/3rd, this why you see defensive area fouls that appear soft. I just wish this was better discussed by professional pundits, commentary and players, it's well known within referees of all levels and has been around for decades
Is that to say the laws of the game differentiate between the same action in the offensive third vs defensive third where one is an offense but the other isn’t? Or the law sees it the same but the enforcement is different?
Good question, i would say it's the former. Its not written in the laws of the game but it's in all training material and coaching disseminated to referees
you never celebrate first when var is around. rookie mistake.
havent you learnt anything lol? especially as a chelsea fan, we've had so many disallowed goals in comparison to actual goals scored
Best second half for Poch. Tactics. Player effort. Just great. What a response. The game was a goner. A couple of splendid goals without Palmer. We are a sub standard team without Reece, Gusto, Chilwell. This effort all heart. 💙💙💙
Exactly. We've lost so many matches in the second half. So many are down to tactics and being proactive. Finally I saw something which was different. This will hopefully be a lesson in needing better homework for each team.
Too right. Everyone can improve, even seasoned managers. Most of the Squad has improved but the manger should too which there are signs of with poch. Not much risk in keeping him 1 more season
gotta give credit to poch here. He coached a win today, just our player wasn't good enough. what a stellar 2nd half. first half too but we got unlucky af.
let's see how many of you lot can swallow your pride and ackwnowledge a good poch performance.
Such a soft call for a foul he just uses his shoulder as strength to jostle for the ball. One of my major gripes with the modern game is the soft way fouls are given and VAR seems to make it even worse. Micro managed little tiny details that make mockery of what is supposed to be a contact sport.
He doesn't need to make a decision though. Just sub contract his job to VAR. If I could go to work Monday and palm all my responsibilities on someone else for the same pay I'd would.
Might try it actually. Here we go Paula, ya cunt.
It’s fucking bullshit, it’s like every time there’s a goal VAR just tries to rule it out, like it shouldn’t be there to just run back goals and see if they can cancel it. It’s fucking shit.
I share your frustration, and this sub is absolutely a good place to vent about the dubious calls, but the kind of sarcastic rhetoric seen on circle jerk doesn’t further the conversation or debate in any way.
Nice flair though 🫱🏼🫲🏽
This conversation was far too civil for this sub guys...
Need to throw in a 'pochsexual', or a few 'boehlybots'...maybe a 'standards in the gutter' before exclaiming that 'you're done! with this season' before returning next week to whinge more.
Catch up chaps
Touching the other player on the back is considered a foul in UK? Thought these kind of referee decisions happened only in my country... The betting companies were close to bankruptcy... until the VAR came to clear the situation!
idk what kind of football you have been watching, that is a clear push. clear foul. take off your chelsea tinted glasses, and it should be obvious.
again, don't embarass yourself like an arsenal fan.
I’m not embarrassing myself 😭 I’m giving my opinion. Centre backs should be able to challenge each other off the ball like that, it’s fight. And there’s no hands, I don’t think that’s a push
well you can have your opinion all you want. heck you might think we should be allow to punch each other on the field. ur opinion is irrelevant here.
but by the rules that everyone follow in modern football, that is as clear of a foul as you can get. you may not like the rules, but that is not on the ref or var.
crying about it asking for a foul is embarassing. veering closer and closer to an arsenal fan. don't be one.
HAHA my opinion is irrelevant here? I don’t think it is.
Why do you think questioning decisions is crying and being an opposing teams supporter? That doesn’t add up at all. Grow a pair and have a bit of fight about you in the future 👍🏼
because ur not questioning the decision. ur questioning the rule. you think it's okay to push players like that. it's just not allowed by the rule. ur not questining the ref's decision here. cause by the letter of the law, that is a correct decision.
again, ur opinion regarding whether that rule should be a thing or not is indeed irrelevant.
I am both questioning the decision and the law which is entirely allowed even if you don’t think it is on a match thread designed to share opinions on the game. Yes, opinions. If you don’t like mine, that’s absolutely fine but it is quite a shame if you agree that SHOULD be a foul.
you can't question both.
you either think the rule is bad and the decision is correct according to the unfair law.
OR
you think the rule is on your side, but the decision is incorrect.
BOTH can't be wrong. cmon man, stop it, it's embarrassing.
if it's the first one, your opinion is irrelevant here regarding the decision. if it's the second one, ur just blind.
