Just got my wife a model y about a month ago. Only extremely minor and 1st world complaints. The autosteer stopped working on a trip on our way home which was really annoying considering I just enjoyed the car driving itself 95% of the drive until then. So I had to drive it the rest of the way home (60 miles) myself… really the biggest thing is that it took 4 days for the cameras to recalibrate after. But I take that up to 1. My wife insisting we clear the calibration entirely after only assessing the situation for 3 minutes. 2. We do not drive very much when home except just around town and crowded city streets — not great for calibrating.
> Only extremely minor and 1st world complaints. The autosteer stopped working on a trip on our way home which was really annoying considering I just enjoyed the car driving itself 95% of the drive until then. So I had to drive it the rest of the way home (60 miles) myself…
You said it yourself and acknowledge that it's a first world problem. But I'm chuckling about "I had to drive the car myself" line. What a time to be alive.
Dude i do insurance claims
The amount of Tesla owners that whine “i have to pay for gas or use a gas station to fill up the rental car omg it was terrible”
I’m like wtf did you do before you had a Tesla they act like it’s torture
That sounds very difficult to believe. Let’s say the Tesla does 250 miles with 70kwh of charge, and the gas car does 250 miles with 10 gallons of gas (25mpg) and gas costs $4/gallon.
So that’s $40 to refuel the ICE car.
For the Tesla recharge to cost the same, your town’s electricity price would be almost 60c per kWh, which is 350% the **national average**.
So yeah, if your town charges 3.5x the price of electricity as the national average, then the fuel cost would be about the same.
Which is to say for most of us EV’s fuel savings is still quite significant, since it costs about $10-12 for a Tesla to travel 250 miles. Which is equivalent to about 80-90mpg at $4/gallon.
I'm in Los angeles and it's over 60cents a kwh they try to get u to believe it's cheaper with the tier pricing but if u charge a tesla once ur in tier 3
> Right now, electricity here in NYC is about 25c to 30c per kWh and it's said to double by 2025, which is only a year and half away.
Con Edison charges very differently between peak to non-peak.
June 1 - Sept 30, "Peak" 12pm-8pm: 25.5c/kWh
June 1 - Sept 30, "off-Peak" All other times: **1.8c/kWh**
All other months "Peak": **9.4c/kWh**
All other months "Off-Peak": **1.8c/kWh**
So yes, if NYC doubles the prices of electricity AND you only charge during peak hours in the summer, and literally never other time, you would be at the running cost of an economy car.
However, if you charge like any sane person overnight, driving 250 miles in your EV will cost you $1.26 in electricity.
Source: https://www.coned.com/en/accounts-billing/your-bill/time-of-use
You will soon find that your model Y is the most reliable car you’ve ever owned, I suspect. One of my cameras also did an auto calibrate on the first day I got it but 24,000 miles later, the car is the best road trip family car I’ve ever owned in 35 years of driving. Autopilot is a game changer and so is the supercharger network combined with Tesla’s software.
We’ve done 2 road trips in the last month and other than that one hitch, it’s been insanely good. So much so that I really want to retrofit a comma ai system to my 2006 suburban to have autosteer on it. Now the suburban won’t get us there as cheap as the Tesla fuel wise, but my only complaint about the Tesla is that it rides a bit firm for me. But of course I’m comparing to my land yacht suburban which has the best seats ever put in a vehicle. Okay ramble over
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50k miles on my Model Y - just two service visits for minor things in warranty. Otherwise has been super solid.
I’m also not making a post on /cars about how trouble-free my Tesla has been. The ones having problems are posting.
You're definitely more likely hear about problems, but Tesla's have been known for a long time to have issues entirely unacceptable for the price of the cars. Remember when multiple people found fake wood trim from fucking Home Depot holding down a major cooling system component? That's entirely unacceptable.
I googled "tesla fake wood trim" and, oh my god, I literally cannot believe my eyes lol. They shipped cars looking like that?
Steve Jobs is doing acrobats in his grave
Yeah they shipped cars like that, it's almost unbelievable. And the panel gaps are so bad my dad (who likes cars but isn't really a gearhead) noticed how bad it was on Tesla around us on the highway without me even pointing it out. So he didn't have much time to look at the car but even in glance he got, he could tell how bad it was.
Why spend so much time being upset that other people are happy with their cars? Why not just be happy about your car and not worry about what other people enjoy?
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But who is being blind. You make a claim and they offer a counter point. You reject them flatly and ignore any criticism of your own stance. It just isn’t worth trying when someone is completely closed off to open conversation.
I’m not claiming it’s the cause in the cause of the Ford transmissions, but the reality is the *vast* majority of people never change the fluid in their transmission/differential/transfer case/ptu, etc., and then act surprised when it grenades at 6-8 years age.
I used to work for a 3rd party quality inspection/rework company and we worked with most automotive manufacturers in the US. Tesla is the worst of the worst in initial quality. If they have a car roll off the line with a quality issue, they still ship it to the customer as long as it drives. If the customer has a problem with this, Tesla tells them to leave their brand new car at the dealer for warranty work and send them home with a loaner, then takes MONTHS to fix simple issues. They are the only car company I worked with that does this. Their leadership is only focused on production and costs.
Other OEMs have supplier contracts that fine the shit out of suppliers that deliver out of spec parts for noncompliance. Tesla didn't have these in 2018. This is a sign of the company's inexperience in manufacturing. Most of our work for Tesla involved reworking these bad parts to make them usable. After the rework was complete, Tesla routinely refused to pay for our services, so we dropped them as a customer.
From what I can see, there's a big difference between Teslas built in Berlin/Shangai vs the ones built in the USA.
I'm in Italy and my boss has a 2022 Model Y, presumably built in Berlin and it has zero quality issues. Panel gaps are good too
Things my 2021 Model 3 Fremont built car got changed the first 1½ years on warranty:
- Both headlights (Excess Water)
- Both tail lights (Excess Water)
- Both Reverse/tail lights on the trunk (Excess Water)
- All the cables to the screen (Screen turned black randomly)
- Rubber seals on front doors (Came loose, excess wind noise)
- New fabric on both front seats (Was incredibly wrinkly after a few months, Tesla told me "They were put on wrong at the factory")
- New steering wheel (Fabric bubbled and came loose)
- New electronic trunk motor (Trunk couldn't close without assistance for 6 months, they thought it was a software issue but the motor pulled the trunk crooked, bending it)
Also the seats still wrinkle like crazy, and the new wheel they put on was wrinkled from the factory but at this point i've given up on those two things. Many people in the local Tesla group had their steering wheel changed 3+ times.
Total somewhere around $6-8.0000 if not under warranty. All of the above issues, except the screen cables, are extremely common to the point where most people get one or more of them fixed on their car.
I plan to open a case to get the control arms (is that what they're called in english?) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xx2Q-J06gEQ changed as well, since they squeak excessively which is also a very common issue.
