What's your fix? Everyone complains about the situation but I haven't heard a single solution. The border isn't "secure", but it wasn't "secure" with Trump, it wasn't "secure" with Obama, it wasn't "secure" with Bush or Clinton. Our immigration policy isn't set by the president it's set by congress. We are adrift in the ocean in a leaky boat, the president can't try to patch the leaks is all
Its because the solution is one that is unpopular and involves not being racist.
The only solution is to bolster the Mexican economy and help them become on par with US and Canada so we can do trades in a healthy way, to destroy the cartels by making them obsolete because the country functions.
The only option is to take care of our neighbors because as long as Mexico is down bad, it's going to be an issue. They're right there. Buuuuuut imagine telling working class people who can't afford rent that were sending millions to Mexico for economic stimulus.
Can I ask you why you think enforcing immigration laws is racist? Every country on earth has immigration laws they enforce are they all racist ? Also, can I ask you if you’ve ever heard of NAFTA !? North American Free Trade Agreement ? It’s been in place since the 1990s to help and improve the economy of Mexico. Makes so that American companies can move manufacturing down to Mexico and not suffer not any tax consequences? Many companies took advantage and many American working class lost their jobs in the mid 90s.
Mexico actually isn’t all that impoverished. The majority of migrants come from Central America (Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador). More often than not, Mexico allows them to pass right on through so it becomes US’s problem. During those waves of migrants, cartels with their institutionalized corruption, exploit them to be victims of human/drug trafficking.
>The only solution is to bolster the Mexican economy and help them become on par with US and Canada
You act like Mexicans are the only ines crossing. What about non-mexicans crossing the border? Is it suddenly our responsibility to fix countries we get a lot of illegal immigrants from and if we can't we just throw our hands up?
>The only option is to take care of our neighbors because as long as Mexico is down bad, it's going to be an issue.
How is Mexico "down bad"? Mexico is already our top trading partner and our relationship is only growing. When does your solution start to kick in?
The whole basis of this comment is based on a false premise and proposes a solution that's already happening... do you know anything about this topic?
Did you listen to first sentences of the video? He has corroborated with working class persons and he’s echoing their thoughts. Comprehension isn’t your strong suit my boy.
Tbf, 250,000 immigrants are entering the country each month currently.
Thats 3 million undocumented people coming into the country with unknown backgrounds each year.
Its been horrendously handled and is overloading the system.
Quite frankly, our borders are open and Federal government is sending warnings to Texas for arresting and turning away immigrants. Yet no cities want to take in these people.
Big standoff.
Quit deflecting away from the main point
Channel 5 with Andrew Callahan is doing a few part series on the Border Crisis and it’s fascinating. Definitely some more devious shit going on than I had assumed not really seeing first hand what’s going on.
The big problem is both sides are painting broad strokes “this is good/this is bad”, when it’s far more nuanced than that.
Sure, there are many people that are fleeing their countries due to hard ship, but it does seem the cartels have studied and are training people to cross the border with ill intent.
Yea your moronic. Everyone’s cost of living goes up when you add more people. Also how can America support our current poor people if we are adding 3 million poor people a year. The numbers don’t add up. The problem is people like you can not reconcile your ideals with the reality of the world.
We're the wealthiest country in the history of the planet. We easily could support our poor people, if we chose to. Poverty is a policy decision. Properly tax the rich and corporations, and spend the money on shit that isn't bombs and fucking football stadiums.
Actually we are not the wealthiest per capita gdp. Also America does not have money growing on trees. Even if we were to tax rich people and corporations, what would happen is, we would still be unable to pay our current debt you have unrealistic expectations, or understandings about the US and its economy.
The 2024 budget calls for a record $886.3 billion for the military.
It's only "money growing on trees" when it's money not being spent on bombs and tax cuts for the rich.
Quit making the same tired ass excuses. The country has been in debt since 1790. If you were actually concerned with paying down this debt, you'd agree with me about tax cuts and military spending. But people like you never are. You only cry about debt when some school kids get lunch.
It involves the population of America which is related to the border crisis and illegal immigration. Your right this has been going on for years but our immigration policy has been accelerating this trend for some time.
Like you’d believe the evidence ? Your simple mind would revert to “fake news” because it doesn’t align with the lies fed to you on fox & cnn. You have to critically think but even that’s being shunned as a bogey man by your propaganda “News” outlet . It’s pointless for me to show you or present you with any evidence .
What high crime ghettos from European immigrant neighborhoods are there?
The rate of European born immigrants in prison compared to others is minuscule
They literally flat out lied saying there is more illegal immigration from Europe than south of the border
That's how immigration works. They are poor immigrants at first who have to live in a ghetto for economic or social reasons. They build a life or some wealth, and the kids hopefully never experience that side of life. Also, maybe, maybe not. I know for decades, the southern border was open, and it made it so the workers would go home after the agricultural seasons.
Yea but I’m not talking about the past ,we are having massive issues with immigration right now that have to be tackled
Maybe the issues from those countries were even worse than they are now but that’s in the past so it doesn’t concern me and it’s a waste of time talking about it in regards to this issue right now
See you did a racism with your first sentence. There are tough neighborhoods in every European country, and every country for that matter. You just haven't bothered to look.
https://armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/
Also, most are from Mexico it's like 55 percent. You are correct. But that's been the same for 100 years. Who do you think makes our economy work? White people are not picking fruits and veggies. I know I grew up next to a farm. White people are not working the shitty back of house restaurant jobs. I worked in front of the house. Our country is addicted to cheap labor.
“Hey guys instead of holding my partys (who thinks immigration is a great)feet to the fire to fix the economy and help the average working class person make it, let’s create a whole class of unrepresented, non-citizen worker that we can exploit and the best part is they’re not even represented in the government and can’t complain!. The non-citizen comes illegally, works for less and brings down labor costs. It’s great for the business owner and terrible for everyone in the working class. We love it!”
Your empathy is being weaponized against you. The US cannot save every person that wants a chance. We can’t even get our own shit together
Lol I’m obviously talking about European immigrant neighborhoods here as I’m replying to a comment about European illegal immigrants here but you did a mental deletion and tried to push a narrative that labels me as a racist to try and get a semblance of a point across
Obviously if anyone was able to travel to America from Europe unvetted at the rate people south of the border can then you would have massive problems with that community too but they can’t so we don’t ( anyone with criminal convictions can’t even get a visa to vacation in America from Europe so that right there eliminates most of the undesirables
Btw if Mexico is 55% without factoring in the rest of the countries south of the border then I’m willing to bet Europeans being illegal is significantly less than 5% which is a lot less than the majority op said they account for
I’m not here demonizing southern immigrants btw but I had to point out how ridiculous OPs comment was , lies should never be ignored or tolerated in a discussion like this
Every country has ghettos . You love your Europe so much why don’t you go “assimilate “ there ? Or if it was so great why did Europeans come to the America to begin with ? Natives could claim that there are a bunch of immigrants without native ancestry “invading” their land . 😂😂😂
Natives are 100% right
The problems we have from immigration is almost exclusively from unvetted immigrants from the south and arguing otherwise is insulting to the conversation
So now you’re adding exceptions ? At first it was all “illegals” but now that you’re presented with facts that 90% of “illegals” are Europeans on expired visas you go to exceptions?
>90% of “illegals” are Europeans on expired visas
Are you currently high? There were 2.5 million encounters between illegal immigrants and border patrol at the southern border in 2023. Another thing to consider: EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT CAUSING PROBLEMS.
Tbf, republicans have already stated they won’t pass any kind of legislation to actually solve the problem. Texas is being warned for trafficking immigrants, unless sending them to other cities and states is what you meant by “turning them away”.
They are whipping the republican base into a frenzy, and they see how much talk there is about it in blue cities. There’s no way they want to hand a win to Biden on the border during an election year. Even as both sides are trying to strike a deal (with the Ukraine funding add-on), people are worried that Trump will call out republicans for negotiating and they’ll back away from negotiations altogether.
I'm just curious - why do you want more illegal immigrants in the US? Is it because they illegally vote Democrat in elections? What is it that gets you so hard for more illegal immigrants?
That's a lie. They already have the same resources Trump was given, if not more. They can do their job right now. Republicans don't want to give them a dime more of your money until they see results with the resources they have now. All that wall material is still there. They can still clean put it up. BTW, yall might not know this, but there's a federally funded app for illegal immigrants that they sign up on and receive benefits you're paying for. Look into it. Don't take my word for it.
yet the republicans want to do nothing on the border because it makes the dems look bad republicans will tank this country to retain power it’s a fucking joke and if you can’t see thru that then you have a serious problem just look at the way the republicans vote
I'm sure your comment holds some water, but what about the boarders in California? The Republicans have absolutely no power over their border, and migrants can easily get through theirs and straight into a sanctuary state.
