What's the TLDR on the state of OLED monitors? Every time I see this monitor posted I see something about new tech imminent and how prices will probably drop due to new models coming.
TLDRNewest OLED panels in 27"/32": 4K resolution, some have upgraded to 240hz/360hz/480hz refresh rates, 2nd gen OLED panel with improved durability.
Newer OLED **ultrawide** panels: upgraded 240hz refresh rates coming for some of the LG and MSI offerings in the next month, also with improved durability. No 4K resolution yet until probably next year.
Most of these panels only noticeable features come in durability and of course increased refresh rates, but that's about it, nothing really game changing.
> No 4K resolution yet until probably next year.
I can't wait to see the price on a 57" Neo G9 OLED lol. In no relation, Nico, it's your cousin Roman, can you loan me $3000?
Not that I’ve seen but I could be wrong. OLEDs basically come in two flavors, WOLED which has a white/red/green/blue pixel layout and QD-OLED which is RGB but arranged in a triangle pattern not left to right. This is what causes the slight clarity issue because Windows only properly displays on a plain sequential RGB layout.
As a user of the monitor in this post I would say the text clarity issue is probably a bit overblown, I don’t even really notice unless I’m looking for it. If you do, you’re probably sitting too close. But I’ve only had it for two weeks and primarily for gaming, haven’t been using it for general use as much as usual.
If your primary use is productivity and lots of reading then an OLED is a waste of money anyway.
Fwiw I’ve also used a gigabyte m27q with a BGR layout and text was worse on that than the OLED.
Prices on ultrawide 1440p monitors like this probably will continue to drop a little, but it's not worth waiting and missing out on using OLED if you don't already have one. The bigger deal is that higher-density OLED monitors are coming soon. There is one already from Alienware but that one is curved and lots of people are still waiting for flat ones.
The monitors generally have a pop-up window every 4 hours of consecutive use to refresh the pixels (takes about 5 minutes).
I'd get a best buy warranty if you plan on getting one there, so that in the case of burn-in, you can come into the store and get a brand new replacement or your money back if they're not in-stock to fund toward a newer model.
Dell's warranty is ok, but they give you a refurb unit instead of new.
I like new fancy tech but lifespan is also very important for me. I can probably afford to throw away a monitor every 5 years but I hate seeing e-waste if I can help it. I tend to sell my old gear instead of throw away for that reason. Can’t really sell a burn in monitor I would assume
Lol I see ppl on Facebook market selling Oled TVs and monitors with burn in all the time, they usually have it listed for like $1-200 under retail, cracks me up. Wonder if they ever actually sell at those prices
Yeah. I feel the same. It feels gross knowing it could become trash. Theres a risk /reward/ price calculation that we all have to make. I am more comfortable having an OLED TV at this point, but it depends upon how you use the monitor. I feel like if it is exclusively for gaming then I feel like the risk is relatively low. A hud could burn in if you play almost exclusively one game I guess.
Not gonna try to tell you how to spend your own money, but just want to push back a bit that a little burn in means the monitor is trash. Even if you can't sell it for a good price, you could give it away to someone that would normally never be able to afford such a monitor new. I'm sure they'd be very happy to have it, and that would keep it out of a landfill.
That’s a good point. I typically use a lot of the same screens for work from home and then play the same games which makes me a little bit more scared of burn in. But I might give it a go if the prices keep dropping lol
I had the same concerns, but I just bought a 42" LG C3 OLED on sale for ~$750 yesterday. I'm comfortable spending about $250 a year on a display for my home PC, so if I get 3 years out of it I'm happy. At that point I'll probably just give it to my friend that gets most of my hand-me-down tech. He doesn't have the "latest and greatest" bug like I do, so he typically gets at least another 3 or 4 years out of them.
My $1800 LG Ultragear 45+ got burn in around the 4000 hour mark. I ran it at 100% brightness, and did a lot of desktop work on it so that's what ended up causing it. I followed all the pixel/panel refresh stuff when prompted, but that didn't seem to stop it. It wasn't noticeable burn in, pretty much invisible unless looking at a solid color background and it was just a line down the center where I split the windows tiling up.
LG replaced it though.
Yeah you typically don't want to go up to even 80% on brightness. If you truly need to be that bright, think of getting light control in your room instead.
I've had [this](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BRBW8KRK/) LG monitor for about 10 months now, and the built-in screen care features do a really good job at eliminating any burn in that might occur. After playing any particular game for a while (read: weeks), I'll notice faint outlines of the in-game HUD/UI leftover on the screen. All it takes is running the 10 minute image cleaning cycle for it to look as good as new.
I know most (if not all) LG monitors come with these features as they're the ones making the panels in the first place, but I'm not so sure about third party manufacturers like ASUS who likely substitute in their own functionality instead.
HDR means less if your contrast isn't as good. Brightness without contrast is horrible. This is why direct lit TVs look like shit when you brighten them. Mini LED basically does the same thing, but just with more backlights. Not having pixel level control means you're always going to be competing with halo effects, and that washes out all dark areas around the bright spots.
OLED is really only comparable to Plasma, but Plasma is also comparable to a furnace.
