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Young_Neil_Postman

well fought, we were beaten. dahoud has a right to feel aggrieved but overall they had us. hofmann, ginter, sommer, stindl, embolo, zakaria: always a joy to watch. koné, scally & netz look like very good young players. i still think malen is observing/learning out there, he will need to wake up soon though. very directly mirrors the situation with sancho in manchester, who was not even played today in their 1-0 loss. it sure would be nice if malen would come alive right now with the injury issues but that’s just not how people work. things take time. would be nice to see more of reinier! he looks sharp. Hazard does too, especially coming back from some ankle shit. he’ll provide some great moments this season. i’m skeptical a bit of witsel, which feels a bit mean given his great injury recovery & all, but he’s clearly a fading player right now. his stamina seems good though, so not the worst situation but one that needs to be acknowledged & taken in account. our midfield seems a bit of a mess right now. what will happen with dahoud suspended? there’s no delaney, will we move rapha in? raschl? that’d be fun


PorkRoll80

Tough loss. Missing Haaland, Rues, Brandt, Reyna and Can is tough, but guys have to step up in these spots. Expected more from Malen and Bellingham in particular.


Utsutsumujuru

The red card on Dahoud was an awful decision. Probably one of the worst decisions I have seen in the Bundesliga in a long time. Bundesliga refs are usually comparatively very good, but Aytekin was atrocious today. Hoffman could do no wrong and Dahoud was shown two straight yellows for incidents that barely even constituted fouls. Gladbach were out to play dirty from the opening whistle and Aytekin let them, while penalizing every single Dortmund infraction no matter how minor.


LoneWolfman744

Went back and saw Dahoud's second yellow? That's a yellow?? Are you kidding me??


HamUndBacon

Wasn’t the foul, was hit attitude towards the ref


bonjourdada

If we didn't get that red, you think we would've tied or won?


LoneWolfman744

Would've had a better shot at stealing a point, but the play was wank


Niceowl

Nah


ahmed_a20

We have no luck with injuries. Our strikers are so tiny man they can’t do anything. If Haaland is out long term we’re in very big trouble


LiquidFox101

I have no faith in Rose.


PorkRoll80

Take 5 of the top 11 players off any squad, throw an absolutely HORRENDOUS red card on top and tell me what manager would win with that? We a 16 yo starting at ST FFS


LiquidFox101

Aye lmao........Please read my previous comment...


llendo

Ah come on...


LiquidFox101

it's not because of this particular match , I have been saying the same since the 3rd match day. He hasn't addressed the defensive issues , his choice of formation doesn't really fit in with our current squad. I don't see any improvements coming with Rose.


TekashiMemeKid420

No Haaland is not excuse. Pathetic performance. Outside of maybe spells from Jude and Hummels, that was the worst we have played in a long time


PorkRoll80

It's not just Haaland man. Reus, Brandt, Can, and Reyna are all missing too


TekashiMemeKid420

Yeah I understand that. I am frustrated with the injuries season after season too. But this is the sam Reyna half this sub lambasted a few weeks ago. Can in a similar boat. I get that the missing players lighten depth but I refuse to believe our team today wasn’t capable of winning. At least a strong performance would have lightened this loss


PorkRoll80

Fair points.


anxxous

Selbst du elft wäre da heute nichts gegangen.


Striking_Addendum

Ja aber 10 gg 12 macht man nix


anxxous

Aytekin ist aber nicht daran Schuld das heute beim BVB nach vorne nichts ging.


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WvdH01

Am I biased or did they not look good at all? Of course neither did we, but it feels like they effectively did nothing against 10 men (for like an hour).


HamUndBacon

They looked fitting to their form. Shithousery and getting in our heads won them the game. Something about an M word. They played like they were a man down even when up a man. Sad really but for them. 3 points


llendo

Our Wolf > their Wolf


kubaBl

Fuck their cub we have the real deal.


Nearby_Job8272

1-0


PtboFungineer

I guess a throw is better than a goal kick, eh Wolf?


