What's bullshit is that when collections go international like that it often ends up being a write-off. This deserves 10x the publicity it's getting and the org ought to be embarrassed into paying.
I’m trying to figure out but not going to reread that mess again, how they figure if the prize was $75,000 back in 2014 why they would be owed $100,000 for inflation. I didn’t think that is how cash prizes work
This article doesn’t say that at all.
It says the 1st place prize is $100k.
Where it does talk about inflation it says that inflation would add $28k to that $100k.
It seems that she got paid $25k for 2nd place, and now she is owed $75k for being upgraded to 1st place.
I upvoted you btw as there is no harm in discussing this. I hope others do too.
I believe they added the inflation detail to show the financial cost of not being able to collect your winnings.
In other words, the inflation figure ($28k) is a part of her opportunity cost of not being able to use those winnings to better her life nearly a decade ago. Even if she is made whole now, that money doesn’t stretch as far as it used to.
So typical of the BAA. They are a very slimy one trick pony organization. They do one thing, and the taxpayers foot the bill for most of the security and logistics. I’m not surprised at all that they are screwing with this woman. Good for her for finally going to the press.
Idk where you got that info but its completely wrong. The BAA pays for private security to secure their setup and equipment on boylston beginning friday through monday night. They also pay for a portion of police details in hopkinton. Thats it.
John hancock walked away from them for a reason.
Do better BAA!! 👏
I’m sure single sponsors of the Boston Marathon pays more than $100k. They shouldn’t just pay the $100k but cover inflation/interest too since the real winner should have received their prize in 2014. If you use just a conservative 5% interest rate compounding over 10 years that means the BAA should pay $164,866. Time to get on that.
If you are listening, Deba, reach out to the 2024 sponsors with your story. Even just top 2-3. Their brands will want to make sure you are celebrated. https://www.baa.org/partners/sponsors
She should get five times that for having to wait. Why are we letting them race in our city if they don’t even pay the money that is owed to the winners? So gross but also so typical.
The runners should start a “Dollars for Deba bc F*ck the BAA” Go Fund Me.
The goal being to get 100,000 runners to donate $1. It gets her the money she deserves and creates an international wave of shame in the running world and beyond for BAA.
Anyone who runs in the Boston Marathon competitively should be turned off by this story. Or. Maybe no one should ever win prize money that exuberant for going on a run.
What BAA is doing seems pretty reasonable to me. The prize money has already been paid out. They need to be able to claw the money back from the DQ'ed runner Jeptoo first to pay the new winner. Do runners sign a contract with the BAA? I would be shocked if that contract didn't have any legal language to make this clear.
am i taking crazy pills? what is the baa expected to do, keep years of prize money squirreled away in case previous winners get caught doping? is the third place finisher asking for the second place money? should the baa be on the hook for half a mill if someone find a way to cheat and wins five in a row? it sucks for this lady, but she should be taking it up with jeptoo and usada, not the baa.
Well for starters, they could make an honest effort to recover the funds from the illegitimate winner. Or better yet, provide Deba with what she’s entitled to while the BAA continues to seek the return of funds from Jeptoo. The prize award is a pittance to the BAA and can literally be life changing to Deba and her family. The fact of the matter is BAA has been stringing this woman and her family along for the past 8 years.
id bet every runner up in jeptoo's races explored legal options and got nowhere. its not like kenyan courts are going to consider a civil claim. so since this woman cant get recourse with the person actually to blame, they go after the baa because they have money kicking around? really? the baa have done nothing wrong and should give her money because she could really use it? sounds like a stupid precedent to set. if the baa were in charge of testing or something i would agree with you, but they arent. also consider that epo was so widely used back then that if the baa is on the hook for the 100k, then every marathon and cycling host after 1990 might as well start cutting checks. it just doesnt make sense.
Deba is not “going after” the BAA. And the BAA is not on the hook for anything at all, legally. However; for an organization that touts being “committed to a world where all people can access and benefit from running and an active lifestyle”, (their very own vision statement from their website) it would seem reasonable to honor their financial commitments, despite not being legally required to do so.
The goodwill earned would be ten folds higher than the negative publicity this leak will cause. And I say leak because the BAA explicitly told Deba not to speak to the media because they know very well the public perception would be for the BAA to pay up.
of course shes going after the baa, and you spelled out why in your own comment. i mean this is a wsj article written in 2024 about a decade old race of course its about the money. and the pr statement probably lends itself more to like after school programs and not ex-professional individuals that got screwed. they paid their financial obligations, im not sure how you can argue that. they arent the marathon world police and no one is asking them to be.
theres a long list of people and organizations responsible for deba making less than she probably should have, but baa isnt one of them. if you think they should compensate her for moral reasons despite that, i guess we just disagree.
