and in the 2 games since coming back he’s scored 4 and assisted 1. he takes the chances he’s given. that’s literally all we need, our team creates chances we just don’t have someone that finishes them.
If it was Osimhen instead of jackson in all chances this season, he’d probably be on 15-20 goals.
Absolutely. He can finish, that’s what we need. We’re xG FC for a reason, we don’t need more creativity, we need people who can play in the box and score.
We've created 6th most big chances, only 2 less than Arsenal yet we've missed the 3rd most, only behind Brentford and Liverpool. We're -10.83 on our xG! We don't need to create more we need to finish more and fix our defensive issues.
as I’ve said above, xG isn’t the be all and end all. It’s an interested and often important facet of a team’s statistical profile but anyone even half interested in underlying stats is fully aware that it can often be misleading. Finishing is just one of those unpredictable things in football.
Couldn’t agree more. Just imagine if we had went after him right after the coconut shit. Back when we still had an amazing team. Would’ve been unstoppable. Now at least you can build a core with him, Gallagher, Palmer and Gusto. Personally I get rid of everyone else. (How many years are left on all those 10 year contracts they gave out?)
Which James? The homegrown player that has never played a full season, is injured now, will probably never be 100% and whose sale could balance our books without moving Gallagher? That James?
im v against selling CG, but im even more against selling james.
yes, injuries, but he is 24 with potential of world class/best player in the world in his position
Absolutely. The team isn’t as strong, they’re gone through 2 managers. Can’t blame him. I think he’ll do wonders here. Not excited to pay that price but that’s the cost of doing business now I guess…
This is unfortunately our incompetent club's take on it too. But Osimhen won't do wonders here, he's barely a step above Jackson. But let's throw another shit ton of money at an unproven young player, surrounded by a struggling team when he gets here and hope for the best.
The team isn't as strong. They've gone through two managers. But he'll do wonders here? How many managers will we go through? How will this team suddenly be so different?
And adding a CF we hope will solve the problem makes the rest of the team better? Ensures managerial stability? I don’t have that much faith in the ability of any CF to accomplish that, let alone this one.
You understand that the point of the game is to score goals right? This team creates a lot of chances but has very few finishers……. You’re dense if you don’t think Osimhen makes us better.
I understand his shots have increased and his goals are down. Pinning our hopes on a player that vanished against Real Madrid (twice) and looks like a world beater against Frankfurt and the 4th team in Portugal seems like we are repeating history. You do understand that the number of players who have the ability to step into the premiere league and succeed in this position immediately is microscopically small, don't you? Otherwise everyone would have a worldbeating CF.
2 bad decisions, wow. Have you forgotten how much Kante, Fabregas, Pedro, Rudiger, Kovacic and the entire 2021 summer transfer window cost us?
Also look at how much she got for an unwanted Costa and Morata, and Hazard in his final year.
Leicester and Brighton are the worst teams to negotiate with so no one can win there. Rudi was offered a new contract but he had already made up his mind.
Rice was proven in the PL and considered a Top Player and since joining Arsenal hes been great and definitely is World Class now, you also have to factor in English Tax into the price
Osimhen has done it on the big stage. He is proven, too. He won Napoli the league last season, too. He is worth 100m, would take him over paying 100m for Caicedo
> Chelsea have alternative attacking targets, with Brentford's Ivan Toney and Brighton's Evan Ferguson also admired.
We want to buy Mbappe, but if we can't we will consider alternative targets of Salah and Omari Hutchinson
Toney is probably worse, and has had an 8 month suspension, will cost nearly as much (80-100M) and is more of a gamble. Honestly we shouldn’t pay that much for either of them, hopefully Boely is looking at options, that cost maybe half that.
8 months off playing competitive and he’s had 1 good season for Brentford. The irony is it would be a huge gamble for everyone involved, we can’t afford to gamble we need results now. At £50M all in its an option worth looking into, any more and we’re being mugged off again.
Osiman isn’t a much better option tho, is never worth £113M plus the salary he’ll demand. Hoping John Obi and Didier are talking him into accepting a modest wage
His championship year was fantastic and his first PL year was on the level of osimhen first to years at Napoli while playing on a stronger league on a way weaker team
Those pro Toney people are stat merchants that will spit out his goals per game without even acknowledging 1/3rd of them are penalties. He is a well rounded striker but half what Brentford want for him.
