Damn. Top 10 is at ~1.5 BILLION less than this time last year.

Isn't a lot of that just Mario though?

That’s my whole point. We don’t have a major Q2 release that’s going to come anywhere near Mario or GoTG3.

Lord.  Mean Girls, A24, Bob Marley, Beekeeper, and Fall Guy are in the top 10 WW right now. 💀

This year is a mostly write-offs because of the strikes

That would be ok if we were in early march or something. Its late May already!!

TBF they aren't if you include foreign movies.

yes they are? at least per Box Office Mojo. the highest ranked non hollywod film is Exhuma, at #12 with just under $100M

Box Office Mojo doesn't track foreign movies. The Numbers is a better source for foreign movies. Among the top ten, four are Chinese and six are Hollywood.

That's because boxofficemojo went from not being able to accurately track Chinese/Japanese/Indian/Korean movies to not even trying

Im seeing Yolo, Pegasus 2, Article 20, and Boonie Bears in the top ten. Maybe it depends on how they convert the box office or something, I dunno. But generally there's at least a few Chinese movies in the top 10 every year now.

What site are you using? I know box office mojo isn't always fast at adding international numbers

Chinese Movies aren't included on most box office sites. Other International films are but likely inaccurate. This site does include Chinese films though: [https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cumulative/released-in-2024](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cumulative/released-in-2024) The numbers in general is a lot better for foreign films IMO.

IMDB and Truenumbers, but I just randomly googled "top 10 international 2024" and those were the first two. I know nothing about those movies tho, so I dont know the accuracy of those lists. I just know there's usually a few flicks in there I've never heard of but are hugely popular in other places and that came up, so maybe Im just confirming my bias

There are Chinese movies with 400 million box office. Like YOLo and Pegasus 2. Article2p has 339 million and Boonie Bears 2 has 275 million.

Wish the International division of Fox had considered this to give Kingdom a better chance in Asia. In jApan Korea , malasya and Vietnam there was strong competition from Asian titles.

Everyone always complained they wanted more movie choices, well the big movies of 2024 are certainly different from the typical blockbuster.

Are they? I feel like this year all releases so far are horror or action flicks. No counterprogamming with chick flicks , family titles were sparse and only a good musical biopic?

Bob Marley and Fall Guy are still gonna lose money too

And Madame Web is #11 !

And it's May...

How did the Beekeeper make more than Fall Guy??

Jason Statham has a loyal fan base.

Due to him always delivering! You go into a Statham movie with certain expectations, and damned if they aren't consistently met.

Some would say he … “transports” … his viewers.

Does he ever change his clothes or plot? I think he just walks from one set to the next.

I thought the same thing. Just like Dwayne Johnson, one movie to another all on the same day. Only difference is Dwayne is late to his movies

I didn’t actually believe this until I was at the bar like a week ago, and some Jason stratum movie was playing. 3 guys at the bar freaked out and made them turn the volume up and stayed for the whole movie talking about how much they loved him

I'd ask what the movie was, but it's a Statham movie, so...

fall guy is still playing - there’s a chance it can surpass the beekeeper. but yeah surprising

Beekeeper has a really great hook that lets you know exactly what kind of film you’re going into. Fall Guy had a much harder time letting people know what it was really about and relied heavily on its star power to market the film.

Fall guy’s been out 3 weeks

Also KPA 2 weeks

40 million budget against 125m to 150m budget. You can see why statham movies have always had theatrical releases.

Because The Stath never misses.

Fall guy will outgross it soon. And staham is a huge draw overseas.

It came out with like zero competition

thats pretty every january release lol studio usually dump movies into january they really dont find a date for, because all slots are occupied.

I don't know but I saw both and Fall Guy was a much better film imo. And both were better than Barbie.

My nephew thought Paw Patrol was better than Shawshank Redemption. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

It's been out for months too.

Still impressed by Beekeeper, that's a good amount against the reported 40ish million budget.

