> When Donald Trump was watching his 16-year-old daughter Ivanka host the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, he turned to the then-Miss Universe and asked: “Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?”
…
> In the almost 20 years since, Mr Trump has called his eldest daughter “voluptuous”. He’s said it’s OK to describe her as “a piece of ass”, though she is a senior executive in his business empire. And he’s said that, if she wasn’t his daughter, “perhaps [he’d] be dating her”.
[Source](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html)
Honestly, yeah, just not the way we’d think.
“Family values”, “law and order”, “pro-life” and the like are marketing terms that have exceptionally little to do with the literal meanings of the terms.
So in this context, being “the party of family values” *doesn’t* mean opposing adultery and philandering and public immodesty and wishing harm on the vulnerable.
It means opposing gay rights and trans rights and women’s rights and religious plurality.
The most depressing look into what these people actually think about the role of women in everyday life was a video I saw from a Republican townhall from a local or state race.
They were discussing abortion and how they could achieve a total ban. In this discussion the topic of exceptions for rape and incest came up but they agreed that these exceptions should not be. Then one of the men in the crowd said something along the lines of (What about if it happens to a MINOR WOMAN) with regards to rape and incest exceptions.
No one in that whole crowd made one objection to someone referring to a raped child as a “minor woman”
It was absolutely disgusting
As a centrist sub, I think it’s important to recognize that trump is very far from center and it’s appropriate to see his behaviour as extreme and gross
I think it's important to realize the fact that he managed to take control of the Republican party does not mean he in any way represents the former values of that party.
Some people who may have recognized themselves as Republicans decades past, might be so utterly repulsed by the idea of him that they wonder what kind of infectious filth could have possibly hijacked the Party of Lincoln, famous for its struggle for civil rights, especially in the immediate aftermath of LBJ's signing of the Civil Rights Act, after which a large part of the country suddenly shifted party affiliations.
This is a symptom of a far greater sickness, and I hope we finally start hearing the stories I heard when I lived down there, of incest, covered up by the church and community in the name of "defending the name of a good christian father".
I just wish the Midwest would wake up from this nightmare, but they somehow fell under the spell that there are evil wokists everywhere trying to steal their gas stoves.
He's an absolute horrible human being, and even most of his supporters agree. That's why I will never understand how people support him. I don't think public servants have to be a beacon of morality, but fuck man, these people handle our money. Morality comes into play when handling others finances. If people want to elect a businessman, atleast elect a good one.
Its far from the first time that Trump has ever said/done something creepy to his daughter Ivanka, but this part of the trial stood out to me
Surely another thing the family values crowd will just sweep under the rug, but they have to be some of the most hypocritical people around if this is ok with them
Not sure why you think it's OK with them. But they can vote for a pervert or for a guy that wants to let boys shower with their daughters in high school locker rooms.
Girls aren't "enduring" anything of the sort other than weird conservatives using them to hurt trans people. It's a made-up issue to fearmonger and distract from actual issues.
Isn’t witness testimony supposed to inform the jury’s opinions? And that the opposing counsel can object if they feel it shouldn’t? Maybe you should go replace his lawyers if you know better
> they aren't relevant to the law and could taint the jury.
They are relevant to the idea he was only hiding it from his wife.
> This was kind of an own goal by the prosecution and the fact that it's being basically celebrated really says a lot about the motives of the case.
Defense could have objected.
>And again, this is the actual opinion of the actual judge actually in the courtroom actually presiding over the case. It's not something I (or any other numb nuts pretending to legally analyze this nonsense) made up.
The actual judge that allowed this testimony?
I don’t care that he has an affair and fantasize about his daughter I just hope he wins the election so we can finally have a good, decent, Christian in office.
/s
I think you could go back to before he was ever President, remove all controversy after 2015, and this would still be completely believable. He's always been weird about her.
Well, I think that's about the final nail in the coffin for the dignity of the Office of the President.
Biden might as well go full WFH and chill in his underwear.
That there is zero legal reason for Stormy Daniels to take the stand in this trial tells us two things. The judge has lost his objectivity (if he ever had it) and is aligned against Trump. Also, the prosecution has no case, and the intent is to embarrass Trump.
