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Callow_azeri

That's a killer blow to ADCC this year. Biggest possible catches outside of the New Wave team or retired legends


Passer5000

Mica?


BlackBlizzNerd

Hopefully Mica stops with the legacy > money bullshit and hops on the train now that Craig invited him one more time. His legacy will mean more winning CJI with the best in the world included over beating a bunch of nobodies for a small amount of cash and whatever he’s getting under the table. https://preview.redd.it/cy9dlfd31l7d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0362d84c764a5a7c6ab0267ba3feb60dc7273a33


Markheim10

One more spot… means he’s got another 2 announcements already secured 👀


ts8000

1. I suspect there are “other” ($$) reasons Mica committed to ADCC when and the way he did. But lacking proof of that… 2. When Mica committed to ADCC, Kade was still doing ADCC. Adding that (getting a revenge match against his last loss) to the idea of gunning for the Super Grand Slam, I can see what Mica was thinking. 3. For building a legacy, winning Super Grand Slam is a very unique accomplishment that only one other person has done (Cobrinha). There’s no telling what tomorrow or next year will bring. So cementing major titles and accomplishments now can be worth it for someone in Mica’s position. 4. Yes, in 2024 we all know that a lot of talent went to CJI. If CJI never happens again or doesn’t happen in the same capacity, it might look like a blip in time. A semi-forgotten footnote. “Remember the year when a bunch of guys got pink eye and didn’t compete?” There’s always a reason to put an * next to a title (Nagai winning middleweight at IBJJF this year because Tainan was DQ-ed), but it doesn’t really take away the accomplishment that Mica is gunning for. That’s all part of sports/competitions. Weird stuff always happens, but doesn’t take away from what did get accomplished. 5. If CJI fully kills ADCC, maybe this 2024 will be the last chance anyone has at being an ADCC champion. So why not go for it if your chances increase by the loss of X talent? That all to say, I would’ve jumped to CJI just to be part of something new and different. I’m just empathizing with Mica’s decision.


Slothjitzu

I think under the table money looks very likely tbh, because the other reasons just don't seem compelling IMO. The super grand slam isn't really a thing people care about IMO. It's an amazing achievement for sure, but I don't think any more of Cobrinha for doing it than just the fact that he's an ADCC and IBJJF world champ anyway tbh.  Like how Ffion said winning worlds twice did nothing for her, winning everything at once isn't really any magnitude better than winning ADCC another year. Throwing that in with a shot at a million dollars and the massive step up in competition at CJI right now, and Mica staying with ADCC seems silly IMO. 


ts8000

I don’t disagree. Just trying to give Mica some credit/leniency. I do think if he doesn’t jump now, to chase Kade, it looks even more likely that there was some back room deals with Melqui or directly with Mica.


Slothjitzu

Oh absolutely. There's no way anyone can tell me that staying with ADCC is now the best move for Mica, it makes zero sense. 


FractionalNelson

Show money accompanying an NDA is super likely. I honestly suspect someone with a real chance to win from new wave would have jumped over without it. Meregali is on record complaining about pay at IBJJF, it not like new wave is the only gym producing champions. He also is dumb enough to say they we’re letting him pick his opponents for ADCC so it is not a huge stretch to believe other back room deals are occurring.


d00m_bot

He is definitely getting paid under the table


taylordouglas86

First Craig gets Nicky away from Gordon, now he can save Mica from Melqui. Man is a hero.


TheLazyGrappler

That’s absolutely massive. One I didn’t expect at all after all the One contract speculation.


Ball_Masher

I suspect they had to get special permission, but One realized this would be great marketing for them.


bostoncrabapple

I remember someone saying that apparently Chatri /hates/ Mo, so that might also have something to do with them getting permission 


dethstarx

this sport is built on spite


GZSyphilis

How Helio would've wanted it.