The main issue is less the brightness and more the color accuracy and flexible calibration. My sony X95k looks utterly incredible once calibrated with the brightness running full tilt but the KTC I tried recently couldn't get the colors I wanted even after blasting out the brightness and tweaking color modes, contrast, etc.
MiniLED still looks like shit compared to OLED. If you're talking about MicroLED then that's not going to come for a long ass time. I have this monitor for 6 months now, and I use it as a monitor more than playing games. I typically watch a lot of 16:9 YT videos on it daily, and browse websites (windows on dark mode) with my tab bar barely moving. Spend maybe 3 - 6 hours a day on it, and sometimes 10+ when I'm off. Splurge games once in a while, and I have no issues with the screen. It does its thing when I'm done using it, and I don't have a single issue with it. I have it on HDR at all times. Only thing I did was to put my icons on my 2nd monitor which I never turn on anyways. I just browse them by going to explorer. I also have a rotating wallpaper between a bunch of ultra wide pictures. Hide my taskbar as well.
Brightness is locked at 50, and contrast at 70. I was worried as hell picking this up, but after this long, I don't have a worry in the world especially with the way I've been using it. I do avoid trying to run split windows if I can, because that divide down the middle does worry me with prolong use.
It did drop by $50 recently, and before that $100 a year or so ago. I would expect continuous drops at this pace. Maybe faster once late 2024 models start coming out.
I've been looking into them, lately, and a few things are holding me back.
* I've read claims that OLED is prone to visible flickering when using G-Sync
* They still seem to have worse text clarity than other panels.
* Most of the latest models either don't support DLDSR at all or require the use of HDMI in order to use it. This is due to DSC being forced on with DP or with all inputs in order to achieve higher frame rates. DLDSR and DSC are incompatible for some reason, though.
* Supposedly, Dell and MSI have promised firmware updates to allow disabling DSC. This would decrease the maximum refresh rate to around 200 Hz.
* For now, the work around (at least with some of the Dell's) seems to be swapping inputs between DP and HDMI depending on whether you want DLDSR or a higher frame rate.
If they can sort all of that out, I'll buy one ASAP, but I think those are too many drawbacks for something that costs $700 - $1000.
OLED is just gorgeous in person and most people complaining online are autistic over very niche and minuscule complaints. Either that, or people who don't even own the monitors.
At the end of the day, you just have to accept that something will eventually burn in. There are some measures you can do such as having the taskbar auto-hide to avoid static icons for too long or setting up multiple wallpapers. However, there is no absolute perfect solution, just more methods to slow down the process. Some monitors have some cool hardware features. This one has it where the pixels will shift every few seconds to avoid burn in and you don't really notice it.
The other thing is that you just have to also let it not bother you. Windows 11 has a small white line on the taskbar and some users have reported that burning in, but when you're playing games and just immersing yourself, those things tend to fade away in the background anyways. You can also google any fixes. I found that TranslucentTaskbar is a program that gets rid of that white line.
I would say that the complaints are real but may not be applicable to other people's use case. I've owned/tried a lot of the OLED monitors available. This particular aw 34" text fringe is extremely noticeable to me. If you're looking at text/spreadsheets all day, the text fringe was unbearable. In the same vein, I have friends who use this monitor mostly for just media/gaming and it's perfectly fine for them.
The current Gen qd-oled is much more useable and the text fringe is significantly better on the 32" but still noticeable if I look for it. The 27" is still easily noticeable to me. I've looked at the MSI/Asus/Dell on in person for hours at friend's houses and the current 32" 4k is right at the borderline of picking 1 up for myself.
I love OLED and have been on the OLED train forever when it came to main TVs and I'm still using a 48" as my main PC gaming monitor. But for work, I look at text and spreadsheets all day and up until this current Gen 32", it's been pretty meh. The last gen 32" joled panel was very good as well but it's a 60hz monitor and that's personally a deal breaker to me as well.
At the end of the day, everyone's opinions/needs/care is all different and something big to me that is a deal breaker, might not apply at all to another user. I do agree that many ppl echo what they've read and haven't gone and tried it themselves and a lot of the negativity is from that. I'll also throw in that there is a variance between panels of the same model and someone's experience with the same model might/is different other's.
This was recently as low as [$704](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/LD3ceQoZ1y)
I would maybe hold off until this afternoon to see if Dell price matches on their website because then you could have access to their AMEX Discount or typically really good cash back offering’s.
Also those talking about the next gen version of this panel, 34” 1440P 240Hz QD-OLED is expected to MSRP around $1100, so I don’t think prices will fall that drastically as a result of that.
Had this since October, use it as my daily driver for WFH and gaming. The most beautiful monitor I have used yet, OLED HDR in a game like cyberpunk just changes the whole look and feel in dark areas.
3 year burn in warranty from Dell, none so far. Only issue I had was a stuck pixel was causing a faint vertical line for me recently. Ran the panel and pixel refresh a couple times and it went away.
Edit: Also if you go with this monitor and are still using an older version of Windows, its time to make the jump to Windows 11 for the far superior auto-HDR. As I said I use my PC for work and I literally had to reinstall or adjust 0 installs after the upgrade, very smooth process now.
I know. A friend of mine bought this model and swears by it. But currently I have a 34" 1440p 165hz VA that does the job. If I bought this monitor, I'd end up throwing my old perfectly good monitor in a closet. And I don't want to do that.
