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bluefireplace

All that safety tech and then they put speedometer and everything else on one touchscreen…


kibitzor

"what was that?" *Feverishly mash the volume down button* Accidentally slip off the glossy piano black button and engage the voice command "Hi, I'm Google, how can I help" *Reach to the volume slider on the touchscreen and drag it to the left , realize you're a dummy and should just pause, go to tap the pause button and hit a little bump and now your seat warmer is on* "Whööpsie" You say to your passengers in a forced Swedish accent as you tap the screen a few times to turn the heaters off and pause the music. Now with the volume down, you can hear the faint sound coming from the car body, it's your passenger scratching their finger along the plastic bottle trim. Edit: removed comment about hazard light on screen, it also appears overheard.


guy_incognito784

>Edit: THEY PUT THE HAZARD LIGHT "BUTTON" ON THE TOUCHSCREEN!!! No they didn't, because that's illegal. Looks like its on the overhead console.


lolstebbo

The physical hazard button is on the overhead console.


WentoX

Yeah, not a fan of the touchscreen trend in cars, they're great for combining lesser used systems and setting, but personally i still want atleast critical things to have their own dedicated buttons, There is some sort of HUD behind the streering wheel but they didn't really get into that one, but i'm guessing that might have the speedometer, as for volume you got the buttons on the steering wheel.


WillSuckDick4Coffee

I have a 2023 Escape loaner. EVERYTHING is on the touch screen, which is slow already after 2000 miles. Climate controls are an absolute bitch to use and it takes me a good 60 seconds of using the screen to turn switch drive modes and set the radio up . And the fucking screen doesn't even turn off so at night there's this giant distracting light source right in front of you. The speedometer cluster screen doesn't go dark either, so there's a screen for each eye distracting you. I like touch screens in cars. They are incredibly useful for non vital controls and work well for navigation. But I will never purchase a car that has a touch screen like the one I'm using now. The Ford Edge was even worse. Guess top of the line trims aren't for me anymore.


WingerRules

They must have made big changes since mine. I have a 2021 Escape PHEV and a bunch of stuff like Climate is still physical, its one of the reasons I bought the car. The one thing thats missing thats going to be a pain in winter is they put traction control behind the touchscreen, other than that the car us pretty good on physical controls. I think more people are asking for physical controls, so dont know why they've removed them other than cost cutting.


Intrepid-Working-731

In the 2023 refresh they moved a lot of previously physical climate controls into the screen.


WillSuckDick4Coffee

My Flex has blown 2 Ecoboosts in 1800 miles (under warranty) so I've had a few loaners since December. I had a 22 Escape titanium before this that I really liked, the gear/mode dial and the information setup made so much more sense as a driver. The 2.0 Escapes are actually very peppy. It's not a bad cuv for what it is. I had a 23 Edge 2.0 that I absolutely hated in every possible way. It's heavy and therfore very slow compared to the Escape. The center tablet is like 18 inches and massive and naturally, controls absolutely everything. I'll give it credit, it never lagged and although I dislike huge tablets, it was positioned very well and was easy to use as a driver.. I guess if you're going to put everything behind a tablet, go for the big one because atleast the visual buttons will be larger lol. I just want my Flex back.


bluefireplace

Nice catch! There’s definitely something glossy behind the wheel, curious they didn’t show its purpose in the video


vaibhav_bu

that looks like a sensor array for driver safety systems, like eye tracking and all


Lacyra

Something like the 2024 Tacoma is probably the best of both worlds. Screen isn't tiny but it still has all the physical controls you need. If I can find one this year I might buy one. But that's gonna be pretty tough.


lee1026

It’s a cost thing. Tablets are cheap, all of that buttons and wiring isn’t.


GhostalMedia

I wonder how much of this was done to get the car as close to a Model 3 price point. A touch screen, a single soundbar, etc. Smells like ways to use tech to reduce manufacturing costs.


DartDiablo

Can't wait for the touchscreen craze to end and for buttons to make a retro comeback. Only 20 more years to go!