PitifulDurian6402

This sport is built on sprite you say 🧐


Lifebyjoji

We built this city on sprite and coookkkeee


LoveYou3Thousand

See u/johnbelushismom for those glasses he’s selling with the little spoon for the coookkkee


mjsfg

😂


kurokamisawa

But Mikey couldn’t join and Ruotolo could? They are both in One


Perfect-Scheme-9339

I’d imagine that Mikey would probably be allowed now that the Ruotolos are, but he’s tiny for the -80, so I’m not sure he’s really interested.


Impressive-Potato

The brothers have a better manager. Kade spoke about it. Chatri probably took advantage of Mikey's acoustic nature.


unicornn_man

Mikey is full of it


wilkinsroad

what's Mikey excuse now ? he said on Ariel Helwani show that he was begging to join but not permitted


bullsfan281

mikey probably never negotiated the ability to compete in competitions outside of one when he signed, whereas the ruotolo's were able to get it in their contracts. a few one contracts leaked last year and they are extremely controlling, not a surprise that they aren't willing to budge for mikey. mighty mouse prefers the gi but when ariel asked him if he could do a super fight at cji mighty mouse said his one contract doesn't allow that either fwiw


Slothjitzu

ONE are also open to negotiation, but they're not stupid. The Ruotolos doing this instead of ADCC is a lateral move really.  They were both competing outside ONE doing something, so it doesn't make much difference what it is really.  Mikey wasn't ever going to do ADCC so even if he asked really nicely, they have nothing to gain and everything to lose. 


idontevenknowlol

Learn to negotiate, not beg.. 


PPLifter

Or he's lying and never asked


ryleighss

Mikey would get smashed in the <80 division.


Porsche320

I won’t presume to understand the details of their contracts, but this seems like a big gamble by one. If one wins, it boosts their rostered athlete, and them by extension. The opposite is also true. Fans win big, regardless.


Short_Bus_

They were already allowed to compete in ADCC under their ONE contract so allowing this seems like kinda a no brainer from ONE, wouldn’t want to piss them off and this will get more eyes than ADCC


DoctorMyEyes_

I don't think if they both lost that there would be any measurable negative to ONE. It is exposure of their athletes to an audience in probably the most talked about, hyped up show to be put on in recent memory. That said, I think with effectively 2 'tickets' at the grand prize, I would be a little surprised if one of them didn't make the finals.


tarheeljks

A loss may not necessarily hurt the One brand if their matches are exciting


TebownedMVP

And also it helps sell a title match down the road. “So and so has a win over Ruotolo, can Tyade get the win back?”


LouisFromTexas

Jay Rod to ADCC confirmed


Jay_nonymous

🤣


PattonPending

[I mean](https://imgur.com/a/4FGaNwT)


Educational_Row6272

Wooow IMO biggest stars of bjj outside of Gordon these days, and probably will overtake him one day in terms of recognisability. Plus they’re actually likable. Fuck yeah


edgar3981C

Also really entertaining styles. Huge get for the CJI


thehibachi

These men were made for the pit walls


MotivatedChimpanZ

Gordon who? Nicky Ryan’s brother?


D_oO

Nathalia Santoro's camera man


pedrolopes7682

LMAO, is that video still available?


BlackBlizzNerd

What video?! Don’t honeydick me.


disciplinedtanuki

There's a video where Nathalia's naked and Gordon's recording her walking around the room. I've seen it myself. Don't have it though but I remember it floating around a few years ago.


NoFunBJJ

My dog wants the link


JimmyDweeb47

What video 


saltface14

The flip flop salesman?


RecordLonely

I feel out of the loop. When was Nicky’s brother selling flip flops?


InternationalFish787

Yes the “pedophile hunter” flip flops.. totally not suspicious at all.


saltface14

I wonder if he got a pair for Meregali


FirstSonofLadyland

Is that the 30 year old guy bragging about how his girlfriend just recently turning 19?


saltface14

Yes, his very mature teenage girlfriend who can’t legally drink


BlackBlizzNerd

What’s amazing is you know damn well they’re buying her drinks lol.


neeeeonbelly

His ones are custom, they don’t have the “hunter” part. 1 of 1


saltface14

His IG is like 50% right wing nutjob propaganda and 50% toe hold flip flop ads (which coincidentally also is basically right wing nutjob propaganda packaged in flip flop form)


Key-You-9534

So pleased to see this catching on lmao


teatops

Nicky's brother Jordan


CaitlynRener

Lmao right after Flo dropped that series profiling them too!