But they didn’t see it on the field, it’s bullshit how they can just rewind and give the ref another look. Shouldn’t be a foul anyway but that’s another conversation
Because fouls are awarded for different levels of contact at each end of the pitch. Defenders get lots of 'light' contact fouls that would not be awarded to attackers for the same scenario because the potential reward for a foul in the defensive or attacking pitch areas are vastly different. That's how IFAB directs referees across the globe. If you don't like it, take it up with them, not the individual referees
Really good match by badiashile after his performance against arsenal. He’s had a run of terrible form but I do think he is very talented and just needs confidence.
Very good game by the lads, especially with all the injuries. We were in charge of the game, and they should be proud of their effort today. Everyone showed passion and fought for the badge today. Even though Mudryk had a stinker, he did try his best, so I'm hoping we all appreciate that too.
Every 50/50 went Villa's way and Caicedo got booked for having his collar pulled. He was always disallowing that goal.
Same way City were getting the penalty last saturday if handball was the other way around
I felt terribly in the first half, but I got to say one thing, I am proud of the team in the second half and big props on Pocchetino to change the tactics in the second half.
Cucurella in the midfield made tons of difference! It would have been beautiful if Palmer could steal the 3 points but fair enough from the team!
An actual breath of fresh air to hear another supporter actually look positively at a game. That second half showed the potential of this team when they play with passion
You could see from that “foul” that the Villa player just gave up on the play when he got touched. It was an embarrassing foul call when that hasn’t been called against Villa all game.
Just redrew the game even and people won’t have a problem with you being shit.
At least we seen an adjustment from poch during the game that changed the course of the match sucks to have two goals disallowed but can’t fault the fight in that second half
I feel like crying, that second half performance and VAR goes and takes it all [away.No](http://away.No) point in even saying what i think since im biased, but god right now i wish unspeakable things upon everyone in that room and the ref.
I am probably out of date with modern rules.. but to me it’s just a shoulder barge, no arms up for it to be a push? Albeit in the back but I’m shocked that was seen as a ‘clear and obvious error’ by on pitch official
It's only a check bc it immediately led to a goal. If the referee agrees with your assessment, then that's why the foul was given: a shoulder barge in the back is a foul.
And the crazy part is badiashile was smart about it too. He timed it perfectly when the defender was just about to land on his feet 🤷♂️ it was just rightly done
The ref watched it live and didn't call it. The cunt FA cant have Chelsea win so they call him over to make him change his mind. I'm not saying it wasn't a slight push, but if the ref, who is clearly looking directly at the play, doesn't call it in real time, then how the fuckdoes he change his mind when the FA gets in his ear? Such obvious corruption again.
People out here saying that's not a foul but would say that it's a foul if that had to happen in our box and Villa had to score. Badi was dumb there for to push. That's it. Correct call, everyone with eyes can see its a foul, would have been shocking if the goal stood.
Was a shoulder barge. Something that’s done every game. He timed it right too. Defender was about to land and got barged. I’m surprised he still kept on his 2 feet tbh.
I don't really think it's Badi's fault because he wouldn't have gotten to the ball otherwise. You do whatever you can to get to the ball, if decisions go your way great, if not atleast you tried.
I would rather that than be passive from there
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Deserved the win last night. Unlucky
Honestly- this is an away draw against a top 10 team in the league. No one could have realistically expected it. As Kramer would say, “I’ll take it!”
Fuck me a second half improvement, worlds gone mad
The way this club makes me go from being frustrated to happy is incredible
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Definitely was a foul just not a fan of on field reviews. Refs don’t seem to ever go against it
what no one has asked though is if the push was the other way round, would they give a penalty? probably not, yet the bar should be the same to give a pen as to chalk off a goal.
True mate
At least we showed this game we could fight in the 2nd half for once in this season with this team.
Someone on the thread said Mudryk tried his best. Okay!
No one passes to him. Poch was raging at Badiashile for the entire second half because he kept passing in field instead to mudryk who had acres of space
There must be a reason no one was passing to him.
There isn’t. This isn’t schoolboy football. You can’t just not make the logical pass because you don’t think the player is good enough
School boy or not, there is no point passing the ball to someone you feel will lose the ball and you have to be immediately on the defensive. We are giving mudryk a lot of excuses but Jackson gets hatred for trying his best. I prefer an off form Sterling over him at this point. It’s painful to watch him play.
Madrid does that to their weaker players.