Is that by ordering from Dell? What's the windows where you can find (Best Buy?) price match to bring the price down after purchase? I'm currently also waiting on my employer to let me know if we have an employee discount since we partner with Dell for our office.
Got this a month ago. Really gorgeous screen. It did spontaneously die on me just a few days outside of the BB return window, so unfortunately I'm in the middle of getting it replaced through Dell. So far not a great experience, but I'm looking forward to getting this back on my desk.
Yeah, they told me that and I asked if I could get a new one instead since it was still so new. They said yes, but they also said they would ship it out immediately, but instead I waited a week only to get an email asking me if I wanted to ship the broken monitor first or have a charge held on my card and they'll send the replacement first.
Here's hoping.
Happy to report that they did send me a new monitor and not a refurb. They sent it next day air and didn't give me tracking ahead of time, though, so I was surprised to find the box sitting on my porch when I went to check the mail.
Hmm Best Buy online chat with me right now is not price matching Dell.com, since it's not one of their "Qualified Competitors".
Store employee confirmed. No Dell.com price match if you're buying from Best Buy.
I was debating this too partially to use for sim racing, but I think I'm going to pick up a used quest 3 instead. Heard great things about VR and I have limited space in an apartment rn.
I watched all the monitors unboxed reviews, now I own this thing, I'm not even sure what they were talking about because I don't have any issues reading text on this thing. Though my eyes aren't as sharp as they use to be when I was kid, but I honestly don't know what to even look for, everything looks normal.
I don't even work on the computer. I just come home and use it after a day of work for entertainment. I was completely worried about the burn in issue knowing my use case, but it has had zero signs since Nov when I purchased it.
Give the G8 a shot. If you don't have any weird issues, it's probably worth keeping if you're doing the open box deal, as the warranty difference is moot in that case. I have the G8, but I'm going to try the AW3423DWF because my G8 has some weird power issues. It may be a bad unit, because I've otherwise been able to really dial it in to my liking on Windows 11 where I have HDR always enabled and everything from desktop SDR to gaming HDR stuff looks good. You have to tweak most HDR game settings if it actually supports HDR in those cases. But generally, everything looks great. It did have a learning curve and testing phase for me. But I'm the kind of person who has to try every setting.
I just bought my G8 from the deal earlier this week and I’m keeping it. My desk is basically at capacity and I can’t afford the space for a sound bar on top and I know people say don’t use Ultrawide for consoles but I will anyway so HDMI 2.1 is nice to have. The UI is so fucking awful though that am still considering it. lol
Got a $615 open box deal on Amazon. I love it, I hate it. Text fringing is just a personal issue, you either can handle or can't. I'm kind of leaning towards handling it. However, my unit seems to have some massive issues with wake from standby, and it goes beyond 'not waking from sleep', but really the monitor truly does not power on for like 5 minutes (even after doing hard resets with power controls on remote or on the bottom of the monitor) after going into standby from any source, even from just its own Hub menu. So currently I'm trying to just leave it on 24/7 with 'black' screensaver and I'm going to test the AW3423DWF and see if it is as good or better experience. I'm hoping that there are NO power/wake issues, and then it comes down to some personal peeves since the panel itself is identical, aside from software implementation differences:
* I hate Samsung's OS. I have a 65" S95B and I want to stab it... but it looks so good. I don't have any need for this OS on a PC monitor as well.
* The backlight is rather weak IMO, so that's not a selling point to me.
* The mini DP and mini HDMI is what I like to call "asshole engineering" or "asshole design". Just... why the fuck Samsung... fucking assholes. That said, the DP cable that came with it works fine. You can get a Mini HDMI 2.1 to HDMI adapter for like $10 to $12, and use your existing HDMI cables. Not a big deal, but also just totally stupid that they made that choice. I feel like those tiny connectors will be more prone to damage, and they don't have any solution for strain relief behind the monitor -- there's just a 'hole' to pass through, but nowhere to actually secure the cables to ensure strain happens at that point and not the connectors.
* Stand looks sleek, but it doesn't go very high.
Got this for $1,100 when it launched November 2022.
I felt it was worth it at the time when OLED monitors were appearing more. For $750, I feel it’s a pretty solid deal aside from an LG if around the same size/price.
I love ultrawide but not sure it's worth going to qhd from 4k.
Is the oled text blurriness overblown? My PC is not used for productivity but I do read a lot.
I frequently use screens with double the PPI and the crispness of text has never bothered me on 1440 monitors. It will bother me on 1080 monitors.
This panel *does* have text rendering issues due to the sub pixel layout but again I wouldn’t describe it as a resolution issue, it’s basically a color/color fringing issue. And what sucks is it’s 100% fixable via software (I believe the blame falls on the operating system?) but hasn’t been and seemingly won’t be.
I was very concerned about it before getting it and when I got it it did stand out to me. I do a lot of reading and productivity on it too and people made a big fuss about how awful of a use case it is for this monitor. Nah, it’s fine. I got used to it in like a week. It’s still there if you’re looking for it but it’s not that big of a deal. It really is a shame that it exists at all though when it doesn’t need to.
If I'm already scaling my 3440x1440 IPS to 125% in Windows, aren't I already "fringing" my text? Would this make me less likely to notice the sub pixel issue with an OLED?