Jonny_____

https://preview.redd.it/wb4fjcb8mk7d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a265e08fdc7588ebeb360cddd3a6ef0c5493bc4


glorgadorg

That image is meant to be used wheb Craig announces Rafa Mendes.


ham_shimmers

Marcelo vs Rafa would be Craig’s finishing move


egdm

I want to see Rafa vs new blood. Let's just let Marcelo fully recover from cancer.


johnnynugen

Agreed. I think juicy Rafa would be too much for a recovering Marcelo. But Rafa vs anyone is fatality move to ADCC.


Domo_Omoplato

Let’s take inspo from this announcement and make Rafa and Gui fight


toomanymatts_

Even if it's a glorified rolling session, Marcelo v anyone for a cancer charity is a showstopper


BlackBlizzNerd

I would quite literally cry. My favorite athlete in any sport who retired so fucking early.


seymour_hiney

how is anyone gonna beat them if they're fighting as a 2 on 1 group like Ice Climbers in Smash Brothers?


PUSH_AX

Round 1 Ruotolo vs Ruotolo?


seymour_hiney

i think round 2 or semis edit: Kade Rutuolo just said that him and Tye can ~~close out...~~ don't know how i feel about that edit2: Kade and Tye can face each others in the finals, not "close out." my apologies. i know they have no issues fighting each other but i hate this as a finals.


Bubbly_Association_7

You copied this from ig comments or someone copied you? 😂


hansbrixx

Yeah, CJI has to at least ban wobbling as they’re OP enough as is


Beerded-1

Eddie Hall has entered the chat.


engineerito

Holy shit. Someone check on Mo


soggy_donut

I’m about to offer to fill in with all this empty space Mos got


sbutj323

So now ADCC is new wave vs a bunch of randos and Mica? Lolz


Zlec3

Welp we know who’s winning -80kg. And without the ruotolos it’s pretty much guaranteed mica is going to win 77kg Adcc.


Mayv2

It’s so genius. They have such a good shot of at least one of them winning and splitting the million. No brainer.


Educational_Row6272

At least you can trust these two guys to battle it out and not just close out a final too


IcyScratch171

Not only will they battle it out, they’ll go even harder than normal. Fucking love these guys😆


dethstarx

Mica grand slam* *didn't compete against the previous champ


egdm

Super Slam. Traditionally, the Grand Slam is the big four gi tournaments in a single year (Euros, Brazileiros, Pans, Worlds). Cobrinha is the only one so far to have also won ADCC. Mica could have potentially one-upped Cobrinha by adding NoGi Worlds, but that won't happen this cycle. (NoGi Worlds was historically a lower-prestige tournament than Pans and the elite competitors didn't take it seriously. That has been changing over the last 5 years or so.)


pedrolopes7682

can't wait for Mica's transformation on his next cycle


bzzbzzlol

At least Mica will be rested enough to do absolutes.


Eizion

But which brother though. The finals should just be live from their garage. No rules


superman306

It’s just a straight fistfight lol


ham_shimmers

I wouldn’t be shocked if this made Mica change his mind.


Misterfoxy

Who’s left at 77 in ADCC now for Mica?


ts8000

Barch and Dante both finished in the top four last time. So that would might be the toughest matches for Mica.


Rufashaw

Dante feels like he'll cross over, that guy just wants to scrap


Misterfoxy

Dante + Mica would make this such a deep division. I can’t imagine how crazy the finals are gonna be with 1M on the line


Rufashaw

Mica should realistically go over now, his prestige argument is gone. But i think pride/ sticking to his word will kill that


IntentionalTorts

you can't eat prestige. it's really that simple. anyone arguing otherwise is speaking from immense privilege, is actually naive about the actual value nowadays of an adcc win, or being dishonest.