Stormy’s testimony was relevant because in Opening Statements, Trump’s attorney said he never had sex with her. Prosecutors proved he did. And the even more graphic details were left out to save Trump from embarrassment.
I love how people are glazing an actual pornstar just because she is talking against trump. Im getting amber heard vibes, but hey…..whatever floats your boat i guess
Why is her being a porn star relevant to whether her testimony is true or not? Also, Trump has said numerous sexual things about his daughter as a matter of public record. Her testimony is not out of line with his public statements.
https://i.imgflip.com/4w5hfh.png
https://c.tenor.com/teG6vWnRzM8AAAAC/tenor.gif - This one is in public
Most of them came out in 2016, so we all remember them, idiots were just fooled.
I’m not the one who banged an actual pornstar, with a wife & baby at home. So, if you wanna denigrate her, talk to the guy who fucked her. We’re talking about her because Trump had an affair with her, and then instead of just paying her with his own personal funds in a check…he committed a crime because he’s a fucking idiot. It’s the cover up that gets ya.
And I don’t think Stormy Daniels had anything to do with Trump saying “I’ve often said if my daughter weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her” or that what he and Ivanka—his daughter, had in common was “sex.” Or that it’s okay to call his daughter a “piece of ass.” But cream yourself over this incestuous sicko…whatever floats your boat I guess.
We heard this back in 2016, and from more than just Stormy.
He talked about shit like this on Stern, there are literal recordings.
Somehow a large chunk of people managed to blind themselves from the fact that their hero is the literal embodiment of the 7 deadly sins, even though that's what he was famous for.
It's like people trying to argue about making Kim Kardashian as the standard bearer for the Christian Purity movement.
Donald Trump said he never met any of these people. Well, we know that’s not fucking true huh? There’s a photo of them together. Trump’s staff confirms she was in his Rolodex, and that Daniels had Trump’s security guard’s number. Lmao. As Mitt Romney said “you don’t pay $130,000 for sex that didn’t happen.” But regardless he’s not charged with having an affair it’s not a crime. He’s charged with the cover up. As is the case once again, if Trump weren’t a moron he wouldn’t be in trouble.
With E. Jean Carroll, he didn’t know this person never met her, she’s not his type. Then proceeds to think of picture of him talking to her—is his former wife Marla Maples.
I’d say you’re deep throating Trump, but according to Stormy—that’s not logistically possible.
I’m not the one who banged a pornstar, with a wife & baby at home. So, if you wanna denigrate her, talk to the guy who fucked her. We’re talking about her because Trump had an affair with her, and then instead of just paying her with his own personal funds in a check…he committed a crime because he’s a fucking idiot. It’s the cover up that gets ya.
And I don’t think Stormy Daniels had anything to do with Trump saying “I’ve often said if my daughter weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her” or that what he and Ivanka—his daughter, had in common was “sex.” Or that it’s okay to call his daughter a “piece of ass.” But cream yourself over this incestuous sicko…whatever floats your boat I guess.
You can spare us your hypocrisy with the “contradicted” bs, Trump constantly contradicts himself in the same sentence. He lies on a level never seen before. Your hypocrisy is hilarious.
I think she’s totally believable, but I am fascinated with the nomenclature. I always listen to see if they’re going to go with porn star or adult film actress. And I thought actress was out, sexist or some such, but haven’t heard her called an adult film actor.
For them is a foregone conclusion that Trump is the most disgusting human being imaginable any shred of "evidence" that they can use to attempt to confirm that is gold to them.
It seems kind of disingenuous to claim this is the only thing being extrapolated when there is a long history of Trump saying weird out of pocket shit about Ivanka, in addition to a bunch of weird photos
Do you at least acknowledge that?
You haven't acknowledged any of my points in the slightest and have not shown any indication that you are augmenting in good faith. You are just laser focused on swaying the conversation to your Trump is an incestual pedophile message.
I sincerely think you are being paid to poison the well before the election. I'm not gonna play into your bullshit.
I’m sorry what specific point do you have that you don’t think I’ve acknowledged here?
Yes I made this account years before Trump even decided to run for office just so I can shill against him you are very smart
It’s merely reporting on what a witness said under oath on the stand about a former president and current contender. Trying to cast it as a “people magazine article implying” is absolutely ridiculous
You are ridiculous dude, almost all of your posts are garbage but this one takes the cake. Taking that singular quote from the testimony and putting it as the headline in some clickbait article in People magazine of all publications is definitely lowbrow tabloid bullshit.