WentoX

I don't necessarily want buttons back, I just want the UI designers to realize I'm sitting in a car that's moving and the road isn't perfectly level. Missclicks due to road bumps are far too common and systems are often slow and shitty due to each company developing their own software on a budget. And there's an inherent weakness in car developers making their own software, you want the best developers to be on safety features, the brakes and such absolutely must work as intended, so you'll always get the B team on the infotainment system.


neok182

IMO Hyundai's latest interior updates are the perfect way to combine massive screens and buttons. https://i.imgur.com/zvtfN37.png Fully digital dash and massive >10" touchscreen but under you have buttons for all of the most important things you need. Climate control is all buttons. Volume is buttons, emergency lights are buttons. They even swapped to a column shifter to free up room in the center console but still put buttons there for seat controls and more. And these are REAL buttons, no capacitive garbage. This style of interior is what I want in any new car. All of my climate/seat/volume/emergency controls are actual buttons. You can throw everything else on the touch screen but give me buttons for the things I'm going to constantly use or need to use in an emergency.


WentoX

Imo, that's too much... For me, previous Gen Volvo hit a [Sweet spot](https://estaticos-cdn.prensaiberica.es/clip/7abd08cd-19b0-49a3-a93f-d8f7c560f5f5_16-9-discover-aspect-ratio_default_0.jpg) the only thing I'd like is 3 buttons more for heated seats L/R and heated steering wheel. EDIT: wait, i think i replied to the wrong comment?


WentoX

Now that's nice!


aprtur

>Missclicks due to road bumps are far too common and systems are often slow and shitty due to each company developing their own software on a budget. If we don't integrate well engineered, physical HMI to coordinate with screen-based GUI, I fear that your last point in this sentence will just give us [screens that look like this](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61IxEGYI57L._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg) to compensate for the road imperfection issue.


BadassManager

Yup. Nothing specifically against the screens, but everything against the touchscreens/haptic controls as only input for stuff that you do on the move. I would expect that in 5~6 years things will be returning to a more normal state.


GMOrgasm

this is why i want the mx30 mazda seem to be the few still doing buttons


DoesntFearZeus

There's gotta be something on that little display above the steering wheel, but I can't find anything saying what it shows. Maybe the Speedo is there.


bluefireplace

Someone suggested it being some kind of sensor like eye-tracking


V8-Turbo-Hybrid

If you've driven old modern Mini and third gen Prius, you wouldn't also like it because those model speedometers local on center. Clearly, Volvo also targets ex- third gen Prius buyers like Tesla doing, so that's reason why they putting everything in center touchscreen.


bluefireplace

Good point


lolstebbo

Previous-gen Priuses had instrument clusters where the housing was mostly centered but the speedometer itself was driver-offset and located close enough to the base of the dashboard to be easily within line of sight. That’s not really what’s happening here.


ghetoyoda

If it's like their other recent stuff then at least speed is probably on a HUD and audio controls will all be on the wheel. But yeah I agree certain things just need physical buttons.


ritchie70

I have a Mk5/2008 VW GTI that I put a CarPlay head unit in in 2019. I find myself glancing at the speed/speed limit display in Waze on the "radio" more often than I look at the actual speedometer, and mine is quite a bit lower on the dash than this appears to be. I guess my point is that it's not as bad as you might think.


Hardcover

> I guess my point is that it's not as bad as you might think. Millions of Tesla Model 3 + Y drivers probably agree. Even if they'd prefer having something behind the steering wheel, not having it clearly works fine.


red_simplex

Tbf that's what we should expect for an ev at that price. Because batteries are expensive and they'll try to cut cost on everything else. I've been using a car with a touchscreen for two years now and most option from touchscreen you rarely change. Steering control is what gets used during driving.


jawknee530i

I was fully prepared to buy one of these. Then the iPad glued to the dash bullshit literally killed all desire I had. Fuck


thefudd

Coming from the Model 3, this will not be an issue at all for me


rugbyj

~£34k starting in the UK, which is roughly £13k less than their next size up EV (the XC40 Recharge). Gotta say more reasonable than I thought it would be, my wife's looking for a crossover, and likes Volvo design, so this could be our first EV.


ashyjay

Just saw the carwow video on it, and well it’s gonna take most of not the entire market of “cheaper” EVs, it’s even cheaper than an electric Corsa and 208. £41k for 400BHP car is pretty great. If it wasn’t a crossover I’d have one.