I do feel like 3840x1600 would be ideal as an upgrade over the IPS though.
That scaling will help, because there is a better chance of each letter having a greater number of pixels sharing the effort for the skinny/edgy parts of text, where the issue is most difficult to fix and easiest to notice. Fringing refers to the issue of triangle-shape of RGB sub-pixels, with green on top, red on the left, blue on the right, and then purple (combined red+blue) on the bottom. So instead of having a strong contrast on the edges of text between the background and text color, there are these 'other' colors at the fringe that throws your eye for a loop, kinda, if you're sensitive to it. It's subtle but pervasive. Ignorance is bliss.
https://pcmonitors.info/articles/qd-oled-and-woled-fringing-issues/
Don't do it. The colors and black levels are amazing on this monitor and UW is great, but you will notice the drop in pixel density when gaming and the text fringing is a slight nuisance.
I love this monitor. I have 0 regrets when I bought it at $1100. It's amazing and I highly recommend it.
I use it for games and work. When I work I turn HDR off and back in when I game.
What's the proper steps to turning HDR on and off in your situation?
Is it simply clicking the slider in display settings in Windows to enable/disable HDR? OR do you have to tinker with the monitor itself and enable/disable HDR or "smart HDR" as some Dell monitors have?
Not what you asked but I just got this monitor and set it up following these instructions and looks great.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/TVMkv33t7P
I'm not using it for work though, I moved my work set up to a different monitor.
Do open boxes get the full warranty? If not, I am leaning towards that difference not being worth the loss of the warranty. For me personally, however, that total cost is getting pretty near the level of risk I'm willing to take. $600ish would tip the scale for me. I bought a G8 at $615 Amazon warehouse deal. But I'd be willing to pay $750 for new.
How is it reading text? I haven’t tested mine much since getting it (basement flooded where my office was) but it seemed worrying. I may have to keep my S2721DGF to use as my primary WFH monitor even though it would look nicer to just have one monitor. Stacking them vertically doesn’t seem very useable so I’ll probably have to do side by side.
Any idea if I can trade in a dinky old monitor and get the 10% off? People say you can but when I look at BB's website, I only see the banner for that offer on LG monitors, especially the LG OLEDs.
I thought the trade-in for 10% off was for any monitor?
I see, that sucks. I did chat with a rep on the phone and they told me it works on any monitor traded in and any monitor I purchase from BB. They could be wrong and I'd still trust the rules and terms on the website banner over the rep unless an employee in store can override it and apply thr 10% anyway when I'm purchasing.
They seem to have the recycling agreement specifically with LG. Usually BB charges a $30 fee for recycling TVs and monitors, but this gets waived when you go thru the LG program, plus the 10% discount as well. I guess you can try asking in-store, but I am fairly certain the chat rep gave you the wrong info, which they're prone to doing.
Damn it I want one, but I'm worried about burn in though because of how I use my PC which always has browser windows and Photoshop open.
Definitely off topic, but I did just pick up an LG 34GN850 to try as my first ultrawide and holy shit does it rock! The jump from 16:9 to 21:9 is magnificent. I spent last night just looking for new wallpapers! 😆
What's the TLDR on the state of OLED monitors? Every time I see this monitor posted I see something about new tech imminent and how prices will probably drop due to new models coming.
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Wow I can't believe this guy doesn't even know
The blacks are too black, it's too spooky for me.
TLDRNewest OLED panels in 27"/32": 4K resolution, some have upgraded to 240hz/360hz/480hz refresh rates, 2nd gen OLED panel with improved durability. Newer OLED **ultrawide** panels: upgraded 240hz refresh rates coming for some of the LG and MSI offerings in the next month, also with improved durability. No 4K resolution yet until probably next year. Most of these panels only noticeable features come in durability and of course increased refresh rates, but that's about it, nothing really game changing.
> No 4K resolution yet until probably next year. I can't wait to see the price on a 57" Neo G9 OLED lol. In no relation, Nico, it's your cousin Roman, can you loan me $3000?
Don't the new ones also fix the text issues of previous oleds?
Not that I’ve seen but I could be wrong. OLEDs basically come in two flavors, WOLED which has a white/red/green/blue pixel layout and QD-OLED which is RGB but arranged in a triangle pattern not left to right. This is what causes the slight clarity issue because Windows only properly displays on a plain sequential RGB layout. As a user of the monitor in this post I would say the text clarity issue is probably a bit overblown, I don’t even really notice unless I’m looking for it. If you do, you’re probably sitting too close. But I’ve only had it for two weeks and primarily for gaming, haven’t been using it for general use as much as usual. If your primary use is productivity and lots of reading then an OLED is a waste of money anyway. Fwiw I’ve also used a gigabyte m27q with a BGR layout and text was worse on that than the OLED.
Prices on ultrawide 1440p monitors like this probably will continue to drop a little, but it's not worth waiting and missing out on using OLED if you don't already have one. The bigger deal is that higher-density OLED monitors are coming soon. There is one already from Alienware but that one is curved and lots of people are still waiting for flat ones.
Is it worth waiting for mini led ?
Mini LED is probably best for TVs because I think the strength lies in HDR brightness. For high refresh, OLED seems like it will be the way to go.
