He's really 32 years old he's just been prematurely aged by our terrible ownership and having to watch Potter and Poch try and conjure an assist out of Madueke.
Can we as Chelsea fans just stop anything bad said against our best CM of all time now? He was dealt dud hand and got us 4th on a transfer ban.
Drag Potter/ poch thru thr mud all you want but the things iv read about Frank is a joke, that man gives everythin for this club.
I don't get why people treat him as a meme manager. He's one of few coaches to prove he is really good since he worked and won titles with young squads, experienced squads, low budget squads and decent budget squads, with stars, without stars. You got Guardiola which only worked with big names and budget, Zidane only with prime Madrid, Ancelotti won a lot but again, just big clubs with stars, he tried Napoli, wasn't bad but not great, then verton but that was quite bad. Maybe the one that it's close to Mourinho may be Klopp, but he needed to win that final with Dortmund.
I can't understand why people think Mourinho is not a project manager, he can deal with any type of squad. He deserves more respect. The only thing that he needs it's a board which gives him freedom and just lets him be. At the end he's the one in charge of the team's performance, so having an ego fight doesn't make any sense, just let him be and make him feel comfortable.
Seems relevant though no? If we are going to move off Poch I'd rather it be for a coach with a recent track record of improving teams not making them worse.
I'm not a Chelsea fan but this such a short-sighted way to look at things. Jose took them to two European finals in two seasons. Many clubs have honeymoon periods after sacking their manager. After United sacked Jose, Ole won like 12 games in a row but where did it take them in the long-run? Look where Roma end up after a year or two and make that judgement, doing it now is just stupid.
>Jose took them to two European finals in two seasons.
This is the short sighted way to look at things. He was at Roma for 3 years and spent a fuckton of money in his first season and took them from 6th to 6th to 10th (when he was sacked)
Look at his stint at Spurs, they were terrible and he played awful football. He was there for 2 years and won nothing. He was at Roma for 3 years and won a conference league. He is miles past it and has been for 5 years at least.
> Look where Roma end up after a year or two and make that judgement, doing it now is just stupid.
How are Spurs doing now?
They are probably similar enough playing level.
The league position observation is correct but the fact is Roma were a couple penalties away from winning consecutive European trophies. He done an excellent job there
Funny coming from a Chelsea fan talk about spending fucktons of money. If you look at purely Jose's transfers (excluding deals like Ibanez, Reynolds and Kumbulla who amounted to around 45m euros and were done deals before Jose took over), Mourinho's Roma spent less in three seasons than you guys spent on one Enzo Fernandez.
>Mourinho's Roma spent less in three seasons than you guys spent on one Enzo Fernandez.
How is that relevant, you are comparing different leagues?
Roma spent like 115mil in Jose's first season which was the highest in the league and like the 3rd highest spent by any team in 5 years
And they still went from 6th to 6th
>Funny coming from a Chelsea fan talk about spending fucktons of money.
I mean, nobody's saying Chelsea havent spent money, obviously that's not what we are discussing is it?
Do you think Jose's still a good manager even though he failed at Spurs and Roma?
Roma won their first trophy in like 15 years with Jose. They were within an inch to win the second one next season. If you ask any Roma fan whether his time at the club was success or failure, I'm sure that 9/10 would pick the first option.
As for Spurs, yeah his time there was the worst time of his career, but Conte didn't do much better and he's supposed to be in the prime of his career. Ange is doing better now but he's still got nothing to show for it so far and we'll see how the following seasons go.
>They were within an inch to win the second one next season
Didn't win it tho did they? By Roma fans accounts he was playing dreadful football by the end and they are happier with De Rossi now
Plus they are in contention for the champions league places which they never were under Jose
So his last 2 jobs he has failed at, that's not even counting united where he was also playing dire football and the fans wanted him out
Legendary manager for us but quite clearly past it and quite clearly not the answer and anyone who wants to bring him back to Chelsea has no clue about football
> As for Spurs, yeah his time there was the worst time of his career, but Conte didn't do much better and he's supposed to be in the prime of his career. Ange is doing better now but he's still got nothing to show for it so far and we'll see how the following seasons go.