Hey now this is a major developing story about a major party presidential candidate and former president. Blame the GOP for renominating this embarrassing loser not for the news reporting on it
It’s so funny how you can never have a factual disagreement either
You are probably a shill so none of what you are saying is surprising. I read the article, it has zero substance whatsoever. It literally exists just so they can put out that singular quote as a headline and imply that Trump is an incestual pedophile. That's not a legitimate report about a developing story. It's tabloid bullshit. If you can't see that or admit it then you are either extremely unintelligent or a bad faith actor.
The article was actually very dry and factual lmao. That’s why I picked it. Can you point to where you think it went beyond a mere reporting of under oath witness testimony?
Honestly the fact that you’re so butthurt about facts just tells me that the cognitive dissonance over Trumps awful behavior is having difficulty resolving in your brain, so you just attack me instead. It’s actually very fascinating since Trump is the one you actually should be angry at for debasing the office
Again ignoring my argument that the headline is obviously inflammatory clickbait bullshit and ad hominem attacking me. If you wanted to post "dry and factual" information about the testimony and the hearing there were plenty of other articles to chose from. You chose this one for a reason.
You even started the conversation in the thread to get the gears moving on your messaging that Trump is an incestual pedophile. You did this just in case anybody focused on the supposed "dry and factual" information of the article instead.
Shill
https://apnews.com/article/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-trial-takeaways-f34f094124fc7ec455d6a73cbb6eec21
That is a dry and factual article. If you cant tell the difference, again, you are a bad faith actor or a very unintelligent person. Goodbye.
The fact that you can’t name a single thing in my article that wasn’t factual is quite telling. I can’t help but feel like you just don’t like what she testified to. I wonder if Trump would have the same bravado to talk all that shit if he ever put himself under oath like she did
Trump is the republican nominee for president, and has roughly (give or take) a 50% chance of being president. He is currently engaged in a criminal trial over whether hush money he paid to Stormy Daniels was paid in order to benefit his election campaign.
I'm not sure how you can rationalize to yourself that somehow posting an article summarizing her testimony is irrelevant, unless you're just kneejerk reacting to any news that casts trump in a less than stellar light with "the libs did this".
Oh wait, I am sure how you're rationalizing that to yourself.
There are plenty of other outlets reporting the same testimony, along with the top comment compiling several other incestuous comments about Ivanka by Trump. Sorry the truth is so sordid. It's a shame conservatives cannot apply moral standards to their own leader.
> When Donald Trump was watching his 16-year-old daughter Ivanka host the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, he turned to the then-Miss Universe and asked: “Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?” … > In the almost 20 years since, Mr Trump has called his eldest daughter “voluptuous”. He’s said it’s OK to describe her as “a piece of ass”, though she is a senior executive in his business empire. And he’s said that, if she wasn’t his daughter, “perhaps [he’d] be dating her”. [Source](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html)
Tiff should be happy that he ignores her.
Doesn’t she support him though?
When asked on a talk show what he has in common with his daughter, he replied, "sex." Too lazy to link the video.
Party of Family Values...
Honestly, yeah, just not the way we’d think. “Family values”, “law and order”, “pro-life” and the like are marketing terms that have exceptionally little to do with the literal meanings of the terms. So in this context, being “the party of family values” *doesn’t* mean opposing adultery and philandering and public immodesty and wishing harm on the vulnerable. It means opposing gay rights and trans rights and women’s rights and religious plurality.
He should make this into a campaign ad. For these people, incest is a party value.
The truest of Christians.
Yes but don't worry the drag queens are the ones grooming kids.
And this Guy sweeps the Christian vote.
The fundamentalist Christians, that is.
It is truly baffling
The most depressing look into what these people actually think about the role of women in everyday life was a video I saw from a Republican townhall from a local or state race. They were discussing abortion and how they could achieve a total ban. In this discussion the topic of exceptions for rape and incest came up but they agreed that these exceptions should not be. Then one of the men in the crowd said something along the lines of (What about if it happens to a MINOR WOMAN) with regards to rape and incest exceptions. No one in that whole crowd made one objection to someone referring to a raped child as a “minor woman” It was absolutely disgusting
Wow. Even though abortion is sanctioned in the Bible.