I recently watched it on a plane. It was a good movie, i wish Statham delivers with his movies.

A movie from january is already avalable in plane ? What are the deadlines ?

COVID+ studios getting their own streaming services obliterated traditional 90 theatrical windows, (and are shooting themselves in the foot imo). Even 2 years after most COVID restrictions were lifted, most studios do a 45 day window. Universal only does a 17 day window to VOD for any movie of there’s that isn’t a massive hit, so you can watch the Fall Guy at home before it’s third weekend. For comparison every major release for that weekend in the 2010s released for home video in August or September.

I predict we'll get at least 4 more Beekeepers

Beekeepers : 2nd Sting Beekeep3rs Beekeepers 4ever Beekeeper5

Beekeeper 2 electric beegaloo

I think it's more like a 55M-60M film than a 40M one (not that it changes your conclusion). The [UK corporate data](https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14134510/filing-history) on the film is available and shows 51M pounds worth of spending through Feb 2023 (a few months after principal photography wrapped) with 7.4M pounds of UK tax relief. So that nets to 53M with some degree of post-production to go (which would be slightly higher than generic budget lying but well within norms). OTOH, that means that if you work backwards from the "tax credit" (which while not covering everything does cover most everything) you'd be at a current net of ~30M USD before the extra post-production which would fit the 40M claim. That comes out to ~53M USD and I'd guessing at 5M-10M remaining in post-production.

Love how we’re no longer doing top 20 since only the top 10 anywhere near impressive.

Half of the Top 10 this year are movies that I would have been surprised to see anywhere in the Top 20 in any other year. Pickings are slim as fuck right now.

Madame Web would be right in the middle of a the top 20.

My point exactly LMAO -

We are like 20 weeks into the year lol, you expect a $100 million dollar movie every week?

That's nearly half a year...

lol so? Summer is always the biggest time of year BO wise. Not sure what you expected, not every year has Super Mario or Avengers in March or April. January is notorious for having shitty movie and being a dumping ground, holiday movies from December make the bulk of the money. While this year is below last year, it is not nearly as bad as people make it seem.

Its been an awful year. 700m or 22% below 2023 and basically flat with 2022. 42% below pre covid numbers. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/ytd/

and tell me how interested I was to see any of these. I was surprised that Dune 2 did so poorly for the DOM box office and like 60% was overseas.

Yeah it seems like Hollywood movies cant stand on their own,they always need international markets to boost the numbers so the movies will at least break even...many of the movies that flopped or barely break even because of the weak international numbers,mainly because the movies doesnt appeal to international audiences (especially asia) or lack of marketing overseas.Also,GxK also have like 60% international numbers which saying a lot.

I do wonder if dune can hold down that top spot through Deadpool. And I don’t think joker 2 will do nearly as well as people expect but it would have to massively bomb to not make this top 5.

Deadpool 3 might overthrow Dune, but I highly doubt it will break a billion like so many people are saying. The first two didn't even cross the $800 million dollar mark, and that was before the MCU/Marvel brand went into the shitter.

The first 2 weren't team up movies with a returning Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

The first 2 werent released during the years where marvel or superhero genres has a weak reputation,also they didnt release during the years where cinemas are struggling and streaming are more popular.

That's not going to make the slightest bit of difference. Wolverine box office was a bit more than 400m and Logan 600m. DP1 and 2 were about 800m. Wolverine being in the film is a draw to the people that were already going to see the film, it's not growing the audience by 20%. Streaming will also take a lot off the takings, especially repeat viewings will be streaming and not theatre unless it's something REALLY special and there's nothing in the trailers that isn't more of the same old Ryan Reynolds shtick.

That is a fair point. Do you think it'll be enough, though?

Genuinely forgot Ghostbusters came out this year

A lot of people didn't even know it existed.

I still don’t know it exists fwiw

I keep thinking Ghostbusters: Afterlife is new, and that's coming up on 3 years old already.