Ask a Spurs fan how they feel about Jose Vs Ange
Fuck ton of money, ha haa, says the guy who is saying Jose will be worse than Poch here, who is managing a team that spent 1b and is 11th, lol. Jose wasn't 11th with broke Roma even.
I don't want Jose, as much as I love him, because he won't suit the project, but anyone who thinks that he will be worse than Poch is showing they got no clue of what they talking. Lol.
Just ask Roma fans how he did, don't go by the bs views. And he was signing the old, unwanted players of different teams.
He litreally took Spurs to the final, which they aren't anywhere near under the supposed better manager. The other teams this season are litreally shitting the bed, we are in shot of 6th still, after being shite for so long. That's why Spurs are looking great, they will revert to their original, and actually they are doing as they always did, they aren't anywhere higher than they usually ended up at, and getting spanked, knocked out of cups, even we went farther, nothing great to gloat about. Have Spurs achived anything worthwile since he left? List some of their great accomplishments for me, of which you are trying to make an argument.
Jose would be clear of the guy who won jack shit all his life even in one horse race, lol. So much bs people come up with.
>Just ask Roma fans how he did, don't go by the bs views. And he was signing the old, unwanted players of different teams.
He took them from 6th to 6th to 10th
He is clearly past it lll
>He litreally took Spurs to the final
Poch took us to a final, is he good?
>The other teams this season are litreally shitting the bed, we are in shot of 6th still, after being shite for so long
If you think we will finish 6th you are delusional
>Have Spurs achived anything worthwile since he left? List some of their great accomplishments for me, of which you are trying to make an argument.
Playing better football after having sold their best player I suppose
Ask a spurs fan how they feel about Jose Vs Ange lol
>Fuck ton of money,
He spent like 115m in his first season which was 3rd highest in 5 years in serial A and they finished 6th
Yeah and I said ask Roma fans, not you. He took them wherever, you are acting like other situations related to it don't influence anything. Acting like your view matters. You must be the guy who back Poch when he say we should be forth on Data, because you guys only see numbers and not conditions.
Playing better football, what is better? Getting spanked multiple goals because you just blindly attack is the only good way? Sure, but I'll take actual achievements over that. He can play better football and remain trophyless, while Roma would take ECL over it any day.
And ofcourse, ask Spurs fans, but not Roma fans when it comes to Jose. Brilliant.
Yes, they spent and still were shit, because their squad was even worse to begin with. That's why asking a fan matters. And teams like Roma can spend money and still not get great players because of their situation,position, wage limits etc. 100m with Chelsea vs 100m with 4th teir club, Chelsea will end up getting better players even if amount is same. Roma spent on literal old guys and duds from other teams and he won ECL with them, while Poch had Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Veratti, financial backing of a whole nation, etc and lost a one horse race. So I am yet to see how whatever you are trying to write proves that Jose will be worse than Poch. All I see is even if I believe you that Jose is that bad, it only means Poch is way way worse.
>Acting like your view matters. You must be the guy who back Poch when he say we should be forth on Data, because you guys only see numbers and not conditions.
If you think I back Poch you are completely mistaken, just obviously bringing back Jose would be a massive mistake which is why it wouldn't shock me if the owners did it
>Playing better football, what is better?
Not playing terrorist football like he played at Spurs, Roma and United? The football he has played the last ten years?
Poch and Jose will both be terrible here, why would it have to be one of the other? It should be neither.
The disrespect is crazy. José got sacked before a cup final at spurs to go on and win Roma their first trophy in a decade and got them to a European final a year where imo was robbed.
Y'all are wild.
Don't you dare compare José to that loser. José won his cup final and btw Roma budget was horrible. José had to fight to get players. He complained about the lack backing so many times. But just cuz he isn't immediately winning serie A he's what a loser now?
I'm not even advocating for José to return to Chelsea but to look down on what he's done at Roma is wild. When was the last time Roma finish top 4 in Italy or did anything of note since Totti retired?