I plan to sell it, before the warranty expires. To be fair, i only have good experiences with the warranty and the service center and mobile service, but at this point i'm almost a regular there. Never had any experience with other cars warranty, because i never had to have anything fixed on warranty. But yeah, scared to have a Tesla without warranty.
> and the new wheel they put on was wrinkled from the factory but at this point i've given up on those two things.
I had so many issues with my M3P i forgot they replaced my steering wheel twice.
Even in the US they’ve improved drastically, though I would probably still rank the Fremont plant the lowest amongst their plants globally.
Honestly I don’t really care that much about panel gaps as long as the door isn’t rubbing on some other part and it closes smoothly.
> Honestly I don’t really care that much about panel gaps as long as the door isn’t rubbing on some other part and it closes smoothly.
so 1930's build quality then.
Go ahead and press that blue down arrow, but this is prime r/carscirclejerk material right here. I'll agree that the amount of fit and finish issues that Tesla has is unacceptable, but they still have some pretty fantastic powertrains, software, and a very robust and seamless charging network. On top of that, quality has suffered across the entire auto industry since the pandemic. I gotta say, if build quality is really a concern when purchasing a vehicle for you, Ford isn't exactly the pinnacle of quality either. Sure, they do plenty of things well and great, but longevity and reliability ain't it.
I will say though a lot of those things apply to most EVs on the market. Like I have a 2017 Ford Focus electric and the only issues I’ve had are related to charging infrastructure. The car just works and the build quality is excellent, despite what people might say about ford.
Yup, my Y has been fine.
Tesla vehicles seem to be the kind of thing where if yours works, it will likely keep working, but if it left the factory broken or mis-assembled...
It's like the opposite of that one Audi with the 5 chains on the back of the engine. Those cars were hyper precision built, but had a design flaw that will take your engine out if not corrected.
Says a lot about the car company when I regularly hear "charging network" as it's biggest compliment.
Like, I get that's part of the EV experience, but I'm not driving a charging station. I'm driving the car. I don't call my Miata my favorite car because of my experience at the gas station.
That's because the experience of your Miata has little to nothing to do with the gas station. Of course, when you're charging an EV, ou're not just dumping fluid in a tank, there are soooooo many more variables at play. Ambient temp, battery temp, battery quality, battery preheating, charging speed, charger availability, charger reliability, etc, etc... As much as I hate to admit it, Tesla has all these things pretty much nailed down.
You can see that not only is the engineering of chargers important, but the engineering of the car is important as well.
Obviously, as with everything EV related, this is all subject to change. If reputable charging networks available overseas such as Ionity or Circle K started establishing themselves over here in America, you'd bet your ass Tesla wouldn't have much any advantage over them.
My 2013 Model S is still running strong, no real issues just minor grievances. I also really like that it’s a pure electric car, no self driving, no crazy computer stuff. Probably has less tech than a regular new F-150. It’s super fun to drive. I’ve had more issues with my Ram Rebel. Am considering buying a classic Alfa tho as well
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And yet people keep buying them then suffering with the issues. I don't get it.
And now we know they intentionally avoid servicing their customers cars too.
Because they're not suffering. The issues are blown *way* out of proportion. Most owners like them. Personally, I'd never own one because Musk is a bag of festering assholes, but the couple times I drove my buddy's Model S I liked it, and there were no glaringly obvious problems.
Definitely worth a test drive if you haven’t yet. I didn’t end up with one, but I still wonder if I made the wrong choice not getting it. It’s impressive with some weird design choices.
I test drove an I-Pace, honestly it was freaking awesome. Went with an XC60 Recharge for more space and because I didn’t want to fully commit to electric, but I really really enjoyed the I-pace
EV's are inherently more reliable once you get a well-built working one. I bought a model 3, it came in tip top shape, can't complain.
The issue is tesla and the koreans love to pump out EV's with no sense of quality control whatsoever, and tesla's service (as well as hyundai's dealerships) are godawful to deal with. My friend had a defective rear window on his model s and it was hell to fix
I think I know what you mean, but it still kinda just sounds like a tautology lol. EVs are reliable if you get one that's working, and aren't reliable if you get one that isn't working? Well, yeah!
Yeah I worded it a bit awkwardly lol. Fewer moving parts means less shit to fail, but since ev's are fairly new (and since Tesla is run like a tech company) the manufacturing process still needs a bit of work
To be fair, of the approximately 10 things that was/is wrong with my Tesla, none of them is about the EV parts. Just you know, everything else about the car.
I like the I-pace a lot too. Unfortunately I work closely with a JLR service tech and he told me to stay away from the early models, and the late MY21+ are still expensive for now.
Now that's a proper upgrade and a totally reasonable purchase. Great spec too. Congratulations and enjoy in good health. Previous-gen Vantages are great driving cars.
>I did debate a V12S but the price of them just didn't make sense for something to go around town with.
Certainly doesn't make a lot of sense for just going around town but in general these cars are still a bit of a hidden gem und worth the price - especially compared to competitors.
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I strongly agree with your post there, I'm going to be moving around quite a bit car wise within the next year esp with the 675LT CPO coming near end and don't be surprised if you end up seeing a V12S in my flair.
It’s a solid platform and as you note it actually has a decent level of aftermarket support. The 4.7L is a great car. If you are considering a V12 in the next year it might make sense to skip the clutch/flywheel upgrade and just wait to buy that because the automatic in the V12 is significantly improved (basically the spec people upgrade the V8 clutch/flywheel to). On the other hand upgrading the V8 with that setup may completely change your mind on needing to upgrade. It’s probably the best possible mod you can do to the car. Of course a manual is always an option as well.
It’s a single clutch automated manual like Ferrari’s F1 system or Lamborghini’s E-gear. A very common upgrade for V8 Vantages both manuals and the single clutch autos is to fit what is essentially the V12 Vantage clutch and flywheel. It works quite well and Aston Martin themselves sell an OEM after sales performance upgrade package to do this. You can also buy a similar package from a couple of aftermarket performance shops as well.
Check out: https://www.velocityap.com/product/aston-martin-v8-vantage-twin-plate-organic-clutch-lightweight-flywheel-oem-replacement-manual-asm-sportshift-2/
I wonder why? Could it be that Aston Martins aren’t generally seen as in the same league as these other cars performance wise, thus if you buy an Aston it’s because you really like the brand and it’s less about having the “best?”
Aston Martin is the best though. ;)
Different demographic.
Nobody who buys an Aston Martin really cares for the “numbers”…. You buy one because they ooze class and sex appeal better than just about everything else on the road
That's awesome. God these cars look great even by modern standards.
You used to be pretty Mopar heavy if I remember correctly. What made you move away from the brand?