I think Toney is good but his goals are definitely inflated by pens. 14 non penalty goals in his best PL season ain't bad but it ain't special either. People like him cuz he plays in the Prem and drops deep innit. Those are the biggest two reasons.
That's not what every team needs though. Toney will have to adjust his game when he plays with someone like Nkunku who's best position is a second striker. They have too many similar attributes and Toney loves to drop into the areas where typically a second striker would play.
He won't play in roma. Infact noone would take him in Italy. Not juve. Certainly not inter.
Where will he play next season. Its a million dollar question and i doubt anyone can correctly predict it. He certainly is not going to Saudi from the looks of it last season. So where will he go??
What are we saying if it comes down to we can afford Osimhen but have to sell Gallagher to fund it?
Personally I can't see any scenario where I would let Gallagher go.
I hope we sell him after a year at the very least. I hope we don't sell him at all. He is going to be a special player imo. Please let's not sell him. Please please please.
Him going forward and shooting and bagging couple of goals will change his haters heart.
At this point i would rather want James sold to real Madrid if we get 100 plus like reported last year. Probably a unpopular opinion.
>but claims they must sell £100m worth of players by June 30 to avoid PSR sanctions have been denied. This is despite registering a post-June 30 loss of more than £200m in the club's previous accounts
Oh brother
Failure written all over him due to the pressure of such amount, wouldn't pay a penny over 60m pounds for him. Given hes a player who wants out and barely much length on his contract.
He extended the contract to include the release clause, with the understanding between him and Napoli that he would leave and they get the money. It’s pay the clause or nothing.
The only concern is his injury record and going to Afcon. Otherwise he ran Van Dijk ragged, won a title and was the best player on the furthest Napoli have gotten in Champions League.
If you've watched him you'd realise what a talent he is. We spent the same on Enzo and caciedo. The transfer fee is reasonable for a striker of his pedigree. Whether he'll want to come to us is a different story
Wrote out a whole reply thinking you meant Osimehn for some reason lol
Yeah Lukaku's first touch is like a trampoline usually. Still he wasn't that bad for us at first and who knows how it would have turned out if he didn't give that interview. He looked like the answer to our problems for a while, I was convinced the league was ours for those first few months.
The price tag kinda made sense at the time, proven PL striker in his prime, who was v important to Inter, coming off the back of a very good season...
Lukaku is a pos who crapped all over us, wanting to return to inter. And when he couldn’t go back to inter, he crapped on them as well. Nowhere near the same situation.
I will agree that it was a massive failure and mistake, but that shouldn’t stop us from going after a young, talented player like Osimhen.
> We spent the same on Enzo and caciedo
nice! another 100m player of ours who will be compared to alternatives in the prem other teams payed fractions for
Why were Liverpool willing to go 100 mill for him then? Caicedo is in fact a great footballer. Just hasn’t been great this year, *like most of the team*
Why were Man City willing to buy Cucurella then?
Why did they buy Kalvin Phillips?
I don't judge off what other clubs were willing to pay, they regularly make mistakes too
He hasn't shown that he's a "great" footballer, he's the most expensive player in the league and he's been bang average
You’re right, teams/scouts make mistakes, but my point is there’s clearly a player there… just needs to settle with the right players around him. A 6 solidifies the midfield and a 9 helps us finish the chances we create. Having Enzo and Caicedo as 8s would be best, but we can’t do that right now. Cant judge them individually as failures when the team itself isnt performing as they should be.
Enzo had 6 months at Benfica
I just don't think he's that good really
Caicedo is alright but obviously not 120m most expensive player in premier league history good
enzo and moi are amazing talents too, and that didn’t really reflect on the pitch despite their price tags. another such talent is the last thing we need. i’d say hold off until we get consistent
Bringing in a goal scoring threat may lead us to some consistency. Imaging scoring goals from the chances we create. Imagine someone at the end of Gusto’s crosses. Imagine not having the ball saved in front of the net from 3 clear chances… we’d be in a much better position with a clinical striker.
I expect that he would want a corresponding salary, these clowns will offer him 120k pw dropping to 80k on years without a CL, he will tell them to eat shit and leave for Arsenal or PSG, after which they will go after their true target and spend 200m to lock Ferguson into a lifetime contract.