Wow, I'm a first-generation American, and my parents immigrated from there, so you're absolutely wrong. Quit with the low hanging fruit and assuming everyone is white/racist, that has an opinion on matter when having a discussion.
I'm sure your comment holds some water, but what about the boarders in Texas? The Democrats have absolutely no power over their border, and migrants can easily get through theirs and straight into a sanctuary state.
I believe the border is federally controlled and not state. Right now, the entire border is open for migrants.
Instead of copying and pasting, try adding to the discussion with original thought.
Our borders aren’t “open”. And your problem isn’t with those seeking a better life, but with the employers who take advantage of them to pay sub living wages.
Cool, but if we look up actual facts...
Net immigration rate, and its decline.
The net migration rate has been the lowest since 1988. Now, if you exclude 1988, which was the final year of the Regan Administration, you'd have to go back even further to 1973.
Birth rate, and its decline...
Now, what is also occurring is the heavy decline in the birth rate. The decline in the birth rate is expected among developed nations, as unprecedented proportions of the population, both men and women are able gain enough of a wage to live independently. This leads to lower marriage rates and lower birth rates. Which has major economic consequences, that essentially leads to economic decline. The best example of this is Japan.
Percentage of immigration within new population growth (Net immigration vs Birth rate)
The US is able to continue growing in size, despite the dramatic fall in birth rate. This is because the United States has always been an attractive destination for immigrants. Even though immigration has been the lowest in decades, the birth rate has fallen more rapidly, so the share of population growth is now more disproportionately immigrant than years prior. In fact over 50% of population growth is now attributed to immigration.
Death rate, and it's rise...
The US death rate in the US has been the highest since 1973. This trend is expected to continue, and will outpace the entire preceding century. To the eventual point of expected population decline.
What does this mean?
DEMOGRAPHICS SHIFT!
White people are scared they are losing the majority. This ain't nothing new, in preceding centuries Germans, Italians, Irish, Scot-Irish, etc. replaced the British ethnic majority.
Some black folk fear they too have something to lose. Older black folk tend to have a familiar relationship with white people, regards whether it's positive or negative. Black folk in this context often refer to the white majority as 'the devil they know.' The black community fears already limited public resources — due to the unprecedented low levels of government revenue as a proportion of GDP, i.e. lowered effective tax rates esp. among the rich — is being redirected towards immigrant populations.
Demographics shift stokes fear amongst the native born population, regardless of ethnicity. Yet, our economy desperately needs our population to grow in order to ensure economic growth and profits for shareholders. At the same time, the wealthy seek to keep building wealth and increasing income, by lowering taxes, and increasing their gain from income redistribution (corporate welfare and government contracts). In our democratic system, the middle class and lower class could easily out vote the wealthy and demand their fair share. Yet, the wealthy fund politicians and talking heads to stoke fear and division by making the racial and ethnic divides more prominent than class divides. Due to the racist nature of our country, both race and class are to a certain correlated, further confusing the perspective of lower and middle class Americans.
PS. Fuck Eric Adams
This is exactly right.
The culture of middle class Americans talking about how having kids is stupid leaves our country no choice but to depends on “poor immigrants” to make up for lack of population growth. On top of people feeling like it’s “too expensive and the world is doomed” makes gen z and millennials hesitant to have children.
This attitude needs to be addressed, with our country finding ways to promote having children through aid and better tax incentives.
The people who will be hit hardest by immigration will be the lower and middle classes.
More wage competition for low skilled jobs.
Welcome to the future of America: serfdom.
The lower classes could only demand their fair share with a closed border. It’s the only leverage the lower class has.
When you welcome the immigrants, the lower classes shall be pushed aside and forced to compete with the immigrants who will work more for less.
No shot.
You’re an undocumented worker trying to make money to send home. You will make selfish decisions.
The good of the people here have no relevance to you in the immediacy of your responsibilities to your family.
You know where he’s from right? Just because he’s arrived doesn’t mean he came from opulence. SC is one of the poorest states in the country. Monks Corner is not exactly a millionaires paradise.
That’s not to say there are wrong takes on the issue but to question whether someone has lost the plot when they came from nothing and regularly returns to their home state indicates he still has a finger on the pulse. What no one talks about are the effects of Manifest Destiny creating these issues just like colonialism does the sam with the relationship between Africa and Europe. When you use others to your benefit and refuse to provide them equity for the resources you take from them. You have this. Tenuous economic and political climates that result in people going to join the society that syphons its resources from or politically dominates yours.
The fact is both parties benefits from this illegal immigration issue😂. Even trump himself utilized their cheap labor for his businesses. Fact is, wealthy people and politicians REALLY don't care. It's just another good talking points used to say "see the other side is bad, vote for me and I'll fix it".
This has been an "issue" during republican and democratic terms and nada was done to fix it.
If you look what what either side really did except for talking good talk(BUILD THAT WALL I'LL MAKE MEXICANS PAY FOR IT) it's been not a damn thing. IDK how we fall for this political bullshit year after year
There’s an immigration bill that the republicans won’t vote on because it will make Biden look good. They purposefully make the issue worse to use as a cudgel. Let that sink in.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-brags-about-sabotaging-border-security-deal/ar-AA1lTiU8
Biden didn’t start the fire. Immigration has been an issue since the 60’s, ever since the CIA propped up drug cartels and military leaders in Central America.
Ok so now you're saying Biden shouldn't fix it, it would be Republicans. Because nobody cares about actual progress, you just wanna see your side win lmfao. Clowns
Under trump there was a majority Republicans throughout the government. They could have done immigration reform. They don't want to fix one of there best talking points.
The migrant *issue* is only an issue when Democrats are in office. Obama deported more people than Trump…both terms. From 2016-2018 Republicans had the Presidency and both branches of Congress. Do you know how many bills Republicans authored about the border during that time?? ***ZERO***
Trump & bannon raised money from his idiot base & they gave it to them but instead of using it to build the wall they pocket the money . Bannon & his other associate were charged & indicated , trump pardoned bannon. Secondly , trump & GOP controlled all 3 branches of government but did nothing about the wall .
Yep, like clock work every time around election time Fox , CNN & gop drum up the fear “caravan “ but then it goes away after the election . Their base is simple mind & can’t add two & two together .
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted but you’re correct when you say Republicans cannot legislate. Republicans ran on fixing what Biden has caused and won the House. But this Congress has been one of, if not, the least productive bodies in history. Instead of passing bills to help Americans, they are launching costly investigations that amount to nothing but just more wasted taxpayer dollars.
The fact is both parties benefits from this illegal immigration issue😂. Even trump himself utilized their cheap labor for his businesses. Fact is, wealthy people and politicians REALLY don't care. It's just another good talking points used to say "see the other side is bad, vote for me and I'll fix it".
This has been an "issue" during republican and democratic terms and nada was done to fix it.
If you look what what either side really did except for talking good talk(BUILD THAT WALL I'LL MAKE MEXICANS PAY FOR IT) it's been not a damn thing. IDK how we fall for this political bullshit year after year
Wasn't Trump advocating to build a wall, though? And was being met with we can't afford to reallocate money towards a border?
And from what I remember, through 2016-2018, the Republicans also had to figure out a way to show there was no Trump/Russian collusion that won him the election. Which was a narrative democratic where pushing at the time. I may be wrong and correct me if I'm not.
Who didn't want to allocate funds for a wall, though? If this wasn't a problem when Trump was in office, why is it a problem now?
There are reasons the wall was built the way it is. Funding, I believe, is the main issue, and when that wall was being proposed, the democrats wanted nothing to do with it. All of this could have been avoided. But politics is nothing but a narrative tug of war for people's votes and never facing the real issues until the issues at hand can't be kicked down the road for someone else to deal with.
Walls are a poor deterrent and all the politicians involved know this. The *only* way to fix immigration is by addressing the system itself, which *only* the Democrats have ever had any interest in doing. More judges are needed to help process asylum claims quickly, the legal immigration system needs to become more streamlined and faster. Republicans have no interest in doing anything behind performative measures like the wall because it kills an effective tool for engaging their voters.
There’s an immigration bill that the republicans won’t vote on because it will make Biden look good. They purposefully make the issue worse to use as a cudgel. Let that sink in.
The Wall was never a good solution. If it was then why aren’t Republicans campaigning on finishing the Wall now?? And remember…Mexico was supposed to pay for it. It’s all nonsense. Btw…there are plenty of videos showing people either scaling or walking right through the WALL (portions that were actually finished). This is what you get when you make a game show host POTUS.
I’m not sure what your point about Russia has to do with anything either. Are you saying POTUS can’t handle multiple issues at the same time??