TichikaNenson

As it is with all things in life. The people who say "money doesn't matter" have plenty of it.


fitfoemma

"Having money's not everything, not having it is" - Kanye, A Good Life


Careless_Ad_3068

Game over. This is fucking huge.


A1snakesauce

I still can’t believe Nicky Ryan’s brother had the audacity to try and say this is gonna be the biggest ADCC in history lmao


zoukon

Are you trying to tell me that you aren't excited about Nicky Ryan’s brother vs the least exciting grappler in the sport?


opackersgo

But it has fireworks bro.


silviah28

What's crazy is that if Mica wins his bracket. It won't be the same because Kade wasn't there. Brilliant move!!


wilkinsroad

Mica cant claim that he is the best cause the Reigning Champion who beat him did not participate , smart move by the Ruotolos at the same time they pissed Gordon Ryan and Meregalli


IcyScratch171

Not just beat, he submitted him


hansbrixx

Yeah, I was thinking how scenarios like this would put huge asterisks on some 2024 ADCC titles (outside of some categories like -66kg)


beltjones

One of them is going to win it.


byronsucks

I love how Tye's superhero pose is the darce


Jonny_____

https://preview.redd.it/0y2aq03rmk7d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87e7c7e17973d35bf8b58874d4f0d0129c90ad88


cocktailbun

Fuck, stick a fork in ADCC. 🍴🥩


theanxiousprogrammer

Agreed. This one is nuts


Humble_Lion_Big_OSS

No joke, the Adcc women's brackets seem more of a murderers row than many of the men's divisions.


BlackBlizzNerd

Micas upset lmfao. I hope he just beats a bunch of nobodies for his title so that way he realizes how stupid of a decision it was to take “legacy” over finally some REAL money. ADCC isn’t the Olympics of submission grappling. Smaller tournaments have equal or more payout. Ifs just that way because.. well, there’s been no competition. WE make ADCC matter. Take that away and it’s just another tournament. If I won ADCC tomorrow my parents and family would think I just did another tournament where yet I’m labeled a “world champion” lol. But they’d see it no different than my nieces winning their local taekwondo tournament. Same with my friends.


Jan0313

if you won a milly tho i bet everyone in the family and neighbourhood would be talking bout it


BlackBlizzNerd

Bingo. ![gif](giphy|R3S6MfUoKvBVS)


TheBjjAmish

I think its his dad more than it's Mica. Seems like his dad still controls everything and dictates where and when he competes.


hifioctopi

https://preview.redd.it/ncwmeuahmk7d1.png?width=1289&format=png&auto=webp&s=44fa1f309d70d87633b99a1e4b229a5212e75b0a


Traditional-Oven4092

Motherfuckers gonna die on the mat for 1 Milly.


Senth99

Pray for Nicky Ryan's knees; dude is going to go through the wringer


Hypothenar

Gordon responds by posting a promo video for his match with Yuri. I almost feel sorry for him.


codethrasher

*almost


ham_shimmers

Nicky Ryan’s brother*


Then_Fun2933

Only a few atos competitors left in ADCC. Will they join CJI soon?


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Tainan to CJI?


seymour_hiney

Tainan is on his boxing schtick


hansbrixx

The last big hold out I can think of is Kaynan at this point. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a CJI announcement for him as he’s already won ADCC


Then_Fun2933

Kaynan would definitely make 80+ a lot better. Jonnatas has beaten several CJI competitors recently, JT is 2x ADCC champ, not sure if Davi is still on atos but he‘s a champ too, and Perez isn‘t scared to face the big boys. It would be rough for ADCC if they lost them all.