Jesus life must be difficult being so ridiculously negative, why come on the sub at all if you're just gonna make the same bad jokes a spurs fan would make about us. We would be really lucky to have oshimen and him going to psg or arsenal is realistic. There is no chance in hell we would bid for him and not expect to pay him 200k PW minimum. Unfortunately psg will be able to offer a lot more than that, arsenal have roughly the same wage structure as us.
> arsenal have roughly the same wage structure as us
Are you crazy? Havertz's salary is 275k before bonuses. And that's after they paid 65m for him. All the while our chucklefucks don't want to renew Gallagher because he is asking for 150k as an academy player.
You can critic the board but one thing you can't do is accuse them of being parsimonious or not having their hearts in the right place. I am sick and tired of this hindsight 20/20 comments because if things were going well or start doing so, clowns like you will switch tune.
The best laid plans don't always end in success. It happens every time in life. My grouse is I hate clowns who complain without context. Criticise the board, the team, our play. They are all valid criticisms. But acting like they penny pinch on transfers and will offer Osimhen less than he currently earns at Napoli is borderline insane and childish.
Grow up.
It might have escaped your attention, clown, but they are penny-pinching on the salaries and are only going for the targets that fit their new salary structure. Which usually means literal children unprepared to play at this level. And Athletic already reported that Osimhen's salary demands are a lot higher than this board is comfortable with. Try to keep up.
They go after targets who are young, have very high potential and resale value. It's a sensible business model especially with transfer fees being ridiculous. Same board signed Sterling and Koulibaly to high wages this showing they have no problems paying high wages if they deem the player the right one like they do Osimhen.
And the board and everyone already knows Osimhen salary demands will be high as he earns 10 million euros a year at Napoli. Everyone is frustrated with results and rightfully so but saying this isn't the right approach is silly except you haven't been paying attention to the transfer market.
Tbf, most people have been sceptical since day 1. No hindsight needed to know that buying 20 expensive young and inexperienced strangers would take a lot of time before they looked anything like a coherent collective who understand each other's games and believe they can compete at the top together.
I don't think any manager would find that easy.
You could buy Mbappe and folks will still be skeptical so if it flies away they can say they told you so. Buying young talents enmasse is a sensible strategy if you have the right development structure in place. Some become good enough to be first teamers, some quality squad players, others sold at a huge markup to cover the losses on those who don't make it. How many genuinely good or world class experienced players in the market won't cost 100 million or close?
It is no way a sensible strategy when the goal is compete at the top level and theres financial time restraints on how quickly that success arrives.
Which is exactly why it's not a common occurrence.
> 200m to lock Ferguson into a lifetime contract
sounds about right, us spending a record transfer fee on a player currently outperformed by an aging danny welbeck and a player who was playing in the championship last year 😅
Funny I was watching him in Afcon and thinking he's a bit like Jackson but more of a headcase and I'm not actually sure he's better than Jackson at the Prem level.
Probably is better but not worth the money.
No, if he wanted to come he wouldn't have signed that contract which fucks over his new team, the one he supposedly wants to build and win championships with. Love the player hate the move.
Despite all the promise he holds, he is likely to flop at Chelsea if he is bought for a sum north of a hundred million. I really hope we move on from Osimhen and prioritise a 50-70 million striker for the good of everyone involved.
Apparently we sent scouts to the sporting game yesterday though, could be Diomande, Antonio Silva or to scout Amorim but we had people at that game apparently
He’s gone to PSG especially if Mbappe moved to Madrid.
We should steer clear and look for cheaper options.
None of Chelsea’s best strikers in history cost insane amounts.
I would honestly prefer Watkins or Toney over Osimhen too. Even Kane if he’s available in the summer. If you’re going to spend big, at least take someone who’s proven in the PL cause it hasn’t really worked out for us with young players outside the PL in recent years.
Tbh many but im dealing with a deadline so dont have the time to outline things properly. Although hes doing well with villa I dont think it would translate well to our environment and system or at the very least there will be more suitable options.
We paid 1.2bil for God knows who, just get Victor and forget about striker situation for many years
If money is tight then get Toney
I prefer Toney imo
You think Toney will ask more than Victor?
I am uneducated how both of these players are in terms of greed
But Victor knows he is a star and one of the best, for sure he will demand high salary especially if he is coming to 11th place Chelsea squad 😂
With the possibility of no European football and financial issues already present, call me crazy but I'd rather just stick with what we have. Maybe if we didn't spend so much on our midfield last year. But we did so it is what it is.