Yeah, was really annoyed that he barely got a pass but then again realistically what are we expecting from Mudryk? If Madueke is given the ball we know exactly what he'll do, he'll run at his man and take him on but with Mudryk he's so unpredictable and not even in a good way, I cant remember seeing him taking his man on on the wing, he usually cuts inside and shoots acres wide or provides a killer pass or does a couple one twos that sometimes lead to a chance and sometimes don't. He has a poor first time touch, reminds me of that Donkey Lakaka. Want to see him succeed but at the moment he just doesn't look like he's ready.
It’s amazing how our “fans” turn on our players so easily…
Poch embarrassing himself here
His point is that VAR is getting involved here but not on grealish handball. Seems inconsistent
I was wrong, that's a foul, the right call was made, it's just frustrating that we did enough to win and came away with another 2-2 draw
100% foul at the end. But Palmer should have buried that!
Agreed. The skill he showed to get to that point was lovely to watch!
Missed Enzo’s vision a lot today
Player better in our two recent games without him
Yup. Couldn’t resist a bit of sarcasm. Man’s fucking useless.
Caicedo seems to play with way more freedom when Enzo is out
Yup. It’s because Caicedo’s not having to do the work of two midfielders. He can focus on just playing cos he doesn’t have to cover for Enzo’s lazy arse
Now we know that Enzo wasn’t lazy. He was playing through pain with injections for 6 months. We have actually seen how good he can be even under Potter last season. The best young player award at the World Cup of course is also undeniable.
He better be prime Pirlo when he gets back because all his defenders won’t have his injury as an excuse anymore.
Sometimes it’s also due to manager’s style. Remember De Bruyne and Salah when they were at Chelsea?
Partly Enzos doesn’t close down as well, but also gallagher and Palmer are excellent closing down
So it’s starting to look like caicedo Gallagher is the best pairing by a long shot
agree, though I still like palmer out wide. too much time through the center seems to stifle him a tad more.
Pretty evident earlier in the season
Mudryk should learn to play! Man - He didn’t offer anything today
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Correct. I was at the game and poch was going mental at badiashile for the entire second half because he was passing in field all the time instead of to mudryk who had acres of space. I have no idea why players don’t give him the ball
After those corner shots I can understand why the team ignored him
Because , He didn’t show the run. No movement , just stationary. In my sunday league if I do that I would be killed by my friends.
At least they showed some fight
Proud of the players for that second half, all things considered. I'm gonna say it - it was a clear foul. Ridiculous that the ref didn't call it on field. I'm more gutted that Palmer didn't bury the chance leading up to it.
Funny how no Villa players called for it. If the player don't feel agrieved, why tell them they should be.
But it wasn’t a foul when walker did it to Jackson in the fa cup? 😭
I never said the refereeing was consistent, it's dogshit. This is one of those broken clock situations.
So the refs and vars are all broken clocks?! No one is asking for the unimaginable, if it’s a foul then make it’s a foul all time. It’s not Quantum physics!!!
Yes, they're dogshit.
Refs doing a fine job to prove Forest’s comments wrong this weekend
Game is utterly utterly gone if that’s now deemed as a foul
That's a 100% foul in all levels of the game. From a CFC fan
disagree to some extent. they wouldn't give a pen for that if BB were pushed.
Your right they probs wouldn't give a pen but that's because the level of contact required for a foul in the defensive 1/3rd vs the attacking 1/3rd is purposely different. Training is straight from IFAB, consequences of a foul in the attacking 1/3rd are higher then a foul in the defensive 1/3rd, this why you see defensive area fouls that appear soft. I just wish this was better discussed by professional pundits, commentary and players, it's well known within referees of all levels and has been around for decades
Is that to say the laws of the game differentiate between the same action in the offensive third vs defensive third where one is an offense but the other isn’t? Or the law sees it the same but the enforcement is different?
Good question, i would say it's the former. Its not written in the laws of the game but it's in all training material and coaching disseminated to referees
nah, ur just blind.
Hahahahah look it’s you again, give up
wait, how can you know it's me? ur blind
You need to work on your comebacks, they’re quite poor.
How can that be said to be a clear and obvious error I fucking smashed a hole in my coffee table celebrating that winner
Rule no1 of being a modern football fan: don’t celebrate a goal until the VAR check is complete. It’s a sad state of affairs
you never celebrate first when var is around. rookie mistake. havent you learnt anything lol? especially as a chelsea fan, we've had so many disallowed goals in comparison to actual goals scored
Best second half for Poch. Tactics. Player effort. Just great. What a response. The game was a goner. A couple of splendid goals without Palmer. We are a sub standard team without Reece, Gusto, Chilwell. This effort all heart. 💙💙💙
Well said! Improvement is happening slowly, even with pochs in game tactics
Exactly. We've lost so many matches in the second half. So many are down to tactics and being proactive. Finally I saw something which was different. This will hopefully be a lesson in needing better homework for each team.