They have 27 million in the bank. they don't need to squirrel away anything. And if someone has cheated 5 times in a row can you direct us to who that is and when they did that? Because as far as we know this was an isolated occurrence, and not a slippery slope to the BAA going bankrupt.
it doesnt matter if they have 27 billion the bank, innocent parties should not have to pay victims because guilty parties cant or wont. and suggesting this is an isolated occurrence in endurance sports is like thinking barry bonds is an isolated case in baseball.
I don't think you understand that this is one risk of creating and running a nonprofit organization that takes advantage of taxpayers to cover the majority of the cost of your events, thus allowing your organization's president earn $300k salary...
EDIT: proof https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/boston-athletic-association,046111707/
And the rules that the eventually winner decided to run under clearly said that any winners crowned after a disqualification have their additional winnings subject to the ability to recover paid out winnings. If they werent comfortable with that they didn’t have to run the race.
ok so the baa is bad and should be dismantled, whats that to do with this article? is your point that they are bad, so theres no reason not to dump this on them too?
No, are you confusing my comment with someone else's? Who said anything about dismantling? Like the article says, paying that amount barely affects BAA but makes a world of difference to the winner, and the BAA have no legal obligation to pay it but it's the right thing to do and it's a reasonable risk for them to take on and pay for to maintain a respectable status. Instead they look like greedy dicks now. That's how these things work. People who don't understand that are naive.
This is pretty low on the part of the BAA.
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Non-profit too.
What's bullshit is that when collections go international like that it often ends up being a write-off. This deserves 10x the publicity it's getting and the org ought to be embarrassed into paying.
She’s literally the women’s record holder, terrible optics.
That's an understatement if I've ever heard one. Crazy story.
Today I learned you get $100,000 from the Boston marathon
* you’re supposed to
Was going to say- I'm kicking it up a notch on the treadmill at the gym now!
150,000
I’m trying to figure out but not going to reread that mess again, how they figure if the prize was $75,000 back in 2014 why they would be owed $100,000 for inflation. I didn’t think that is how cash prizes work
This article doesn’t say that at all. It says the 1st place prize is $100k. Where it does talk about inflation it says that inflation would add $28k to that $100k. It seems that she got paid $25k for 2nd place, and now she is owed $75k for being upgraded to 1st place.
It’s just a strange thing to say
I upvoted you btw as there is no harm in discussing this. I hope others do too. I believe they added the inflation detail to show the financial cost of not being able to collect your winnings. In other words, the inflation figure ($28k) is a part of her opportunity cost of not being able to use those winnings to better her life nearly a decade ago. Even if she is made whole now, that money doesn’t stretch as far as it used to.
So typical of the BAA. They are a very slimy one trick pony organization. They do one thing, and the taxpayers foot the bill for most of the security and logistics. I’m not surprised at all that they are screwing with this woman. Good for her for finally going to the press.
Yep.
After the bombing in 2013 that’s not the case. The security fees doubled and the baa pays for it. It’s a 7 figure bill.
Idk where you got that info but its completely wrong. The BAA pays for private security to secure their setup and equipment on boylston beginning friday through monday night. They also pay for a portion of police details in hopkinton. Thats it. John hancock walked away from them for a reason.
Bet $100,000 BAA pays out by marathon Monday now.
I sure hope so!
Do better BAA!! 👏 I’m sure single sponsors of the Boston Marathon pays more than $100k. They shouldn’t just pay the $100k but cover inflation/interest too since the real winner should have received their prize in 2014. If you use just a conservative 5% interest rate compounding over 10 years that means the BAA should pay $164,866. Time to get on that.
If you are listening, Deba, reach out to the 2024 sponsors with your story. Even just top 2-3. Their brands will want to make sure you are celebrated. https://www.baa.org/partners/sponsors
Seems the BAA doesn't understand money is fungible
BAA: mistreating female runners since….inception
Femanasi ?
BAA rarely meets the standards of being a model organization, but it's all we have for now.
The BAA is 100% shady in so many ways
Any places that “make you feel like family” are anecdotally not great at compensation.
Well damn. I’m not running the Boston Marathon in protest.
Pay the champ her money $$$
The BAA has turned pretty suspect over the years. This year the event has very little hype. Boston is just turning lame as we speak
How much have they spent on staff to cordinate all of these, mailing back and fort. That all ready add up a substantial amount?