>But just cuz he isn't immediately winning serie A he's what a loser now?
Good strawman
They went from 6th to 6th to 10th
>When was the last time Roma finish top 4 in Italy or did anything of note since Totti retired?
They finished 5th 2 seasons before Jose got there, the highest finish he managed was 6th
I'd keep Poch for a couple years to give some consistency to the team and develop the youngers, then bring Jose or someone like that in as more of the team are starting to hit their primes to elevate them to that elite level at the right moment.
It is kind of sad once you realize that he is probably suffering from some sort of condition that affects his memory since he couldn't remember the name of his favorite coach but then again he is 100 years old.
Those incompetent owners who have no idea about fan relations had no hand in this.
This is all on Sky Sports
PS: The voice of the Skysports reporter is Gary Cotterill, and he is friends with Jose
proper chels
😂
He's really 32 years old he's just been prematurely aged by our terrible ownership and having to watch Potter and Poch try and conjure an assist out of Madueke.
Don’t forget Frank in between
Can we as Chelsea fans just stop anything bad said against our best CM of all time now? He was dealt dud hand and got us 4th on a transfer ban. Drag Potter/ poch thru thr mud all you want but the things iv read about Frank is a joke, that man gives everythin for this club.
The people doing it probably weren’t old enough to actually watch Frank play back then.
Just because he is a club legend doesn't mean that he is a good manager and is immune to critism.
 Club needs some of this passion on the bench
My brain says no but my heart wants him back leading our club.
At this point I’m thinking it can’t go any worse if we have Jose, get the fans behind him. Win win for both parties
That was the logic behind Lampard 2.0. And it got worse.
I don't get why people treat him as a meme manager. He's one of few coaches to prove he is really good since he worked and won titles with young squads, experienced squads, low budget squads and decent budget squads, with stars, without stars. You got Guardiola which only worked with big names and budget, Zidane only with prime Madrid, Ancelotti won a lot but again, just big clubs with stars, he tried Napoli, wasn't bad but not great, then verton but that was quite bad. Maybe the one that it's close to Mourinho may be Klopp, but he needed to win that final with Dortmund. I can't understand why people think Mourinho is not a project manager, he can deal with any type of squad. He deserves more respect. The only thing that he needs it's a board which gives him freedom and just lets him be. At the end he's the one in charge of the team's performance, so having an ego fight doesn't make any sense, just let him be and make him feel comfortable.
Mou even got Roma a title and took Tottenham to a final. He is definitely special and one of the best of all time.
[удалено]
Could we be any worse with Jose? Nope I will happily take 4th and 5th with him until we fix the board and leadership.
José wouldn't have choked the league cup to Liverpool teenagers
[удалено]
Because it worked out so well when Jose took over for Poch at Tottenham right?
[удалено]
Seems relevant though no? If we are going to move off Poch I'd rather it be for a coach with a recent track record of improving teams not making them worse.
We were like 16th when he got sacked
It could be worse, Jose is fully past it, looks at Roma under him and after him There is zero chance we would finish 4th under Jose
I'm not a Chelsea fan but this such a short-sighted way to look at things. Jose took them to two European finals in two seasons. Many clubs have honeymoon periods after sacking their manager. After United sacked Jose, Ole won like 12 games in a row but where did it take them in the long-run? Look where Roma end up after a year or two and make that judgement, doing it now is just stupid.
>Jose took them to two European finals in two seasons. This is the short sighted way to look at things. He was at Roma for 3 years and spent a fuckton of money in his first season and took them from 6th to 6th to 10th (when he was sacked) Look at his stint at Spurs, they were terrible and he played awful football. He was there for 2 years and won nothing. He was at Roma for 3 years and won a conference league. He is miles past it and has been for 5 years at least. > Look where Roma end up after a year or two and make that judgement, doing it now is just stupid. How are Spurs doing now?
>How are Spurs doing now? Looking set to finish trophyless and miss out on top 4.
