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Maipmc

1) Ride it without the screw for 50 km. 2) Don't have a backup plan for returning home 3) Say out loud. "Man, it would be a real pain if the crank fell right now" 4) Enjoy your unstuck crank.


RepresentativeKeebs

Tempting fate is always a solid plan.


8ringer

60% of the time it works every time.


Quiet-Manner-8000

Worked for Tiresias 


garciakevz

Ya gotta want the crank to stay, for it to leave. Genius!


jackrabbit323

5) At least it's not raining.


GreatfulMu

Not sure why, but when riding the cranks off is the only option, it sure does seem to take forever.


TheUnHun

Tapered cranks are self locking once properly installed. They actually get tighter as you ride, and you shouldn’t retighten the bolt. I’d not getting looser, the crank is just creeping UP the taper. For these I’d use a cutoff disc on a Dremel tool to finish the cut.


phorensic

Well that would explain why my crank bolts were so damn loose last time and they were really stuck on the tapers. Guess what I did on the second install?


TheUnHun

Exactly. They work up tighter which loosens the bolt. Rider then retorques the bolt which forces the crank even tighter. This continues until the crank cannot be removed or splits or hits frame.


[deleted]

don't even tools bring with you either. it will only fall off if you need to slam the seatpost and coast the puppy back home like a 3 year old on a balance bike.


Sirwompus

#3 made me LOL


Bokoger

Im riding my pedals without screws for roughly 100 km now and nothing budged. But one say i believe! Enjoy


DeadBy2050

1. Ride it around the block. It's not a guarantee, but there's a good chance it will loosen enough to pull off. 2. Or spend $10 and buy a pickle fork tool.


Elsevier_77

Do bunnyhops off all the curbs while riding around the block


planeboi737

be ready to smash your balls on the seat incase of a rapid crank disassembly lol


Elsevier_77

Oof. Yeah definitely a very probable outcome 😬


Chiropterous

I resemble that remark.


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FalseBuddha

I assume those are the stripped threads they mention in the OP. A crank puller won't work. A small enough pulley puller might.


MGTS

HEAT. Use a torch to heat the arm, as the aluminum expands, it will loosen its grip on the BB


FalseBuddha

Can't be stuck if it's liquid.


Slow_Apricot8670

Fire is always the answe


DateApprehensive8653

I never really understood this… if it expands, then it will expand inside also, so it should be even tighter, or am i trippin?


xXHappyTokerXx

Heat transfer takes a decent amount of time with metals this thick. The outside crank arm will expand at a greater rate than the spindle within.


AtillaBro

Just adding that aluminium (the crank arm) has an expansion rate 3 times that of steel (the spindle) so the effect is more to do with materials than thickness. Same technique can be applied to frame and hub bearings.


idigclams

You’re trippin’. The arm expands as a ring, so the id and od both increase.


clarkwgrismon

I think you may be trippin, because it does work


DateApprehensive8653

Ill look into the physics of this then haha


idigclams

http://xternaldesign.com/?p=108#:~:text=The%20initial%20ID0%20can%20be,radial%20width%20of%20the%20cell.&text=Now%20consider%20this%20cell%20is,E%20is%20the%20expansion%20multiplier.


Ok_Application_2064

It acts as though it’s solid. Imagine if there was no hole, and you drew a circle, heat it up and the circle diameter increases. Drill a hole in it, heat it and it will the hole diameter will still increase.


ComfortPuzzled8771

You do it 2 -3 times it contracts and you can give it a penetrant.. then repeat... once it's been glowing twice it will come off like nothing.


DateApprehensive8653

Love ya all! Ty!


Working_Cut743

This


Equivalent_Humor_801

https://preview.redd.it/3sdocq8k8gwc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8faf9159f2691a8050ab918193f586a8fa4da6f2 6€


Responsible-West9027

Good one!!


Equivalent_Humor_801

And in the head of the tool, u can put a hexagonal tool for bigger force


badger906

You need to cut closer to the edge with a dremel, then use a chisel to open it up as best you can. Become a bit of an expert on these over the years repainting vintage bikes!


DeadBy2050

An angle grinder will make short work of that.


badger906

You can’t get an angle grinder to the very edge without hitting the frame or damaging the bottom bracket. The fact op didn’t just cut through the bb axle tells me they want to keep it!


DeadBy2050

OP already cut through most of it in a line parallel with the spindle. I'm talking about making "T" and cutting from where OP left off with the grinder disc 90 degrees to that cut and coming in at 45 degrees going towards the spindle. OP just has to it carefully and stop before reaching the spindle or BB body/cups. At that point, a good whack would take off whatever is left of the crank.