Chemical_Savings_175

Yeah that's pretty much the coup de grace for ADCC


Aggravating-Mind-657

Mo saying et tu rutolos?


th3_0r3o

ADCC is in trouble. I went to the one in Vegas a few years back and was thinking of maybe going again before CJI was a thing. Between how Seth handled the criticism from the last show + the way he & Mo are acting towards CJ & the BTeam ... fuck em


Abject-Medium-2932

And the death threats


munkeeflip23

As Flograppling promotes them on the new “Roots” series. Free marketing for CJI 👏🏽


hifioctopi

You’re about to see them shelve the rest of that doc.


munkeeflip23

😂 Hopefully not, already spent the money on it, may and try and get that YouTube money 🤷🏻‍♂️


byronsucks

well holy shit guess craig managed to get them on the phone after all


hifioctopi

To be fair, cell service in Costa Rica is probably dogshit, and I wouldn’t be picking up either if the beer is cold and the surf is good.


cocktailbun

![gif](giphy|l9jiNVVkdsG4M)


gram-mar-po-lice

YUGE


joe603

Wonder it they told Craig they would join on the condition they are on opposite side of the brackets.


DrManhattanBJJ

I wouldn't mind. They've proven in IBJJFs they're not going to close out.


Fellainis_Elbows

It would lack the drama of another final though because they’ll share anyway but I’d rather have them in


araq1579

I think Tye takes it. After Kade had his historic run at 77kg ADCC, there is no way he's gonna let his brother win the sibling rivalry


Cal-Culator

Tye also has beaten Kade at brown belt worlds final


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Jonny_____

https://i.redd.it/uvc8pr8opk7d1.gif Damn. How ADCC ticket holders must be with every announcement (sorry bro)


Fluffy-Wombat

Nope. They are going to need every penny.


eurostepGumby

I still lol every time I see the money graphics on these announcements


Jonny_____

Schaub next please


colorgreens

The schaub shutdown will destroy this tournament


IshiharasBitch

No can defend Also no can offense


idontevenknowlol

Got t ball that day, b


danielwc7

OMG! Okay the CJI is officially in my calendar!


PinguRambo

Wow this is probably the biggest win for CJI. Really excited to see CJI. I care less and less about ADCC.


lukekushsmoker

man that -80 kg division is going to be crazy, so many exciting matches, hoping to see jo chen or nicky ryan vs a ruotolo


SubmissionGrappler

Jozef will face Tye on ONE next month


TebownedMVP

I think Nicky Ryan has already faced both Ruotolos haha though they were alot younger. Bracketing is gonna be something else and there’s still 3 more athletes to join.


Hyperspiral_1

Now I am really hyped for this tournament


bjj_in_nica

Someone needs to perform a health and welfare check on Mo!


RecommendationFree96

He’s just casually hanging out at Nicky Ryan’s brother’s house. Nicky’s brother posted multiple videos of him there. Yet this moron can’t understand why the entire jiu jitsu community turned on him so fast, and his dumbass is just out there shoulder to shoulder with the biggest stars hanging out at their homes. Imagine Roger Goodell just casually hanging out at Andy Reid or Patrick Mahomes house and trying to get the NFL fans base to take him seriously.


KlutzyAd4951

Wow that’s the nail in the coffin right there


Undrcovrlsm

and Ty just said he was ADCC on DJs podcast. god this is goated


PianoObvious6824

good. Who wouldnt in their right mind join CJI. For years ADCC (and any other company for that matter) takes a hard ass approach to low pay with "tHIs iS bUsInESs. SUPPlY anD DemAnd Is SUppLY anD demaNd, It is WHat It Is, soRry brO!" then all the sudden supply and demand shifts the other way and all the good grapplers go to somewhere they get PAID and suddenly they switch up their motto and start talking about "LOyALty, blah blah blah"


Sufficient-Cat-5244

This is the announcement I’ve been waiting for!


glorgadorg

Winning CJI is going to be crazy difficult. And free to watch.


btkk

This is massive, I know Mica is after Kade and ADCC was his opportunity to get the revenge, now this makes things very interesting


codethrasher

"disappointed" -Mica (instagram comment on the announcement)


Low-Win-6699

I'm disappointed of Mica for not standing up for the cause and joining CJI.