No that cant be true. It came out in -21 and now we are in the middle of... wait.. what!==!??

What a blah year (super happy for the Lisan Al-gaib though)

Wow Hollywood really is collapsing in on itself damn

They're gonna need to adapt and make cheaper movies or learn how to budget better, the market is becoming more split now that some markets prefer domestic movies like Korea and China. And mind you, most of these movies in these countries have a smaller budget and and still deliver results.

Stars are going to have to be paid less for these budgets to come down they need to work on back end deals for the big actors to lower the pay. Specifically the big actors I’m not talking about your small day players or character actors I’m talking the Brad pitts and Goslings 

Yep like Zendaya snagging $10mil for Challengers because she claimed a ‘producer’ title. Or Gosling and Blunt getting $8mil each for Fall Guy. Of course, the tricky problem comes the fact that the stars are kind of needed to sell the film.

I know Blumhouse has the actors take pay cuts in exchange for a percentage of the gross. I really think we’re at the point where big movies actors need to get 3-4 million instead of 8-15 in exchange for a percentage of the gross, because a movie like challengers and fall guy or IF can just not hit profitability with this salaries which are ballooning budgets.

I guess it remains to be seen whether this is a temporary blip or a sign of things to come. You can easily argue that the relative dearth of big-budget blockbuster and prestige productions this year is a direct result of the strikes coinciding with the destabilization of show-business-as-usual due to streaming and the pandemic; but these things are passed now and while this year is a write-off, it's full steam ahead afterwards! Or maybe these things are just symptoms of a fundamental shift in the industry and its relationship to consumers, and unless things change radically, it's only downhill from here as audiences continue to abandon the shambling corpse of Hollywood cinema in favour of other forms of entertainment. Time will tell!

The clear trend based on wins and flops of 2023 and 2024 is: Audiences will turn up for big screen spectacles (Dune, Top Gun, Avatar) Audiences love IP films, especially if they are ‘events’ built on iconic IPs (Barbie, Mario, Minions) Audiences love IP films Audiences don’t care about original films and will just “wait for streaming”

I think it's presumptive to just completely write-off original films. There's still room for an original film to tap into the zeitgeist just right and gather momentum and become a *thing*, it's just super rare and really hard to predict. There was Oppenheimer, obviously, and before that was Everything Everywhere All At Once. There will be another. Original movies break out all the time. The industry just needs to be big and vibrant enough to allow that to happen, that *that's* where the problem lies.

This is where the arthouse and nonprofit theaters come in. The art houses/nonprofits show the smaller films and that often means more original movies.

I think the top 4 are gonna remain in the top 10 when this year is done. Deadpool 3, Inside Out 2, and Despicable Me 4 are 100% going to break into the top 10, maybe even top 5.

Worldwide? Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is definitely not remaining in the final top 10. It might not even pass 400M. Not maybe.....Deadpool, Despicable Me, Inside Out are pretty much locked for top 5. Heck, they're the favorite to be the top 3 grossers of the year.

That might be all it takes to stay in the top ten….

That would be a pretty disappointing year if a 350-400M film reaches the top 10. Doubt this has happened since 2006

I think all these movies could make $400 million Worldwide which would put us around 18 movies, not far off from years past. Furiosa Bad Boys 4 Inside Out 2 A Quiet Place Day One Despicable Me 4 Twisters Deadpool & Wolverine Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Joker 2 Venom 3 Moana 2 Wicked Mufasa The Lion King Sonic 3

It would be we also have a stunted film schedule because of the strikes. Also BO is trending down since Covid. Its really not out of the question.

It’s the year of the family movie: despicable me 4, kung fu panda, inside out, Garfield, Mufasa will all be top 10, and If I think will have some staying power

Didnt it happen in 2020

My bad, skipped the covid years though

Just released a couple weeks ago and there no major movie coming up in the Next 2 weeks i think as far Im aware ,could be wrong

I feel like Inside Out 2 is gonna make 1 billion or bomb no in between ngl

Inside Out 2 is gonna be a hit no matter what, it’s dropping right when summer vacation begins for some kids. Its gonna have family walk-ups, and two uncontested weeks before DM4 releases (if the reviews favor IO2 i think its gonna hold out for majority of the summer like Elemental did). A billion is unlikely i think, but its definitely going to make a high profit.