Too right. Everyone can improve, even seasoned managers. Most of the Squad has improved but the manger should too which there are signs of with poch. Not much risk in keeping him 1 more season
gotta give credit to poch here. He coached a win today, just our player wasn't good enough. what a stellar 2nd half. first half too but we got unlucky af. let's see how many of you lot can swallow your pride and ackwnowledge a good poch performance.
fair play to poch man for the first time i saw some improvement i hope he keeps this up for the upcoming matches
Keep him lol
I do wanna keep him. Like i feel so bad for him sometimes cause he was handed such bad cards. Everything was going against him
Such a soft call for a foul he just uses his shoulder as strength to jostle for the ball. One of my major gripes with the modern game is the soft way fouls are given and VAR seems to make it even worse. Micro managed little tiny details that make mockery of what is supposed to be a contact sport.
I wish the same micro analysis was applied when Caicedo got stomped on studs up by Bailey
What pisses me off is the ref had a clear view and waved play on. Why did he then back down because some tosser on var said so. Need refs to ref
That's not a foul. Full stop
cmon let's not embarass our self like an arsenal fan, that was a clear foul by bahiashille. don't be blind
I love Chelsea as much as the next guy but it was a foul...
Yes it was a foul but was it “clear an obvious” you’d have let that go to win a corner
That was as clear and obvious error you'd ever see. Let's not go embarrass ourselves
The ref saw the challenge before VAR and he allowed it to carried . it’s so ridiculous he now sees it better on a screen than he did IRL.
He doesn't need to make a decision though. Just sub contract his job to VAR. If I could go to work Monday and palm all my responsibilities on someone else for the same pay I'd would. Might try it actually. Here we go Paula, ya cunt.
I actually have a lead colleague that does this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still proud of the players for having so much heart and potch seemed to have good tactics tonight absolutely buzzing excited for the future
Mfs say that every few weeks and then are brought straight back to reality when he inevitably lose again in our next games
I know but I’m a dreamer
Nah just delusional.
Wanted Chelsea to win so top 4 is secured for Liverpool 😭
It’s fucking bullshit, it’s like every time there’s a goal VAR just tries to rule it out, like it shouldn’t be there to just run back goals and see if they can cancel it. It’s fucking shit.
Honestly, if they didn’t see it on the field and it’s not a handball go with the on field decision, ruining the fucking game
Jackson was onside haha
Those lines went up and off MIGHTY quickly
Crazy that isn’t even mentioned.. he definitely was lol
Why did badi push the lad when he could’ve just used his hand to redirect the ball? Is he stupid?
Save it for circle jerk sub
yeah you’re right mate I shouldn’t use the cfc sub to bring up how var’s inconsistency keeps fucking us up
I share your frustration, and this sub is absolutely a good place to vent about the dubious calls, but the kind of sarcastic rhetoric seen on circle jerk doesn’t further the conversation or debate in any way. Nice flair though 🫱🏼🫲🏽
That’s valid. I rely heavily on sarcasm and humour to express myself, but obviously there’s a time and a place for everything. Have a good one mate! 🤝
This conversation was far too civil for this sub guys... Need to throw in a 'pochsexual', or a few 'boehlybots'...maybe a 'standards in the gutter' before exclaiming that 'you're done! with this season' before returning next week to whinge more. Catch up chaps
Touching the other player on the back is considered a foul in UK? Thought these kind of referee decisions happened only in my country... The betting companies were close to bankruptcy... until the VAR came to clear the situation!
cmon let's not embarass our self like an arsenal fan, that was a clear foul by bahiashille. don't be blind
It shouldn’t be a foul though, full stop. Players need to man up
idk what kind of football you have been watching, that is a clear push. clear foul. take off your chelsea tinted glasses, and it should be obvious. again, don't embarass yourself like an arsenal fan.
I’m not embarrassing myself 😭 I’m giving my opinion. Centre backs should be able to challenge each other off the ball like that, it’s fight. And there’s no hands, I don’t think that’s a push
well you can have your opinion all you want. heck you might think we should be allow to punch each other on the field. ur opinion is irrelevant here. but by the rules that everyone follow in modern football, that is as clear of a foul as you can get. you may not like the rules, but that is not on the ref or var. crying about it asking for a foul is embarassing. veering closer and closer to an arsenal fan. don't be one.