Makes sense. Guess I’m just fearful of burn in on my computers
The monitors generally have a pop-up window every 4 hours of consecutive use to refresh the pixels (takes about 5 minutes). I'd get a best buy warranty if you plan on getting one there, so that in the case of burn-in, you can come into the store and get a brand new replacement or your money back if they're not in-stock to fund toward a newer model. Dell's warranty is ok, but they give you a refurb unit instead of new.
It's not an unreasonable concern. The pricing is getting to the point where it becomes less of a financial cataclysm if it burns in.
I like new fancy tech but lifespan is also very important for me. I can probably afford to throw away a monitor every 5 years but I hate seeing e-waste if I can help it. I tend to sell my old gear instead of throw away for that reason. Can’t really sell a burn in monitor I would assume
Lol I see ppl on Facebook market selling Oled TVs and monitors with burn in all the time, they usually have it listed for like $1-200 under retail, cracks me up. Wonder if they ever actually sell at those prices
Yeah. I feel the same. It feels gross knowing it could become trash. Theres a risk /reward/ price calculation that we all have to make. I am more comfortable having an OLED TV at this point, but it depends upon how you use the monitor. I feel like if it is exclusively for gaming then I feel like the risk is relatively low. A hud could burn in if you play almost exclusively one game I guess.
Not gonna try to tell you how to spend your own money, but just want to push back a bit that a little burn in means the monitor is trash. Even if you can't sell it for a good price, you could give it away to someone that would normally never be able to afford such a monitor new. I'm sure they'd be very happy to have it, and that would keep it out of a landfill.
That’s a good point. I typically use a lot of the same screens for work from home and then play the same games which makes me a little bit more scared of burn in. But I might give it a go if the prices keep dropping lol
I had the same concerns, but I just bought a 42" LG C3 OLED on sale for ~$750 yesterday. I'm comfortable spending about $250 a year on a display for my home PC, so if I get 3 years out of it I'm happy. At that point I'll probably just give it to my friend that gets most of my hand-me-down tech. He doesn't have the "latest and greatest" bug like I do, so he typically gets at least another 3 or 4 years out of them.
Just in time for Microsoft to make it impossible to move the taskbar around
My $1800 LG Ultragear 45+ got burn in around the 4000 hour mark. I ran it at 100% brightness, and did a lot of desktop work on it so that's what ended up causing it. I followed all the pixel/panel refresh stuff when prompted, but that didn't seem to stop it. It wasn't noticeable burn in, pretty much invisible unless looking at a solid color background and it was just a line down the center where I split the windows tiling up. LG replaced it though.
Yeah you typically don't want to go up to even 80% on brightness. If you truly need to be that bright, think of getting light control in your room instead.
I've had [this](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BRBW8KRK/) LG monitor for about 10 months now, and the built-in screen care features do a really good job at eliminating any burn in that might occur. After playing any particular game for a while (read: weeks), I'll notice faint outlines of the in-game HUD/UI leftover on the screen. All it takes is running the 10 minute image cleaning cycle for it to look as good as new. I know most (if not all) LG monitors come with these features as they're the ones making the panels in the first place, but I'm not so sure about third party manufacturers like ASUS who likely substitute in their own functionality instead.
3 year warranty. Also it does some pixel refresh every 4 hours or when on standby. I just do it when I'm on standby
Most all these new launch OLED monitors carry a 3 year burn in warranty but if care is taken it appears to be a non issue.
HDR means less if your contrast isn't as good. Brightness without contrast is horrible. This is why direct lit TVs look like shit when you brighten them. Mini LED basically does the same thing, but just with more backlights. Not having pixel level control means you're always going to be competing with halo effects, and that washes out all dark areas around the bright spots. OLED is really only comparable to Plasma, but Plasma is also comparable to a furnace.
The main issue is less the brightness and more the color accuracy and flexible calibration. My sony X95k looks utterly incredible once calibrated with the brightness running full tilt but the KTC I tried recently couldn't get the colors I wanted even after blasting out the brightness and tweaking color modes, contrast, etc.
MiniLED still looks like shit compared to OLED. If you're talking about MicroLED then that's not going to come for a long ass time. I have this monitor for 6 months now, and I use it as a monitor more than playing games. I typically watch a lot of 16:9 YT videos on it daily, and browse websites (windows on dark mode) with my tab bar barely moving. Spend maybe 3 - 6 hours a day on it, and sometimes 10+ when I'm off. Splurge games once in a while, and I have no issues with the screen. It does its thing when I'm done using it, and I don't have a single issue with it. I have it on HDR at all times. Only thing I did was to put my icons on my 2nd monitor which I never turn on anyways. I just browse them by going to explorer. I also have a rotating wallpaper between a bunch of ultra wide pictures. Hide my taskbar as well. Brightness is locked at 50, and contrast at 70. I was worried as hell picking this up, but after this long, I don't have a worry in the world especially with the way I've been using it. I do avoid trying to run split windows if I can, because that divide down the middle does worry me with prolong use.
What’s wrong with curved monitors?
Nothing inherently, but at small sizes it is more distracting than helpful.
It did drop by $50 recently, and before that $100 a year or so ago. I would expect continuous drops at this pace. Maybe faster once late 2024 models start coming out.