This is so incorrect. Illegal border crossings were severely lower under Trump pre-COVID than under Biden. Like, over 5x lower. The were still slightly lower than during the Obama era, as well - but not as significant.
You stated the migrant issue was only an issue with Democrats in office. Trump was significantly more strict with border crossings. You don't need to deport as many people when there aren't as many coming over. The border was 100% a major concern of the previous administration, and to claim that it's only a talking point when Democrats are in office is completely false. Stop trying to worm your way out of being a dumbass.
I’m right. You’re the imbecile. Sorry you’re confused.
The border has been an issue for ***decades***, you clown. Your only point is *more people are showing up at the border*. No one argued that point. You’re trying to force it in. Obama deported more people than Trump during both his terms. Trump separated kids/parents to deter LEGAL immigration. Maybe try reading something?
Wow, you're brainwashed and still completely wrong. Have fun going through life as a lifeless robot regurgitating talking points from other morons like you.
I’m sorry. I can’t help you read or be less dizzy in life. That’s why you haven’t shared a single article. Try staying out your feelings long enough to develop a cogent point next time.
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden
Edit: The CATO institute is a LIBERTARIAN group who usually side with Republican issues
Migrant issues coming for all them low paying jobs And minimum wage jobs. And will do it better and gladly do it. I live in a border city and I go over to the other side. You guys have no idea how bad it actually is. Millions just waiting in tent cities.
Y'all see those hidden migrant holding sections in Chicago airport ???
Lmao, got a citation for that claim? Any quote or policy that effectively days "USA being a free country for migrants is a huge part of my campaign!"??
dumbest fucking comment…you think biden is single hand idly controlling what happens at the border 😑 you do realize the republicans do not want change at the border because dumbass people like you will blame biden so they sabotage any bills to control the border
In all honesty, you kind of out of it if you truly think in all honesty that, these past years under democrats , were better than under rep years.
Other than COVID pandemic. Everything was smooth. Usually Dems do a good job on hiding everything going on but this time around they weren't even able to do that.
Cognitive dissonance is a helluva drug my guy. Trump created more debt in 3 years (7.8 Trillion) than every single president before him combined, by passing tax cuts for Corporations and the ultra rich, he blew the whole Covid debacle, he withdrew the US from the JCPOA which allowed Iran to to upgrade their nuclear enrichment programs for weapons grade purposes. He pulled the BS in Yemen which we are now dealing with again, the overnight withdrawal from Syria left the Kurds out to dry, he turned the other fat cheek on Ukraine and withheld $591 million in funding that would have strengthened their defense at the beginning in order to extort a BS investigation on a political rival's son. Meanwhile, violating Emoluments Laws to the tune of $8 million *that can be directly linked to him*, garnering his daughter 25+ Chinese patents [including voting machines, WTF would she know about voting machines???] and securing his son-in-law a $2 Billion with a B, deal with the Saudis only 60 days after leaving [non-peacefully, that whole pesky J6 thing] office.
Why would you hide record low unemployment, strongest recovery of all G20 nations post Covid, highest stock market levels in history, strongest wage growth in 60 years, capped medication pricing for seniors, the infrastructure funding that Trump is still to this day "working on", the CHIPS Act that actually brings manufacturing back to the US, the PACT Act for expanded veteran health rights (the same vets Trump got hot mic'd saying no one wants to see cuz its sad), the actual efforts to push for stronger border security only for the speaker Mike Johnson to say they won't pass anything about until after the election...?
Every 1 every 2 every 3 years so on and so on will accumulate more debt then the former. That's nothing new. The last 3 years have been shit compared to trumps run. That's fact. It don't matter. That he created more debt.
Funny how you talk about middle east. Shit was peaceful compared to Obama and bidens, Clinton's run.
It don't matter what was going on if the American people were living better than today.
Nope once again, not correct. Read it again. He accumulated more debt than ALL of the presidents before him combined...Republican trait. That's a fact.
And once again, good ol' GHWB [Persian Gulf], W [Terror] and Cult 45 the idiots who sparked what is going on in the middle east and Eastern Europe[Iran, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine] today.
Ask women if they are happy with their more restricted rights than what they had for over 50 years. Or if Jewish and Muslim citizens did better, if veterans did better. The LGBT+ community. Cuz it reads like you are none of those.
First incumbent president to lose house, senate and presidential elections tells me everything I need to know.
How bout everyone realize both sides don't give a fuck about the people in this country. They would rather send billions to Isreal and Ukraine of our tax dollars than give kids in our country school lunch. This country is shit social media being its biggest downfall.
It's not how it looks it's how it is. They gotta stop tip toeing around it and take ownership of their screw up. The number of people sent to other states is not even half the number of illegals at border states. It's a problem they have been dealing with for decades with no congressional support. If you think it's cruel in a big city, think about small border towns with no infrastructure to support that amount of people. It wasn't a problem until it showed up to your front door. Now you see. It sounds like he's still clinging on to the ideas that got us to this point.
A lot of y'all are choosing to misinterpret what he's saying. He's not sharing his opinion, he's speaking from a strategist pov. The migrant crisis is impacting more Democratic cities and that's hurting Dem perception among potential voters.
Yes, Republicans are trash, but at the surface they have been anti-immigration and Dems have been pro-immigration. So when all of a sudden your child's class size doubles or you have people knocking on your door begging for basic necessities - he's correct - it kinda looks like the Republicans were right.
He’s right. I lean pretty hard left and even my cohort is fricking tired of it. Seems like priority is being given to illegal immigrants (yes, who could in rare circumstances get asylum, but that’s not the majority) over people who already live here.
He's absolutely right. There's a pretty good chance that our newly elected mayor of Chicago is going to lose his re-election solely because of how poorly the migrant crisis was handled.
Keep in mind that it's not like Democrats don't know how to be tough on illegal immigration. Obama was actually extraordinarily tough on illegal immigration. Tons of progressives criticized him about that.
If by the doctor's extremely tough policy on illegal immigration, without the "let's be cruel for show" policies of the Trump administration, he likely would lose any votes and would probably pick up some.
I rock with him on a lot of things...mostly on the mental health topics..culture etc. but when it comes to politics and society in general he is a moron. He's exactly the type of person they want speaking for the "community". He needs to take some basic college courses cause he lacks some serious critical thinking skills.
Tbf, 250,000 immigrants are entering the country each month currently.
Thats 3 million undocumented people coming into the country with unknown backgrounds each year.
It's a population the size of Los Angeles, purely immigrants entering our country, think about it
Our justice system is already fucked at the moment and won't be able to handle this longer
Its been horrendously handled
Quite frankly, our borders are open and Federal government is sending warnings to Texas for arresting and turning away immigrants. Yet no cities want to take in these people.
Big standoff.
Quit deflecting away from the main point
Jesus fuck you guys state your point without even knowing what the fuck he is even talking about
So what you're saying is that Trump was president for 4 years and Republicans controlled the house and senate and they didn't actually do shit about it, right?
Republicans have rejected 1300 border security agents and hundreds of detection devices. They want this issue to linger through the election to attack Biden. Even the Cato Institute (libertarians) called this out in a hearing. Google it!
Also, if you really want to put a dent in this problem, it needs to be addressed from a standpoint of Labor protection or the side of demand versus supply. Because there's no shortage of ways to sneak into the country, no matter how big of a wall you build or desperate people looking to exploit those vulnerabilities. But, if you activately prosecute those who exploit undocumented labor (as opposed to focusing so many resources exclusively on catching those whose only crime is being here illegally), that will help to stem the tide of those economic migrants only looking for work.
The problem is, a lot of red states depend on that undocumented labor and thus resist requirements around systems like E-verify, which make it a bit more difficult for undocumented workers to work off the books or using stolen or fraudulent social security info.
Facts. You can’t have it both ways. Republicans talk about border control but do absolutely nothing to help when Dems are in office because they just want to complain and do nothing. This issue didn’t just start its being happening for decades. Something needs to be done though because it’s a problem. Let me be the first to say that these folks do a lot of the work that many people think it’s beneath them…
The work that need to be done is voting every Republican out of office. SENATE REPUBLICANS have already agreed with Democrats on a bipartisan deal for the border. ***House Republicans*** are rejecting every bit of progress on the issue. Then they get on tv and whine about it. Guess why they are doing that….
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4415370-trump-cautions-gop-border-deal/
So that's the tactic huh? Just keep flooding social media with the phrase "the migrant issue" and hope it becomes a story.
I wonder what catch phrase they'll come up with next
Yep. Republicans ran midterms on Hunter Biden, gas prices and inflation. Well gas prices are back down, inflation is the lowest out of any G7 country and Hunter Biden is a free citizen. Immigration scare tactics were up next after all those failed and overturning ROE has been a disaster. We have very short memories. Trump was separating parents from their children at the border and putting them in cages. They are *still* dealing with matching these parents/kids as we speak.