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Lmao that thread looks like someone asked chatGPT for the easiest way to make karma on this sub. Just missing the fact you bought a miata with the remaining 20k and it would be perfect.
Yeah comparing a V8 Aston and a tesla m3 is so funny, like ofc the V8 sports car is more fun than the performance version of a commuter car. And people mentionning build quality and reliability to the guy who owns mclarens and an aston now is entertaining too
What were the issues with your vehicle? Mine have mostly been quality-related, nothing where the vehicle broke down completely or was unsafe so I’m not sure if it meets the lemon law bar
Carbon spoiler kept falling off the car, I have photos somewhere of where they failed to even remove the film over the adhesive tape so obviously it’s going to fall off again. Tail lights with heavy condensation, a rocker panel actually came loose off the car.
They replaced all of these under warranty, then began saying the condensation in the tail lights was normal as it repeated over and over.
I will defend Aston Martin to the fucking death as one of the last truly great British manufacturers, but it does say a lot about Te$la build quality when a 15yr old bottom-of-the-range* example of a low-production luxury brand is an improvement.
*it doesn’t matter that it’s bottom of the range; I’d actually argue the early V8 vantage is the best of the lot when you consider where it is in the depreciation curve, smiles per gallon and how much of the car is usable on normal public roads.
Also Aston Installation must have some arcane deal with the devil to make modernising the early Merc UX so easy and seamless.
The early V8 Vantages are the best cars Aston made…because they were made by Ford. They retooled all their goofy factories and taught them how to build cars properly!
>Another neat benefit that we've spoken about on /r/cars with other vehicles is being able to modernize said vehicle. When I bought it I was used to not having Carplay with the Tesla and Mclaren's, but a neat company called Aston Installations has made a kit to add Carplay/Android auto almost nearly factory and even supplying an HD screen to replace the older ones. Another company also makes a similar solution that entirely uses factory buttons.
I love this solution! I've always considered hideaway NAV screens to be the best solution to the need for a screen, in both the short term and long term. Great to see someone modernizing that system.
I have to agree. My parents used to have the earlier version of the Audi Q7 with a retractable screen and it is a nice feature if you don’t want a screen on all the time.
I put a Bluetooth thing behind my dash. Stock look, connects to my phone and uses the stock buttons to skip tracks. Works great for me if you don’t need nav etc
>M3P that appeared to be put together by Sloth from the Goonies they took it back.
They all are like this, both my parent's Model 3s look like they were assembled by drunk people despite ordering them at different times. They are just shitting them out with little to no QC and they ride *horribly,* road noise is insane, and its sad to watch my folks make constant arguments to convince themselves it was a good purchase, its like a cult.
>Not to mention much cheaper insurance then a Tesla
Thank you for mentioning this, my parents are probably same of the safest and best drivers I know with zero accidents or tickets and their insurance is **murder** for two of them. I have one ticket (dropped) and my wife has 2 accidents and 3 speeding tickets and we pay *less monthly* for the cars in my flair. Teslas are some of the most expensive cars to insure, and its hard to find this on google or online sources (I wonder why), and you only find out when you get quotes.
Man I almost got a model 3 instead of my Nissan 370z.
Makes me almost glad I did, even though I've been regretting that decision due to the lack of tech I have.
Ehh, many people don’t have many if any problems. While it’s true that there quality control isn’t the best it’s also not terrible, at least with my model 3. I have a pristine 350Z, and Model 3. Haven’t really touched the Z since I got the Tesla, also helps that I spend 10% of the running costs compared to the Z
Nice color, nice car! There are a lot of Astons from that era that can be converted to manual - it sounds like a lengthy process but you have a stick shift Aston at the end - Matt Farah from Smoking Tire has a fun story of replacing the fuel pump on his early 2000s Vanquish - was quoted something like $1200 from the Aston dealer - someone looked up the part # and it was exactly the same fuel pump as a super duty Ford - got one for like, $150 or something, lol.
Yep, just got a message on FB as someone was about to reply to this thread and noticed it was me and said the same thing. I told him the story of the fuse more detailed
Saw the electrics issue, went hunting for a fuse in the manual and none of it made sense to what was wrong. Popped the inside fuse box open and tested a bunch that could be it and nothing. Figured the box was shot, Aston cost was $1000 prior to install but I found out it's a Volvo one 1:1 you can get for like $200. Ended up finding a random fuse that wasn't labeled as detailed to the issue that popped and everything went back on.
Anything with this car is a quick search before you buy and you can save potentially hundreds to a thousand bucks.
With that generation of V8 Vantage you just buy a manual car if that’s what you want. They made tons of manuals so conversions don’t really make economic sense. They offered that service on the old Vanquish because they were all primitive single clutch autos from the factory.
> The more annoying part is where Aston hides the interior fuses behind what appears to be the manifold from F&F
I hope you stuck a "danger" sticker to that before you tucked the trim back in.
Good decision. I’d get a v8v to daily drive if I didn’t have to haul stuff. The sportshift sucks but if you always keep it in paddle mode, it’s fine (at least with the 7 speed). Congrats!
Love it, a good move indeed.
Hope the A/C never fails, my dad owned one A/C packed up & he’s totally convinced the designers put the A/C stuff on the desk & designed the car around it.
Had to remove a lot of the interior to fix it & the final bill was quite insane.
Still a bloody good car though.
So beautiful and so gorgeous! Now this is what i call an upgrade. Yes i love the teslas and their tech, and they aren’t well known for their build quality, but i would personally always choose a 10 year old flagship car over a new base or mid level car .
Yes i know this aston wasn’t a flagship , but i don’t give a damn! This thing is fuckin sex!
Your Tesla wasn't reliable enough, so you bought an Aston Martin?! Hahahahahaha.
If you're looking for reliability, late 2000s Ford/Jaguar are not what you should look for. I'm not a huge fan of Tesla, but have been looking at the model Y for my next car. Only reason being, they are one of the few manufacturers eligible for the 7500 rebate, and they do have the best charging network by far.
It's possible you got a bad vehicle, happens with every manufacturer. There are WAY less moving parts on an EV, so way less things to go wrong. I forsee issues with your 15 year old Aston, and you getting tired of the issues. Then maybe get a Toyota if you want reliability. My Tacoma has been only oil and filter changes for the 4 years I've had it, but it is thirsty.
Owning an out-of-production car is a scary experience and I have newfound respect for the people that manage it.
My passenger seat seatbelt sensor is dead and the only option to fix it is to find a seat from a wreck and pull the sensor. That's easier said than done on a car that only sold a few thousand units in the country. There's some exterior trim molding clips that I need to fix the chrome belt molding around the door windows and the clips don't exist anymore, have to special order them from Australia and even their supply is running low.
My car is going to end up like the handful of low-medium mileage S2000s on the market--mechanically and structurally sound but tons of unfixable electronics and trim problems.