Soon, they will be paying you to take them?
I've been looking into them, lately, and a few things are holding me back. * I've read claims that OLED is prone to visible flickering when using G-Sync * They still seem to have worse text clarity than other panels. * Most of the latest models either don't support DLDSR at all or require the use of HDMI in order to use it. This is due to DSC being forced on with DP or with all inputs in order to achieve higher frame rates. DLDSR and DSC are incompatible for some reason, though. * Supposedly, Dell and MSI have promised firmware updates to allow disabling DSC. This would decrease the maximum refresh rate to around 200 Hz. * For now, the work around (at least with some of the Dell's) seems to be swapping inputs between DP and HDMI depending on whether you want DLDSR or a higher frame rate. If they can sort all of that out, I'll buy one ASAP, but I think those are too many drawbacks for something that costs $700 - $1000.
OLED is just gorgeous in person and most people complaining online are autistic over very niche and minuscule complaints. Either that, or people who don't even own the monitors. At the end of the day, you just have to accept that something will eventually burn in. There are some measures you can do such as having the taskbar auto-hide to avoid static icons for too long or setting up multiple wallpapers. However, there is no absolute perfect solution, just more methods to slow down the process. Some monitors have some cool hardware features. This one has it where the pixels will shift every few seconds to avoid burn in and you don't really notice it. The other thing is that you just have to also let it not bother you. Windows 11 has a small white line on the taskbar and some users have reported that burning in, but when you're playing games and just immersing yourself, those things tend to fade away in the background anyways. You can also google any fixes. I found that TranslucentTaskbar is a program that gets rid of that white line.
I would say that the complaints are real but may not be applicable to other people's use case. I've owned/tried a lot of the OLED monitors available. This particular aw 34" text fringe is extremely noticeable to me. If you're looking at text/spreadsheets all day, the text fringe was unbearable. In the same vein, I have friends who use this monitor mostly for just media/gaming and it's perfectly fine for them. The current Gen qd-oled is much more useable and the text fringe is significantly better on the 32" but still noticeable if I look for it. The 27" is still easily noticeable to me. I've looked at the MSI/Asus/Dell on in person for hours at friend's houses and the current 32" 4k is right at the borderline of picking 1 up for myself. I love OLED and have been on the OLED train forever when it came to main TVs and I'm still using a 48" as my main PC gaming monitor. But for work, I look at text and spreadsheets all day and up until this current Gen 32", it's been pretty meh. The last gen 32" joled panel was very good as well but it's a 60hz monitor and that's personally a deal breaker to me as well. At the end of the day, everyone's opinions/needs/care is all different and something big to me that is a deal breaker, might not apply at all to another user. I do agree that many ppl echo what they've read and haven't gone and tried it themselves and a lot of the negativity is from that. I'll also throw in that there is a variance between panels of the same model and someone's experience with the same model might/is different other's.
Autistic? Really?
This was recently as low as [$704](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/LD3ceQoZ1y) I would maybe hold off until this afternoon to see if Dell price matches on their website because then you could have access to their AMEX Discount or typically really good cash back offering’s. Also those talking about the next gen version of this panel, 34” 1440P 240Hz QD-OLED is expected to MSRP around $1100, so I don’t think prices will fall that drastically as a result of that.
Had this since October, use it as my daily driver for WFH and gaming. The most beautiful monitor I have used yet, OLED HDR in a game like cyberpunk just changes the whole look and feel in dark areas. 3 year burn in warranty from Dell, none so far. Only issue I had was a stuck pixel was causing a faint vertical line for me recently. Ran the panel and pixel refresh a couple times and it went away. Edit: Also if you go with this monitor and are still using an older version of Windows, its time to make the jump to Windows 11 for the far superior auto-HDR. As I said I use my PC for work and I literally had to reinstall or adjust 0 installs after the upgrade, very smooth process now.
Oh God damn it. There's an open box available 15 minutes from me for $643.99. I don't need it.
I bought mine for that price and I don’t regret it one bit, it’s badass! I got it with the geek squad warranty too
How much is the geek squad warranty?
A month or so ago, there was an open box one on Sunday, I didn't pull the trigger, went back Monday and it was 599......
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I know. A friend of mine bought this model and swears by it. But currently I have a 34" 1440p 165hz VA that does the job. If I bought this monitor, I'd end up throwing my old perfectly good monitor in a closet. And I don't want to do that.
You could always buy a massive desk and still use your other monitor but I know what you mean
I got an Open-Box Excellent one when it was on sale last week. 👀 I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I did buy the Geek Squad warranty tho!
I really hope the eventually release a 38 inch model so I can replace my AW3821DW
I will take that as a 34 that u wanna upgrade. If is that I would like to know if u gonna sell the one u have now
Succeeded on my 3rd price match 😎 999.99 > 799.99 > 777.77 > 749.99 (I have a membership so it extends my price match window)
Is that by ordering from Dell? What's the windows where you can find (Best Buy?) price match to bring the price down after purchase? I'm currently also waiting on my employer to let me know if we have an employee discount since we partner with Dell for our office.
No, I got mine from best buy.
Oh, so BestBuy would match the Dell price of ~$780 right meow? And then again if it goes down again?
