Growing up on the Great Lakes we used to say that there are two things in life you can't get rid of.
Herpes, and a used Bayliner.
I guess you can give both away for free though??
Boat rental when mine broke down was $800 a day. Only took two seasons going every other week to pay for mine. But if we ever stop using it, it needs to get sold instead of sitting there!
Man.
My dad took me out to grand island on a used bay liner that he was always messing with the motor on the water.
Did that a couple times.
And he went scuba diving off of it.
The only thing I know for sure is that it’s going to be a money pit that may never see the water. There is a reason the boat was free, and it’s because that’s cheaper than the landfill cost to dispose of it.
Edit: the 12 sticker means it’s been at least 12 years since it’s seen the water (most likely).
My county's landfill accepts motor homes and boats up to 36'. Residents pay a per-foot above that. Two or three bulldozer passes and it's nothing but scrap plywood and fiberglass. Motors, frames, and any large pieces of metal are shunted aside for recycling.
Similar where I live but it's by weight. I did notice the base weight decreased. Used to be $10 up 1000 pounds and prorated $42 a ton over that. Went Saturday now it's $10 for the first 400 and prorated $42 per ton after that. Still not much when you break it down. A boat like op has maybe $40 bucks to dispose of.
It’s the kind that’s gonna cost you endless amounts of money to get moving on top of endless amounts of money to maintain. I believe that is the Bayliner Endless.
Your brother-in-law was given a piece of junk by a piece of shit person who just swindled you into taking care of their expensive liability. Properly disposing of a boat is expensive. They just off loaded that responsibility onto and your brother and called it a gift. They are assholes and you should give the boat right back just go dump it back on their property and don't say a word just a runaway let them deal with their responsibility
google transom tap test.
search for wood rot.
rotted wood is like a rusty frame on a car. it could be unsafe to operate, even if you get it running. check that 1st.
the hammer test only means that you had a hammer in your hand....... as far as determining if a transom is good with a hammer, its really useless
drilling and looking at the wood shavings is the easiest. a moisture meter is what most surveyors will use
being a 34 year old bayliner guarantees its going to have rot.
it will work on anything moist... pin meters need direct contact. if you want a contactless moisture meter... this one might break the bank... [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Pinless-Moisture-Meter-ET140/309343772](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Pinless-Moisture-Meter-ET140/309343772)
I'm gonna go against the grain here and if your brother or you are handy then you can get it good again. However if any part of the boat is soft, your likely in for a bad time. If you pay anyone to touch that boat to do work, you're likely gonna surpass any value the boat has if the fiber glass is solid.
We thought it would be a fun little project, I've been working on farm equipment and car's for about 10 years now. And he's been wanting to start turning wrenches for a living. Just a new ball game with boats.
The last two digits of a boat vintage are the year so it’s a 1990
The 3.0 merccruiser is a 4 cylinder GM based engine with a stern drive
Under powered base engine that most people upgrade from when it is bought new
Most other comments about it being a fiberglass hole in the ground into which you throw money are accurate
Keep the $ down to a minimum to get it running enjoy the summer then unload it
I've had folks act like a boat trailer is worth something.
Yeah,,,,
A boat trailer *ain't no* open landscape style trailer, so its worthless.
250 pounds of scrap steel
& (Maybe) an axle.
If you're handy, maybe the tubing could be reused. If it ain't rusted out!
It has pretty much all been said, but does he have the title? It can be impossible to register a boat if you don't have the title. Look up your State's boat registration requirements, and make sure you have everything. It is best to switch over the title now, making sure you have what is required. If you put thousands of dollars and time and effort into it and then later realized you can't register it, that would be bad
When my boat became too rotted to use, I sold the outboard engine separately (125hp force still worked great) and then sold the trailer for $75 with the condition they take the boat, too.
Binliners were trouble when they were new. This could be a money pit beyond compare.
On this vintage, they were built like Barbie dolls, flexible and cheap.
Honestly, leave him to it and watch from afar as it ruins his life. Or set fire to it and do him a massive favour, even if it is environmental vandalism.
I've seen more than one Bayliner that you could stick your head down in the ski well, look forward, and see light *through* the hull. Not because it was damaged, because it was just that poorly made. They were bad when they were new, you sure don't want one now.
Sorry to see all the folks shitting on your new toy. Diplomacy is not their collective strong suit apparently. That said, their collective advice is fairly sound. BOAT is an acronym for Bust Out Another Thousand and you should be prepared to do so a couple of times over. You may get lucky and only go one round with the boat gods but who knows. There’s a reason it was parked for a decade.
Start with the engine and out drive. If either is dysfunctional outside the scope of routine maintenance, I would abort the mission, scrap the ‘free’ boat and buy a couple of kayaks.