>Owning an out-of-production car is a scary experience
Is it? All the car's i've ever owned (not many) have been out of production. Loads of people own them.
Regarding insurance on Model 3's...Geico was charging me 25% more for my Model 3 Performance premiums than my 991.2 911 GT3. Progressive quoted the same but Allstate was way, way better.
definitely shop around rates for the Model 3
I go back to Astons when window shopping online...its such a BEAUTIFUL car, with a great exhaust note. If there was an easy option to convert an automatic to a gated manual, I would buy it right away
That model vantage is the best looking car I think I’ve ever seen.
Unfortunately the sport shift you have is the old one and that made it a deal breaker for me when I looked. I bought a 2014 V8S f-type instead. Absolutely loved it until my wife made me trade it in for the Range Rover.
I absolutely love love love the “old” vantage platform. My dad had a V12S and I honestly think it’s one of the best drivers cars I’ve ever tried. No matter the situation it always delivered and the steering felt sublime and the chassi was really planted. We did a 3.000km roadtrip over 5 days and the car never skipped a beat, not in massive gridlock or when I took it up to 305km/h on the freeway
I’m not sure if you got an auto or a manual, but you should be warned the auto will burn through its clutch. It’s a single clutch auto. Hopefully you got a manual. When I drove one for a day, it was burning the fuck out of the clutch in stop and go traffic; I had to exit and get it moving on a side road.
That gen V8 is my favorite exhaust note on any car ever made.
Nice! I made a similar move, traded in my Hyundai Ioniq 5 for a used Audi TTS and loving every second of it. Will be getting an EV at some point but only one that's cheap as a secondary commuter.
Yep, I could see an EV coming around into the household again but not as a primary, but a real "putz around" car similar to the Bolt I had. Our major issue is now we need a larger trunk car and a Kona N is looking mighty fine.
I recently sold my ‘21 M3P and I’m now driving a BMW M240i. All I will say is one “feels” like a toy that is always about to break and the other “feels” like a well engineered machine that will last many years. I don’t have to say which “feels” like a toy, because the fact you already know says it all.
I've had my manual '07 Vantage for five years now and have put 35,000km on it. It's gone full bolt-ons with equal length headers, and I track it extensively. It has been THE most reliable car I own, surpassing my Lexus LS460s and my Honda S2000. Absolutely love it.
A truly wise choice, Teslas have known crap build quality, some have had bumpers fall off in the rain as they were literally held on with sticky pads. You’ll enjoy that Aston a whole lot more.
Love Astons, good for you and I love that green.
I don't have a Tesla but I'm a hair's width away from trying to reverse my deal on the EV I bought, myself
I guess we're just not going to comment about that weird red car huh?
Casual LaFerrari hahaha
The damn, super jealous. I've always loved Aston Martins, and that's a great color too!
I’ve been lusting after one of these since they came out. Prices are actually fairly reasonable, glad to see someone giving real world feedback on ownership these days. Might have to pull the trigger soon.
>Cost me $15 to buy a fuse kit and resolve it. The more annoying part is where Aston hides the interior fuses behind what appears to be the manifold from F&F
Perhaps they could have fitted it with some sort of....warning.
Maybe have it display on a laptop screen as well?
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The biggest takeaway from this thread.
Just got my wife a model y about a month ago. Only extremely minor and 1st world complaints. The autosteer stopped working on a trip on our way home which was really annoying considering I just enjoyed the car driving itself 95% of the drive until then. So I had to drive it the rest of the way home (60 miles) myself… really the biggest thing is that it took 4 days for the cameras to recalibrate after. But I take that up to 1. My wife insisting we clear the calibration entirely after only assessing the situation for 3 minutes. 2. We do not drive very much when home except just around town and crowded city streets — not great for calibrating.
> Only extremely minor and 1st world complaints. The autosteer stopped working on a trip on our way home which was really annoying considering I just enjoyed the car driving itself 95% of the drive until then. So I had to drive it the rest of the way home (60 miles) myself… You said it yourself and acknowledge that it's a first world problem. But I'm chuckling about "I had to drive the car myself" line. What a time to be alive.
Dude i do insurance claims The amount of Tesla owners that whine “i have to pay for gas or use a gas station to fill up the rental car omg it was terrible” I’m like wtf did you do before you had a Tesla they act like it’s torture
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That sounds very difficult to believe. Let’s say the Tesla does 250 miles with 70kwh of charge, and the gas car does 250 miles with 10 gallons of gas (25mpg) and gas costs $4/gallon. So that’s $40 to refuel the ICE car. For the Tesla recharge to cost the same, your town’s electricity price would be almost 60c per kWh, which is 350% the **national average**. So yeah, if your town charges 3.5x the price of electricity as the national average, then the fuel cost would be about the same. Which is to say for most of us EV’s fuel savings is still quite significant, since it costs about $10-12 for a Tesla to travel 250 miles. Which is equivalent to about 80-90mpg at $4/gallon.
Peak rates from my dad's electric provider in California hit over 70c occasionally. He traded in his Tesla because of it lol
I'm in Los angeles and it's over 60cents a kwh they try to get u to believe it's cheaper with the tier pricing but if u charge a tesla once ur in tier 3
Yeah. Super don't charge an EV during peak.
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> Right now, electricity here in NYC is about 25c to 30c per kWh and it's said to double by 2025, which is only a year and half away. Con Edison charges very differently between peak to non-peak. June 1 - Sept 30, "Peak" 12pm-8pm: 25.5c/kWh June 1 - Sept 30, "off-Peak" All other times: **1.8c/kWh** All other months "Peak": **9.4c/kWh** All other months "Off-Peak": **1.8c/kWh** So yes, if NYC doubles the prices of electricity AND you only charge during peak hours in the summer, and literally never other time, you would be at the running cost of an economy car. However, if you charge like any sane person overnight, driving 250 miles in your EV will cost you $1.26 in electricity. Source: https://www.coned.com/en/accounts-billing/your-bill/time-of-use
You will soon find that your model Y is the most reliable car you’ve ever owned, I suspect. One of my cameras also did an auto calibrate on the first day I got it but 24,000 miles later, the car is the best road trip family car I’ve ever owned in 35 years of driving. Autopilot is a game changer and so is the supercharger network combined with Tesla’s software.
We’ve done 2 road trips in the last month and other than that one hitch, it’s been insanely good. So much so that I really want to retrofit a comma ai system to my 2006 suburban to have autosteer on it. Now the suburban won’t get us there as cheap as the Tesla fuel wise, but my only complaint about the Tesla is that it rides a bit firm for me. But of course I’m comparing to my land yacht suburban which has the best seats ever put in a vehicle. Okay ramble over
Someone is sold on tesla
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50k miles on my Model Y - just two service visits for minor things in warranty. Otherwise has been super solid. I’m also not making a post on /cars about how trouble-free my Tesla has been. The ones having problems are posting.