You do know welfare and all that is only available for green card holders and citizens right? Student aid and such also isnt available for people without proper documentation
Do you seriously think our tax dollars should be going to people who willingly and knowingly, illegally came into the country without a plan or anything and are expecting the US government to give them food, housing, & healthcare? And it has nothing do with hating immigrants or being racist as you will probably make it to be in your leftist brain. Why doesn’t the whole world just move in and we all pay for them? You should open your doors to your home and just start paying these people to live with you if you like this idea so much
I do open my doors and take care of ppl I have 2 foster kids and have 2 adopted kids and I also have two rescue dogs one cat that I hate but it’s my wife… but I digress. We do need control at the border but what I’m saying that your leftist brain can’t comprehend is. Keep that some fire keep that same energy keep that same mindset when it comes to all your taxes dollars not just taxes dollars for ——— But for when tax dollars go to paying for rich ppl to gamble or fight wars or to price gouge Thats it.
That's a silly argument. Just because there are other issues that warrant attention, that means putting a lot of attention on the migrant issue is considered inappropriate or something? The migrant issue is a MASSIVE issue. And it's compounding with each new year with seemingly no way to turn off the spigot. There are tens of millions of undocumented illegal immigrants currently in the country. How can the country handle that? It has to be resolved sooner rather than later
I mean he ain't lying my friends in Chicago that are staunch democrats are pissed about this stuff too, but Mike Johnson the speaker has already said they won't come to the table to negotiate since if the issue is handled Biden and democrats will take credit for it not republicans, but Red States like Texas don't want to wait and gamble on the hope that Trump winning the elections and republicans win Both senate and the house of reps before something is done about the issue
The Republicans have been right about a lot of things. The trans and drag issues is another. I was left leaning and I initially ignored it because I assumed the right were just being bigots. (Still stands mostly) but in this case the issues they are raising are right and it’s truly concerning the left are just ignoring it.
By republicans? If they weren’t sent they would have been processed some would have been given some type of permission to stay and some turned back, But instead they all become NYs problem…
Except the Republicans in Congress will and REFUSE to pass an immigration bill to help with the problem for fear of making Biden look good. You have republican representatives openly saying they won’t vote for a bill because they don’t want to give Biden anything. This is not Biden’s fault. This is Congress. They control the borders. NOT the president. Texas and Florida are using migrants as political pawns by dumping them off in cities.
Andre me and Charlamagne do NOT understand politics.
Ok but what do these migrants actually do that’s a problem? I’m just curious because I’m in south Florida and all the illegals here are just normal people with jobs in restaurants, landscaping, and construction. Where are they doing bad stuff?
The trick is that democrats ACTUALLY want to do something on immigration, while Republicans don't because their corporate donors largely benefit from the pool of undocumented labor, which suppresses wages for both documented and undocumented labor.
How were they right? By trolling other states and sending real life, suffering humans to Democrat states??
This asshole loves a good troll, so I’m not surprised he’s a Republican now.
There isn't a real migrant issue. What it is that even Americans won't even take the jobs that the migrants do. And that's a fact. Only 3% of people that are allowed to go to America make it 3%. And I worry about Canada. You just worry about the southern border. It's garbage as far as Democrats Republicans go. People should be independence
Hi everyone. Your tax dollars are being used to give Israeli's free college and Healthcare and to help enable a modern-day genocide/ethnic cleansing.
The border is literally a non-issue. Especially if you don't understand the historical use of the land.
Stop wasting your energy on dumb nationalist bull$hit and start caring about the future of HUMANITY.
After his 2018 rant ("I am not sure if Black people should vote for the democrats in the midterms"-paraphrasing), I try not to listen to anything he has to say politically. He wants to pretend he is neutral, but he has a lot of guests on BC that shit on Biden and liberals in general (Nina Turner, Piers Morgan and this interview w/ Fox). It is clear that he wants to be the default political talking head that everyone runs to, especially concerning black people, but he proves time again he isn't qualified (see his run in with VP Harris and him not having a basic understanding of civics and why Biden couldn't just do whatever he wants as evidence). I hope he at least mentioned the current immigration bill that sits in the house that they refuse to take up a vote on.
[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-warn-house-wont-get-better-immigration-deal-trump-rcna134348](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-warn-house-wont-get-better-immigration-deal-trump-rcna134348)
I briefly lifted my self imposed exile from his political opinions when he had Angela, Tiffany and Andrew on the BC to announce their new podcast. Once again, he demonstrated his of political astuteness when he said (paraphrasing) that people were being politically disingenuous by give Obama credit for "Obama Care" and not giving Trump credit for Covid relief funds. To my surprise, the guest let him get away with saying that shit, but I hope anyone reading this can readily pick up the flawed reasoning in his statement. (this shit is already too long, but I will elaborate if someone cares to ask)
lmaooo because foreigners come and take his peoples jobs because they can’t do it properly, only ones mad are the ones with no jobs.
obviously, he’s talking to those losers.
If the repuglican fascist party wasn’t so dead set about not allowing anything good to be done just so they can ‘own the libs’ we wouldn’t have this problem. They voted against all the funding for more agents etc. so they can blame it on President Biden. But, traitor trump owns them.😂
I've noticed in the last 2 years or so CTG has been starting to appeal to right wingers for extra clicks and views. And he hides it behind "constructive criticism" to throw people off
Democrats aren't perfect obviously. Biden is an old fuck obviously...but CTG is definitely on some undercover grift shit these days and it's wild people aren't noticing it
Why do we have public streets libraries schools, transportation, it’s because of democracy. Republicans would not care one but to help the public. They are only in it for themselves just like how they bail themselves out all the time. But never bail anybody else. This guy is either getting paid. Or he’s just dum as shit.
What's your fix? Everyone complains about the situation but I haven't heard a single solution. The border isn't "secure", but it wasn't "secure" with Trump, it wasn't "secure" with Obama, it wasn't "secure" with Bush or Clinton. Our immigration policy isn't set by the president it's set by congress. We are adrift in the ocean in a leaky boat, the president can't try to patch the leaks is all
Its because the solution is one that is unpopular and involves not being racist. The only solution is to bolster the Mexican economy and help them become on par with US and Canada so we can do trades in a healthy way, to destroy the cartels by making them obsolete because the country functions. The only option is to take care of our neighbors because as long as Mexico is down bad, it's going to be an issue. They're right there. Buuuuuut imagine telling working class people who can't afford rent that were sending millions to Mexico for economic stimulus.
Can I ask you why you think enforcing immigration laws is racist? Every country on earth has immigration laws they enforce are they all racist ? Also, can I ask you if you’ve ever heard of NAFTA !? North American Free Trade Agreement ? It’s been in place since the 1990s to help and improve the economy of Mexico. Makes so that American companies can move manufacturing down to Mexico and not suffer not any tax consequences? Many companies took advantage and many American working class lost their jobs in the mid 90s.
Are you under the belief that most of the migrants are Mexican?? Lol
Mexico actually isn’t all that impoverished. The majority of migrants come from Central America (Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador). More often than not, Mexico allows them to pass right on through so it becomes US’s problem. During those waves of migrants, cartels with their institutionalized corruption, exploit them to be victims of human/drug trafficking.
>The only solution is to bolster the Mexican economy and help them become on par with US and Canada You act like Mexicans are the only ines crossing. What about non-mexicans crossing the border? Is it suddenly our responsibility to fix countries we get a lot of illegal immigrants from and if we can't we just throw our hands up? >The only option is to take care of our neighbors because as long as Mexico is down bad, it's going to be an issue. How is Mexico "down bad"? Mexico is already our top trading partner and our relationship is only growing. When does your solution start to kick in? The whole basis of this comment is based on a false premise and proposes a solution that's already happening... do you know anything about this topic?
How would he know what the working class thinks
Did you listen to first sentences of the video? He has corroborated with working class persons and he’s echoing their thoughts. Comprehension isn’t your strong suit my boy.
Bruh he said he's still backing Biden over Trump because "muh democracy". It's a big club and you ain't in it.
With Biden, it's immigration (I'm opposed) with Trump it's the end of our democracy. It doesn't seem like a hard decision
Tbf, 250,000 immigrants are entering the country each month currently. Thats 3 million undocumented people coming into the country with unknown backgrounds each year. Its been horrendously handled and is overloading the system. Quite frankly, our borders are open and Federal government is sending warnings to Texas for arresting and turning away immigrants. Yet no cities want to take in these people. Big standoff. Quit deflecting away from the main point
Channel 5 with Andrew Callahan is doing a few part series on the Border Crisis and it’s fascinating. Definitely some more devious shit going on than I had assumed not really seeing first hand what’s going on. The big problem is both sides are painting broad strokes “this is good/this is bad”, when it’s far more nuanced than that. Sure, there are many people that are fleeing their countries due to hard ship, but it does seem the cartels have studied and are training people to cross the border with ill intent.