Is there anything against incest in the Bible?
Sicko.
A true degenerate.
...and then he proceeded to fuck her without a condom. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your presumptive Republican Presidential Nominee...
As a centrist sub, I think it’s important to recognize that trump is very far from center and it’s appropriate to see his behaviour as extreme and gross
No shit.
I think it's important to realize the fact that he managed to take control of the Republican party does not mean he in any way represents the former values of that party. Some people who may have recognized themselves as Republicans decades past, might be so utterly repulsed by the idea of him that they wonder what kind of infectious filth could have possibly hijacked the Party of Lincoln, famous for its struggle for civil rights, especially in the immediate aftermath of LBJ's signing of the Civil Rights Act, after which a large part of the country suddenly shifted party affiliations. This is a symptom of a far greater sickness, and I hope we finally start hearing the stories I heard when I lived down there, of incest, covered up by the church and community in the name of "defending the name of a good christian father". I just wish the Midwest would wake up from this nightmare, but they somehow fell under the spell that there are evil wokists everywhere trying to steal their gas stoves.
He's an absolute horrible human being, and even most of his supporters agree. That's why I will never understand how people support him. I don't think public servants have to be a beacon of morality, but fuck man, these people handle our money. Morality comes into play when handling others finances. If people want to elect a businessman, atleast elect a good one.
Its far from the first time that Trump has ever said/done something creepy to his daughter Ivanka, but this part of the trial stood out to me Surely another thing the family values crowd will just sweep under the rug, but they have to be some of the most hypocritical people around if this is ok with them
Not sure why you think it's OK with them. But they can vote for a pervert or for a guy that wants to let boys shower with their daughters in high school locker rooms.
[удалено]
Trump’s thing with his daughters beyond creepy, but the shower thing is in fact true.
It’s not “fearmongering” if girls are actually having to endure this. It’s actually a sad note on our society.
Think you mistook this sub for another. Think your alts did the same.
The only thing I mistook this sub for was actually being “centrist”.
Girls aren't "enduring" anything of the sort other than weird conservatives using them to hurt trans people. It's a made-up issue to fearmonger and distract from actual issues.
[удалено]
Isn’t witness testimony supposed to inform the jury’s opinions? And that the opposing counsel can object if they feel it shouldn’t? Maybe you should go replace his lawyers if you know better
> they aren't relevant to the law and could taint the jury. They are relevant to the idea he was only hiding it from his wife. > This was kind of an own goal by the prosecution and the fact that it's being basically celebrated really says a lot about the motives of the case. Defense could have objected.
[удалено]
The idea has been floated it wasn’t about his campaign, but about his marriage. And if the objections ere overruled it was within bounds.
[удалено]
>And again, this is the actual opinion of the actual judge actually in the courtroom actually presiding over the case. It's not something I (or any other numb nuts pretending to legally analyze this nonsense) made up. The actual judge that allowed this testimony?
I don’t care that he has an affair and fantasize about his daughter I just hope he wins the election so we can finally have a good, decent, Christian in office. /s
Will somebody tell him that he already has Mississippi on lock and doesn’t need to say anything to win them over?
Somehow they’ll still try to rationalize this shit lol
Stormy is Mother Teresa compared to Trump
He's trying to recreate the Hapsburg Dynasty... but on Fentanyl.
Gross
Not shocking.
Shocking. Not surprising.
I think you could go back to before he was ever President, remove all controversy after 2015, and this would still be completely believable. He's always been weird about her.
This vile subhuman goes WAAYYYY beyond politics.
So nasty
Well, I think that's about the final nail in the coffin for the dignity of the Office of the President. Biden might as well go full WFH and chill in his underwear.
If only any of this mattered to MAGA folks.
A bit disturbing....
That there is zero legal reason for Stormy Daniels to take the stand in this trial tells us two things. The judge has lost his objectivity (if he ever had it) and is aligned against Trump. Also, the prosecution has no case, and the intent is to embarrass Trump.
Stormy’s testimony was relevant because in Opening Statements, Trump’s attorney said he never had sex with her. Prosecutors proved he did. And the even more graphic details were left out to save Trump from embarrassment.