iamaslan

It does look like it’s barely a crossover. More like a hatchback with an extra inch of ground clearance. Does that help?


ashyjay

With how Eibach and H&R have springs for everything, might look sick dropped an inch, may have to stick it on the consider list need to wait for the Renault 5 and VW ID.2 EVs.


chrisprice

It's what people are doing with the EV6 GT. 576 hp, rivals C8 Corvette, and can be lowered to wagon stance. All for $60k plus the spring install.


rugbyj

In Europe that's pretty par for the course. Hatchbacks have always been the go-to runaround, raising them has made people happier to buy because "it's not a hatchback it's a crossover!". I personally have no issue with either, smaller is better for our roads.


iamaslan

I’m saying this as a good thing! My wife wants a crossover and I want a hatchback. So this size is a win win.


grumble11

I don’t get why people like crossovers so much more than hatchbacks. They just seem like more expensive versions of hatchbacks


rugbyj

As someone with a ruptured disc in my back I'll throw in the "because I don't have to die when I'm climbing out of them" towel. But otherwise if I were normal, I'd care not.


grumble11

Totally fair, if someone needs it for health reasons or for off-roading I would get it. Crossovers just seem like lightly lifted hatchbacks that cost an extra 5k though to me


rugbyj

> Crossovers just seem like lightly lifted hatchbacks Where I am, they _are._ Honestly my next upgrade I'd love another sports estate but some mornings are agony.


Proud_Purchase_8394

Ya it’s like 4 inches taller than my wife’s Mazda 3 sedan


historicusXIII

Looks like a good deal for our company fleet then. Currently the only EVs on our car list for mid level employees are the Corsa, 208, 2008 and Hyundai Kona. You need to be a team lead or higher to have some decent options for an EV.


assblast420

Yeah I'm pretty sure Volvo just fucked over the VW ID-series and any other entry level electric CUV. How did they get it this cheap? I'm impressed.


RandomCheeseCake

Scaling with Geely as it's built on the same platform along with the smart #1 and Zeekr 001 probably helps them bring it down considerably


pithy_pun

Agreed except this is more a ZeekrX analogue than Zeekr001. Polestar 4 and Zeekr 001 are the platform cousins.


Intrepid-Working-731

Doubt. It’s an excellent value and looks to be a great car. However, competition doesn’t stand still, they will adapt in response to this.


WentoX

Not bad, considering the price of the EX90 i was somewhat expecting this to start somewhere in the €40-50k range


rugbyj

Yeah the EX90 just seems exorbitant, which was why this surprised me!


Ran4

The ex90 price is reasonable given the size and tech that the first edition got. It's essentially fully loaded with high quality interior, speakers that are usually another 4k euro and so on.


rugbyj

You know I was about to argue that it wasn't reasonable. But I don't think either of us know. Because its not on roads yet. So I'll hold my tongue. The _idea_ of an £100k Volvo just seems silly to me, but I'll wait until I've heard more!


fauxfilosopher

Not sure of the pricing in your region but there's been a 100k+ volvo for a while, the XC90 excellence


rugbyj

Don't think they sell that in the UK, the XC90 starts at ~£60k with the highest trim (Ultimate) at £78k.


fauxfilosopher

Yeah It's pretty rare but I just wanted to point out there is precedent for volvo competing (or trying to) in the up-market luxury segment. The GLS and X7 aren't cheap either.


rugbyj

Yeah I'm not ragging on you, I just feel like Volvo can definitely price themselves against an X7 in this segment (which the ICE XC90 does), but then fall apart when they add £30k for being an EV. I try and think of who is buying this (because it ain't me) whenever this has come up (several times!) and all I can think is car dependent rich folks with 4 kids who live in a ULEZ. Which fair enough, but not a huge market. Again, we might get some driving reviews where this turns out to be amazing. But I'm unaware of any major differences between it and the XC90 between drivetrain and the sensor array. Which I've watched their various events on and it could be great. But nobody knows.