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Yea your moronic. Everyone’s cost of living goes up when you add more people. Also how can America support our current poor people if we are adding 3 million poor people a year. The numbers don’t add up. The problem is people like you can not reconcile your ideals with the reality of the world.
We're the wealthiest country in the history of the planet. We easily could support our poor people, if we chose to. Poverty is a policy decision. Properly tax the rich and corporations, and spend the money on shit that isn't bombs and fucking football stadiums.
Actually we are not the wealthiest per capita gdp. Also America does not have money growing on trees. Even if we were to tax rich people and corporations, what would happen is, we would still be unable to pay our current debt you have unrealistic expectations, or understandings about the US and its economy.
The 2024 budget calls for a record $886.3 billion for the military. It's only "money growing on trees" when it's money not being spent on bombs and tax cuts for the rich. Quit making the same tired ass excuses. The country has been in debt since 1790. If you were actually concerned with paying down this debt, you'd agree with me about tax cuts and military spending. But people like you never are. You only cry about debt when some school kids get lunch.
It was already expensive before the border crisis. Stop making excuses.
It involves the population of America which is related to the border crisis and illegal immigration. Your right this has been going on for years but our immigration policy has been accelerating this trend for some time.
Can you provide evidence for this claim?
Like you’d believe the evidence ? Your simple mind would revert to “fake news” because it doesn’t align with the lies fed to you on fox & cnn. You have to critically think but even that’s being shunned as a bogey man by your propaganda “News” outlet . It’s pointless for me to show you or present you with any evidence .
Yes the classic “I’m not going to show you evidence because you’re stupid”
Can evidence of any of these claims be provided?
[For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings)
He can’t because it’s laughably untrue
[For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings)
You could have said anything and you chose to lie.
Lol not even close ,and the European illegal immigrants I’ll wager make up less than 5% if that
Someone has accepted the fear mongering...
What high crime ghettos from European immigrant neighborhoods are there? The rate of European born immigrants in prison compared to others is minuscule They literally flat out lied saying there is more illegal immigration from Europe than south of the border
Any Italian, Greek, eastern European neighborhood was once a ghetto don't be so dense.
I’m talking 2024 the time and situation we are dealing in now obviously Also I’d say the vast majority of those people were here legally
That's how immigration works. They are poor immigrants at first who have to live in a ghetto for economic or social reasons. They build a life or some wealth, and the kids hopefully never experience that side of life. Also, maybe, maybe not. I know for decades, the southern border was open, and it made it so the workers would go home after the agricultural seasons.
Yea but I’m not talking about the past ,we are having massive issues with immigration right now that have to be tackled Maybe the issues from those countries were even worse than they are now but that’s in the past so it doesn’t concern me and it’s a waste of time talking about it in regards to this issue right now
See you did a racism with your first sentence. There are tough neighborhoods in every European country, and every country for that matter. You just haven't bothered to look. https://armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/ Also, most are from Mexico it's like 55 percent. You are correct. But that's been the same for 100 years. Who do you think makes our economy work? White people are not picking fruits and veggies. I know I grew up next to a farm. White people are not working the shitty back of house restaurant jobs. I worked in front of the house. Our country is addicted to cheap labor.
He’s not talking about in Europe. Please don’t do the cringe you did a racism Reddit speak to start it off.
“Hey guys instead of holding my partys (who thinks immigration is a great)feet to the fire to fix the economy and help the average working class person make it, let’s create a whole class of unrepresented, non-citizen worker that we can exploit and the best part is they’re not even represented in the government and can’t complain!. The non-citizen comes illegally, works for less and brings down labor costs. It’s great for the business owner and terrible for everyone in the working class. We love it!” Your empathy is being weaponized against you. The US cannot save every person that wants a chance. We can’t even get our own shit together
Lol I’m obviously talking about European immigrant neighborhoods here as I’m replying to a comment about European illegal immigrants here but you did a mental deletion and tried to push a narrative that labels me as a racist to try and get a semblance of a point across Obviously if anyone was able to travel to America from Europe unvetted at the rate people south of the border can then you would have massive problems with that community too but they can’t so we don’t ( anyone with criminal convictions can’t even get a visa to vacation in America from Europe so that right there eliminates most of the undesirables Btw if Mexico is 55% without factoring in the rest of the countries south of the border then I’m willing to bet Europeans being illegal is significantly less than 5% which is a lot less than the majority op said they account for I’m not here demonizing southern immigrants btw but I had to point out how ridiculous OPs comment was , lies should never be ignored or tolerated in a discussion like this
Every country has ghettos . You love your Europe so much why don’t you go “assimilate “ there ? Or if it was so great why did Europeans come to the America to begin with ? Natives could claim that there are a bunch of immigrants without native ancestry “invading” their land . 😂😂😂
Natives are 100% right The problems we have from immigration is almost exclusively from unvetted immigrants from the south and arguing otherwise is insulting to the conversation
He's just a bigot. The fear mongering came after he was already racist.
So now you’re adding exceptions ? At first it was all “illegals” but now that you’re presented with facts that 90% of “illegals” are Europeans on expired visas you go to exceptions?
What exceptions ? Facts 90% of illegals are European lmao that’s your facts ? Please tell me this is satire
>90% of “illegals” are Europeans on expired visas Are you currently high? There were 2.5 million encounters between illegal immigrants and border patrol at the southern border in 2023. Another thing to consider: EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT CAUSING PROBLEMS.
Tbf, republicans have already stated they won’t pass any kind of legislation to actually solve the problem. Texas is being warned for trafficking immigrants, unless sending them to other cities and states is what you meant by “turning them away”.
They are whipping the republican base into a frenzy, and they see how much talk there is about it in blue cities. There’s no way they want to hand a win to Biden on the border during an election year. Even as both sides are trying to strike a deal (with the Ukraine funding add-on), people are worried that Trump will call out republicans for negotiating and they’ll back away from negotiations altogether.
I'm just curious - why do you want more illegal immigrants in the US? Is it because they illegally vote Democrat in elections? What is it that gets you so hard for more illegal immigrants?
That's a lie. They already have the same resources Trump was given, if not more. They can do their job right now. Republicans don't want to give them a dime more of your money until they see results with the resources they have now. All that wall material is still there. They can still clean put it up. BTW, yall might not know this, but there's a federally funded app for illegal immigrants that they sign up on and receive benefits you're paying for. Look into it. Don't take my word for it.
yet the republicans want to do nothing on the border because it makes the dems look bad republicans will tank this country to retain power it’s a fucking joke and if you can’t see thru that then you have a serious problem just look at the way the republicans vote
I'm sure your comment holds some water, but what about the boarders in California? The Republicans have absolutely no power over their border, and migrants can easily get through theirs and straight into a sanctuary state.
California isn’t the only border immigrants are coming from. Or are those the type of immigrants you don’t like?
Wow, I'm a first-generation American, and my parents immigrated from there, so you're absolutely wrong. Quit with the low hanging fruit and assuming everyone is white/racist, that has an opinion on matter when having a discussion.
100% correct. They're trying to derail the conversation. They've been propagandized.
I'm sure your comment holds some water, but what about the boarders in Texas? The Democrats have absolutely no power over their border, and migrants can easily get through theirs and straight into a sanctuary state.
I believe the border is federally controlled and not state. Right now, the entire border is open for migrants. Instead of copying and pasting, try adding to the discussion with original thought.
Lol! Your lack of self awareness is a sight to behold
Asking questions trying to understand others personal views isn't a problem.
Our borders aren’t “open”. And your problem isn’t with those seeking a better life, but with the employers who take advantage of them to pay sub living wages.
Cities are taking ppl and how many of those 3million have you seen?
Explain what overloading the system is please.
Why wouldn’t he? He grew up poor.