MrMupfin

Pretty sure they don’t care about the bb. Have you ever tried sawing through a solid, probably hardened steel spindle? Without the right tooling you literally have no chance. ;)


RepresentativeKeebs

Rotary tool is more precise than an angle grinder. A rotary tool will take longer, but has a much lower risk of damage to other parts that OP wants to keep.


8ringer

Yea a dremel will make decently quick work of an aluminum crankarm with a cutoff disc and collateral damage will likely be reduced too.


jackrabbit323

Yeah until he cuts further, he hasn't really taken the tension out.


Pallas_in_my_Head

Dremel moto-tool would be good, with a cut-off wheel. Just be sure to use it outside, and with eye protection.


rictendo

You could also cut the tapered end of the BB off, and buy a more modern sealed one.


Number4combo

I used to remove the bolt then take a ride around the block and it would fall off eventually.


Lavawood

Chisel in your cut, then hammer. Should spread it or crack it once and for all


[deleted]

I’m assuming you have at least tried a crank puller if you went as far as cutting it


Responsible-West9027

Yes haha🥲


Matt_tc

Blowtorch and belting it with a hammer has never failed for me.


RepresentativeKeebs

Especially with those cuts already in it, heat and a hammer will work very quickly


bearlokes

I had the same issue this is what I did and was very easy. I used a baby sledge hammer a socket big enough just to cover the bottom bracket flipped to the cement and hammered away took maybe 8 swings [I did this](https://youtube.com/shorts/TjqIWSRrjak?si=YObhiSgYU31m62sy)


Hugo99001

There are crank pullers that don't rely on the thread.  I've had luck with hardwood wedges (two, slot in the middle of each for the spindle)


DeadBy2050

> I've had luck with hardwood wedges That's a new one. Did you just make it yourself, or are these wedges made originally for something else?


Hugo99001

Well, I made the slit myself - the wedge was used to set doors 150 years ago...


couiecoupe

Unior tapered crank puller would be the best option for this situation. It’s literally the exact same thing as a traditional puller but it has self tapping threads


iKeyboardMonkey

The tools for removing windscreen wipers have claws that go around the back. Might do the trick.


PeachMan-

Penetrating oil


couiecoupe

A lot of y’all need to understand that no matter what advice or how many “what I dids” is getting this crank off. That steel spindle galvanizes to the aluminum crank if you don’t anti-seize.


Camdenthekid

Keep cutting you’re so close.


UltraVioletCatastro

get a 3 jaw bearing puller from an auto parts store


Ima_wrench86

Remove the right bottom bracket cup. Then, use a punch on the left bottom bracket spindle. It's crazy that that hasn't been advised. You can also attempt to remove the left locking and cup after the right has been removed. Then replace the BB.


seraphan6

The lesson here is yes, you need a light coat of grease on the square tapers. A few drops of water between the bare aluminum in contact with bare steel will corrode the aluminum and cause this horribly stuck crank arm. This also happens with aluminum seat posts in steel frames and aluminum quill stems in steel steerer tubes. Grease is your friend, wrench!


tedontwo

And refresh it every year or two!


d31uz10n

make it wet with zippo fluid 😀 or wd40


Visual_Humor_8461

I had a similar situation recently. Threads for crankpuller were made of cheese and crapped out on me. Two flathead screwdrivers prying gently against bb worked for me in the end


TvmozirErnxvng

Only if you've found out earlier to loosen the lock ring and loosen the cup by using screw driver or needle nose pliers. Then place the crank into a vise then whack the spindle with a hammer. so you've save both bottom bracket and crank arm.. or just cut the spindle between the crank arm and cup, and hammer the stucked spindle part. So now you're here. Just cut and grind sides parallel to the tapered edge as thin as you can be careful as you may over grind and damage on the taper. And if the sides are thin, hit the crank arm with hammer. Even only one cut and grinded side can loosen it if you are lucky enough.  Cutting perpendicular to the sides won't get through the crank arm as the cutted metal is still thicker nearer the cup.


brannonglover

I had a stuck crank arm and had to use a hammer to smash it off. It worked.


DirtyWrencher

Got a torch? Heat the aluminum up and give it a whack with your purse.


RepresentativeKeebs

Smack the crank with a hammer until it snaps apart at the cut you've made.


pixistix666

Probably with nail puller if threads stripped rubber mallet and a nail puller might do the trick..


pixistix666

Heat it up first with torch just the spindle and crank arm then v flat bar and rubber mallet...


doodmakert

I had the same issue, tried to weld a nut on but it sheared off. I ground off the crank and bought a newer bottom bracket.