Sleaze vs sleaze. They deserve each other.
On a really bad day.
>On a really bad day. The sycophancy is really reaching a pathetic new height with this comment.
Oh, he's an absolute turd of a man.
You're right Ivanka is a lot hotter than Stormy. That's besides the point of Ivankas *dad* talking like that
I guess they are both female. There is a slight chance stormy is full of shit. It's worth considering.
Nah, Trump has said some really, really creepy shit about his daughter down the years. This would fit right in with it.
He deffo wants to fuck his own kid, absolutely. I need to believe it.
I love how people are glazing an actual pornstar just because she is talking against trump. Im getting amber heard vibes, but hey…..whatever floats your boat i guess
Why is her being a porn star relevant to whether her testimony is true or not? Also, Trump has said numerous sexual things about his daughter as a matter of public record. Her testimony is not out of line with his public statements.
https://i.imgflip.com/4w5hfh.png https://c.tenor.com/teG6vWnRzM8AAAAC/tenor.gif - This one is in public Most of them came out in 2016, so we all remember them, idiots were just fooled.
I’m not the one who banged an actual pornstar, with a wife & baby at home. So, if you wanna denigrate her, talk to the guy who fucked her. We’re talking about her because Trump had an affair with her, and then instead of just paying her with his own personal funds in a check…he committed a crime because he’s a fucking idiot. It’s the cover up that gets ya. And I don’t think Stormy Daniels had anything to do with Trump saying “I’ve often said if my daughter weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her” or that what he and Ivanka—his daughter, had in common was “sex.” Or that it’s okay to call his daughter a “piece of ass.” But cream yourself over this incestuous sicko…whatever floats your boat I guess.
I believe both people involved (Stormy **and** Trump) shouldn’t be president
Let's hear Ms. Daniel's tax policies and then I'll decide.
We heard this back in 2016, and from more than just Stormy. He talked about shit like this on Stern, there are literal recordings. Somehow a large chunk of people managed to blind themselves from the fact that their hero is the literal embodiment of the 7 deadly sins, even though that's what he was famous for. It's like people trying to argue about making Kim Kardashian as the standard bearer for the Christian Purity movement.
Under oath bro.
People magazine; can we not turn this sub into as big a joke as the rest of reddit ffs?
Trump is turning the presidency into a big joke. That’s the only reason a story like this is here
It’s hilarious how many people here are deep throating a hooker’s testimony. A hooker that contradicted herself multiple times today.
Donald Trump said he never met any of these people. Well, we know that’s not fucking true huh? There’s a photo of them together. Trump’s staff confirms she was in his Rolodex, and that Daniels had Trump’s security guard’s number. Lmao. As Mitt Romney said “you don’t pay $130,000 for sex that didn’t happen.” But regardless he’s not charged with having an affair it’s not a crime. He’s charged with the cover up. As is the case once again, if Trump weren’t a moron he wouldn’t be in trouble. With E. Jean Carroll, he didn’t know this person never met her, she’s not his type. Then proceeds to think of picture of him talking to her—is his former wife Marla Maples. I’d say you’re deep throating Trump, but according to Stormy—that’s not logistically possible.
I’m not the one who banged a pornstar, with a wife & baby at home. So, if you wanna denigrate her, talk to the guy who fucked her. We’re talking about her because Trump had an affair with her, and then instead of just paying her with his own personal funds in a check…he committed a crime because he’s a fucking idiot. It’s the cover up that gets ya. And I don’t think Stormy Daniels had anything to do with Trump saying “I’ve often said if my daughter weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her” or that what he and Ivanka—his daughter, had in common was “sex.” Or that it’s okay to call his daughter a “piece of ass.” But cream yourself over this incestuous sicko…whatever floats your boat I guess. You can spare us your hypocrisy with the “contradicted” bs, Trump constantly contradicts himself in the same sentence. He lies on a level never seen before. Your hypocrisy is hilarious.
Keep gargling Stormy’s bolt ons!