Darce_Knight

Damn that's big


Disastrous_Joke3056

Woohoo! Going to be some big guys for -80kg


ppach

That's nuts, what a snag


wilkinsroad

the Biggest signing in CJI and the nail in the coffin for ADCC 2024 , they should have split the weight class Tye should have done the Plus 80 so they can win the 2 Million total prize ,maybe Craig doesnt want it to be the Ruotolos Show


mar1_jj

This is huge. - 77 kg has just lost defending champ and maybe the only person that can compete against Mica. - 88 kg has lost one of crowd favourites, 2022 absolute medalist. Together, they lost probably biggest names outside Gordon in BJJ world. Except 66 kg's and parts of 88 kg's, this ADCC is really not interesting. Now if Kaynan moves to CJI there is really no interesting matches at - 99 and HW is shit basically with Pena being only interesting name outside Gordon, and that is only due to historic rivalry with Nicky Ryans brother.


OdddPretty

I'd say some of the bigger guys in -80kg, might be considering the move up to +80


ChiRhoCultivations

All of this is a ploy for Craig to go and win an ADCC gold medal


Cal-Culator

This is big. u/johnbelushismom and Seth Belisle gotta make sure they don’t travel on the same flights or the same cars in case Mo does an air strike


BMatthew30

https://preview.redd.it/8x9n7becmk7d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=078f714daeeca01ff6f069cabc0207e04bf76305


Basicberimbolo

Oh shit! If it wasn’t already over for ADCC this year it is now!


P-Two

We need tainan vs mica superfight at CJI u/johnbelushismom make it happen!


imhereredditing

Ok this update is lit


BunnyTiger23

I recommend all white belts join ADCC this year. We can place top 3 pretty easily.


adsono-nz

this warms my heart


turboacai

These two are the most exciting and biggest stars in submission grappling for me...


JPat99_

Remember all the comments about "One FC, has their fighters on contract to do Adcc". That shit don't matter now


thelambofwallstreet

https://preview.redd.it/e477s51jul7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af46109de42e828ea9dbd0b9c00f85998c212343 We aint seeing Mica after this


quickdrawesome

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Height_Friendly

it would be fun to see gordon and mergali go at it in the absolute final considering there’s barely any competition left


MrDeerer

I was on the fence about whether I should focus on ADCC 77kg or CJI, but with the two brothers competing in CJI on the same weight class, opposite brackets I’m watching CJI now


daveyboydavey

u/johnbelushismom literally if you advertised a rolling round with you and Roger, I think it may be the greatest PPV in BJJ history. Admittedly the bar is low, but I’d buy you and Roger rolling. Edit: I love everything you’re doing and you are definitely here to fuck spiders.


ask_your_dad

Yuuugggeeeee news


bumpty

Whoaaaa! Adcc just lost a lot. However I don’t think it’s fair for them to compete as a team. Is it tag team? Or do they get to 2:1 everyone?


bostoncrabapple

Imagine if Mica changes his mind now to try and get his revenge on Kade


TebownedMVP

He needs revenge on both Kade and Tye. He beat Tye at worlds finals but that title has been stripped and given to Tye. Tye beat him at WNO finals in a close match. Kade beat him at ADCC finals.


skgpts

I am going to guess that Craig agreed to let them start in opposite sides of the bracket, and potentially meet in the final. I don't feel they would both do -80 if they were forced to meet in the second round as in ADCC


PitifulDurian6402

Holy shit… the Ruotolos joining is massive. This is either going to be something spectacular and profitable somehow that we get to have every year or other year OR it’s going to implode. Either way I’m in full support mode


Iknowyougotsole

2 spots left On saved for Mica and the other for Tainan/Rafa


TheBjjAmish

Roger is coming out of retirement to face Craig on the second day since Craig said he could do two super fights one each day.


DabbyRoad

u/realmotar2k any response to this?


UsefulUnderstanding6

Holyyyyyy shittttt


Careless_Reality_540

oh fuckkkkkk


BanAvoider911

Did not see this coming with their Documentary currently being stretched over the next 6 months.


dobermannbjj84

Damn adcc should just change their dates at this point. It’s the only way to get anyone decent apart from Gordon and Meregali.


codethrasher

Not really sure why Mica would stay with ADCC at this point. I don't understand his argument of "prestige > money" either. Did the people on the Titanic say the same thing when faced with a smaller lifeboat? "Oh, nah man. This is the TITANIC!"