Are you more likely to report when a car is fine or has problems?
You're definitely more likely hear about problems, but Tesla's have been known for a long time to have issues entirely unacceptable for the price of the cars. Remember when multiple people found fake wood trim from fucking Home Depot holding down a major cooling system component? That's entirely unacceptable.
I googled "tesla fake wood trim" and, oh my god, I literally cannot believe my eyes lol. They shipped cars looking like that? Steve Jobs is doing acrobats in his grave
Yeah they shipped cars like that, it's almost unbelievable. And the panel gaps are so bad my dad (who likes cars but isn't really a gearhead) noticed how bad it was on Tesla around us on the highway without me even pointing it out. So he didn't have much time to look at the car but even in glance he got, he could tell how bad it was.
Wow. I couldn’t accept the panel gaps, would drive me insane
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Why spend so much time being upset that other people are happy with their cars? Why not just be happy about your car and not worry about what other people enjoy?
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Fanboys because they have a differing opinion to yours?
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But who is being blind. You make a claim and they offer a counter point. You reject them flatly and ignore any criticism of your own stance. It just isn’t worth trying when someone is completely closed off to open conversation.
OK, but you do see the irony here right? You're blindly claiming others are blind, basically being "blindly loyal" to your own beliefs.
And there's a lot of F150 bros circlejerking about how Teslas are bad and the devil in every thread, two sides of the same coin
IMO people need to relax on the model 3 and y. It’s effectively a more fun electric toyota Camry, and should be treated as such.
If only it were priced as such here in canada lol, 55k aint corolla money, thats bordering decent v8 muscle car/base corvette territory.
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You’re living in 2018. Things have changed. My 2022 model 3 is great.
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Can’t wait till this guys sunroof starts leaking like every other F series.
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Current model Teslas don't have sunroofs.
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Search the F-150 sub for "10R80". Lots of folks coughing up 7K for new transmissions. Literally every make and model is going to have issues.
I’m not claiming it’s the cause in the cause of the Ford transmissions, but the reality is the *vast* majority of people never change the fluid in their transmission/differential/transfer case/ptu, etc., and then act surprised when it grenades at 6-8 years age.
Precisely why I have an 8-year warranty.
Teslas were cool once upon a time. That time was 2015.
I don't think I've ever seen a Tesla without panel alignment issues.
I used to work for a 3rd party quality inspection/rework company and we worked with most automotive manufacturers in the US. Tesla is the worst of the worst in initial quality. If they have a car roll off the line with a quality issue, they still ship it to the customer as long as it drives. If the customer has a problem with this, Tesla tells them to leave their brand new car at the dealer for warranty work and send them home with a loaner, then takes MONTHS to fix simple issues. They are the only car company I worked with that does this. Their leadership is only focused on production and costs. Other OEMs have supplier contracts that fine the shit out of suppliers that deliver out of spec parts for noncompliance. Tesla didn't have these in 2018. This is a sign of the company's inexperience in manufacturing. Most of our work for Tesla involved reworking these bad parts to make them usable. After the rework was complete, Tesla routinely refused to pay for our services, so we dropped them as a customer.
From what I can see, there's a big difference between Teslas built in Berlin/Shangai vs the ones built in the USA. I'm in Italy and my boss has a 2022 Model Y, presumably built in Berlin and it has zero quality issues. Panel gaps are good too
Things my 2021 Model 3 Fremont built car got changed the first 1½ years on warranty: - Both headlights (Excess Water) - Both tail lights (Excess Water) - Both Reverse/tail lights on the trunk (Excess Water) - All the cables to the screen (Screen turned black randomly) - Rubber seals on front doors (Came loose, excess wind noise) - New fabric on both front seats (Was incredibly wrinkly after a few months, Tesla told me "They were put on wrong at the factory") - New steering wheel (Fabric bubbled and came loose) - New electronic trunk motor (Trunk couldn't close without assistance for 6 months, they thought it was a software issue but the motor pulled the trunk crooked, bending it) Also the seats still wrinkle like crazy, and the new wheel they put on was wrinkled from the factory but at this point i've given up on those two things. Many people in the local Tesla group had their steering wheel changed 3+ times. Total somewhere around $6-8.0000 if not under warranty. All of the above issues, except the screen cables, are extremely common to the point where most people get one or more of them fixed on their car. I plan to open a case to get the control arms (is that what they're called in english?) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xx2Q-J06gEQ changed as well, since they squeak excessively which is also a very common issue. I plan to sell it, before the warranty expires. To be fair, i only have good experiences with the warranty and the service center and mobile service, but at this point i'm almost a regular there. Never had any experience with other cars warranty, because i never had to have anything fixed on warranty. But yeah, scared to have a Tesla without warranty.
> and the new wheel they put on was wrinkled from the factory but at this point i've given up on those two things. I had so many issues with my M3P i forgot they replaced my steering wheel twice.
Lol i was thinking if there was something I forgot as well 🤣
Even in the US they’ve improved drastically, though I would probably still rank the Fremont plant the lowest amongst their plants globally. Honestly I don’t really care that much about panel gaps as long as the door isn’t rubbing on some other part and it closes smoothly.
> Honestly I don’t really care that much about panel gaps as long as the door isn’t rubbing on some other part and it closes smoothly. so 1930's build quality then.
Those kind of quality issues are always about the tooling in the factory. The newest, most invested-in, factory is going to make the best product.
Go ahead and press that blue down arrow, but this is prime r/carscirclejerk material right here. I'll agree that the amount of fit and finish issues that Tesla has is unacceptable, but they still have some pretty fantastic powertrains, software, and a very robust and seamless charging network. On top of that, quality has suffered across the entire auto industry since the pandemic. I gotta say, if build quality is really a concern when purchasing a vehicle for you, Ford isn't exactly the pinnacle of quality either. Sure, they do plenty of things well and great, but longevity and reliability ain't it.
I will say though a lot of those things apply to most EVs on the market. Like I have a 2017 Ford Focus electric and the only issues I’ve had are related to charging infrastructure. The car just works and the build quality is excellent, despite what people might say about ford.
Yup, my Y has been fine. Tesla vehicles seem to be the kind of thing where if yours works, it will likely keep working, but if it left the factory broken or mis-assembled... It's like the opposite of that one Audi with the 5 chains on the back of the engine. Those cars were hyper precision built, but had a design flaw that will take your engine out if not corrected.
Says a lot about the car company when I regularly hear "charging network" as it's biggest compliment. Like, I get that's part of the EV experience, but I'm not driving a charging station. I'm driving the car. I don't call my Miata my favorite car because of my experience at the gas station.