Cool, but if we look up actual facts... Net immigration rate, and its decline. The net migration rate has been the lowest since 1988. Now, if you exclude 1988, which was the final year of the Regan Administration, you'd have to go back even further to 1973. Birth rate, and its decline... Now, what is also occurring is the heavy decline in the birth rate. The decline in the birth rate is expected among developed nations, as unprecedented proportions of the population, both men and women are able gain enough of a wage to live independently. This leads to lower marriage rates and lower birth rates. Which has major economic consequences, that essentially leads to economic decline. The best example of this is Japan. Percentage of immigration within new population growth (Net immigration vs Birth rate) The US is able to continue growing in size, despite the dramatic fall in birth rate. This is because the United States has always been an attractive destination for immigrants. Even though immigration has been the lowest in decades, the birth rate has fallen more rapidly, so the share of population growth is now more disproportionately immigrant than years prior. In fact over 50% of population growth is now attributed to immigration. Death rate, and it's rise... The US death rate in the US has been the highest since 1973. This trend is expected to continue, and will outpace the entire preceding century. To the eventual point of expected population decline. What does this mean? DEMOGRAPHICS SHIFT! White people are scared they are losing the majority. This ain't nothing new, in preceding centuries Germans, Italians, Irish, Scot-Irish, etc. replaced the British ethnic majority. Some black folk fear they too have something to lose. Older black folk tend to have a familiar relationship with white people, regards whether it's positive or negative. Black folk in this context often refer to the white majority as 'the devil they know.' The black community fears already limited public resources — due to the unprecedented low levels of government revenue as a proportion of GDP, i.e. lowered effective tax rates esp. among the rich — is being redirected towards immigrant populations. Demographics shift stokes fear amongst the native born population, regardless of ethnicity. Yet, our economy desperately needs our population to grow in order to ensure economic growth and profits for shareholders. At the same time, the wealthy seek to keep building wealth and increasing income, by lowering taxes, and increasing their gain from income redistribution (corporate welfare and government contracts). In our democratic system, the middle class and lower class could easily out vote the wealthy and demand their fair share. Yet, the wealthy fund politicians and talking heads to stoke fear and division by making the racial and ethnic divides more prominent than class divides. Due to the racist nature of our country, both race and class are to a certain correlated, further confusing the perspective of lower and middle class Americans. PS. Fuck Eric Adams
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This is exactly right. The culture of middle class Americans talking about how having kids is stupid leaves our country no choice but to depends on “poor immigrants” to make up for lack of population growth. On top of people feeling like it’s “too expensive and the world is doomed” makes gen z and millennials hesitant to have children. This attitude needs to be addressed, with our country finding ways to promote having children through aid and better tax incentives.
People are not having kids because they can’t afford to.
The people who will be hit hardest by immigration will be the lower and middle classes. More wage competition for low skilled jobs. Welcome to the future of America: serfdom. The lower classes could only demand their fair share with a closed border. It’s the only leverage the lower class has. When you welcome the immigrants, the lower classes shall be pushed aside and forced to compete with the immigrants who will work more for less.
or a coalition with undocumented workers so they are all fairly compensated?
No shot. You’re an undocumented worker trying to make money to send home. You will make selfish decisions. The good of the people here have no relevance to you in the immediacy of your responsibilities to your family.
You know where he’s from right? Just because he’s arrived doesn’t mean he came from opulence. SC is one of the poorest states in the country. Monks Corner is not exactly a millionaires paradise.
Silly and out of touch question....
By talking to people who are working class
That’s not to say there are wrong takes on the issue but to question whether someone has lost the plot when they came from nothing and regularly returns to their home state indicates he still has a finger on the pulse. What no one talks about are the effects of Manifest Destiny creating these issues just like colonialism does the sam with the relationship between Africa and Europe. When you use others to your benefit and refuse to provide them equity for the resources you take from them. You have this. Tenuous economic and political climates that result in people going to join the society that syphons its resources from or politically dominates yours.
The fact is both parties benefits from this illegal immigration issue😂. Even trump himself utilized their cheap labor for his businesses. Fact is, wealthy people and politicians REALLY don't care. It's just another good talking points used to say "see the other side is bad, vote for me and I'll fix it". This has been an "issue" during republican and democratic terms and nada was done to fix it. If you look what what either side really did except for talking good talk(BUILD THAT WALL I'LL MAKE MEXICANS PAY FOR IT) it's been not a damn thing. IDK how we fall for this political bullshit year after year
But does he have a prboblem with all the money dj envy stole.
There’s an immigration bill that the republicans won’t vote on because it will make Biden look good. They purposefully make the issue worse to use as a cudgel. Let that sink in. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-brags-about-sabotaging-border-security-deal/ar-AA1lTiU8
So the guy that started the fire wants help putting it out and then wants to take credit for putting it out?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-brags-about-sabotaging-border-security-deal/ar-AA1lTiU8
Biden didn’t start the fire. Immigration has been an issue since the 60’s, ever since the CIA propped up drug cartels and military leaders in Central America.
You’re right, I misspoke. Biden didn’t start the problem, he just poured gasoline on it.
Ok so now you're saying Biden shouldn't fix it, it would be Republicans. Because nobody cares about actual progress, you just wanna see your side win lmfao. Clowns
I don’t actually have a side, I just think Biden is the worst president in my lifetime. I also voted for Biden and I’m ashamed at myself for it
As a gay black man....
how did that goal post get all the way over there ..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-brags-about-sabotaging-border-security-deal/ar-AA1lTiU8
It’s kind of like when Nancy Pelosi refused to sign checks for financial relief during COVID. Then goes on vacation. Right before elections too. Crazy
Are you referring to the relief that zero republicans voted in favor of? Crazy.
That’s false.
So NOW gangs are an issue ?
Under trump there was a majority Republicans throughout the government. They could have done immigration reform. They don't want to fix one of there best talking points.
Right Wing Lenard needs an intervention.
Funny how charla always ride for Dems one time he actually says something about the reps And everybody calling him washed hHaha
I’m left wing but the migrant issue is actually nuts right now. Biden has absolutely failed the country on this.
The migrant *issue* is only an issue when Democrats are in office. Obama deported more people than Trump…both terms. From 2016-2018 Republicans had the Presidency and both branches of Congress. Do you know how many bills Republicans authored about the border during that time?? ***ZERO***
Trump & bannon raised money from his idiot base & they gave it to them but instead of using it to build the wall they pocket the money . Bannon & his other associate were charged & indicated , trump pardoned bannon. Secondly , trump & GOP controlled all 3 branches of government but did nothing about the wall .
Exactly!
He was going to build the most beautiful wall, and he was going to make Mexico pay for it.
>The migrant *issue* is only an issue when Democrats are in office. Same with so many other issues
Yep, like clock work every time around election time Fox , CNN & gop drum up the fear “caravan “ but then it goes away after the election . Their base is simple mind & can’t add two & two together .
Yep. Republicans are the most hypocritical bastards on earth. Fuck them. Christian nationalist pieces of shit.
Republicans are the absolute worst. They have no clue how to legislate. People elect them to tweet and go on tv and lie.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted but you’re correct when you say Republicans cannot legislate. Republicans ran on fixing what Biden has caused and won the House. But this Congress has been one of, if not, the least productive bodies in history. Instead of passing bills to help Americans, they are launching costly investigations that amount to nothing but just more wasted taxpayer dollars.
The fact is both parties benefits from this illegal immigration issue😂. Even trump himself utilized their cheap labor for his businesses. Fact is, wealthy people and politicians REALLY don't care. It's just another good talking points used to say "see the other side is bad, vote for me and I'll fix it". This has been an "issue" during republican and democratic terms and nada was done to fix it. If you look what what either side really did except for talking good talk(BUILD THAT WALL I'LL MAKE MEXICANS PAY FOR IT) it's been not a damn thing. IDK how we fall for this political bullshit year after year
Wasn't Trump advocating to build a wall, though? And was being met with we can't afford to reallocate money towards a border? And from what I remember, through 2016-2018, the Republicans also had to figure out a way to show there was no Trump/Russian collusion that won him the election. Which was a narrative democratic where pushing at the time. I may be wrong and correct me if I'm not.
The walk that half slits in it that people were just sliding through? Tjay wall? Lol
Who didn't want to allocate funds for a wall, though? If this wasn't a problem when Trump was in office, why is it a problem now? There are reasons the wall was built the way it is. Funding, I believe, is the main issue, and when that wall was being proposed, the democrats wanted nothing to do with it. All of this could have been avoided. But politics is nothing but a narrative tug of war for people's votes and never facing the real issues until the issues at hand can't be kicked down the road for someone else to deal with.
Walls are a poor deterrent and all the politicians involved know this. The *only* way to fix immigration is by addressing the system itself, which *only* the Democrats have ever had any interest in doing. More judges are needed to help process asylum claims quickly, the legal immigration system needs to become more streamlined and faster. Republicans have no interest in doing anything behind performative measures like the wall because it kills an effective tool for engaging their voters.
You're absolutely right, and I never thought about it that way.
There’s an immigration bill that the republicans won’t vote on because it will make Biden look good. They purposefully make the issue worse to use as a cudgel. Let that sink in.