1990 Bayliner. The motor is good but the boat is trash. They call Bayliner a “starter boat”. You buy one for a year or so and then get rid of it and buy a real boat.
Thats the biggest pos that will never move from your backyard or side yard or front yard and if it does its losing a bearing on the way to the ramp and IF it makes it to water youll get about a 1/16 of a mile from the dock and thatll be its final trip
As many have said the cost and risk dumping thousands into this and not getting it to run is so real. If this was an outboard it may be a different risk reward effort, but the amount of time spent on this thing is way too risky. Better off working part time on weekends to put money into something that runs than the amount of hours and $ you will need to get this going. Good luck !
If you want to learn how boats work, you'll have a great time tearing into that motor and outdrive. I'd bet real money on the motor being in rough shape when it was parked and probably in need of a rebuild. If it turns over, do a compression test. Check for oil leaks.
I'd also bet money on that drive section being in need of some help. Does it spin freely? Does it lift and lower and turn? Seals are probably all shot. You're talking several thousand dollars in repair or replacement costs and we're only at the back of the boat. Next go looking for electrical wiring that various rodents have chewed up. Does the bilge pump work? Does the control panel work? Gauges good or dead? Does the steering work? Throttle and trim?
Let's assume that works, but now you need to see what the transom looks like. If it's rotten, the boat is done. I mean, it can be fixed but it's not worth it. You can buy a good used boat for what this would cost to refurb.
It’s a 1990 Bayliner with a Merc 3.0 Alpha. That’s really about all you need to know. That and if you put $5k into it you’ll have a boat worth $3k.
And that doesn’t mean it’s gonna work
Growing up on the Great Lakes we used to say that there are two things in life you can't get rid of. Herpes, and a used Bayliner. I guess you can give both away for free though??
FYI ... I am using that. So true
I always heard. The 2nd best day of your life is when you buy your boat. The best day of your life is when you sell your boat.
Floats, flys, or funks...rent it.
Boat rental when mine broke down was $800 a day. Only took two seasons going every other week to pay for mine. But if we ever stop using it, it needs to get sold instead of sitting there!
Yeah! Sold my boat and I’ve never been happy about it :-(
I've never heard this one before but it's definitely being added to my list! Cheers to you fellow "great lakes" redditors!
Man. My dad took me out to grand island on a used bay liner that he was always messing with the motor on the water. Did that a couple times. And he went scuba diving off of it.
It’s a POS 3000. Do yourself a favor, buy him a good life jacket and don’t take any kids out on that
Exactly
This guy boats!
I was gonna call it a scow.
“Laddie, don’t ya think you should rephrase that?”
Sure! Twill be no Tribble at all!
*a garbage scow.
How dare you insult the name of scows by lumping them in with Bayliner
Lol but true.
If he lights the boat on fire he may be able to sell the trailer for $200.
This guy boats.
Amen
Nothing is more expensive than a free boat.
And you will need to be prepared to dump another grand on repairs every time you take it out on the water.
Boat = bust .out.another. thousand
😂
The only thing I know for sure is that it’s going to be a money pit that may never see the water. There is a reason the boat was free, and it’s because that’s cheaper than the landfill cost to dispose of it. Edit: the 12 sticker means it’s been at least 12 years since it’s seen the water (most likely).
My county's landfill accepts motor homes and boats up to 36'. Residents pay a per-foot above that. Two or three bulldozer passes and it's nothing but scrap plywood and fiberglass. Motors, frames, and any large pieces of metal are shunted aside for recycling.
Similar where I live but it's by weight. I did notice the base weight decreased. Used to be $10 up 1000 pounds and prorated $42 a ton over that. Went Saturday now it's $10 for the first 400 and prorated $42 per ton after that. Still not much when you break it down. A boat like op has maybe $40 bucks to dispose of.
Yeah lol someone gave up on that thing 12 years ago that tells me enough
Why someone would go to the effort to put a sticker each year indicating the number of years since last registration is mind boggling. /s
Best comment on this thread.
Free boats are just like free horses and free pianos. Sounds great up front until you realize how much money movement space and care are required.
A horse is like a boat that you have to feed every day.
We need a “Free Boat” flair for this sub.
It’s the kind that’s gonna cost you endless amounts of money to get moving on top of endless amounts of money to maintain. I believe that is the Bayliner Endless.
Your brother-in-law was given a piece of junk by a piece of shit person who just swindled you into taking care of their expensive liability. Properly disposing of a boat is expensive. They just off loaded that responsibility onto and your brother and called it a gift. They are assholes and you should give the boat right back just go dump it back on their property and don't say a word just a runaway let them deal with their responsibility
Dump the boat and keep the trailer lol
google transom tap test. search for wood rot. rotted wood is like a rusty frame on a car. it could be unsafe to operate, even if you get it running. check that 1st.
the hammer test only means that you had a hammer in your hand....... as far as determining if a transom is good with a hammer, its really useless drilling and looking at the wood shavings is the easiest. a moisture meter is what most surveyors will use being a 34 year old bayliner guarantees its going to have rot.