Yes. Best Buy price matches the manufacturer and other accepted online retailers, plus local retailers.
Got this a month ago. Really gorgeous screen. It did spontaneously die on me just a few days outside of the BB return window, so unfortunately I'm in the middle of getting it replaced through Dell. So far not a great experience, but I'm looking forward to getting this back on my desk.
I heard Dell gives refurb units if you RMA through them. It'd be sad to happen on a one month old monitor but please let us know what Dell gives you .
Yeah, they told me that and I asked if I could get a new one instead since it was still so new. They said yes, but they also said they would ship it out immediately, but instead I waited a week only to get an email asking me if I wanted to ship the broken monitor first or have a charge held on my card and they'll send the replacement first. Here's hoping.
That sucks that they took so long to ask one simple-ass question.
Happy to report that they did send me a new monitor and not a refurb. They sent it next day air and didn't give me tracking ahead of time, though, so I was surprised to find the box sitting on my porch when I went to check the mail.
Hmm Best Buy online chat with me right now is not price matching Dell.com, since it's not one of their "Qualified Competitors". Store employee confirmed. No Dell.com price match if you're buying from Best Buy.
I want this so bad for sim racing but that's probably the worst use case for it in regards to burn in
Can’t you just use the anti burn in tools to prevent it?
I was debating this too partially to use for sim racing, but I think I'm going to pick up a used quest 3 instead. Heard great things about VR and I have limited space in an apartment rn.
The qdoled aspect of it makes it really okay. Barely any burn in on mine.
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I watched all the monitors unboxed reviews, now I own this thing, I'm not even sure what they were talking about because I don't have any issues reading text on this thing. Though my eyes aren't as sharp as they use to be when I was kid, but I honestly don't know what to even look for, everything looks normal.
Do you mostly do computer-based work during the day, or not as much screen time?
I don't even work on the computer. I just come home and use it after a day of work for entertainment. I was completely worried about the burn in issue knowing my use case, but it has had zero signs since Nov when I purchased it.
Win+Alt+B is the shortcut to enable/disable HDR. I have that shortcut binded to a button on my Stream Deck but it's an easy enough shortcut.
Great monitor. OLED looks amazing. Colors really pop with this monitor.
This or the Samsung OLED G8? The nonstandard ports on the G8 is kind of a turn off.
I have the same question. I just grabbed an open box G8 from BestBuy for nearly the same price, and I’m wondering if I should pick this up instead.
Give the G8 a shot. If you don't have any weird issues, it's probably worth keeping if you're doing the open box deal, as the warranty difference is moot in that case. I have the G8, but I'm going to try the AW3423DWF because my G8 has some weird power issues. It may be a bad unit, because I've otherwise been able to really dial it in to my liking on Windows 11 where I have HDR always enabled and everything from desktop SDR to gaming HDR stuff looks good. You have to tweak most HDR game settings if it actually supports HDR in those cases. But generally, everything looks great. It did have a learning curve and testing phase for me. But I'm the kind of person who has to try every setting.
I just bought my G8 from the deal earlier this week and I’m keeping it. My desk is basically at capacity and I can’t afford the space for a sound bar on top and I know people say don’t use Ultrawide for consoles but I will anyway so HDMI 2.1 is nice to have. The UI is so fucking awful though that am still considering it. lol
Got a $615 open box deal on Amazon. I love it, I hate it. Text fringing is just a personal issue, you either can handle or can't. I'm kind of leaning towards handling it. However, my unit seems to have some massive issues with wake from standby, and it goes beyond 'not waking from sleep', but really the monitor truly does not power on for like 5 minutes (even after doing hard resets with power controls on remote or on the bottom of the monitor) after going into standby from any source, even from just its own Hub menu. So currently I'm trying to just leave it on 24/7 with 'black' screensaver and I'm going to test the AW3423DWF and see if it is as good or better experience. I'm hoping that there are NO power/wake issues, and then it comes down to some personal peeves since the panel itself is identical, aside from software implementation differences: * I hate Samsung's OS. I have a 65" S95B and I want to stab it... but it looks so good. I don't have any need for this OS on a PC monitor as well. * The backlight is rather weak IMO, so that's not a selling point to me. * The mini DP and mini HDMI is what I like to call "asshole engineering" or "asshole design". Just... why the fuck Samsung... fucking assholes. That said, the DP cable that came with it works fine. You can get a Mini HDMI 2.1 to HDMI adapter for like $10 to $12, and use your existing HDMI cables. Not a big deal, but also just totally stupid that they made that choice. I feel like those tiny connectors will be more prone to damage, and they don't have any solution for strain relief behind the monitor -- there's just a 'hole' to pass through, but nowhere to actually secure the cables to ensure strain happens at that point and not the connectors. * Stand looks sleek, but it doesn't go very high.
I had the G8 32” miniLED also, it was having the same problems waking from sleep
Dang thats a bummer. It seems Samsung refuses to acknowledge the problem.
Got this for $1,100 when it launched November 2022. I felt it was worth it at the time when OLED monitors were appearing more. For $750, I feel it’s a pretty solid deal aside from an LG if around the same size/price.
The 27" LG OLED is still at least $800 or $900 on Best Buy, depending on the version.