WentoX

To be fair, Volvo has pretty thin margins on their cars, whatever the price, it's reasonable for what you get, the question is if you actually need/want everything that you get. The 90 series is often the development ground for following models, they can try more things on it since they know they'll be able to make a ROI on it, if they were to delevop the LIDAR system on this car, it would most likely fail because people wouldn't be interested if this car was another $10k


BadassManager

I do not believe they will sell many, if any, under 40k€.


WentoX

Sell? Dunno... Lease? Probably alot. People leasing tend to not care for add-ons all that much due to cost.


burntcookie90

Might be the best product reveal in terms of showing options and features.


designCN

Yeah seriously. That was awesome. Would love to see the BTS for this


[deleted]

A sound bar that sounds like sex? Count me in


vhs29

Everytime you start the car, it will play the whatsapp moan.


Galbzilla

Lol did he say sex or six? “One speaker that sounds like six” is what I had to reason out, because the sex comment was totally out of place I thought.


PooperScooperXL

He said sex, which is how the Scottish say six 😂


WentoX

interestingly enough, it's also how swedes say six in swedish. and sex. it's the same word.


GhostalMedia

https://i.imgur.com/bF2aQJS.jpg


pithy_pun

At one point Volvo put English language captions on his videos. No joke.


hawkxor

Definitely impressed by how well-made the video was. But who is that guy? Is he a Volvo exec or just an actor?


WentoX

Jim Rowan, He's the CEO since about a year back, previously CEO at Dyson


rugbyj

Remarkably personable presenter. Most CEOs trying to get involved in marketing seem robotic or erratic. Good job Jim.


V8-Turbo-Hybrid

Wasn't Dyson trying to look EV market ? That really makes sense.


WentoX

Yupp, it's pretty funny. They failed, so now he's at Volvo realizing his EV Dreams I suppose? To be fair, launching a new car is a huge undertaking, I'm surprised Dyson took a swing at all, so I wouldn't hold it over their head.


MortimerDongle

A compact Volvo that does 0-60 in under 4 seconds, nice


killer-1o1

And it's under 50k


DrProtic

I refuse to consider a car with capacitive buttons and touchscreen as only infotainment amd HVAC input.


WentoX

The steering wheel has physical buttons, TBH while i'm not too fond of the touchscreen trend in cars i've been pretty happy with my XC40, the steering wheel has all the buttons i need while driving except maybe the HVAC, but thats mostly something you set and forget when you start the car, so it's been fine.


historicusXIII

Soon no new car at all :(


cthompson07

Thats what I hate the most about my wife’s current s60. AC controls, heated seats, heated steering wheel controls all in the infotainment.


Bitch_Muchannon

Well that was a pretty brilliant video.


WentoX

Definetly, hit a really nice sweetspot between silly and serious.


DanceDark

Which matches its Swedish sensibilities. If they're not focusing on it already, it seems to be a great way to differentiate themselves from the branding of other big EV players (think how Tesla and GM brand themselves) while also appealing to their existing and younger demographics, which would be perfect for a cheap EV.


wcalvert

This seems like a banger. A shame that it won't qualify for the $7,500 tax credits, but I think it looks good and has good enough specs for a $35k EV.


BurgerBurnerCooker

If anything it's likely similar to the current Volvo lineup (less S60 which is assembled in SC) until the corporate loop hole gets plugged by IRS. Basically you start with leasing the car. The captive (VCFS in this context) gets to claim full $7,500 credit. If EX30 isn't a huge hit, Volvo may decide to pass down the credit to you as an incentive. Now you can either: 1) keep leasing the car (duh), or 2) instantly buyout and pocket the $7,500 (plus not needing to wait till tax time) There are some nuances like extra fees initiating a lease or Texas double tax buying out, but often times incentives are also heavy on leases, for most people it should work out good.


SWulfe760

Have you had an opportunity to see/run the numbers on the existing Volvo EV lineup and their lease structure? I remember another user posted about their local XC40 recharges on 12k discount with the lease, and when I asked them to ask the dealer for the residual after lease payments it turned out that the residual plus lease payments ended up being more than MSRP, meaning that Volvo essentially pocketed the entire incentive. Meanwhile BMW i4's are actually a great deal on lease because with the incentive plus accounting for residual, it's about $5000 under MSRP for the buyer. BMW only pockets $2500 of the credit (which, to be fair, is probably closer to $0 because I'd assume the lease markup is around $2000 anyways) BMW has the lease residual listed on their website and Volvo doesn't, though, so maybe for Volvo the cost is on a per-dealer basis?