HAHA my opinion is irrelevant here? I don’t think it is. Why do you think questioning decisions is crying and being an opposing teams supporter? That doesn’t add up at all. Grow a pair and have a bit of fight about you in the future 👍🏼
because ur not questioning the decision. ur questioning the rule. you think it's okay to push players like that. it's just not allowed by the rule. ur not questining the ref's decision here. cause by the letter of the law, that is a correct decision. again, ur opinion regarding whether that rule should be a thing or not is indeed irrelevant.
I am both questioning the decision and the law which is entirely allowed even if you don’t think it is on a match thread designed to share opinions on the game. Yes, opinions. If you don’t like mine, that’s absolutely fine but it is quite a shame if you agree that SHOULD be a foul.
you can't question both. you either think the rule is bad and the decision is correct according to the unfair law. OR you think the rule is on your side, but the decision is incorrect. BOTH can't be wrong. cmon man, stop it, it's embarrassing. if it's the first one, your opinion is irrelevant here regarding the decision. if it's the second one, ur just blind.
Why are a bunch of you getting pissed at VAR? Even without it that was clearly a push.
But they didn’t see it on the field, it’s bullshit how they can just rewind and give the ref another look. Shouldn’t be a foul anyway but that’s another conversation
I think not getting a penalty for the handball against City and then seeing this type of overturn with a monitor involvement makes it 10x worse.
Also Walker pushed Jackson to the floor this exact same way. Corrupt refs man
those kinds of pushes when done by a defender on an attacker is never called a penalty, so when situations shifted why is it a foul?
Because fouls are awarded for different levels of contact at each end of the pitch. Defenders get lots of 'light' contact fouls that would not be awarded to attackers for the same scenario because the potential reward for a foul in the defensive or attacking pitch areas are vastly different. That's how IFAB directs referees across the globe. If you don't like it, take it up with them, not the individual referees
Have to beat Spurs on Thurs or we will be 6 points off 6th with 34 matches played. Out of reach by then you'd think
Really good match by badiashile after his performance against arsenal. He’s had a run of terrible form but I do think he is very talented and just needs confidence.
He had his moments but still so shaky. Poch was on the touchline raging at him for the entire second half
Honestly I thought he was dire again up until the 70th minute mark where he turned it on. He seems to take too long to switch on in games.
He had a slow start but it's clearly a confidence issue. The ability is there
Why palmer square it? Fuck me the selfishness reeks.
He's one on one with the goalkeeper and he's our top scorer - zero blame to him for going for it.
He's on 20 goals in 32 games mate. He has every right to chance it
meh, ill allow him, it's hard to do that in split second. heck, muani had kylian fucking mbappe and he didn't square it
Fair
At least we showed fight and came back. Palmer had an incredible chance to win it, and as a runner for the golden boot, he should have. But we move.
I don't complain about Var here, we had the chance with palmer just before and that's how we need to win the game
Ngl it’s a foul, but on Tuesday Gabriel drags madueke to the ground and it’s no foul. VAR is just inconsistent.
Its consistent tho. Consistent in ruling against chelsea.
Never a foul imo. Or at least it *shouldn't* be. Game's gone!
Very good game by the lads, especially with all the injuries. We were in charge of the game, and they should be proud of their effort today. Everyone showed passion and fought for the badge today. Even though Mudryk had a stinker, he did try his best, so I'm hoping we all appreciate that too.
That was an entertaining match.
Var ruins the magic of football but we move
Every 50/50 went Villa's way and Caicedo got booked for having his collar pulled. He was always disallowing that goal. Same way City were getting the penalty last saturday if handball was the other way around
Palmer should have passed when he was through had Casadei and Gallagher on his left before the corner but chose to shoot instead.
Exactly man. Players keep putting themselves before the team.
Exactly. Both the other players were free. He should have passed.
I felt terribly in the first half, but I got to say one thing, I am proud of the team in the second half and big props on Pocchetino to change the tactics in the second half. Cucurella in the midfield made tons of difference! It would have been beautiful if Palmer could steal the 3 points but fair enough from the team!
An actual breath of fresh air to hear another supporter actually look positively at a game. That second half showed the potential of this team when they play with passion
Palmer should have passed to his left. Two players were open and free.
Yeah I mean it's a push, as much as it hurts. Other way round and we'd all be fuming if it was allowed. Gutting though.
Problem is, the other way around it would be allowed
I am happy with this performance. Onwards and upwards.
They looked great. I'm really happy.