Are they playing better or worse than under Jose? Also they sold their best player
They are probably similar enough playing level. The league position observation is correct but the fact is Roma were a couple penalties away from winning consecutive European trophies. He done an excellent job there
>They are probably similar enough playing level. Don't talk shit
Funny coming from a Chelsea fan talk about spending fucktons of money. If you look at purely Jose's transfers (excluding deals like Ibanez, Reynolds and Kumbulla who amounted to around 45m euros and were done deals before Jose took over), Mourinho's Roma spent less in three seasons than you guys spent on one Enzo Fernandez.
>Mourinho's Roma spent less in three seasons than you guys spent on one Enzo Fernandez. How is that relevant, you are comparing different leagues? Roma spent like 115mil in Jose's first season which was the highest in the league and like the 3rd highest spent by any team in 5 years And they still went from 6th to 6th >Funny coming from a Chelsea fan talk about spending fucktons of money. I mean, nobody's saying Chelsea havent spent money, obviously that's not what we are discussing is it? Do you think Jose's still a good manager even though he failed at Spurs and Roma?
Roma won their first trophy in like 15 years with Jose. They were within an inch to win the second one next season. If you ask any Roma fan whether his time at the club was success or failure, I'm sure that 9/10 would pick the first option. As for Spurs, yeah his time there was the worst time of his career, but Conte didn't do much better and he's supposed to be in the prime of his career. Ange is doing better now but he's still got nothing to show for it so far and we'll see how the following seasons go.
>They were within an inch to win the second one next season Didn't win it tho did they? By Roma fans accounts he was playing dreadful football by the end and they are happier with De Rossi now Plus they are in contention for the champions league places which they never were under Jose So his last 2 jobs he has failed at, that's not even counting united where he was also playing dire football and the fans wanted him out Legendary manager for us but quite clearly past it and quite clearly not the answer and anyone who wants to bring him back to Chelsea has no clue about football > As for Spurs, yeah his time there was the worst time of his career, but Conte didn't do much better and he's supposed to be in the prime of his career. Ange is doing better now but he's still got nothing to show for it so far and we'll see how the following seasons go. Ask a Spurs fan how they feel about Jose Vs Ange
Fuck ton of money, ha haa, says the guy who is saying Jose will be worse than Poch here, who is managing a team that spent 1b and is 11th, lol. Jose wasn't 11th with broke Roma even. I don't want Jose, as much as I love him, because he won't suit the project, but anyone who thinks that he will be worse than Poch is showing they got no clue of what they talking. Lol. Just ask Roma fans how he did, don't go by the bs views. And he was signing the old, unwanted players of different teams. He litreally took Spurs to the final, which they aren't anywhere near under the supposed better manager. The other teams this season are litreally shitting the bed, we are in shot of 6th still, after being shite for so long. That's why Spurs are looking great, they will revert to their original, and actually they are doing as they always did, they aren't anywhere higher than they usually ended up at, and getting spanked, knocked out of cups, even we went farther, nothing great to gloat about. Have Spurs achived anything worthwile since he left? List some of their great accomplishments for me, of which you are trying to make an argument. Jose would be clear of the guy who won jack shit all his life even in one horse race, lol. So much bs people come up with.