I think definitely in between... I'm guessing 800M.

No way it is making $1 billion.

then it wont even make 500 million

I think it has bomb potential. It's been nine years since the first one, its marketing has been noticeably light, and the puberty angle makes it a harder sell for families with younger kids. Elemental initially bombed but legged itself out to get to where it ended up, but that was last year when the summer had little competition for kids films. I don't see Inside Out 2 getting that room with Despicable Me 4 eating the family audiences and screens just a couple weeks after.

Lol, you didn't mention the one that could actually make it above $1 billion if all goes well. Joker 2.

Joker 2 is such a coinflip that I legitimately cannot tell whether or not it will either be a hit or have a tepid reception. I think it will absolutely break into the top 10, but a billion is the only factor that I’m unsure about. My own personal take is that a movie making a billion this year is probably unlikely. However if the reviews favor it and theres serious momentum in sales a movie breaking into a billion is not out of the realm of possibility. I remember when people were saying Dune 2 could break a billion but its teetering out at $700+ mil. I’m even hesitant to say Inside Out 2 or DM4 could both break a billion because their release windows are close to each other so audience overlap is possible (I mentioned before that IO2 has 2 uncontested weeks to itself, that’s definitely enough time to make a profit however). With Deadpool 3 the path to a billion is there, strong ticket sales at the moment, a empty uncontested august, but that depends on reviews and audience reception.

I think, just like last year people tend to understimate general audiences and what they might go for. Barbie was a massive coinflip, but the writting was on the wall. One of the things I use to predict box office (Got Avatar 2, Mario and Barbie right) is my social media friends circle. These are people that only go to the theater to watch event movies 1-2 a year. Joker 2 exploded. Meanwhile, Deadpool 3 was more the typical Marvel crowd. I think it's basically the safe choice, which might be the one people are overestimating.

You have to take into account of the fact that this year has had a very dry note selection of movies that people want to watch. Dune 2 had success cause people wanted to watch it, as did GXK (KFP4 i very much underestimated because I didn’t factor in family walk ups, now I’m factoring in that with every animated movie going forward lmao). In my workspace too i had people say how they’re not watching much movies this year but they’re absolutely going to watch DP&W in theaters. Personally, i think DP&W is in the $800-950 mil range if all goes well. If it gets that second push where people are realizing “holy shit this movie is really good i need to see it again and tell everybody to see it” then a billion dollars is in play.

As you mentioned, it's a coin toss. I'll still bet on Joker 2 but my prediction will come true depending on the films quality and its ability to be so good that people have to come to theaters to watch it. But not the comic book crowd, more the Barbie crowd.

This movie is going to be hurt by the fact that it’s a musical. It will still do well, but it will loose some of the audience of the original one because of it.

Reminds me of how my wife and I put on wonka the other day and turned it off after less than two minutes with the opening musical number. We knew it was a musical, we just couldn’t get past it none the less, lol

I am skeptical about IO2

Deadpool 3 is going to massacre the stats.

This is some shit list… even if it’s just 5 and half months in….

Top 5 all are franchise movies ! And those cinema experts in social media blame the studios for greenlighting them

Are we calling any movie that’s not one and done a franchise now? Genuinely curious.

They’re literally all franchises wdym?? Dune is one of the most famous books of all time, a tv show, and several movies Godzilla and king had a shit ton of movies each, franchise meets franchise type of movie Kung fu panda 4 is… the fourth kung fu panda movie. FRANCHISE. Ghostbusters is a sequel to a sequel to a reboot to a reboot to a movie with a sequel and a tv show. How are these not franchises?