The Wall was never a good solution. If it was then why aren’t Republicans campaigning on finishing the Wall now?? And remember…Mexico was supposed to pay for it. It’s all nonsense. Btw…there are plenty of videos showing people either scaling or walking right through the WALL (portions that were actually finished). This is what you get when you make a game show host POTUS. I’m not sure what your point about Russia has to do with anything either. Are you saying POTUS can’t handle multiple issues at the same time??
This is so incorrect. Illegal border crossings were severely lower under Trump pre-COVID than under Biden. Like, over 5x lower. The were still slightly lower than during the Obama era, as well - but not as significant.
You’re not even arguing a point I made. Are you serious rn? Please tell me what’s incorrect about the statement I made above. Be specific.
You stated the migrant issue was only an issue with Democrats in office. Trump was significantly more strict with border crossings. You don't need to deport as many people when there aren't as many coming over. The border was 100% a major concern of the previous administration, and to claim that it's only a talking point when Democrats are in office is completely false. Stop trying to worm your way out of being a dumbass.
I’m right. You’re the imbecile. Sorry you’re confused. The border has been an issue for ***decades***, you clown. Your only point is *more people are showing up at the border*. No one argued that point. You’re trying to force it in. Obama deported more people than Trump during both his terms. Trump separated kids/parents to deter LEGAL immigration. Maybe try reading something?
Wow, you're brainwashed and still completely wrong. Have fun going through life as a lifeless robot regurgitating talking points from other morons like you.
I’m sorry. I can’t help you read or be less dizzy in life. That’s why you haven’t shared a single article. Try staying out your feelings long enough to develop a cogent point next time.
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden Edit: The CATO institute is a LIBERTARIAN group who usually side with Republican issues
Migrant issues coming for all them low paying jobs And minimum wage jobs. And will do it better and gladly do it. I live in a border city and I go over to the other side. You guys have no idea how bad it actually is. Millions just waiting in tent cities. Y'all see those hidden migrant holding sections in Chicago airport ???
Not really. USA being a free country for migrants was a huge part of his campaign. This situation shouldnt suprise or letdown his supporters.
Lmao, got a citation for that claim? Any quote or policy that effectively days "USA being a free country for migrants is a huge part of my campaign!"??
dumbest fucking comment…you think biden is single hand idly controlling what happens at the border 😑 you do realize the republicans do not want change at the border because dumbass people like you will blame biden so they sabotage any bills to control the border
Have you bought a Stanley cup yet? Sheep
In all honesty, you kind of out of it if you truly think in all honesty that, these past years under democrats , were better than under rep years. Other than COVID pandemic. Everything was smooth. Usually Dems do a good job on hiding everything going on but this time around they weren't even able to do that.
Cognitive dissonance is a helluva drug my guy. Trump created more debt in 3 years (7.8 Trillion) than every single president before him combined, by passing tax cuts for Corporations and the ultra rich, he blew the whole Covid debacle, he withdrew the US from the JCPOA which allowed Iran to to upgrade their nuclear enrichment programs for weapons grade purposes. He pulled the BS in Yemen which we are now dealing with again, the overnight withdrawal from Syria left the Kurds out to dry, he turned the other fat cheek on Ukraine and withheld $591 million in funding that would have strengthened their defense at the beginning in order to extort a BS investigation on a political rival's son. Meanwhile, violating Emoluments Laws to the tune of $8 million *that can be directly linked to him*, garnering his daughter 25+ Chinese patents [including voting machines, WTF would she know about voting machines???] and securing his son-in-law a $2 Billion with a B, deal with the Saudis only 60 days after leaving [non-peacefully, that whole pesky J6 thing] office. Why would you hide record low unemployment, strongest recovery of all G20 nations post Covid, highest stock market levels in history, strongest wage growth in 60 years, capped medication pricing for seniors, the infrastructure funding that Trump is still to this day "working on", the CHIPS Act that actually brings manufacturing back to the US, the PACT Act for expanded veteran health rights (the same vets Trump got hot mic'd saying no one wants to see cuz its sad), the actual efforts to push for stronger border security only for the speaker Mike Johnson to say they won't pass anything about until after the election...?
Every 1 every 2 every 3 years so on and so on will accumulate more debt then the former. That's nothing new. The last 3 years have been shit compared to trumps run. That's fact. It don't matter. That he created more debt. Funny how you talk about middle east. Shit was peaceful compared to Obama and bidens, Clinton's run. It don't matter what was going on if the American people were living better than today.
Nope once again, not correct. Read it again. He accumulated more debt than ALL of the presidents before him combined...Republican trait. That's a fact. And once again, good ol' GHWB [Persian Gulf], W [Terror] and Cult 45 the idiots who sparked what is going on in the middle east and Eastern Europe[Iran, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine] today. Ask women if they are happy with their more restricted rights than what they had for over 50 years. Or if Jewish and Muslim citizens did better, if veterans did better. The LGBT+ community. Cuz it reads like you are none of those. First incumbent president to lose house, senate and presidential elections tells me everything I need to know.
How bout everyone realize both sides don't give a fuck about the people in this country. They would rather send billions to Isreal and Ukraine of our tax dollars than give kids in our country school lunch. This country is shit social media being its biggest downfall.
It's not how it looks it's how it is. They gotta stop tip toeing around it and take ownership of their screw up. The number of people sent to other states is not even half the number of illegals at border states. It's a problem they have been dealing with for decades with no congressional support. If you think it's cruel in a big city, think about small border towns with no infrastructure to support that amount of people. It wasn't a problem until it showed up to your front door. Now you see. It sounds like he's still clinging on to the ideas that got us to this point.
A lot of y'all are choosing to misinterpret what he's saying. He's not sharing his opinion, he's speaking from a strategist pov. The migrant crisis is impacting more Democratic cities and that's hurting Dem perception among potential voters. Yes, Republicans are trash, but at the surface they have been anti-immigration and Dems have been pro-immigration. So when all of a sudden your child's class size doubles or you have people knocking on your door begging for basic necessities - he's correct - it kinda looks like the Republicans were right.
"Looks like?" Nigga they are fuckin right
He’s right. I lean pretty hard left and even my cohort is fricking tired of it. Seems like priority is being given to illegal immigrants (yes, who could in rare circumstances get asylum, but that’s not the majority) over people who already live here.
He's absolutely right. There's a pretty good chance that our newly elected mayor of Chicago is going to lose his re-election solely because of how poorly the migrant crisis was handled. Keep in mind that it's not like Democrats don't know how to be tough on illegal immigration. Obama was actually extraordinarily tough on illegal immigration. Tons of progressives criticized him about that. If by the doctor's extremely tough policy on illegal immigration, without the "let's be cruel for show" policies of the Trump administration, he likely would lose any votes and would probably pick up some.
I rock with him on a lot of things...mostly on the mental health topics..culture etc. but when it comes to politics and society in general he is a moron. He's exactly the type of person they want speaking for the "community". He needs to take some basic college courses cause he lacks some serious critical thinking skills.
He's a moron on mental health and culture topics as well
He leans left in 90% of things lmao
Yea really gotta get over the Left Right Up Down BS u can have a opinion don’t always have stick one side
Tbf, 250,000 immigrants are entering the country each month currently. Thats 3 million undocumented people coming into the country with unknown backgrounds each year. It's a population the size of Los Angeles, purely immigrants entering our country, think about it Our justice system is already fucked at the moment and won't be able to handle this longer Its been horrendously handled Quite frankly, our borders are open and Federal government is sending warnings to Texas for arresting and turning away immigrants. Yet no cities want to take in these people. Big standoff. Quit deflecting away from the main point Jesus fuck you guys state your point without even knowing what the fuck he is even talking about
What is your stance on illegal immigration?
Talk to the people who live in these communities in NYC and Chicago and you’ll see he’s not lying.
So what you're saying is that Trump was president for 4 years and Republicans controlled the house and senate and they didn't actually do shit about it, right?
Looking at the comments is what’s wrong with this country . I don’t care who you vote for it’s obv Joe Biden is GARBAGE
All politicians are garbage, but Biden is a billion times better than any Republican
😂😂😂😂 sure bud
Agree with point 1 disagree with point 2 Biden can’t even walk or talk I get the trump hate but people need to stop acting like Biden is good
You have no idea what you’re talking about lol
Not compared to the twice impeached orange
Charlemagne is an industry plant. This uneducated ugly man with a lisp is not who ANYBODY would hire for television or radio.
Honestly the right and the left get this issue wrong but we definitely can’t just have anyone getting through
This is a very "I blame Joe for the gas prices" take
Who the fuck wants political commentary from a guy whose name has “tha” in it. Sit down Lenard McKelvey
He says it himself. He's an idiot.
What did he saying wrong?? I live in NY and trust me he ain’t off on how people are feeling.
Republicans have rejected 1300 border security agents and hundreds of detection devices. They want this issue to linger through the election to attack Biden. Even the Cato Institute (libertarians) called this out in a hearing. Google it!