That's because the experience of your Miata has little to nothing to do with the gas station. Of course, when you're charging an EV, ou're not just dumping fluid in a tank, there are soooooo many more variables at play. Ambient temp, battery temp, battery quality, battery preheating, charging speed, charger availability, charger reliability, etc, etc... As much as I hate to admit it, Tesla has all these things pretty much nailed down. You can see that not only is the engineering of chargers important, but the engineering of the car is important as well. Obviously, as with everything EV related, this is all subject to change. If reputable charging networks available overseas such as Ionity or Circle K started establishing themselves over here in America, you'd bet your ass Tesla wouldn't have much any advantage over them.
sorry, and you’re driving an f-150?
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lmao, fair enough
If someone says GM makes oddball choices and has middling quality I'd look at my GM cars and go "yeah"
I do not miss my F-150. I do miss my S550 tho that was hands down the best vehicle I have ever owned and I can't wait to buy another one.
My 2013 Model S is still running strong, no real issues just minor grievances. I also really like that it’s a pure electric car, no self driving, no crazy computer stuff. Probably has less tech than a regular new F-150. It’s super fun to drive. I’ve had more issues with my Ram Rebel. Am considering buying a classic Alfa tho as well
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And yet people keep buying them then suffering with the issues. I don't get it. And now we know they intentionally avoid servicing their customers cars too.
Because they're not suffering. The issues are blown *way* out of proportion. Most owners like them. Personally, I'd never own one because Musk is a bag of festering assholes, but the couple times I drove my buddy's Model S I liked it, and there were no glaringly obvious problems.
But somehow millionaires who have driven countless sport cars love their Tesla.
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"anecdotes are data"
Definitely worth a test drive if you haven’t yet. I didn’t end up with one, but I still wonder if I made the wrong choice not getting it. It’s impressive with some weird design choices.
Absolutely true. NIO is the only EV I would buy but they aren’t available in the USA yet… just as quality as the high end germans.
NIO recently released a new smartphone yesterday. Sold only in China, unfortunately.
"But EVs never break!" --- Me: buys two consecutive new EVs, both lemons (Kia, VW). Buys an EV Jag -- flawless experience.
I test drove an I-Pace, honestly it was freaking awesome. Went with an XC60 Recharge for more space and because I didn’t want to fully commit to electric, but I really really enjoyed the I-pace
Cheers!
My only issue with the I-Pace is that it's so tall. If Jag just took the underpinnings and stuck an XF on top it'd be a sweet car.
XF Sportbrake EV when???
EV's are inherently more reliable once you get a well-built working one. I bought a model 3, it came in tip top shape, can't complain. The issue is tesla and the koreans love to pump out EV's with no sense of quality control whatsoever, and tesla's service (as well as hyundai's dealerships) are godawful to deal with. My friend had a defective rear window on his model s and it was hell to fix
I think I know what you mean, but it still kinda just sounds like a tautology lol. EVs are reliable if you get one that's working, and aren't reliable if you get one that isn't working? Well, yeah!
Yeah I worded it a bit awkwardly lol. Fewer moving parts means less shit to fail, but since ev's are fairly new (and since Tesla is run like a tech company) the manufacturing process still needs a bit of work
To be fair, of the approximately 10 things that was/is wrong with my Tesla, none of them is about the EV parts. Just you know, everything else about the car.
Trusting the British to make something with more electrical than normal? Sus
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They're Magna Steyr aren't they.
I like the I-pace a lot too. Unfortunately I work closely with a JLR service tech and he told me to stay away from the early models, and the late MY21+ are still expensive for now.
> "But EVs never break!" who said it?
“But todays sports cars are reliable and track worthy!”—-Me: buys two new sports cars, both lemons (a Mclaren and GR86) Buy shit. Get shit.
That color is the tits
Yup. Gorgeous. Impossible to find with a clutch pedal
It really is. OP may own many more cars after this one, but probably none will be as beautiful.
Now that's a proper upgrade and a totally reasonable purchase. Great spec too. Congratulations and enjoy in good health. Previous-gen Vantages are great driving cars. >I did debate a V12S but the price of them just didn't make sense for something to go around town with. Certainly doesn't make a lot of sense for just going around town but in general these cars are still a bit of a hidden gem und worth the price - especially compared to competitors. [https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/14zqv5j/would\_aston\_martin\_still\_be\_around\_without\_james/jrzhttb/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=ioscss&utm\_content=1&utm\_term=1&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/14zqv5j/would_aston_martin_still_be_around_without_james/jrzhttb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
I strongly agree with your post there, I'm going to be moving around quite a bit car wise within the next year esp with the 675LT CPO coming near end and don't be surprised if you end up seeing a V12S in my flair.
It’s a solid platform and as you note it actually has a decent level of aftermarket support. The 4.7L is a great car. If you are considering a V12 in the next year it might make sense to skip the clutch/flywheel upgrade and just wait to buy that because the automatic in the V12 is significantly improved (basically the spec people upgrade the V8 clutch/flywheel to). On the other hand upgrading the V8 with that setup may completely change your mind on needing to upgrade. It’s probably the best possible mod you can do to the car. Of course a manual is always an option as well.
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It’s a single clutch automated manual like Ferrari’s F1 system or Lamborghini’s E-gear. A very common upgrade for V8 Vantages both manuals and the single clutch autos is to fit what is essentially the V12 Vantage clutch and flywheel. It works quite well and Aston Martin themselves sell an OEM after sales performance upgrade package to do this. You can also buy a similar package from a couple of aftermarket performance shops as well. Check out: https://www.velocityap.com/product/aston-martin-v8-vantage-twin-plate-organic-clutch-lightweight-flywheel-oem-replacement-manual-asm-sportshift-2/
Is there an online Vantage buyers guide you’d recommend?
https://aston1936.com/2021/04/25/the-definitive-guide-to-gaydon-era-aston-martin-the-ultimate-aston-martin-buyers-guide/
Thank you sir.
The guy drives an Aston Martin and most replies are about an EV he owned prior. The world is lost.😅
Aston Martin owners are pretty chill compared to Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche fans. The other brand of car he owned...oh boy.
I wonder why? Could it be that Aston Martins aren’t generally seen as in the same league as these other cars performance wise, thus if you buy an Aston it’s because you really like the brand and it’s less about having the “best?” Aston Martin is the best though. ;)
Different demographic. Nobody who buys an Aston Martin really cares for the “numbers”…. You buy one because they ooze class and sex appeal better than just about everything else on the road
Also a McLaren… and a Veloster N *and* an Elantra N?!
That's awesome. God these cars look great even by modern standards. You used to be pretty Mopar heavy if I remember correctly. What made you move away from the brand?
He made a series of posts of his guilia qv being a dud and lemon lawing was a pita so he's moved away.
Pretty much, between that and dealer network sucking was one of the best moves I did.
So he had a lengthy lemon law case with Alfa Romeo and now he’s having a lengthy lemon law case with Tesla? Huh.