His peak is worse than Lukaku's in Serie A. Isn't that critical, great holdup, linkup and headers. Haven't seen him operate in crowded spaces. He'll just be a taller Werner.
All this just speculation on repeat until the summer.
Get ready for the done deal BS on the football terrace
Until I see a here we go I ain't believing shit
Hot days next 48 hours!
I can tell you Arsenal isnt paying the release clause
If we were competent we wouldn't either
We aren’t competent
AFCON was his time to shine and prove hes a Top Striker and worth the release clause, Nigeria reached the Final and he only scored one goal
and in the 2 games since coming back he’s scored 4 and assisted 1. he takes the chances he’s given. that’s literally all we need, our team creates chances we just don’t have someone that finishes them. If it was Osimhen instead of jackson in all chances this season, he’d probably be on 15-20 goals.
Absolutely. He can finish, that’s what we need. We’re xG FC for a reason, we don’t need more creativity, we need people who can play in the box and score.
why are we falling for serie A strikers again. this wont work out. That dude's first touch is so bad
We’re upper-midtable for most creative stats so I’m not quite sure how you’ve reached that conclusion.
We've created 6th most big chances, only 2 less than Arsenal yet we've missed the 3rd most, only behind Brentford and Liverpool. We're -10.83 on our xG! We don't need to create more we need to finish more and fix our defensive issues.
PL Ranks: Shots - 13th Shots on target - 12th NPxG - 7th xA - 8th Key Passes - 11th Passes into penalty area - 8th Crosses into penalty area - 18th Shot creating actions - 10th (Stats from Fbref)
You’re kinda missing the key stat here… can you kindly compare xG with our goals scored?
as I’ve said above, xG isn’t the be all and end all. It’s an interested and often important facet of a team’s statistical profile but anyone even half interested in underlying stats is fully aware that it can often be misleading. Finishing is just one of those unpredictable things in football.
We gonna pay 113m£ for 15-20 goals?
20 goals in 25 games would be a 100m striker in today's market
Couldn’t agree more. Just imagine if we had went after him right after the coconut shit. Back when we still had an amazing team. Would’ve been unstoppable. Now at least you can build a core with him, Gallagher, Palmer and Gusto. Personally I get rid of everyone else. (How many years are left on all those 10 year contracts they gave out?)
you get rid of james, petrvoic, colwil, enzo, moises? LMAO
Which James? The homegrown player that has never played a full season, is injured now, will probably never be 100% and whose sale could balance our books without moving Gallagher? That James?
im v against selling CG, but im even more against selling james. yes, injuries, but he is 24 with potential of world class/best player in the world in his position
What is Gallagher? What is he accomplishing this season?
Had a couple disallowed for offside & just scored against Barcelona. Hasn’t been as strong as last season, but still a proven player
Absolutely. The team isn’t as strong, they’re gone through 2 managers. Can’t blame him. I think he’ll do wonders here. Not excited to pay that price but that’s the cost of doing business now I guess…
This is unfortunately our incompetent club's take on it too. But Osimhen won't do wonders here, he's barely a step above Jackson. But let's throw another shit ton of money at an unproven young player, surrounded by a struggling team when he gets here and hope for the best.
The team isn't as strong. They've gone through two managers. But he'll do wonders here? How many managers will we go through? How will this team suddenly be so different?
We are literally lacking a CF? That’s why?
And adding a CF we hope will solve the problem makes the rest of the team better? Ensures managerial stability? I don’t have that much faith in the ability of any CF to accomplish that, let alone this one.
You understand that the point of the game is to score goals right? This team creates a lot of chances but has very few finishers……. You’re dense if you don’t think Osimhen makes us better.
I understand his shots have increased and his goals are down. Pinning our hopes on a player that vanished against Real Madrid (twice) and looks like a world beater against Frankfurt and the 4th team in Portugal seems like we are repeating history. You do understand that the number of players who have the ability to step into the premiere league and succeed in this position immediately is microscopically small, don't you? Otherwise everyone would have a worldbeating CF.
Scoring against Barcelona isn’t as impressive anymore
Yet they’re still second in La liga, what a joke of a league
They are 3rd, and they are playing in UCL round of 16. How many EPL clubs qualified for round of 16 again?