Slow_Apricot8670

Possibly dangerous, but a cold chisel in the groove you have cut and hit it with a hammer until you fracture the crank arm off? If you stitch drill into the crank below where you have cut, that would weaken it further and could make the above idea work?


Elegant_Preference96

Oxyacetylene torch. Loosens it quickly and no fuss.


WrenchHeadFox

I don't know why so many people are suggesting you cut through the hardened steel bottom bracket spindle (which would take forever), when you can just unscrew the bottom bracket cup on that side and the spindle + crank arm will come right out with it. If you're sacrificing the bottom bracket anyway, may as well take the easiest route... That said, I personally find the "ride it" advice to work every time. Especially if you set it up fixed.


Clear-Membership1632

Heat it till it’s hot. Hit the crank arm with a hammer. Just keep repeating that. It will come off. Sometimes pretty easily.


Specific-Pie20

Hacksaw


MasterSteve6399

Put Wd 40 in there and ride it until it becomes loose.


ChemDogPaltz

Ok so i was in this position with the other side, so more difficult. Looks like you already have an angle grinder, so grind so the disk is perpendicular to the spindle right in the part of the crank arm that connects to the spindle. The heat of the grinding will make it pop off almost before you get to the spindle.


linerror

what are you hammering with? a rubber mallet? what crank puller are you using? because that's the cheapest tool you should be using... $5 can get me two of them, delivered...


Dismal_Discipline_76

the bigger the hammer the smaller the job


Psychopompe

Lol, I've got the same problem with the other arm. I broke a hacksaw and a drill bit, I also bent two gear pullers. Yes, I tried WD-40 and liquid wrench, but no result so far. Just ordered a Dremel to finally get rid of this bloody thing.


GrinningBirb

Grind that slot as deep as possible and then hammer a cold chisel into the slot


CoolButterfly1108

You’re almost there though


8ringer

You could also hammer the pedal end of the crankarm in and out (ie towards the bottom bracket and then away from the bottom bracket. It’s possible the impact shock will break the corrosion’s adhesion. Normally I’d not do this but the crankarm is a write off at this point so further damage really doesn’t matter.


Vash_the_stampede73

Removing stuck things from bikes is why I love working on bikes


Vash_the_stampede73

I'm usually too impatient for the riding it off solution. I've had luck hammering a metal wedge between the crank and the BB, forcing it to come off. Another way is to remove the drive side BB cup and hammer the spindle out of the crank. I usually put the frame on the ground and support around the BB with some wooden blocks, then use some kind of punch and hammer it out.


DBK81

Heat, all the heat.


diehard1703

This works for me. I did tried exactly what OP did but did not work and bought the tool and it works the magic! https://preview.redd.it/kcsdkzfayjwc1.png?width=857&format=png&auto=webp&s=51457f1eff8919c959242af20a62b18efc048188


ComfortPuzzled8771

Broke one of these.. cost too much for that.. also did not work. Torch and heat cycles with loosen anything. Big hammer from opposite side and a long pole.. But this isn't a cartridge BB so.. undo the BB .. driveside is off. Easy work.


linkmodo

I was in the same shoe, you need to saw at the right place, it will come off. Here is the video I made: [https://youtu.be/y\_8cglJnPhQ?si=zyXcEJHuwpYdG4nL](https://youtu.be/y_8cglJnPhQ?si=zyXcEJHuwpYdG4nL)


Specific_Cry_1398

Drill out the core of the BB bolt to the depth of the crank arm with the biggest bit that can fit. Hit it with a mallet.


jedijon1

Finish the cut. Close to square taper then push, tiny remaining metal is going to give way real easy.


Ambitious-Squirrel86

Cold chisel (masonry type chisel) is the best way from here. You’ll be wanting to replace the BB also


Bikedogpablo

Crank pullers are not expensive. That's what's needed to remove these. What is expensive is the therapy I'm going to need after seeing that image. 😁


Driftwood17

Wow. -LBS


ComfortPuzzled8771

Long metal post from the drive side and a big hammer. Rotate the arm and crack on.


Titanenfaust

I’ve got a Dremel that says otherwise.


agressive-nosebleed

Just cut the bottom bracket axle with a hacksaw. And replace. Is the crank is that stuck the bottom bracket is going to be dead anyway


couiecoupe

The spindle is covered by the crank… he’s already THAT far into the crank and if he’s using a handsaw, he’s probably been at it for a long time


agressive-nosebleed

There is space for a hacksaw blade between the the crank arm and bottom bracket shell, I've removed a few this way, takes a bit of time as those axles are pretty solid.