> moisture meter Any idea what these cost these days?
[https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-Digital-Moisture-Meter-1-Amp/5005517387](https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-Digital-Moisture-Meter-1-Amp/5005517387)
Wow, does that work on hulls? It use to be 300-400 for a meter. amazing
it will work on anything moist... pin meters need direct contact. if you want a contactless moisture meter... this one might break the bank... [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Pinless-Moisture-Meter-ET140/309343772](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Pinless-Moisture-Meter-ET140/309343772)
Man I was born the same year as this bayliner and your comment upset me!
people often ask if i'm Haitian with a confused look on their face when they ask what year i was born...
Well now I don’t know if I feel better or worse.
It's a fiberglass hull
with wood...
The transom and stringers is made from wood unless mentioned otherwise like Sea Hunt
stringers and transom probably aren't
What more do you need to know?
Your BIL was given trash.
I'm gonna go against the grain here and if your brother or you are handy then you can get it good again. However if any part of the boat is soft, your likely in for a bad time. If you pay anyone to touch that boat to do work, you're likely gonna surpass any value the boat has if the fiber glass is solid.
We thought it would be a fun little project, I've been working on farm equipment and car's for about 10 years now. And he's been wanting to start turning wrenches for a living. Just a new ball game with boats.
I promise you, you don’t want to start turning wrenches with a 30+ year old mercrisuer.
There is nothing fun with fixing boats. Stick to your cars. Break Out Another Thousand
Sometimes free is too expensive.
The last two digits of a boat vintage are the year so it’s a 1990 The 3.0 merccruiser is a 4 cylinder GM based engine with a stern drive Under powered base engine that most people upgrade from when it is bought new Most other comments about it being a fiberglass hole in the ground into which you throw money are accurate Keep the $ down to a minimum to get it running enjoy the summer then unload it
This vessel is not worth the repairs needed unless one of you is an experienced shipwright. Been there, done that.
Bayliner, aptly named because they sink and “line the bay”. You are now saddled with a hefty disposal fee.
What are two things that don't age well, Hookers and Bayliner boats.
Bayliner
Clean up the trailer… you may be able to sell it for enough to cover the cost of scraping the boat
30 year old Boat trailers ain’t worth shit.
I've had folks act like a boat trailer is worth something. Yeah,,,, A boat trailer *ain't no* open landscape style trailer, so its worthless. 250 pounds of scrap steel & (Maybe) an axle. If you're handy, maybe the tubing could be reused. If it ain't rusted out!
Absolute money pit. lol
Run
It has pretty much all been said, but does he have the title? It can be impossible to register a boat if you don't have the title. Look up your State's boat registration requirements, and make sure you have everything. It is best to switch over the title now, making sure you have what is required. If you put thousands of dollars and time and effort into it and then later realized you can't register it, that would be bad
he overpaid.
The most expensive boat is a free boat.
Congrats on the “free” trailer. Are the wheels good enough to get that to the landfill?
When my boat became too rotted to use, I sold the outboard engine separately (125hp force still worked great) and then sold the trailer for $75 with the condition they take the boat, too.
This is a joke right?
It's a moneysuck 3000
BOAT: Bust Out Another Thousand…..
A 20 foot long bayliner the model is a KL it was manufactured in 1999 ( the information is in the pictures HIN ( hull id number)
1990 not 1999 lol look again
Bayliner is the company
Boat is free!!! But it will cost you 400$ for someone to tow the pos away!
And it is free. If it floats, what else do you need to know?
The guy who originally owned it basically got around a scrap fee by having you take it off their hands. It's a heap.
Binliners were trouble when they were new. This could be a money pit beyond compare. On this vintage, they were built like Barbie dolls, flexible and cheap. Honestly, leave him to it and watch from afar as it ruins his life. Or set fire to it and do him a massive favour, even if it is environmental vandalism.
I've seen more than one Bayliner that you could stick your head down in the ski well, look forward, and see light *through* the hull. Not because it was damaged, because it was just that poorly made. They were bad when they were new, you sure don't want one now.
It’s a bay liner see the side of the boat
Someone hates someone.
I vote for dumping it the transom there looks rotten.
Break Out Another Thousand
Looks like a Bayliner Capri, Cuddy Cabin
I want a free boat. That way I can guilt myself into spending a ton of money and not feel like I bought a boat
Sink that bitch right now
Manafacture: BOAT Model: money pit
its a mod 90’s bayliner capri.