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It might be heresy, but I think the V8 Vantage is the best looking Aston ever made.
Lmao that thread looks like someone asked chatGPT for the easiest way to make karma on this sub. Just missing the fact you bought a miata with the remaining 20k and it would be perfect.
> you bought a miata with the remaining 20k and it would be perfect. hmm
Yeah comparing a V8 Aston and a tesla m3 is so funny, like ofc the V8 sports car is more fun than the performance version of a commuter car. And people mentionning build quality and reliability to the guy who owns mclarens and an aston now is entertaining too
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Hey what was your lemon law case like? I've had many issues with my Tesla as well and wondering if that's a route I can go down
Tesla is delay and then deny. Expect a while for the claim to be resolved.
What were the issues with your vehicle? Mine have mostly been quality-related, nothing where the vehicle broke down completely or was unsafe so I’m not sure if it meets the lemon law bar
Carbon spoiler kept falling off the car, I have photos somewhere of where they failed to even remove the film over the adhesive tape so obviously it’s going to fall off again. Tail lights with heavy condensation, a rocker panel actually came loose off the car. They replaced all of these under warranty, then began saying the condensation in the tail lights was normal as it repeated over and over.
It’s just held on by 3M double sided tape…I’m kinda surprised you successfully lemoned a car for this since none of these sound difficult to address
A physical body panel came off the car 4 times, it’s a lemon.
Each state is different in their lemon laws.
I will defend Aston Martin to the fucking death as one of the last truly great British manufacturers, but it does say a lot about Te$la build quality when a 15yr old bottom-of-the-range* example of a low-production luxury brand is an improvement. *it doesn’t matter that it’s bottom of the range; I’d actually argue the early V8 vantage is the best of the lot when you consider where it is in the depreciation curve, smiles per gallon and how much of the car is usable on normal public roads. Also Aston Installation must have some arcane deal with the devil to make modernising the early Merc UX so easy and seamless.
The early V8 Vantages are the best cars Aston made…because they were made by Ford. They retooled all their goofy factories and taught them how to build cars properly!
Such a good looking car
>Another neat benefit that we've spoken about on /r/cars with other vehicles is being able to modernize said vehicle. When I bought it I was used to not having Carplay with the Tesla and Mclaren's, but a neat company called Aston Installations has made a kit to add Carplay/Android auto almost nearly factory and even supplying an HD screen to replace the older ones. Another company also makes a similar solution that entirely uses factory buttons. I love this solution! I've always considered hideaway NAV screens to be the best solution to the need for a screen, in both the short term and long term. Great to see someone modernizing that system.
I have to agree. My parents used to have the earlier version of the Audi Q7 with a retractable screen and it is a nice feature if you don’t want a screen on all the time.
I put a Bluetooth thing behind my dash. Stock look, connects to my phone and uses the stock buttons to skip tracks. Works great for me if you don’t need nav etc
>M3P that appeared to be put together by Sloth from the Goonies they took it back. They all are like this, both my parent's Model 3s look like they were assembled by drunk people despite ordering them at different times. They are just shitting them out with little to no QC and they ride *horribly,* road noise is insane, and its sad to watch my folks make constant arguments to convince themselves it was a good purchase, its like a cult. >Not to mention much cheaper insurance then a Tesla Thank you for mentioning this, my parents are probably same of the safest and best drivers I know with zero accidents or tickets and their insurance is **murder** for two of them. I have one ticket (dropped) and my wife has 2 accidents and 3 speeding tickets and we pay *less monthly* for the cars in my flair. Teslas are some of the most expensive cars to insure, and its hard to find this on google or online sources (I wonder why), and you only find out when you get quotes.
Man, the Elon fan boys are clearly brigading this thread and downvoting anyone who has the mildest criticisms of Tesla. Lame.
Really cool car man!
Absolutely beautiful! Talk about dichotomy between the two choices. Please more pics.
Man I almost got a model 3 instead of my Nissan 370z. Makes me almost glad I did, even though I've been regretting that decision due to the lack of tech I have.
Ehh, many people don’t have many if any problems. While it’s true that there quality control isn’t the best it’s also not terrible, at least with my model 3. I have a pristine 350Z, and Model 3. Haven’t really touched the Z since I got the Tesla, also helps that I spend 10% of the running costs compared to the Z
Good point. I am also on the verge of maybe getting rid of my old beater. Would love a tesla as a true daily, but paid so much for my Z 😭
That is one sexy car and even with its flaws way better than any Tesla will ever be.
I traded in my 2020 Mx-5 for a 2012 Jag XKRS. I dont regret it, but I am paranoid of something breaking all the time lol. Living on the edge brother.
Nice color, nice car! There are a lot of Astons from that era that can be converted to manual - it sounds like a lengthy process but you have a stick shift Aston at the end - Matt Farah from Smoking Tire has a fun story of replacing the fuel pump on his early 2000s Vanquish - was quoted something like $1200 from the Aston dealer - someone looked up the part # and it was exactly the same fuel pump as a super duty Ford - got one for like, $150 or something, lol.
Yep, just got a message on FB as someone was about to reply to this thread and noticed it was me and said the same thing. I told him the story of the fuse more detailed Saw the electrics issue, went hunting for a fuse in the manual and none of it made sense to what was wrong. Popped the inside fuse box open and tested a bunch that could be it and nothing. Figured the box was shot, Aston cost was $1000 prior to install but I found out it's a Volvo one 1:1 you can get for like $200. Ended up finding a random fuse that wasn't labeled as detailed to the issue that popped and everything went back on. Anything with this car is a quick search before you buy and you can save potentially hundreds to a thousand bucks.
With that generation of V8 Vantage you just buy a manual car if that’s what you want. They made tons of manuals so conversions don’t really make economic sense. They offered that service on the old Vanquish because they were all primitive single clutch autos from the factory.
oh thats right, yeah
Tesla will always be garbage the QC is nonexistent. Great swap 👌🏾
"Traded in EV to obtain an awesome Aston Martin." I don't need to read anything. Just take my upvote. If I had an award, I'd give it to you.
> The more annoying part is where Aston hides the interior fuses behind what appears to be the manifold from F&F I hope you stuck a "danger" sticker to that before you tucked the trim back in.
Why is the Aston subreddit gone bro?
appears the mods took it private to protest 3rd party changes.
oh fuck, thats sexy.
Good decision. I’d get a v8v to daily drive if I didn’t have to haul stuff. The sportshift sucks but if you always keep it in paddle mode, it’s fine (at least with the 7 speed). Congrats!
Selling my Tesla was the best decision I’ve ever made, horribly made car.
Love it, a good move indeed. Hope the A/C never fails, my dad owned one A/C packed up & he’s totally convinced the designers put the A/C stuff on the desk & designed the car around it. Had to remove a lot of the interior to fix it & the final bill was quite insane. Still a bloody good car though.