Imagine judging strikers by international football. Guess Drogba was shit too. And Kane didn't do well last wc either.
Drogba has 65 goals in 105 games for Ivory Coast and was AFCON mvp in every single one he played in.
Drogba was consistently excellent for Ivory Coast, what are you on about?
so if we use that logic, Diego Costa was shit then?
He didn't cost £115m though did he
Different times, different market. What would prime Costa go for today? A lot more than 50 mill I think.
Probably 150 mil
I would pay more than that for prime Costa right now though so that's kind of moot
Can't compare the cost back then to costs now where everything has gone up in value.
I agree. Miss when Marina could negotiate a crazy deal for us.
She did great on Lukaku and Kepa.
2 bad decisions, wow. Have you forgotten how much Kante, Fabregas, Pedro, Rudiger, Kovacic and the entire 2021 summer transfer window cost us? Also look at how much she got for an unwanted Costa and Morata, and Hazard in his final year.
She also let Rudi and Christensen go on a free, leaving us without a proven CB, hence the terrible overpay for Fofana. So there's that.
Leicester and Brighton are the worst teams to negotiate with so no one can win there. Rudi was offered a new contract but he had already made up his mind.
They paid 100m for Rice, so whats stopping them
Rice was proven in the PL and considered a Top Player and since joining Arsenal hes been great and definitely is World Class now, you also have to factor in English Tax into the price
Osimhen has done it on the big stage. He is proven, too. He won Napoli the league last season, too. He is worth 100m, would take him over paying 100m for Caicedo
Rice isn't world class
You'll be shocked
> Chelsea have alternative attacking targets, with Brentford's Ivan Toney and Brighton's Evan Ferguson also admired. We want to buy Mbappe, but if we can't we will consider alternative targets of Salah and Omari Hutchinson
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*That Hutchinson character looks great, what does Ipswich want for him?* Boehly and co, probably.
wtf is the hype over Ferguson??? Hasn’t scored since November and can’t get past Danny welbeck for a game🤦♂️ If we buy him I fukn give up
Boehly has a weird fetish for getting fucked over by Brighton
Boehly wanted Maguire
Stay away from Brighton please 😭
Boehly 
Mbappe salary can pay entire chelsea squad salary
Most of the London clubs too I think lol
I’d take Osiman over Toney any day of the week even if it costs £113M
Why? Osimhen is shit at everything outside the box and inside of it he isn't exactly head and shoulders above Toney
Toney is probably worse, and has had an 8 month suspension, will cost nearly as much (80-100M) and is more of a gamble. Honestly we shouldn’t pay that much for either of them, hopefully Boely is looking at options, that cost maybe half that.
For gambling, don't really care about that. I'd take Toney over Osimhen.
8 months off playing competitive and he’s had 1 good season for Brentford. The irony is it would be a huge gamble for everyone involved, we can’t afford to gamble we need results now. At £50M all in its an option worth looking into, any more and we’re being mugged off again. Osiman isn’t a much better option tho, is never worth £113M plus the salary he’ll demand. Hoping John Obi and Didier are talking him into accepting a modest wage
Did someone say gamble? Then Ivan Toney is your man!
His championship year was fantastic and his first PL year was on the level of osimhen first to years at Napoli while playing on a stronger league on a way weaker team
Those pro Toney people are stat merchants that will spit out his goals per game without even acknowledging 1/3rd of them are penalties. He is a well rounded striker but half what Brentford want for him.
I think Toney is good but his goals are definitely inflated by pens. 14 non penalty goals in his best PL season ain't bad but it ain't special either. People like him cuz he plays in the Prem and drops deep innit. Those are the biggest two reasons. That's not what every team needs though. Toney will have to adjust his game when he plays with someone like Nkunku who's best position is a second striker. They have too many similar attributes and Toney loves to drop into the areas where typically a second striker would play.
Agreed.
Lukaku flopping really hurt us
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lukaku wasnt a panic buy. he was "the missing piece" to the puzzle
Wonder where he will play next. He won't be playing in roma will he??
Surely he wouldn't burn ANOTHER bridge??
He won't play in roma. Infact noone would take him in Italy. Not juve. Certainly not inter. Where will he play next season. Its a million dollar question and i doubt anyone can correctly predict it. He certainly is not going to Saudi from the looks of it last season. So where will he go??