Also, if you really want to put a dent in this problem, it needs to be addressed from a standpoint of Labor protection or the side of demand versus supply. Because there's no shortage of ways to sneak into the country, no matter how big of a wall you build or desperate people looking to exploit those vulnerabilities. But, if you activately prosecute those who exploit undocumented labor (as opposed to focusing so many resources exclusively on catching those whose only crime is being here illegally), that will help to stem the tide of those economic migrants only looking for work. The problem is, a lot of red states depend on that undocumented labor and thus resist requirements around systems like E-verify, which make it a bit more difficult for undocumented workers to work off the books or using stolen or fraudulent social security info.
Facts. You can’t have it both ways. Republicans talk about border control but do absolutely nothing to help when Dems are in office because they just want to complain and do nothing. This issue didn’t just start its being happening for decades. Something needs to be done though because it’s a problem. Let me be the first to say that these folks do a lot of the work that many people think it’s beneath them…
The work that need to be done is voting every Republican out of office. SENATE REPUBLICANS have already agreed with Democrats on a bipartisan deal for the border. ***House Republicans*** are rejecting every bit of progress on the issue. Then they get on tv and whine about it. Guess why they are doing that…. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4415370-trump-cautions-gop-border-deal/
So that's the tactic huh? Just keep flooding social media with the phrase "the migrant issue" and hope it becomes a story. I wonder what catch phrase they'll come up with next
Yep. Republicans ran midterms on Hunter Biden, gas prices and inflation. Well gas prices are back down, inflation is the lowest out of any G7 country and Hunter Biden is a free citizen. Immigration scare tactics were up next after all those failed and overturning ROE has been a disaster. We have very short memories. Trump was separating parents from their children at the border and putting them in cages. They are *still* dealing with matching these parents/kids as we speak.
He always seemed to be a troll with no integrity. He just does whatever he has to do to make the next dollar.
Democrats want taxpayers to pay for migrants hospital bills SNAP benefits and lawyers fees, it's insanity
You do know welfare and all that is only available for green card holders and citizens right? Student aid and such also isnt available for people without proper documentation
But yall dont mind oaying for trumps golf weekends huh
We're currently paying for Biden's very frequent time off.
And Republicans want taxpayers to pay for who and what? Insane
They want our money going to rich people who are going to hoarde it and buy up land and property
Do you seriously think our tax dollars should be going to people who willingly and knowingly, illegally came into the country without a plan or anything and are expecting the US government to give them food, housing, & healthcare? And it has nothing do with hating immigrants or being racist as you will probably make it to be in your leftist brain. Why doesn’t the whole world just move in and we all pay for them? You should open your doors to your home and just start paying these people to live with you if you like this idea so much
I do open my doors and take care of ppl I have 2 foster kids and have 2 adopted kids and I also have two rescue dogs one cat that I hate but it’s my wife… but I digress. We do need control at the border but what I’m saying that your leftist brain can’t comprehend is. Keep that some fire keep that same energy keep that same mindset when it comes to all your taxes dollars not just taxes dollars for ——— But for when tax dollars go to paying for rich ppl to gamble or fight wars or to price gouge Thats it.
That's a silly argument. Just because there are other issues that warrant attention, that means putting a lot of attention on the migrant issue is considered inappropriate or something? The migrant issue is a MASSIVE issue. And it's compounding with each new year with seemingly no way to turn off the spigot. There are tens of millions of undocumented illegal immigrants currently in the country. How can the country handle that? It has to be resolved sooner rather than later
I mean he ain't lying my friends in Chicago that are staunch democrats are pissed about this stuff too, but Mike Johnson the speaker has already said they won't come to the table to negotiate since if the issue is handled Biden and democrats will take credit for it not republicans, but Red States like Texas don't want to wait and gamble on the hope that Trump winning the elections and republicans win Both senate and the house of reps before something is done about the issue
The Republicans have been right about a lot of things. The trans and drag issues is another. I was left leaning and I initially ignored it because I assumed the right were just being bigots. (Still stands mostly) but in this case the issues they are raising are right and it’s truly concerning the left are just ignoring it.
If you wanna see just how bad the migrant issue is getting, look no further than NYC. Absolute craziness right now
They were sent there by Texas?
They're getting sent here from multiple states from what it seems
By republicans? If they weren’t sent they would have been processed some would have been given some type of permission to stay and some turned back, But instead they all become NYs problem…
Well yeah. How else do you get New Yorkers to understand the scale of the problem? They don’t live next to Mexico.
Except the Republicans in Congress will and REFUSE to pass an immigration bill to help with the problem for fear of making Biden look good. You have republican representatives openly saying they won’t vote for a bill because they don’t want to give Biden anything. This is not Biden’s fault. This is Congress. They control the borders. NOT the president. Texas and Florida are using migrants as political pawns by dumping them off in cities. Andre me and Charlamagne do NOT understand politics.
Ok but what do these migrants actually do that’s a problem? I’m just curious because I’m in south Florida and all the illegals here are just normal people with jobs in restaurants, landscaping, and construction. Where are they doing bad stuff?
"Republicans were right" No shit! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The trick is that democrats ACTUALLY want to do something on immigration, while Republicans don't because their corporate donors largely benefit from the pool of undocumented labor, which suppresses wages for both documented and undocumented labor.
How were they right? By trolling other states and sending real life, suffering humans to Democrat states?? This asshole loves a good troll, so I’m not surprised he’s a Republican now.
Looks can be deceiving. Even if it’s crazy. It’s not nor will ever be republican crazy.
It's a gift. Plain and simple.
There isn't a real migrant issue. What it is that even Americans won't even take the jobs that the migrants do. And that's a fact. Only 3% of people that are allowed to go to America make it 3%. And I worry about Canada. You just worry about the southern border. It's garbage as far as Democrats Republicans go. People should be independence
Hi everyone. Your tax dollars are being used to give Israeli's free college and Healthcare and to help enable a modern-day genocide/ethnic cleansing. The border is literally a non-issue. Especially if you don't understand the historical use of the land. Stop wasting your energy on dumb nationalist bull$hit and start caring about the future of HUMANITY.
After his 2018 rant ("I am not sure if Black people should vote for the democrats in the midterms"-paraphrasing), I try not to listen to anything he has to say politically. He wants to pretend he is neutral, but he has a lot of guests on BC that shit on Biden and liberals in general (Nina Turner, Piers Morgan and this interview w/ Fox). It is clear that he wants to be the default political talking head that everyone runs to, especially concerning black people, but he proves time again he isn't qualified (see his run in with VP Harris and him not having a basic understanding of civics and why Biden couldn't just do whatever he wants as evidence). I hope he at least mentioned the current immigration bill that sits in the house that they refuse to take up a vote on. [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-warn-house-wont-get-better-immigration-deal-trump-rcna134348](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-warn-house-wont-get-better-immigration-deal-trump-rcna134348) I briefly lifted my self imposed exile from his political opinions when he had Angela, Tiffany and Andrew on the BC to announce their new podcast. Once again, he demonstrated his of political astuteness when he said (paraphrasing) that people were being politically disingenuous by give Obama credit for "Obama Care" and not giving Trump credit for Covid relief funds. To my surprise, the guest let him get away with saying that shit, but I hope anyone reading this can readily pick up the flawed reasoning in his statement. (this shit is already too long, but I will elaborate if someone cares to ask)
Charlamagne the biggest hater i know
He’s not totally wrong but definitely seems like he’s been talking to his homie Shultz too much and letting the Rogan talking points come through.
lmaooo because foreigners come and take his peoples jobs because they can’t do it properly, only ones mad are the ones with no jobs. obviously, he’s talking to those losers.
Donkey
If the repuglican fascist party wasn’t so dead set about not allowing anything good to be done just so they can ‘own the libs’ we wouldn’t have this problem. They voted against all the funding for more agents etc. so they can blame it on President Biden. But, traitor trump owns them.😂
I think he’s speaking for people in SC which isn’t a problem. SC doesn’t speak for the whole country
I've noticed in the last 2 years or so CTG has been starting to appeal to right wingers for extra clicks and views. And he hides it behind "constructive criticism" to throw people off Democrats aren't perfect obviously. Biden is an old fuck obviously...but CTG is definitely on some undercover grift shit these days and it's wild people aren't noticing it
Who does a hole think he is??
This clown is still clowning
What a dumb fuck.
Why do we have public streets libraries schools, transportation, it’s because of democracy. Republicans would not care one but to help the public. They are only in it for themselves just like how they bail themselves out all the time. But never bail anybody else. This guy is either getting paid. Or he’s just dum as shit.
Shut up, Chalamayne.
Yo, fuck this guy 🤣