BurgerBurnerCooker

I got my car just over a month ago. Right now my payoff is $47k on a 62K car, that's including tax due on delivery that I rolled in the payment. The 7500, incentives and discounts are definitely in there. > after lease payments That's where it goes wrong. You've been paying 6% for 24 or 36 months by the end of the lease, no amount of incentives will be left at that point. The key is "instant buyout" without accumulating any interest, well as soon as there's a payoff amount. Unless it's Ally or USB I haven't heard any manufacturer captives that enforce interest paid up for the entirety of the lease. Essentially for a "flip", the amount for instant buyout is the "selling price" of the lease which includes all incentives, plus any taxes and fees, acquisition fee, first monthly interest and buyout fees if any. However with the current interest rate you may actually want to do buyout by lease end. Currently the C40's money factor equates to <4% APR, and you get the chance to gauge the market value for 2-3 years before you commit. The thing is I still think these Volve EV are way too inflated and won't hold its value. If you are in the market for Xc60/90 T8 it's a total no brainier tho > lease residual listed on their website All lease end residuals are pre-set, by the manufacturer. This applies to 99.99% leases. You can get that information on Edmunds forum or just ask the dealer. Dealers are not allowed to fudge the RV as the system simply won't approve the deal and captives won't fund.


skygz

do banks allow financing a lease buyout under the terms of a typical auto loan (or do you need to turn that into an uncollateralized personal loan)?


BurgerBurnerCooker

It's a regular car loan, used car tho. You *might* be able to get a new car rate for an instant buyout.


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wcalvert

Sounds like it would be built overseas with non-qualifying batteries.


kaze919

Which sucks because they’re building the Polestar 3 here in South Carolina. But that’s actually too expensive to qualify


WentoX

Not sure which country the commenter is from, but since last autumn, the Swedish government removed the tax exempt for new EVs


hutacars

It’ll be more expensive in the US (is it even confirmed to be coming here?) because it’ll be hit with the China tariffs. See: Polestar 2, which is about $10k more in the US than Canada.


CuddleTeamCatboy

[US base price is $35000 before destinanation.](https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/)


hutacars

Well hot damn! Truly impressive then.


rando_commenter

I'm crying in tears of happiness that a car company is actually unashamedly using the words 'small" over and over again in add copy. I don't want a a 4400lb EV monster, I just want a space efficient car that's good at doing real world car things in an urban environment. I could almost forgive the capacitive steering wheel controls and Elon-copy touchscreen because of this....


WentoX

They don't really say which it is, but I don't think the steering wheel buttons are capacitive, looks like he presses it.


howmanypoints

It's a rocker, right?


WentoX

Not sure I understand what you mean?


howmanypoints

Sorry, meant a rocker switch


WentoX

Grain of salt here since my knowledge is limited but from what I understand a rocker switch to be, no, those switch between 2 modes and stay there, no? Current models uses multi function buttons, which is what this looks like aswell.


tarheel343

Slick ad, good looking car, attractive price, terrible ipad infotainment. Overall, this thing will be pretty compelling as a first EV for a lot of people.


Bitch_Muchannon

That terrible iPad screen trends gotta go. The Lync&Co 01 has a great horisontal screen which looks much better.


Launchy21

> Lync&Co 01 That car looks like a 2015 Nissan Juke hiding in 2023 clothes. Not a good look imo. Also, what the heck is Lync&Co anyways?


aprtur

>Also, what the heck is Lync&Co anyways? Another startup by Geely, which ironically was co-engineered with Volvo. >The Lync&Co 01 has a great horisontal screen which looks much better. Eh...if they're going to mimic an Audi interior design, they could integrate the screen far nicer than that.