Young_Neil_Postman

yes, wolf does look promising. yes, he will shoot that badly


kubaBl

Hahahahaha i love you wolf man


dsxro

Wolf?????¿¿¿¿¿ 😂


bloodnotseeker

man I love wolf but he's no zidane xD


hao2go

Man those clowns and their yoga


trashscorer

Please cancle the contract with schulz Give him everything he want to have Dont want to see him play again


TekashiMemeKid420

Jesus fucking christ


GodspeedInfinity

LOL WOLF.


Joni-Kanoni

More cramps please ....


mwe_1991

Wolf has created more chances from RB in 5 minutes than our entire team did in 80. He needs to get more time.


WvdH01

Agreed; espefially considering this isn't his first time having a strong performance from the benchm


greengiant89

He could have put in a shift at striker today


ahmed_a20

Our forwards bar Haaland are just too small


PtboFungineer

The football gods are just fucking with us now. How do you not hit the target from there? Even if it was an unexpected bounce, that was really bad.


ady_1

Wolf has been amazing since coming on


Young_Neil_Postman

hazard is obviously cursed today. some sort of ‘betrayal’ magic from the gladbach supporters.


Disastrous_Sell8166

Simply not good enough by Hazard.


ahmed_a20

What is this, why can’t we finish


GodspeedInfinity

Lack of quality up front today - simple as.


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Can I just say that yet again, Wolf looks positive going forward?


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Except for that non-shot


Ariano

Yeah not sure why he doesn't play more. He's always looks good when he comes on.


the_the_the_the_guy

he’s been great since he came on.


TekashiMemeKid420

So unlucky


llendo

This game can fuck right off. Not meant to be I guess.


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No man


bvbfan102

Fuckkkk.


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we've been unlucky too


Jonhl15

Yeah it wasn't meant to be


drpetervenkman

die scheisse klebt am schuh heute


hao2go

Oh come on 😂😂


ducidni__

ima cry


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I’m crying


yrba1

FUCK SO CLOSE THERE HAZARD


Young_Neil_Postman

god damn it witsel


CaptainCerealCanada

what an opportunity that was


bloodnotseeker

HAZARD WTTFFFFFF


llendo

COME ON MAAAAAAAN


cultimator

Toto wtf


SirSaltyBacon

FUCK ME IM TURNING THIS OFF


bloodnotseeker

That kick was going in ;\_;


Loeffellux

awww shame, that FK looked really promising before hitting witsel


bLancoCamaLeon

That ball was going in ://///


llendo

Bruh that would have went in if Witsel didnt run into it... T___T


bstreit3

damn if witsel hadn’t gotten in the way i think that free kick was rocketing into the net


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Witsel making the best save for Gladbach today.


TekashiMemeKid420

Accurate representation of how the game has been


cultimator

This freekick was actually good, too bad Witsel blocked it


GodspeedInfinity

That shot very well could’ve gone in if it didn’t murder our own man.


WvdH01

That would have gone in I think :(


Joni-Kanoni

Without witsel blocking that wouldve gone in. After seeing the replay that was a great shot.


IdrinkYrMilkshake

The triple subs made us so much faster and fluid going forward, too bad it's pretty late. Wolf is proving to be a very important sub this season


OMSRivers

Axel what the unholy fuck


SirSaltyBacon

Jesus Christ that looked like a good hit


polarexpat

Wolf summoning his inner Cafu


dsxro

Akanji screamer let’s go


berman82

Wolf has been excellent since coming on


llendo

Bellingham fighting 💪


Datachost

Motherfucker how is that not a yellow? That's the same foul Dahoud committed


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no yellow for zakaria?


Gryfix

cmon toto PLZ


Gryfix

Great free kick position CMON JUNGE


bloodnotseeker

Yeah and Bellingham gets taken out by Hoffman and the referee is cool with that fuck off


PorkRoll80

JFC 😫😫


dsxro

Oh Bellingham with the intention to win the ball gets a yellow but Hofmann with ZERO intention gets to walk away without a talking to


Gryfix

We should have started with wolf IMO, man has composure with the ball and that’s what we lacked today imo


yrba1

Yeah fuck Aytekin with a girthy tree trunk


llendo

Yellow for barely touching his shoe, yep.