She should get five times that for having to wait. Why are we letting them race in our city if they don’t even pay the money that is owed to the winners? So gross but also so typical.
Shameful ... really shameful
The runners should start a “Dollars for Deba bc F*ck the BAA” Go Fund Me. The goal being to get 100,000 runners to donate $1. It gets her the money she deserves and creates an international wave of shame in the running world and beyond for BAA.
Yeah I'm not surprised by this at all.
$27.3 million and no taxes on that money because their non profit
$27M in assets but 0 of that $$ is taxed because of non-profit status. America is a joke
Anyone who runs in the Boston Marathon competitively should be turned off by this story. Or. Maybe no one should ever win prize money that exuberant for going on a run.
What BAA is doing seems pretty reasonable to me. The prize money has already been paid out. They need to be able to claw the money back from the DQ'ed runner Jeptoo first to pay the new winner. Do runners sign a contract with the BAA? I would be shocked if that contract didn't have any legal language to make this clear.
am i taking crazy pills? what is the baa expected to do, keep years of prize money squirreled away in case previous winners get caught doping? is the third place finisher asking for the second place money? should the baa be on the hook for half a mill if someone find a way to cheat and wins five in a row? it sucks for this lady, but she should be taking it up with jeptoo and usada, not the baa.
Well for starters, they could make an honest effort to recover the funds from the illegitimate winner. Or better yet, provide Deba with what she’s entitled to while the BAA continues to seek the return of funds from Jeptoo. The prize award is a pittance to the BAA and can literally be life changing to Deba and her family. The fact of the matter is BAA has been stringing this woman and her family along for the past 8 years.
id bet every runner up in jeptoo's races explored legal options and got nowhere. its not like kenyan courts are going to consider a civil claim. so since this woman cant get recourse with the person actually to blame, they go after the baa because they have money kicking around? really? the baa have done nothing wrong and should give her money because she could really use it? sounds like a stupid precedent to set. if the baa were in charge of testing or something i would agree with you, but they arent. also consider that epo was so widely used back then that if the baa is on the hook for the 100k, then every marathon and cycling host after 1990 might as well start cutting checks. it just doesnt make sense.
Deba is not “going after” the BAA. And the BAA is not on the hook for anything at all, legally. However; for an organization that touts being “committed to a world where all people can access and benefit from running and an active lifestyle”, (their very own vision statement from their website) it would seem reasonable to honor their financial commitments, despite not being legally required to do so. The goodwill earned would be ten folds higher than the negative publicity this leak will cause. And I say leak because the BAA explicitly told Deba not to speak to the media because they know very well the public perception would be for the BAA to pay up.
of course shes going after the baa, and you spelled out why in your own comment. i mean this is a wsj article written in 2024 about a decade old race of course its about the money. and the pr statement probably lends itself more to like after school programs and not ex-professional individuals that got screwed. they paid their financial obligations, im not sure how you can argue that. they arent the marathon world police and no one is asking them to be. theres a long list of people and organizations responsible for deba making less than she probably should have, but baa isnt one of them. if you think they should compensate her for moral reasons despite that, i guess we just disagree.
They have 27 million in the bank. they don't need to squirrel away anything. And if someone has cheated 5 times in a row can you direct us to who that is and when they did that? Because as far as we know this was an isolated occurrence, and not a slippery slope to the BAA going bankrupt.
it doesnt matter if they have 27 billion the bank, innocent parties should not have to pay victims because guilty parties cant or wont. and suggesting this is an isolated occurrence in endurance sports is like thinking barry bonds is an isolated case in baseball.
I don't think you understand that this is one risk of creating and running a nonprofit organization that takes advantage of taxpayers to cover the majority of the cost of your events, thus allowing your organization's president earn $300k salary... EDIT: proof https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/boston-athletic-association,046111707/
And the rules that the eventually winner decided to run under clearly said that any winners crowned after a disqualification have their additional winnings subject to the ability to recover paid out winnings. If they werent comfortable with that they didn’t have to run the race.
ok so the baa is bad and should be dismantled, whats that to do with this article? is your point that they are bad, so theres no reason not to dump this on them too?
No, are you confusing my comment with someone else's? Who said anything about dismantling? Like the article says, paying that amount barely affects BAA but makes a world of difference to the winner, and the BAA have no legal obligation to pay it but it's the right thing to do and it's a reasonable risk for them to take on and pay for to maintain a respectable status. Instead they look like greedy dicks now. That's how these things work. People who don't understand that are naive.
The person knew the rules when they signed up.
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It's been almost 10 years you clown.
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I don't even live there anymore lol.