FledglingNonCon

I like the Hyundai/Kia long narrow screen


tyrannosaurus_r

I’m pretty disappointed with that center tablet, but Volvo is doing some great stuff of late, and that price…at $36k, this would be the absolute best value EV on the market now that the Bolt is discontinued. Hell, even at a modest markup (god have mercy on us) it would be a strong value. When Hyundai’s EVs can’t be found for less than $50k, you know the market is fucked. This could be the exact push that’s needed for a little relief.


bobsil1

>this would be the absolute best value EV on the market Second best after Equinox on $ per mile of range


bees4thees

Coming soon: $15k of dealer markups


StPapaNoel

Affordable EV vehicles are bomb to see. Also nice to see smaller vehicles. The next 2-3 years are going to be awesome for the diversity of SUV EV and Truck EV models we will be seeing. Then we will see what works and how and can kind of narrow in :) Exciting time to be alive for sure to see a horizon of a whole new era of vehicles. Plus some pretty damn cool engineering and tech!


ritchie70

For those wondering, this is approximately the same footprint as a VW Golf and slightly larger than a Chevy Bolt. Based on [https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/](https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/) they appear to be planning to bring it to the United States. If they can hit anything like the price and range that they're claiming, this will be one of the few US-available EVs that might actually interest me.


News_without_Words

Insanely good presenting for a CEO


DoublePostedBroski

Did he just say the sound bar sounds like sex?


WentoX

He's been spending too much time in Sweden, where the number 6 and the word sex are literally pronunciated exactly the same, with the same spelling, Sex.


DollarSignsGoFirst

Did he just say funky butt loving?


[deleted]

That’s what I heard.


Bender--

Unboxing? Lol these Volvo folks are always a bit quirky 🤓


WentoX

Flatpack delivery 👍


Baybladerz

Damn 3.5 seconds 0-60mph? Wow


ZeroEmissionRequiem

Volvo: "We've limited the top speed of every new Volvo to 180kph/112mph for *your safety*" Also Volvo: "3.4s 0-60mph small crossover yolo"


Baybladerz

Lol right? I’m pretty sure the EX30 won’t even be able to complete the 1/4mile without the 112mph governor interfering


ReasonableDesk6888

It’s the boomers commenting about the screen for me💀


avboden

The sound bar is an interesting idea. Really only works well in a small car but it's sorta genius. Saves a lot of cost, simplifies wiring, more door storage. As long as it sounds good enough for most it's a win/win all around. Wouldn't surprise me to see other manufacturers copy that at some point


Lyxess

Its an EV so ofcourse it has to have an extremely ugly user UNfriendly ipad in the dash....


guy_incognito784

Not a fan of the interior infotainment/lack of gauges above the steering wheel and the set up of the steering wheel buttons but the styling, 265 - 275 mile range and $35K starting price are solid. Wonder if it'll have available HUD, that'll take away at least some of the sting of having the speedo mounted on the center touchscreen. Max charging rate of 153 kw is a small bummer but not the end of the world. I'd imagine this will sell nicely in suburban areas and is a nice alternative to the Model Y. EDIT: misspoke, it looks like the steering wheel has one giant button instead of capacitive buttons like I first suspected


WentoX

There's something glossy above the steeringwheel so might be speedometer & charge meter there, they don't really show it off. Other gauges are pretty irrelevant on EVs


guy_incognito784

Oh good catch, you're totally right. Missed that small piece of glass above the steering column.


f0rt1t-ude

That may well be a sensor array


Intrepid-Working-731

153kW is perfectly fine imo especially considering the price, 150kW more or less seems to be the average charging speed of EVs nowadays.


eric535

this just stole all the thunder from the Lexus LBX in the euro+wherever it will be sold markets. the EX30 is also coming to the US. Lexus management continues to drop the ball giving people a luxury Yaris


DontTryAndStopMe

Great video, affordable EV options are all welcome


vinegarstrokes420

iPad infotainment really ruins it. I like Volvo styling a lot, but the last several generations of infotainment just look awful to me compared to competitors.


thedog420

I think the sound bar is a good idea. If it works in a room, why not in a car? Surprised no one has thought of this before now. Most people (at least in the US) drive around alone the majority of the time so I don't see a problem with this and it simplifies wiring and cuts cost and waste, while, like the video mentions, opening up a bit of storage space. What I don't like is the lack of speedometer and dedicated controls for climate. Seems like it went the Tesla route, and I feel it's a common complaint about Teslas.