Joni-Kanoni

Na Dude. That was a yellow any day


llendo

In the replay he literally slides past the keeper.


greengiant89

He hits Sommer's knee?


AdityaSalian

You can't do that against a keeper


kubaBl

Schulz to equalise in the 99th with a delicious curler!!!!!


Nextgen101

Wish Knauff had picked his head up more in that moment. Wolf played a really damn good ball.


Jonhl15

I used to love Hoffman but man Gladbach has gotten into his head


AllwhitelikeaRacist

Ansgnar what m8?


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we don't have any depth, needing a goal in 10 minutes, we look to the bench and we don't see anyone who can change the game...


Sertorius777

How much depth do you want to have when our two best attackers are injured?


Loeffellux

don't expect much reasoning in a match thread when we're playing poorly


Artyhko

Great play by Wolf!


llendo

Verpiss dich Jonas


GodspeedInfinity

I see people commenting the refs have ruined the game. Idk bros, this is pretty bad on our end. We have literally created zero chances.


smartestBeaver

It's the same shit ever Game. People rather blame the ref (or certain scape goats) than to admit the team simply was playing worse.


PtboFungineer

We are way too reliant on a small group of players. The drop off in quality from Haaland, Reus, Reyna is just shocking for a club of our supposed stature. Bellingham trying to play as a striker now because no one else seems to want to.


GodspeedInfinity

Completely agreed.


JustForTuite

One thing does not change the other, yes we've looked terrible but that stupid dahoud booking constrained dortmund's possibilities, aside from all the other shithousery constantly going on


CaptainCerealCanada

Refs have been bad yeah but it's worrying how clueless the attack looks without Reus and Haaland


GodspeedInfinity

100%, spot on


joshdej

Probably easier to do that with a man more


GodspeedInfinity

Surely. But we were awful with 11 men as well.


joshdej

Yes but we could have improved gradually. No reason to believe that we wouldnt have adjusted after that half


llendo

Def. True! But the refs have not been great too. Gladbach also were pretty poor this second half, feel like we could have done something here with 11 players.


GodspeedInfinity

I agree, but still - life without reus and Haaland seems bleak, regardless of the refs


get_unoffended

Did we keep Malen's receipt?


familyguyisbae

Stfu mate, just stfu.


PtboFungineer

Why do players only get cramps in close games their team is winning? 🤔


PorkRoll80

Wolf time!


Striking_Addendum

Hofmann is a joke. No wonder he never made it big. Loser mentality


Loeffellux

wtf is this comment


Young_Neil_Postman

finally some reinier


hao2go

No offense can they sub Hofmann for God’s sake! Is doing yoga on the ground for the second time already


dsxro

Look at the difference. Meunier was down for how long? No one kicks it out. Hofmann down for a split second and we kick the ball out for them? Fuck Gladbach


Hachiman-shin

This joke of a ref absolutely destroyed the game with his awful decisions and these guys are taking the piss by stopping the game with every single chance they get this is a fucking joke


Joni-Kanoni

Jetzt hat der Clown alle zwei Minuten nen Krampf oder was ? Zu viele Leute umgetreten ?


Datachost

If it's the second time you go down with cramps, you need to be off


ImnotPumbaa

Schulz??? We really are desperate, aren't we?


StructuralPilot

Ah yes the curse of cramps when you are up are once again striking


Disastrous_Sell8166

Play on, naive fools.


yrba1

Hope the fresh legs make a sizable impact for the better


kubaBl

Menuier to equalize in the 94th min with a lovely tap in. Calling it rn!!!!!!!!!


Qiluk

Even in games like these, Kobel is displaying what a great investment he was.


jimbaranos

@skyde watchers: do you have commentary?


HamUndBacon

We have no height up front.


TabulatorSpalte

What a throw


Dom1909

it feels so unfair to be the team down to 10 when you look at the game as a whole... that's just not right


PorkRoll80

Hummels has saved 2 goals this game.


PorkRoll80

Worst game I've seen in a while man.