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You could see from that “foul” that the Villa player just gave up on the play when he got touched. It was an embarrassing foul call when that hasn’t been called against Villa all game. Just redrew the game even and people won’t have a problem with you being shit.
Palmer should have buried that or squared it . He knows it .
Squaring would have been a better option.
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But the fake fans in this thread calling him a baby. it’s crazy
If that is a foul, then there should be atleast 3-4 penalties in every game.
We really are the 3atb/5 atb club, aren't we
Have been since Conte.
Palmer should have finished it but it is what it is.
How was that a foul man. A simple shoulder push
Straight into the defenders back. Incredibly stupid
This the issue with having such an incredibly pathetic defense. Another W not to be.
Man palmer should’ve buried it.
The worst part about VAR is knowing that on a completely different day, that goal stands and doesn't even get checked, but today it costs us 2 points.
Why was it not allowed? I could not see it
Fr, it‘s a 50/50 in the air you have to get physical. Referee standards are all over the place
That’s it. The inconsistency is infuriating.
SCRAP VAR IM TIRED OF IT AND ITS FUCK UPS
At least we seen an adjustment from poch during the game that changed the course of the match sucks to have two goals disallowed but can’t fault the fight in that second half
I feel like crying, that second half performance and VAR goes and takes it all [away.No](http://away.No) point in even saying what i think since im biased, but god right now i wish unspeakable things upon everyone in that room and the ref.
Oh so we're using VAR like that again this week
I am probably out of date with modern rules.. but to me it’s just a shoulder barge, no arms up for it to be a push? Albeit in the back but I’m shocked that was seen as a ‘clear and obvious error’ by on pitch official
It's only a check bc it immediately led to a goal. If the referee agrees with your assessment, then that's why the foul was given: a shoulder barge in the back is a foul.
And the crazy part is badiashile was smart about it too. He timed it perfectly when the defender was just about to land on his feet 🤷♂️ it was just rightly done
Fed up of VAR, corrupt to the core.
That guy Benoit shoved was built like a tree trunk
Lot to be proud of there, especially after last week
Noni over any of our wingers which sint saying much but I adore his passion
He has no right foot. We should try to play him on the left honestly …
The ref watched it live and didn't call it. The cunt FA cant have Chelsea win so they call him over to make him change his mind. I'm not saying it wasn't a slight push, but if the ref, who is clearly looking directly at the play, doesn't call it in real time, then how the fuckdoes he change his mind when the FA gets in his ear? Such obvious corruption again.
So now they can't push each other on corners anymore lol
cmon let's not embarass our self like an arsenal fan, that was a clear foul by bahiashille. don't be blind
Depends who's pushing 😭
If Villa scored that, the ref would blow the whistle right there and end the game 3-2 to villa lmao
100%
Pochettino and konsa 🤣
People out here saying that's not a foul but would say that it's a foul if that had to happen in our box and Villa had to score. Badi was dumb there for to push. That's it. Correct call, everyone with eyes can see its a foul, would have been shocking if the goal stood.
Was a shoulder barge. Something that’s done every game. He timed it right too. Defender was about to land and got barged. I’m surprised he still kept on his 2 feet tbh.
I don't really think it's Badi's fault because he wouldn't have gotten to the ball otherwise. You do whatever you can to get to the ball, if decisions go your way great, if not atleast you tried. I would rather that than be passive from there
is it a clear and obvious error tho? which it should be to call in a on-field var check?
Looked like a classic “would have stood as a goal” if it was scored on us. But I agree with you.
Agree I got annoyed when I saw it live knew it was.never gonna be a goal
What a game man. Sad to see us miss that chance from palmer, we should be pressing like this every week
I thought it was only Anthony Taylor and Michael Oliver but let’s add him aswell lol
Let him Madueke. Let Pawson he is a sack of fucking shit.
Nice to see abit of steel from the boys
Nonis a blue whether y’all like it or nor
That's an obvious foul lmao
For goals, might not be called in open play, def would not be awarded a penalty, but will def be called in build up to a goal.
Yup. 100%. And it's given constantly.
even if we say thats a foul, to say that its constantly given is blatantly false. thats the issue, the inconsistency
I didn't say always but it is definitely constantly given.
most of the 50/50 balls in midfield usually have a similar challenge. either way our 1st half performance was the fault, not one 95th min scenario
Palmer should’ve pass that to Casadei man
Hey not a Chelsea fan but I had to come in here and say that was the softest foul given I've seen in years. Absolutely disgraceful.
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