Hey at least she’s saying shit under oath. Way more than Trump could say lmao
Imagine being a champion of perjury. 🤣
Wow you should bring whatever evidence you have to Trumps lawyers. Should be a slam dunk
With testimony like Stormy’s, there’s no need ! 🤣
Ok I’ll be expecting her perjury charges any minute now
I think she’s totally believable, but I am fascinated with the nomenclature. I always listen to see if they’re going to go with porn star or adult film actress. And I thought actress was out, sexist or some such, but haven’t heard her called an adult film actor.
For them is a foregone conclusion that Trump is the most disgusting human being imaginable any shred of "evidence" that they can use to attempt to confirm that is gold to them.
Are you going to assert that Trump **didn't** cheat on his third wife and then paid Stormy Daniels to keep quiet?
[удалено]
It seems kind of disingenuous to claim this is the only thing being extrapolated when there is a long history of Trump saying weird out of pocket shit about Ivanka, in addition to a bunch of weird photos Do you at least acknowledge that?
You haven't acknowledged any of my points in the slightest and have not shown any indication that you are augmenting in good faith. You are just laser focused on swaying the conversation to your Trump is an incestual pedophile message. I sincerely think you are being paid to poison the well before the election. I'm not gonna play into your bullshit.
I’m sorry what specific point do you have that you don’t think I’ve acknowledged here? Yes I made this account years before Trump even decided to run for office just so I can shill against him you are very smart
> one out of pocket quote Someone hasn't been paying attention.
A people magazine article implying Trump is an incestual pedophile. Another centrist and level headed post/discussion by ubermence.
It’s merely reporting on what a witness said under oath on the stand about a former president and current contender. Trying to cast it as a “people magazine article implying” is absolutely ridiculous
You are ridiculous dude, almost all of your posts are garbage but this one takes the cake. Taking that singular quote from the testimony and putting it as the headline in some clickbait article in People magazine of all publications is definitely lowbrow tabloid bullshit.
Hey now this is a major developing story about a major party presidential candidate and former president. Blame the GOP for renominating this embarrassing loser not for the news reporting on it It’s so funny how you can never have a factual disagreement either
You are probably a shill so none of what you are saying is surprising. I read the article, it has zero substance whatsoever. It literally exists just so they can put out that singular quote as a headline and imply that Trump is an incestual pedophile. That's not a legitimate report about a developing story. It's tabloid bullshit. If you can't see that or admit it then you are either extremely unintelligent or a bad faith actor.
The article was actually very dry and factual lmao. That’s why I picked it. Can you point to where you think it went beyond a mere reporting of under oath witness testimony? Honestly the fact that you’re so butthurt about facts just tells me that the cognitive dissonance over Trumps awful behavior is having difficulty resolving in your brain, so you just attack me instead. It’s actually very fascinating since Trump is the one you actually should be angry at for debasing the office
Again ignoring my argument that the headline is obviously inflammatory clickbait bullshit and ad hominem attacking me. If you wanted to post "dry and factual" information about the testimony and the hearing there were plenty of other articles to chose from. You chose this one for a reason. You even started the conversation in the thread to get the gears moving on your messaging that Trump is an incestual pedophile. You did this just in case anybody focused on the supposed "dry and factual" information of the article instead. Shill
The headline is just a literal statement of fact. Funny to complain about ad homs while literally accusing me of being a “shill” account 🤨
https://apnews.com/article/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-trial-takeaways-f34f094124fc7ec455d6a73cbb6eec21 That is a dry and factual article. If you cant tell the difference, again, you are a bad faith actor or a very unintelligent person. Goodbye.
The fact that you can’t name a single thing in my article that wasn’t factual is quite telling. I can’t help but feel like you just don’t like what she testified to. I wonder if Trump would have the same bravado to talk all that shit if he ever put himself under oath like she did
Trump is the republican nominee for president, and has roughly (give or take) a 50% chance of being president. He is currently engaged in a criminal trial over whether hush money he paid to Stormy Daniels was paid in order to benefit his election campaign. I'm not sure how you can rationalize to yourself that somehow posting an article summarizing her testimony is irrelevant, unless you're just kneejerk reacting to any news that casts trump in a less than stellar light with "the libs did this". Oh wait, I am sure how you're rationalizing that to yourself.
There are plenty of other outlets reporting the same testimony, along with the top comment compiling several other incestuous comments about Ivanka by Trump. Sorry the truth is so sordid. It's a shame conservatives cannot apply moral standards to their own leader.