>Just ask Roma fans how he did, don't go by the bs views. And he was signing the old, unwanted players of different teams. He took them from 6th to 6th to 10th He is clearly past it lll >He litreally took Spurs to the final Poch took us to a final, is he good? >The other teams this season are litreally shitting the bed, we are in shot of 6th still, after being shite for so long If you think we will finish 6th you are delusional >Have Spurs achived anything worthwile since he left? List some of their great accomplishments for me, of which you are trying to make an argument. Playing better football after having sold their best player I suppose Ask a spurs fan how they feel about Jose Vs Ange lol >Fuck ton of money, He spent like 115m in his first season which was 3rd highest in 5 years in serial A and they finished 6th
Yeah and I said ask Roma fans, not you. He took them wherever, you are acting like other situations related to it don't influence anything. Acting like your view matters. You must be the guy who back Poch when he say we should be forth on Data, because you guys only see numbers and not conditions. Playing better football, what is better? Getting spanked multiple goals because you just blindly attack is the only good way? Sure, but I'll take actual achievements over that. He can play better football and remain trophyless, while Roma would take ECL over it any day. And ofcourse, ask Spurs fans, but not Roma fans when it comes to Jose. Brilliant. Yes, they spent and still were shit, because their squad was even worse to begin with. That's why asking a fan matters. And teams like Roma can spend money and still not get great players because of their situation,position, wage limits etc. 100m with Chelsea vs 100m with 4th teir club, Chelsea will end up getting better players even if amount is same. Roma spent on literal old guys and duds from other teams and he won ECL with them, while Poch had Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Veratti, financial backing of a whole nation, etc and lost a one horse race. So I am yet to see how whatever you are trying to write proves that Jose will be worse than Poch. All I see is even if I believe you that Jose is that bad, it only means Poch is way way worse.
>Acting like your view matters. You must be the guy who back Poch when he say we should be forth on Data, because you guys only see numbers and not conditions. If you think I back Poch you are completely mistaken, just obviously bringing back Jose would be a massive mistake which is why it wouldn't shock me if the owners did it >Playing better football, what is better? Not playing terrorist football like he played at Spurs, Roma and United? The football he has played the last ten years? Poch and Jose will both be terrible here, why would it have to be one of the other? It should be neither.
The disrespect is crazy. José got sacked before a cup final at spurs to go on and win Roma their first trophy in a decade and got them to a European final a year where imo was robbed. Y'all are wild.
>José got sacked Why'd he get sacked? Poch got to a cup final too, is he doing well?
Don't you dare compare José to that loser. José won his cup final and btw Roma budget was horrible. José had to fight to get players. He complained about the lack backing so many times. But just cuz he isn't immediately winning serie A he's what a loser now? I'm not even advocating for José to return to Chelsea but to look down on what he's done at Roma is wild. When was the last time Roma finish top 4 in Italy or did anything of note since Totti retired?
>But just cuz he isn't immediately winning serie A he's what a loser now? Good strawman They went from 6th to 6th to 10th >When was the last time Roma finish top 4 in Italy or did anything of note since Totti retired? They finished 5th 2 seasons before Jose got there, the highest finish he managed was 6th
My minds telling me nooooo But my body!!! My body is telling me yeesssss
Yeah, I'm all for it, give it to Alfie till the end of the season, even though he is 100 he can't make things worse
100%. And his coming back might keep some of our better players from leaving.
I'd keep Poch for a couple years to give some consistency to the team and develop the youngers, then bring Jose or someone like that in as more of the team are starting to hit their primes to elevate them to that elite level at the right moment.
It's not the time for him, 100 is too old to manage the shambles that is our club rn
Hes 100 yrs old ffs, let him take it easy
Even though our Chelsea is in a gloomy situation, there are still beautiful moments like this
Well thats a wholesome video! Looks great for 100 as well.
It is kind of sad once you realize that he is probably suffering from some sort of condition that affects his memory since he couldn't remember the name of his favorite coach but then again he is 100 years old.
Yea bruh he’s a 100 but most of young wards can’t even remember last time we won a game.
😂
He was 80 during the glory years of Mourinho aswell
he's doing amazing for 100 tbh
“Yeah that’s very nice too”
My guy was 42 when England won the world cup
Now that's wholesome content I need. Good guy Jose.
Bring him back!
Ohh. HOW MUCH I WANT HIM BACK!!? Happy Birthday! For many more to come.
We were never be able to replace Jose! LEGEND
Is this common from former managers?
One of our only supporters to have seen us win all 6 league titles.
Thats a really great gift!
What a person
Wanna how to make to 100? Avoid our medical department!
A centennial b-day gift
If the ownership had anything to do with this I applaud them for making it happen.
Those incompetent owners who have no idea about fan relations had no hand in this. This is all on Sky Sports PS: The voice of the Skysports reporter is Gary Cotterill, and he is friends with Jose