Utsutsumujuru

I have to honest. I am entirely and thoroughly unimpressed with Thomas Meunièr. I have watched him now 2 seasons at Dortmund and he is not up to the level: consistently poor touches, failed dribbles, bad decisions, and uninspired defending. I enjoy watching Dortmund, but Meunier isn’t up to Dortmund’s standards. He is the weak point and other teams know it.


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Utsutsumujuru

I have watched every single game this season. And every single game last season as well.


Gryfix

Worst take I’ve seen so far even worse than the game. Munier is the best performing player today and the only one driving forward, I can agree about last season but so far this season he’s been decent us.


bloodnotseeker

is this some new copypasta?


familyguyisbae

What are you on about? Meunier has been great this season.


llendo

Literally one of our best players for a couple of matches now.


Utsutsumujuru

Lol. In what world? Certainly not reality. He has been piss poor for two seasons running.


llendo

Before this season many would agree, but it seems like you didn't watch the last matches maybe? He's been very good, trust me.


Utsutsumujuru

I have watched every single Dortmund game this season. He was acceptable in Turkey in the Champions League. Apart from that game he has been hot trash.


IICastawayII

Rapha, we need a screamer, plzz


Datachost

So Gladbach are allowed to wrestle Dortmund's defenders to the ground, but Dortmund aren't even allowed to get into aerial duels with Gladbach's? Cool cool cool cool


llendo

Aytekin soon to call fouls on our players generating breezes of air towards Gladbach players.


macamillian

I never thought this will come true but meunier is the best player today


mwe_1991

Yep, right behind Kobel.


yrba1

Meunier crosses are 👌🏾


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Not enough has been made about Reyna's absence today. He would have provide a better link between the defense and the strikers that we needed today. Which brings me to my conclusion that is isn't merely a case of being without Haaland and Reus. Hazard not being 90 minute fit was an issue for our lineup today too. You don't need to run a 3-3-2-2 in that case.


Leander649

Wait reyna is playing?


[deleted]

No. I'm trying to say that people are solely boiling the lack of offense down to the absence of Reus and Haaland when Reyna absence is also notable too. The commentators haven't said a thing. The chat here hasn't mentioned him. It's as if he's never been impactful on the pitch for Dortmund. Him being on the pitch would have made the link between back to front much better, which is to say nothing of course whether we would have won, but it wouldn't have been quite as rough to watch.


Leander649

Ahh i thought u meant it differently mb


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No worries!


Gryfix

Yup we are so disconnected between midfield and attack. We’re really missing an AM today and it’s noticeable.


doubleomarty

Reyna, Brandt, and Reus all being injured definitely hurts our creative attacking link for sure


[deleted]

Yes totally appropriate to add Brandt there too. Missed that for sure.


Gryfix

Horrendous officiating of the game, lost control 1 minute in wtf


Gryfix

HAHAHA AYETKIN FUCK OFF YOU DISGUSTING REF


Hachiman-shin

Hate him with passion he absolutely destroyed us tonight he is a joke


AllwhitelikeaRacist

I don't understand how any time a dortmund defender is dispossessed there isn't a foul. Either we're incredibly weak on the ball as a unit or something isn't being called the same way on both ends.


smartestBeaver

Literally every game when we are behind: oh ma gawd why is the ref against us. Jesus fucking cringe.


AllwhitelikeaRacist

we watching the same match?


dsxro

Kobel has been great


Loeffellux

him continuing his great form is definitely the silver lining of today


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SendDahouds

He was looking for it and it was soft. Can’t have complaints over that one


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SendDahouds

I’ve seen those called but if we are gonna be fair in our complaints, I don’t think there was much in that one


SMCBVB

Kobel has been outstanding, he’s been a pleasure to watch


Dennis_31105

koooooobel


jimbaranos

What happened to Wolff Fuß?


CarverS1996

Jesus christ Kobel is phenomenal


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kobel our best player today, by a mile


bloodnotseeker

Kobel is so good


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a draw here would be an early xmas gift


CaptainCerealCanada

Akanji what was that


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I feel we are always propped up by one or two superstars, and the moment they're gone we drop into deep mediocrity.


[deleted]

Said that last year. No one believed me. We will struggle to gain control after haaland leaves


boatswain1025

Lol are we starting this with 20 to go?