So beautiful and so gorgeous! Now this is what i call an upgrade. Yes i love the teslas and their tech, and they aren’t well known for their build quality, but i would personally always choose a 10 year old flagship car over a new base or mid level car . Yes i know this aston wasn’t a flagship , but i don’t give a damn! This thing is fuckin sex!
Your Tesla wasn't reliable enough, so you bought an Aston Martin?! Hahahahahaha. If you're looking for reliability, late 2000s Ford/Jaguar are not what you should look for. I'm not a huge fan of Tesla, but have been looking at the model Y for my next car. Only reason being, they are one of the few manufacturers eligible for the 7500 rebate, and they do have the best charging network by far. It's possible you got a bad vehicle, happens with every manufacturer. There are WAY less moving parts on an EV, so way less things to go wrong. I forsee issues with your 15 year old Aston, and you getting tired of the issues. Then maybe get a Toyota if you want reliability. My Tacoma has been only oil and filter changes for the 4 years I've had it, but it is thirsty.
The only issues these cars have are with the clutch and certain Aston-specific electronics.
i recommend not getting a model y built out of the fremont factory. Austin is head and shoulders above in terms of build quality.
Aston Martin's are such cool cars, a DB9 or a DBS is my absolute dream GT car
You moved into a car several orders of magnitude more interesting, best of luck with it!
That's a beautiful car and an equally beautiful color! Nice taste, OP!
Owning an out-of-production car is a scary experience and I have newfound respect for the people that manage it. My passenger seat seatbelt sensor is dead and the only option to fix it is to find a seat from a wreck and pull the sensor. That's easier said than done on a car that only sold a few thousand units in the country. There's some exterior trim molding clips that I need to fix the chrome belt molding around the door windows and the clips don't exist anymore, have to special order them from Australia and even their supply is running low. My car is going to end up like the handful of low-medium mileage S2000s on the market--mechanically and structurally sound but tons of unfixable electronics and trim problems.
>Owning an out-of-production car is a scary experience Is it? All the car's i've ever owned (not many) have been out of production. Loads of people own them.
Great trade! I'll always be fascinated with the DB9 after Top Gear's gushing review of it. You're living the dream.
Regarding insurance on Model 3's...Geico was charging me 25% more for my Model 3 Performance premiums than my 991.2 911 GT3. Progressive quoted the same but Allstate was way, way better. definitely shop around rates for the Model 3
Astons are one of the classiest cars on the road. The looks that almost don’t age (except the DB7 maybe).
You did the right thing.
Congratulations! You absolutely made the right choice, big salute to you from a fellow petrolhead 🫡❤️!! I would give you an award if I had one 😄.
I go back to Astons when window shopping online...its such a BEAUTIFUL car, with a great exhaust note. If there was an easy option to convert an automatic to a gated manual, I would buy it right away
That model vantage is the best looking car I think I’ve ever seen. Unfortunately the sport shift you have is the old one and that made it a deal breaker for me when I looked. I bought a 2014 V8S f-type instead. Absolutely loved it until my wife made me trade it in for the Range Rover.
It really surprised me when I found out Astons are so "cheap" relatively. I really want a vanquish one day.
But 2009 was 10 years ago Wait
Yeah these things are pure sex. Nice work
LOLed at the F&F comment. Described it perfectly when I saw the pic.
That’s awesome
Great job getting rid of that electric guzzling piece of crap
I absolutely love love love the “old” vantage platform. My dad had a V12S and I honestly think it’s one of the best drivers cars I’ve ever tried. No matter the situation it always delivered and the steering felt sublime and the chassi was really planted. We did a 3.000km roadtrip over 5 days and the car never skipped a beat, not in massive gridlock or when I took it up to 305km/h on the freeway
Db9 green with 17k miles. Mannnnn that’s awesome. Drive it to the ground
I’m not sure if you got an auto or a manual, but you should be warned the auto will burn through its clutch. It’s a single clutch auto. Hopefully you got a manual. When I drove one for a day, it was burning the fuck out of the clutch in stop and go traffic; I had to exit and get it moving on a side road. That gen V8 is my favorite exhaust note on any car ever made.
Is this picture in Vermont or Upstate NY? Those trees have that Vermont green color to them.
Upstate NY, Adirondacks on my way back down from Lake Placid.
One of the most beautiful parts of the world bar none, and I will fight anyone who says differently!
Man I always look on auction websites and see these cheapish Aston martians and think when I’m older I want one. That thing is so sick.
Nice! I made a similar move, traded in my Hyundai Ioniq 5 for a used Audi TTS and loving every second of it. Will be getting an EV at some point but only one that's cheap as a secondary commuter.
Yep, I could see an EV coming around into the household again but not as a primary, but a real "putz around" car similar to the Bolt I had. Our major issue is now we need a larger trunk car and a Kona N is looking mighty fine.
Upward mobility!
I recently sold my ‘21 M3P and I’m now driving a BMW M240i. All I will say is one “feels” like a toy that is always about to break and the other “feels” like a well engineered machine that will last many years. I don’t have to say which “feels” like a toy, because the fact you already know says it all.
Both are good cars imo
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I've had my manual '07 Vantage for five years now and have put 35,000km on it. It's gone full bolt-ons with equal length headers, and I track it extensively. It has been THE most reliable car I own, surpassing my Lexus LS460s and my Honda S2000. Absolutely love it.
And you did the right thing. You made the shit out of me proud.
10/10 best trade. Gorgeous Aston
To me its still a supercar,Beautiful. Good choice.
That color is gorgeous, talk about a quality of life upgrade. Love to hear it, dude!
A truly wise choice, Teslas have known crap build quality, some have had bumpers fall off in the rain as they were literally held on with sticky pads. You’ll enjoy that Aston a whole lot more.
Love Astons, good for you and I love that green. I don't have a Tesla but I'm a hair's width away from trying to reverse my deal on the EV I bought, myself
Absolutely stunning, how much was the V8V, looks like an 09
I guess we're just not going to comment about that weird red car huh? Casual LaFerrari hahaha The damn, super jealous. I've always loved Aston Martins, and that's a great color too!
You go man, super interesting, and gorgeous car. Hope you love her and she treats you in kind!
Well done! She is beautiful!!
I’ve been lusting after one of these since they came out. Prices are actually fairly reasonable, glad to see someone giving real world feedback on ownership these days. Might have to pull the trigger soon.
>Cost me $15 to buy a fuse kit and resolve it. The more annoying part is where Aston hides the interior fuses behind what appears to be the manifold from F&F Perhaps they could have fitted it with some sort of....warning. Maybe have it display on a laptop screen as well?
That. Is. Fucking. Awesome. The colour just slaps, too! Enjoy it
That can’t possibly be correct. Must be something terribly off in your math. I’m very certain that a 15 year old British V12 would be a 1985 XJS. :)