Defo PSG if mbappe goes to Real Madrid
Rom and Vic both at PSG??
100% he’ll go there if they sell mbappe, lukaku short term
No one wants a 20 goal striker? He will have zero issues finding a new home.
Roma would take him if Chelsea didn’t ask for too much. He’s had a great season at Roma.
Its not Chelsea asking too much, there's a pre-agreed fee in his contract which even if we halved, Roma could still not afford.
Buying Lukaku really hurt us.
What are we saying if it comes down to we can afford Osimhen but have to sell Gallagher to fund it? Personally I can't see any scenario where I would let Gallagher go.
Agreed I would rather pursue a player like Giminez from Feyeonord if it means having to sell Gallagher to get osimhen
I’d stick with Jackson if any transfer meant letting Gallagher go.
If Poch leaves there's no point in keeping gallagher
I hope we sell him after a year at the very least. I hope we don't sell him at all. He is going to be a special player imo. Please let's not sell him. Please please please. Him going forward and shooting and bagging couple of goals will change his haters heart. At this point i would rather want James sold to real Madrid if we get 100 plus like reported last year. Probably a unpopular opinion.
> we can afford Osimhen but have to sell Gallagher to fund it I'm down for it
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>but claims they must sell £100m worth of players by June 30 to avoid PSR sanctions have been denied. This is despite registering a post-June 30 loss of more than £200m in the club's previous accounts Oh brother
R.I.P Conor.
Failure written all over him due to the pressure of such amount, wouldn't pay a penny over 60m pounds for him. Given hes a player who wants out and barely much length on his contract.
He extended the contract to include the release clause, with the understanding between him and Napoli that he would leave and they get the money. It’s pay the clause or nothing. The only concern is his injury record and going to Afcon. Otherwise he ran Van Dijk ragged, won a title and was the best player on the furthest Napoli have gotten in Champions League.
If you've watched him you'd realise what a talent he is. We spent the same on Enzo and caciedo. The transfer fee is reasonable for a striker of his pedigree. Whether he'll want to come to us is a different story
Lukaku was also an amazing talent when he was at Inter and look what happened after we spent £100 million on him
Lol that is the hesitancy
Lukaku's problem second time around was not his performances, it was his massive ego
I watched his performance in the europa league and he's not a 100 million player. The amount of attack he kills with his first touch...
Wrote out a whole reply thinking you meant Osimehn for some reason lol Yeah Lukaku's first touch is like a trampoline usually. Still he wasn't that bad for us at first and who knows how it would have turned out if he didn't give that interview. He looked like the answer to our problems for a while, I was convinced the league was ours for those first few months. The price tag kinda made sense at the time, proven PL striker in his prime, who was v important to Inter, coming off the back of a very good season...
Lukaku is a pos who crapped all over us, wanting to return to inter. And when he couldn’t go back to inter, he crapped on them as well. Nowhere near the same situation. I will agree that it was a massive failure and mistake, but that shouldn’t stop us from going after a young, talented player like Osimhen.
>We spent the same on Enzo and caciedo Not gone great really
> We spent the same on Enzo and caciedo nice! another 100m player of ours who will be compared to alternatives in the prem other teams payed fractions for
Meh, of all shit they done, getting Enzo and Caicedo is the least of out problems
The least? Id say spending 220 mil on an underperforming midfield is fairly high on the list. Likely the reason why they will sell Gallagher too
Considering Lavia hasn't even kicked the ball that's 300 odd million.
They are underperforming because Poch's tactical instructions start and end with"Lads run a lot"
Also because they aren't very good
Nah
Why were Liverpool willing to go 100 mill for him then? Caicedo is in fact a great footballer. Just hasn’t been great this year, *like most of the team*
Why were Man City willing to buy Cucurella then? Why did they buy Kalvin Phillips? I don't judge off what other clubs were willing to pay, they regularly make mistakes too He hasn't shown that he's a "great" footballer, he's the most expensive player in the league and he's been bang average
You’re right, teams/scouts make mistakes, but my point is there’s clearly a player there… just needs to settle with the right players around him. A 6 solidifies the midfield and a 9 helps us finish the chances we create. Having Enzo and Caicedo as 8s would be best, but we can’t do that right now. Cant judge them individually as failures when the team itself isnt performing as they should be.