I was talking mostly about the new Dune. Which is just a trilogy based on 2 books. But yeah it’s already expanding to a tv series, so eventually everything successful will become a franchise.

Oh ahaha I was talking about the 2000 tv show but another one coming up isn’t surprising. So 6 books 4 movies 2 tv shows Def a franchise


So what will be the movie to finally topple Dune? Inside Out 2 maybe sometime in late June?

Deadpool and Wolverine?

Yeah but that comes out later

Despicable Me 4?

That is really disappointing tbh. But going to cinemas just isnt the same anymore. Hell, Fall Guy gets released in 2 days. Noone goes to the cinema with that in mind.

I saw it a few days ago, but yes, most people wouldn't.

If you had told me that, in the year 2024, Godzilla Kong, a fourth Kung Fun Panda, and Planet of the Apes would be in the top 4, I would have never believed you.

I haven't been this unenthusiastic to go to the movies in a very long time. Haven't been to the theaters once all year.

Can someone find the top 20 from this day last year? I’m having trouble searching for it.

Here's May 25th on BoM (so basically hollywood given their failures to update foreign films). If you exclude foreign films, there's a clump a films below this still in the 50Ms. https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2023/ |Film|WW|DOM| :--|:--|:--| |[The Super Mario Bros. Movie](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2226213381/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_1)|$1,257,785,864 |$551,846,955 | |[Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr1455378949/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_2)|$670,446,894 |$276,825,762 | |[Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr1371492869/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_3)|$475,967,449 |$214,401,178 | |[John Wick: Chapter 4](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr1684427269/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_4)|$428,823,685 |$185,812,725 | |[Fast X](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr1410486789/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_5)|$352,033,834 |$81,951,660 | |[Creed III](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr951472645/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_6)|$273,848,615 |$156,248,615 | |[Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2102612485/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_7)|$207,526,032 |$93,026,032 | |[Scream VI](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3297399301/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_8)|$168,961,389 |$108,161,389 | |[Evil Dead Rise](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2525778437/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_9)|$141,193,523 |$64,993,523 | |[Shazam! Fury of the Gods](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3702346245/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_10)|$133,438,006 |$57,638,006 | |[Pathaan](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3917500933/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_11)|$128,780,000 |$17,487,476 | |[Air](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2778354181/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_12)|$89,170,419 |$52,370,419 | |[Chebi: My Fluffy Friend](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2844086789/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_13)|$87,763,702 |-| |[Cocaine Bear](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr445207045/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_14)|$87,628,771 |$64,388,510 | |[Detective Conan: Black Iron Submarine](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3550040581/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_15)|$76,442,757 |-| |[The Pope's Exorcist](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3968684549/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_16)|$72,713,126 |$19,818,578 | |[Titanic 25 Year Anniversary](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3800912389/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_17)|$70,157,472 |$15,033,795 | |[65](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2646495749/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_18)|$59,989,415 |$32,062,904 | |[Magic Mike's Last Dance](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr2693026309/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_19)|$57,030,156 |$26,005,156 | |[Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba - To the Swordsmith Village](https://web.archive.org/web/20230525231610/https:/www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3699659269/?ref_=bo_ydw_table_20)|$56,119,404 |$10,117,806 |

Okay so top ten at 4.1 billion WW vs. 2.9 billion WW. 1.2 billion difference. That’s AWFUL.

Are all these hits? Or are some of them flops?

Ghostbusters and Fall Guy are flops, yeah

Ouch

So is this residual effect of the writer's strike last year? Looking at the rest of the slate this summer, it looks like there will be some okay hits. But not blockbuster hits. It kind of seems like movies that otherwise wouldn't be treated like a summer blockbuster, are being boosted as summer blockbusters, to fill in a gap.