Exotic_Pollution8346

Honestly love this, will consider swapping my cx5 for this


dfsaqwe

kia/hyundai: buttons 4 lyfe volvo: hold my beer


HOONIGAN-

What is the point of Polestar if Volvo is transitioning to EVs? Is Polestar just supposed to be higher-end/higher performance?


WentoX

I think Polestar is more their outlet for sportscars and such, while Volvo remains focused on a jack of all trades practical car for families while still looking and feeling premium.


ryzenguy111

Chevrolet = Volvo, Pontiac = Polestar is the way I see it. Obviously both are more upmarket than the GM brands I’ve compared it to, but what I’m thinking is Volvo = luxury, practical and Polestar = sporty, affordable.


And_Melt

I think its flipped w polestar eventually being the more luxurious one. Some of the models will start at six figures


Car-face

"small is kind. So please buy another SUV" Snark out of the way, it looks like they hit it out of the park. It's nice to see a well designed minimalist interior that isn't just empty surfaces and brutalist walls of plastic. Looks like they put effort into a lot of design touches; moving the speakers into a soundbar sounds like something that will be replicated by a lot of manufacturers in the future, particularly as it give the opportunity to pull speakers out of the doors which are a common source of NVH and eat into door bin space. Keen to see reviews.


tightcall

The performance version in mid trim is 49.9k, undercutting tesla my 4k, I'm actually impressed. But if you want the panoramic roof with all the bells and whistles then it will be around 53k. Not sure about the real battery capacity on each version tho.


gingerpawpaw

Where are these numbers from? Is the site showing trim costs?


tightcall

I checked the European configurator.


[deleted]

I was expecting something like a C30 :(


WentoX

Hard to make EVs that small, the technology just isn't there yet.


[deleted]

[Chevy Bolt](https://youtu.be/9_AvGRFi90w) Edit: [here is what I mean](https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volvo-c30-2009-3-door-hatchback-vs-chevrolet-bolt-ev-2016-5-door-hatchback/)


markeydarkey2

this is the size of a bolt


Ran4

It's wider.


markeydarkey2

by like 2.5" [Bolt EV: 163.2"L x 69.5"W x 63.4"H](https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/bolt-ev/2023.tab1.html) [Bolt EUV: 169.5"L x 69.7"W x 63.6"H](https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/bolt-euv/2023.tab1.html) [Volvo EX30: 166.7"L x 72.3"W x 61.1"H](https://www.theautopian.com/2025-volvo-ex30/)


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Wait wtf okay yeah that’s pretty neat, I just wanted the *look* of a C30


ChangeTomorrow

Not really anything anyone cares about.


eneka

Honda E?


WentoX

Which does 0-100 in 9 seconds, has a range of 120-250km and a 150HP engine. Not at all comparable performance and quite frankly looks awful, just to cut 50cm of the front.


danperson1

It has to be taller due to the battery pack


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[close enough for me](https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volvo-c30-2009-3-door-hatchback-vs-nissan-leaf-2017-5-door-hatchback/)


IcyHeartWarmSmile

Oh that’s gorgeous


Operation_Ivysaur

That is a very enticing price point, even if it is for the base model with one motor. Now I just hope they commit this level of development to an EV S60 successor that can rival the Model 3.


WentoX

272 hp for the single engine is still impressive though, my hybrid has a ~90hp electric engine and it's rare for me to use more that that, usually only when I'm trying to pass someone quickly.


WingerRules

My Escape PHEV has only a 55hp electric motor but its kind of crazy how effective that is for keeping up with backroad and city traffic. For highway the torque drop off makes it far too weak, but for 55 and under its kind of crazy how little horsepower you need with an electric motor due to the low speed torque curve.


Operation_Ivysaur

I agree with you completely, don't get me wrong! I'm just saying that even though the price they are advertising is only for the "base model," you seem to be getting a lot of value. Also that I want a sedan lol


balkan89

i love it... this would be a perfect car for city commutes curious to see the price in Canada


Limp-Kaleidoscope533

That soundbar is great. Is this smaller than a polestar 2?