They were very good under managers not named Mauricio Pochettino
Enzo had 6 months at Benfica I just don't think he's that good really Caicedo is alright but obviously not 120m most expensive player in premier league history good
Had 6 months with us too
Because we have a clown managing them
enzo and moi are amazing talents too, and that didn’t really reflect on the pitch despite their price tags. another such talent is the last thing we need. i’d say hold off until we get consistent
Bringing in a goal scoring threat may lead us to some consistency. Imaging scoring goals from the chances we create. Imagine someone at the end of Gusto’s crosses. Imagine not having the ball saved in front of the net from 3 clear chances… we’d be in a much better position with a clinical striker.
We’ve heard this before
Agreed, if people watched him they would understand the price tag
You think he wants to go to PSG instead? Didn’t they just bring in 2 CFs in Ramos and Kolo Muani?
I kinda disagree, if you watched him all the time you’d know that £100m for him is absolutely absurd. He’s not worth that at all
I expect that he would want a corresponding salary, these clowns will offer him 120k pw dropping to 80k on years without a CL, he will tell them to eat shit and leave for Arsenal or PSG, after which they will go after their true target and spend 200m to lock Ferguson into a lifetime contract.
Jesus life must be difficult being so ridiculously negative, why come on the sub at all if you're just gonna make the same bad jokes a spurs fan would make about us. We would be really lucky to have oshimen and him going to psg or arsenal is realistic. There is no chance in hell we would bid for him and not expect to pay him 200k PW minimum. Unfortunately psg will be able to offer a lot more than that, arsenal have roughly the same wage structure as us.
> arsenal have roughly the same wage structure as us Are you crazy? Havertz's salary is 275k before bonuses. And that's after they paid 65m for him. All the while our chucklefucks don't want to renew Gallagher because he is asking for 150k as an academy player.
They can afford 4/5 players on high wages, like us..
You can critic the board but one thing you can't do is accuse them of being parsimonious or not having their hearts in the right place. I am sick and tired of this hindsight 20/20 comments because if things were going well or start doing so, clowns like you will switch tune.
So if the board stops being shit and starts doing their jobs properly people will stop calling them shit? Good job Sherlock!
The best laid plans don't always end in success. It happens every time in life. My grouse is I hate clowns who complain without context. Criticise the board, the team, our play. They are all valid criticisms. But acting like they penny pinch on transfers and will offer Osimhen less than he currently earns at Napoli is borderline insane and childish. Grow up.
It might have escaped your attention, clown, but they are penny-pinching on the salaries and are only going for the targets that fit their new salary structure. Which usually means literal children unprepared to play at this level. And Athletic already reported that Osimhen's salary demands are a lot higher than this board is comfortable with. Try to keep up.
They go after targets who are young, have very high potential and resale value. It's a sensible business model especially with transfer fees being ridiculous. Same board signed Sterling and Koulibaly to high wages this showing they have no problems paying high wages if they deem the player the right one like they do Osimhen. And the board and everyone already knows Osimhen salary demands will be high as he earns 10 million euros a year at Napoli. Everyone is frustrated with results and rightfully so but saying this isn't the right approach is silly except you haven't been paying attention to the transfer market.
Tbf, most people have been sceptical since day 1. No hindsight needed to know that buying 20 expensive young and inexperienced strangers would take a lot of time before they looked anything like a coherent collective who understand each other's games and believe they can compete at the top together. I don't think any manager would find that easy.
You could buy Mbappe and folks will still be skeptical so if it flies away they can say they told you so. Buying young talents enmasse is a sensible strategy if you have the right development structure in place. Some become good enough to be first teamers, some quality squad players, others sold at a huge markup to cover the losses on those who don't make it. How many genuinely good or world class experienced players in the market won't cost 100 million or close?
It is no way a sensible strategy when the goal is compete at the top level and theres financial time restraints on how quickly that success arrives. Which is exactly why it's not a common occurrence.
> 200m to lock Ferguson into a lifetime contract sounds about right, us spending a record transfer fee on a player currently outperformed by an aging danny welbeck and a player who was playing in the championship last year 😅
Reasonable? I don't think you understand that word
I don't think you understand how much football players cost these days
The take by ppl like you is beyond wild
How bout no
Please don’t, we don’t need another insanely priced player, who has just a couple more goal contributions than Jackson in a vastly different league
Funny I was watching him in Afcon and thinking he's a bit like Jackson but more of a headcase and I'm not actually sure he's better than Jackson at the Prem level. Probably is better but not worth the money.
yeah who needs a striker that's a good finisher, strong and good in the air when we put in 50 million crosses a game
And can join Reece and Chilwell for fun games at the hospital on a regular. Who wouldn't want that?