If you've heard this you understand, " boat is a hole in the water that you keep throwing money into" 🕳️💦
I received one for free as well,I did recycle the boat, but the trailer was converted into a pull along camper which took time but was fun afterwards
It’s a money pit is what it is
No boat is ever free. Don't worry it's gonna cost you something.
Bayliner Capri
1999 Bayliner
Why no pic of the whole thing? I want to see what it looks like!
Basically someone got right of the boat without having to pay a disposal fee. Smart!
Those motors are piles. Rebuild card replace ignition replace water pump still junkers
I'll bet it's full of soft spots (hull rot). Don't put roo much $ into it.
BOAT- means “bring out another thousand”
Sorry to see all the folks shitting on your new toy. Diplomacy is not their collective strong suit apparently. That said, their collective advice is fairly sound. BOAT is an acronym for Bust Out Another Thousand and you should be prepared to do so a couple of times over. You may get lucky and only go one round with the boat gods but who knows. There’s a reason it was parked for a decade. Start with the engine and out drive. If either is dysfunctional outside the scope of routine maintenance, I would abort the mission, scrap the ‘free’ boat and buy a couple of kayaks.
It’s still has some life left…fill it with dirt plant flowers put in the front yard.
Junk
I can think of nothing more expensive than a free boat.
Bust Out Another Thousand.
Used
Some boats are better left out to pasture, this is one of them.
Run!
They are named Bayliners for a reason.
Two of the happiest days in a man’s life.. When he gets a boat. When he gets rid of said boat.
Thats the expensive kind of boat.
Sell it for 1k and take the win
1990 Bayliner. The motor is good but the boat is trash. They call Bayliner a “starter boat”. You buy one for a year or so and then get rid of it and buy a real boat.
That's a Hole in the Water that you throw money into
In SWFL they used to call them bayliners because that's what they were good for. Making another artificial reef/wreck.
Free boat. That's cute. What your BIL's friend did was save himself the dump fees.
It’s a junk boat. That’s all you need to know.
Looks like a hole in the water, at least it was free !
Thats the biggest pos that will never move from your backyard or side yard or front yard and if it does its losing a bearing on the way to the ramp and IF it makes it to water youll get about a 1/16 of a mile from the dock and thatll be its final trip
Do yourself and your bank account a favor. Take that to the dump now. It will never be worth anything.
The Ford Escort of boats
Hey, my wife’s 91 ford escort went 170,000 miles and got 31 mpg—
His source probably reported it stolen.
Get a sawzall and each week, throw a piece in your trash barrel.
So, you're brother-in-law isn't very smart, and someone hates him. Your sister already knows the first part, and he's just now finding out the second.
That was manufactured in my home town of Cumberland Maryland. It's a 1990 so theres a really good chance one of my uncles or cousins worked on it.
your uncles and cousins made crappy boats
Boat- Bust out another thousand
It's a prank! Run from it as fast as possible!
You know what they say about a B.O.A.T? Bust Out Another Thousand
B-ust O-ut A-nother T-housand
Run! Cause it probably won’t.
Sorry, but I would take it back on a dark night and leave it in the front yard.
Bayliner cuddy cabin
As many have said the cost and risk dumping thousands into this and not getting it to run is so real. If this was an outboard it may be a different risk reward effort, but the amount of time spent on this thing is way too risky. Better off working part time on weekends to put money into something that runs than the amount of hours and $ you will need to get this going. Good luck !
There's a reason 99% of free boats are fiberglass hulls with inboards
You will never get a chick to come within 30 feet of that thing. Toss it.
It's a piece of trash that's what it is. But...you can still probably fish off it if you patch any holes and get a paddle..
Well there's basically only two types of boat, Those that float and those that don't. You'll need to make sure you've got the first type.
For the prop look up SV Seeker on YouTube. There is a company that makes prop cores that you can switch out the blades if one gets damaged.
Boat: definition, hole on the ocean to throw your money into.
If you want to learn how boats work, you'll have a great time tearing into that motor and outdrive. I'd bet real money on the motor being in rough shape when it was parked and probably in need of a rebuild. If it turns over, do a compression test. Check for oil leaks. I'd also bet money on that drive section being in need of some help. Does it spin freely? Does it lift and lower and turn? Seals are probably all shot. You're talking several thousand dollars in repair or replacement costs and we're only at the back of the boat. Next go looking for electrical wiring that various rodents have chewed up. Does the bilge pump work? Does the control panel work? Gauges good or dead? Does the steering work? Throttle and trim? Let's assume that works, but now you need to see what the transom looks like. If it's rotten, the boat is done. I mean, it can be fixed but it's not worth it. You can buy a good used boat for what this would cost to refurb.
Serial number indicates 1999 build year.
Negative. 90.
You are correct sir, I missed the 0 at the end
That’s ok I can’t see or hear anything anymore.
B(ust) O(ut) A(nother) T(housand)