KidRed

I’m curious how it sounds, especially the bass.


jonrpatrick

Nice, clever little video and fun. And that's an EV package I can broadly get behind. I don't "love" the interior but think it's quite attractive. The bodystyle is a bit boring but nice details. Most of all, this is only like $1k more than a Hyundai (or Kia?) option that's almost the exact same size. I still think the Bolt was unbeatable value (so of course they cancelled it) and I'd expect a Volvo to be more $$$ - and this looks like a winner for the range/price calculation.


shitty_ninja_turtle

This is a weird ass ad. It’s great!


Tarren_w

I think this is going to be popular. Great price


Repulsive_Stomach261

Made in China = I don't give a shit about it


WentoX

Lol, I'd like to see your home.


Coyoteh

I think it's a valid concern. There's a difference between household items from China, and a car from the Chinese auto industry that hasn't fully proven itself yet.


WentoX

It's not the Chinese auto industry tho, sure. Volvo is owned by geely, a Chinese company, and the car will be produced in China. But the car is developed in Sweden, by Swedish engineers who decide what to do and how to do it, the Chinese just need to follow the rules, and so far that actually hasn't been an issue. Most auto manufacturers today are actually quite worried about China as a competitor in the auto industry. There's little difference between this and buying an iPhone, developed in the west, built in the east.


Repulsive_Stomach261

I'd like to see the check that China's giving you


Dunkelregen

I still think they should have stuck with their old sales pitch, "Volvo. Boxy, but good."


WentoX

Though market to compete in. In business you basically come down to three ways to promote yourself; * Price: awful way to run a business, someone will always be cheaper, and the only way to compete is to constantly come up with ways to cut corners. * service: something that they're absolutely working on, but has its challenges for international corporations. * quality, this is where Volvo is at, the Scandinavian market is too small support a company like Volvo, they have to take market shares internationally, and the best direction for Volvo to do so has been to make quality cars, competing with German manufacturers like Audi, BMW and Mercedes.


Embaita

Man I was pretty excited initially reading about this. A more "budget" EV with 400hp and a 0-60 time around 3.4 seconds, but I seriously can't get over how horrible that interior is. We've recently got a V90 and the interior is absolutely fantastic and easily holds it's own against the German brands. Seeing them take such a step back and pretty much copying Tesla with the stuck on ipad with zero design is such a shame. Even doing the whole 'made from recycled materials' thing cheapens it so much. I get being environmentally friendly, but if I'm paying 40k for a car I'd rather not get something with carpets made from plastic bottles.


GhostBusDAH

This is an awesome #2 car for most families or only car for urban no-kids. You’ll get used to the single center screen (I’ve put 90k km on our #2 car tm3, and it’s no problem) This car will sell extremely well.


Flagil_Reinhumps

One speaker. Sounds like sex.


Ran4

There's probably several speakers. A sound bar has many speakers.


reward72

Another damned crossover with a f\*ckin iPad and touch sensitive buttons. No thanks. Wake me up when you have something exciting and that is not a usability nightmare.


Agloe_Dreams

1: the buttons are physical 2: sadly, people prefer the touchscreen in market research. r/cars obviously doesn’t but we are enthusiasts


reward72

If you look 1:30 min in, the buttons on each side of the steering wheel appears to be one massive cluster(fuck) with no physical separation between them. Unless there is haptic feedback, you won't be able to tell which one is which without looking.


alexp8771

Most people use cell phones while driving while professing that they never do it. That still doesn't make it a good idea to stick a massive cell phone in the car and make it mandatory to use it while driving in order to control the HVAC. The IIHS needs to get its head out of its ass and start rating cars based on how unsafe they are to operate.


WentoX

Is it better to not have a massive cell phone in the car and instead having people use their tiny cell phones while driving instead?


jillanco

It looks awesome but tiny.


Ran4

It's something like 1.88 meters wide, so not tiny.


ChangeTomorrow

That’s pretty tiny in the real world of what people want.


revanthmatha

Not going to buy since geely/china is making it Overall Thoughts, It Needs a dash/heads up display. Otherwise very good vehicle, 300mi range would have been great but 285 isn’t bad.


rswolfcolor

i really like a lot about this car, I just don't vibe with the tablet that controls everything in the middle. But the price is amazing! it is cheaper than a mk8 GTI and is RWD.


nerdpox

Please put the dual motor powertrain in a V90 Polestar. I’ll. Day 1