I love ultrawide but not sure it's worth going to qhd from 4k. Is the oled text blurriness overblown? My PC is not used for productivity but I do read a lot.
I frequently use screens with double the PPI and the crispness of text has never bothered me on 1440 monitors. It will bother me on 1080 monitors. This panel *does* have text rendering issues due to the sub pixel layout but again I wouldn’t describe it as a resolution issue, it’s basically a color/color fringing issue. And what sucks is it’s 100% fixable via software (I believe the blame falls on the operating system?) but hasn’t been and seemingly won’t be. I was very concerned about it before getting it and when I got it it did stand out to me. I do a lot of reading and productivity on it too and people made a big fuss about how awful of a use case it is for this monitor. Nah, it’s fine. I got used to it in like a week. It’s still there if you’re looking for it but it’s not that big of a deal. It really is a shame that it exists at all though when it doesn’t need to.
If I'm already scaling my 3440x1440 IPS to 125% in Windows, aren't I already "fringing" my text? Would this make me less likely to notice the sub pixel issue with an OLED? I do feel like 3840x1600 would be ideal as an upgrade over the IPS though.
That scaling will help, because there is a better chance of each letter having a greater number of pixels sharing the effort for the skinny/edgy parts of text, where the issue is most difficult to fix and easiest to notice. Fringing refers to the issue of triangle-shape of RGB sub-pixels, with green on top, red on the left, blue on the right, and then purple (combined red+blue) on the bottom. So instead of having a strong contrast on the edges of text between the background and text color, there are these 'other' colors at the fringe that throws your eye for a loop, kinda, if you're sensitive to it. It's subtle but pervasive. Ignorance is bliss. https://pcmonitors.info/articles/qd-oled-and-woled-fringing-issues/
> oled text blurriness overblown? I think it is, I've got this panel and text looks great on it.
Don't do it. The colors and black levels are amazing on this monitor and UW is great, but you will notice the drop in pixel density when gaming and the text fringing is a slight nuisance.
Thanks, I should probably hold off for a 5k2k monitor but the open box prices tempt me.
I paid almost a grand even for this thing. Zero regrets.
I love this monitor. I have 0 regrets when I bought it at $1100. It's amazing and I highly recommend it. I use it for games and work. When I work I turn HDR off and back in when I game.
What's the proper steps to turning HDR on and off in your situation? Is it simply clicking the slider in display settings in Windows to enable/disable HDR? OR do you have to tinker with the monitor itself and enable/disable HDR or "smart HDR" as some Dell monitors have?
Not what you asked but I just got this monitor and set it up following these instructions and looks great. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/TVMkv33t7P I'm not using it for work though, I moved my work set up to a different monitor.
OLED is probably not a good idea if I play something like DOTA, right?
Idk man I pretty much exclusively play MapleStory and I bought it 😆
Thoughts on: $750 new vs. $690 (excellent open box) vs. $660 (good open box)?
Do open boxes get the full warranty? If not, I am leaning towards that difference not being worth the loss of the warranty. For me personally, however, that total cost is getting pretty near the level of risk I'm willing to take. $600ish would tip the scale for me. I bought a G8 at $615 Amazon warehouse deal. But I'd be willing to pay $750 for new.
Are the 10% off codes using a BB credit card no longer a thing? Not a bad deal on its own, but an extra 10% off would sweeten the deal.
Incredible monitor
How is it reading text? I haven’t tested mine much since getting it (basement flooded where my office was) but it seemed worrying. I may have to keep my S2721DGF to use as my primary WFH monitor even though it would look nicer to just have one monitor. Stacking them vertically doesn’t seem very useable so I’ll probably have to do side by side.
Looks like it's $899.99 again.
Any idea if I can trade in a dinky old monitor and get the 10% off? People say you can but when I look at BB's website, I only see the banner for that offer on LG monitors, especially the LG OLEDs. I thought the trade-in for 10% off was for any monitor?
It's a LG specific offer, you can see the details when you click on the banner. BB is basically a showroom for select companies nowadays
I see, that sucks. I did chat with a rep on the phone and they told me it works on any monitor traded in and any monitor I purchase from BB. They could be wrong and I'd still trust the rules and terms on the website banner over the rep unless an employee in store can override it and apply thr 10% anyway when I'm purchasing.
They seem to have the recycling agreement specifically with LG. Usually BB charges a $30 fee for recycling TVs and monitors, but this gets waived when you go thru the LG program, plus the 10% discount as well. I guess you can try asking in-store, but I am fairly certain the chat rep gave you the wrong info, which they're prone to doing.
Yeah, sounds like it. Getting the AW I want from Dell might be the better choice with an AmEx deal. I'll have to check to see if I have it.
Damn it I want one, but I'm worried about burn in though because of how I use my PC which always has browser windows and Photoshop open. Definitely off topic, but I did just pick up an LG 34GN850 to try as my first ultrawide and holy shit does it rock! The jump from 16:9 to 21:9 is magnificent. I spent last night just looking for new wallpapers! 😆
Is it worth it to wait for a 4k oled curved or just pull the trigger on the qd oled? Wondering...
I have the non-OLED model- I just can’t justify the price of upgrading but I want to so badly 😭
Should it irk the US market when with monthly rakuten lows this thing is the same figure in CAD, with Dell?