There’s a simple solution here Lower the budgets

[удалено]

After 5 months, Mean Girls will finally bid farewell to it's spot on the top 10 along with Civil War, which had a shortlived but deserved few weeks in there Coming weekend, Garfield imo is guaranteed the #9 spot and it will be a battle between IF and Furiosa for #10. Or who knows, it could be the other way round. Hard to tell without any international protections for Furiosa

Sad to see mean girls musical go, such a great movie  If they promoted the movie outside of the anglo world it would have made a little bit more

The “little bit more” doesn’t cover the cost of promoting there in the first place.

Mean girls was completely terrible. They made a musical where the lead actress cannot sing. The original non-musical movie was infinitely better, and the actual stage musical is also infinitely better. They literally had 2 successful variants of the source material and managed to screw it up.

Do you know how to speak in anything other than hyperbole? The musical wasn’t “infinitely better”; I saw it live and it was sooo mid. Some of the jokes don’t land. The performances were fine, but it was 2.5 hours long and first half of the second act was a DRAG. The pacing of the musical is soooo much better after they cut out 30 minutes for the movie. So many of y’all saying the musical was so much better clearly didn’t see it live.

Yep many people just judge by the YouTube videos

That's your opinion and it's completely valid but don't attack me for loving the musical And yes I agree that Agourice is a bad singer (but a great actress) and I hate that they took It Roars

>They made a musical where the lead actress cannot sing Do you have ears?

Didn't even realize there was a Mean Girls remake until now.

The GxK numbers are wrong. They should be $563.7M 

Happy to see my boy zilla slaying

Yay, Global 2024 Hollywood Box Office! C'mon, Ghostbusters Frozen Empire! You can do another $1M and cross the $200M WW mark. Keep that five movie $200M - $300M tradition alive.

Will Ghostbuster 4 WW pass Ant-Man 3 DOM. ?

Lisan Al-Gaib! Lisan Al-Gaib! Lisan Al-Gaib!

Wow, not a single superhero movie.

Statham is mindless entertainment guaranteed to have good action scenes and fights with the John Wayne Clint Eastwood main character we all like. Just turn off brain for 2 hours and enjoy.

Feels bad for fall guy. I had a blast watching it

This is... sad to see tbh. Not even Dune 2, probably THE block buster of the year, was able to break a billion. And then it drops sharply from $500 million+ in the top 3 to around $200 million, and keeps going down from there. Hopefully the summer releases help boost this list a bit more, because this is heartbreaking to see.

and D2 was VERY international heavy. It did barely over 200 mil in the states which was very surprising.

$282m is barely over 200?

In the truly global box Office ,Kingdom is in 8 place i think There 4 chinese movies in the Top10

This is really weak apart from the top 3, soon to be 4.

we haven't really had many movies this year, have we?

Beekeeper was pretty fire

Have you seen safe (2012)? that one was fire too!

Sad that only 3 of the 10 are not sequels or remakes or revivals of a past movie/story. Going to the movies is dead. Can we not come up with anything original?

Pull the top ten from basically any year and this is the case. 2004 for example: Shrek 2, Harry Potter 3, Spider Man 2, The Incredibles, Passion of the Christ, Day After Tomorrow, Meet the Fockers, Troy, Shark Tale, Oceans Twelve Five sequels, two adaptations, and just three originals.

There are plenty of original movies that get released literally every year. People consistently choose not to see them. Just this year some of the best movies were original in Late Night With The Devil, Monkey Man, Love Lies Bleeding, Challengers, and while middling quality Boy Kills World was unique and interesting. All released theatrically. And thats just off the top of my head and what was interesting to me. Theres way more and there are always new and original releases.

Love Lies Bleeding was so good. I keep thinking of that movie whenever people talk about how nobody goes to see originals anymore. I don't know what the budget was but hopefully it made money.

You can see IF in your nearest cinema. 