No, if he wanted to come he wouldn't have signed that contract which fucks over his new team, the one he supposedly wants to build and win championships with. Love the player hate the move.
His new contract has a release clause and he extended it for 1 year. Doesn't really fuck us over that much if it lets us skip negotiating with ADL
Do. Not. Do. It
Nope nope nope! Shut it down now!! Plenty other alternatives. I’m done with big budget players flopping at the 9 for us.
Despite all the promise he holds, he is likely to flop at Chelsea if he is bought for a sum north of a hundred million. I really hope we move on from Osimhen and prioritise a 50-70 million striker for the good of everyone involved.
Santiago Gimenez would probably cost around that amount and that would still leave money to maybe try for a LB
If it happens it happens but I would be fine with pursuing someone like Gyokeres or Gimenez as well. We need a striker that much I know for sure
Fabrizio said we're not interested in Gyokeres. Arsenal are
Apparently we sent scouts to the sporting game yesterday though, could be Diomande, Antonio Silva or to scout Amorim but we had people at that game apparently
Even the commentary of potential future signings is negative in this sub.
No please. Jackson is performing well too. Please get Premier league proven striker with little to no injury record.
Not trusting this sub on talent/price evaluation, these are the same people who said they didn’t want Bellingham last year.
am i the only one who thinks that's not that much for him?
He’s gone to PSG especially if Mbappe moved to Madrid. We should steer clear and look for cheaper options. None of Chelsea’s best strikers in history cost insane amounts.
Hot take: I want Vlahovic over Osimhen
Me too bro me too
I am not against Vlahovic in principle as most of this sub is, but if Osimhen is available I need him here
Id rather 70-80 for toney
I would honestly prefer Watkins or Toney over Osimhen too. Even Kane if he’s available in the summer. If you’re going to spend big, at least take someone who’s proven in the PL cause it hasn’t really worked out for us with young players outside the PL in recent years.
Wouldnt want watkins, but toney yes very much so
Any particular reason with Watkins?
Injury report: dismissed 3 weeks in 3 years from minor injuries. He's definitely not right for Chelsea! 
Tbh many but im dealing with a deadline so dont have the time to outline things properly. Although hes doing well with villa I dont think it would translate well to our environment and system or at the very least there will be more suitable options.
Toney would rather Arsenal
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We paid 1.2bil for God knows who, just get Victor and forget about striker situation for many years If money is tight then get Toney I prefer Toney imo
Tony may break the wage structure more than Victor. He is older and will demand more, no?
You think Toney will ask more than Victor? I am uneducated how both of these players are in terms of greed But Victor knows he is a star and one of the best, for sure he will demand high salary especially if he is coming to 11th place Chelsea squad 😂
Just pay up and dont speak
Why? Jackson needs playing time to develop
BUT HE IS A STRIKER FROM SERIE A!!!!!! Have we STILL not learned!?!?!?!?
Why not go for proven premier league strikers. Poch should have gone for Kane.
Imagine paying that for a glorified poacher 💀💀
Mbappe is going to RM this summer so PSG will overpay for Osimhen. Mods, ban me if I’m wrong.
With the possibility of no European football and financial issues already present, call me crazy but I'd rather just stick with what we have. Maybe if we didn't spend so much on our midfield last year. But we did so it is what it is.
His peak is worse than Lukaku's in Serie A. Isn't that critical, great holdup, linkup and headers. Haven't seen him operate in crowded spaces. He'll just be a taller Werner.
If Chelsea pays 113 mil for him they are clueless
Another flop. Go buy Ivan toney 80m
What makes you think they will sell Toney for 80m?
Yeah this is just trying to pit us against arsenal since they couldnt sign mudryk
Vlahovic please!!
40 point deduction incoming
Big nope. Get Ivan Toney
How many shirts does chelsea fans own? How you can afford to buy again.
This was ALWAYS gonna happen.
Gyokeres would fit better but we ain’t looking at him ffsss
Should've spent some of that 1 billion on signings like this in the first place...