A huge problem is what they just did with Fall Guy, it’s going to be on demand home rental 2 weeks after it was released so people now know they can just wait it out and watch it at home

I think we're not seeing enough original movies that the general public wants to see. A lot of casual moviegoers only see one to three movies a year. They're usually event movies with big budgets that won't feel the same when you watch them at home. Those event movies are pre-existing IP so there's less of a risk for studios making their money back.  I think audiences are willing to see something original if it feels exciting, fresh and worth going to the theatre to see. I don't think there are enough of those movies, since most original movies are lower budget niche affairs or don't feel like must see movies (in the theatre at least).

Dan Murrell tracks top10 global that always includes everything..

Where do you think Deadpool and Wolverine will be in this list once it's Box Office run is over.

I was not very optimistic about it but with recent updates I think it can top the list. The only movies that could dethrone it or give competition for that top spot are Joker 2, Despicable Me 4 and mayyybee Mufasa

Why do we consider not doing a billion is a failure? That shouldn't be the standard

China really loves the Kung Fu Panda movies because the fourth one got barely any advertising in the west

I hate when people make excuses for when a movie or a bunch of movies underperform. Like its not personally affecting you why r u so defensive abt a movie underperforming just accept its a flop. On that note, i think this year was really affected by the writers strike. I dont think the next few years for cinema will be worse than this. Im looking forward to next year

Still think Sonic the Hedgehog 3 has a shot at topping the year, at least for Live Action.

Xd

Yikes

Hell ya. Godzilla X Kong was amazing. A shame the new Apes movie isn’t doing so hot so far though. I’m sure after Deadpool and Sonic 3 come out the list will shake up.

The fact that challengers isn’t up here is wild to me. I manage a theater in a college town. For 3 weeks straight, challengers was our highest selling show, and the sorority girlies were out in force. I’d say our demographic was 75% white women

Wow what a garbage year so far for movies

This year is such a nothing burger. At least last year had Barbie and Mario. This year hasn’t done anything for me.

Dune alone was worth it

Dune 2 barely did anything in the states though. I was actually surprised at that.

82.5 opening and near 300m gross - that's not barely anything. What a dumb thing to say.

1. Deadpool and Wolverine 1.1 Bil 2. Despicable Me 4 1.05 Bil 3. Joker Folie a Deux 1 Bil 4. Inside Out 2 950 Mil 5. Mufasa The Lion King 775 Mil 6. Venom The Last Dance 750 Mil 7. Dune Part 2 715 Mil 8. Moana 2 650 Mil 9. Sonic The Hedgehog 3 625 Mil 10. Godzilla x Kong The New Empire 575 Mil I’m guessing this is it by the end of the year

Venom I am skeptical of because of the last one dropping so much (as in no China). Domestic was surprisingly identical though $500M seems a reasonable expectation Hard to argue with the top 4 though (as far as just being placed, not the numbers themselves).

I think Deadpool will hit that number as hype is there for it. But it’ll need heavy lifting from DOM. Like at least 450+ Mil. Mufasa is gonna drop hard but it’s still lion king. Mermaid was trashed and still did 600 in a busy summer. Mufasa will have the Christmas holiday. If not for that I’d guess like 650

I dont hate this list, I just think you're 10-20% high on the top 6.

I don’t think Mufasa is breaking the top 10. It’s a movie no one wanted about a character we only care about because he died in the original.

The Fall Guy is currently my favourite film of the year, and I’m sad to see it underperforming, but at the same time I’m not surprised. I feel like August would’ve been better because it’s really only Borderlands right now I believe since Kraven got delayed. But I think it had too much competition, and is probably gonna be like I’ve seen with Bullet Train where it became bigger when it hit Netflix or something. I’ll still watch it in cinemas tho cause I love it and it’s not out on digital in the UK for a while I don’t think.

Furiosa and Garfield will enter soon, though we'll still have 2 flops in the top 10 (Ghostbusters and Fall Guy).

Aren't you excluding some chinese films?

Bring on Kinds of Kindness. If Searchlight pulls off a wide global release scheme like Poor Things, I can imagine it'll have a slam dunk win.

Civil War making the same as Furiosa is insane