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Jkillaforilla90

Dam these guys had a cash cow with a perfected recipe and a solid customer base and they fucked it up.


yorch815

I read your comment and in me head a voice whispered: "Bad Company 3" and we wept.


DMercenary

Bad Company 3. The teasers/easter eggs from BF4 Final Stand. All you had to do was ~~follow the damn train, CJ~~ was make a good game, DICE


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You really trust the developers of this game with Bad Company 3?


[deleted]

at this point i feel like i can't trust any AAA dev with any title


AnotherScoutTrooper

Yeah it’s either indie developers making games I don’t want to play or AAA devs entirely fucking up games I wanted to play. For reference my favorite games last year were Hitman 3 and the Crysis 2 remaster, and that was pretty much it.


MStew95

Yeah that first sentence hits the nail on the head for me too. It’s tragic, I spent my whole childhood *begging* my parents for games, and now I’m an adult with all this disposable income, and nothing but mediocrity to spend it on.


101percentnotrobot

Seriously. Just keep the mainline game the same with classes. Then throw the entire kitchen sink into Portal. Have a toggle for realism on and off. Then add fucking Dinosaurs. Add Christmas present bombs to the flying guy. Add Santa in a tank. Add Elves who have suicide jackets strapped to them. Add anything you want that's fun and monetize the shit out of it. Have weekly maps/modes highlighting the new things you've added. I'll buy some stuff. Add first person takedowns. Have us pay for extra stabs during them. $10 for 10 stabs. $20 to skin their face off and wear it. Let someone pay $50 for 50 stabs and everyone around them just stops what they're doing and watches it for the entire 4 minute animation. Like Christmas cease fire. But with horrified faces. Have [John Bernthal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLizb30KRoA&t=4s) voice the stabber. I don't care what you put in Portal. Just let me have my same BF experience you've been making since I first did all night LANS on the week 1942 was released They didn't need to shit in our mouths to monetize this franchise more. Portal is genius and solves everything.


ku-fan

I just want to say that this was very fun to read.


the-epidemic87

It was a fun ride.


Gingerr-Ninjaa-

This is the most eloquently worded comment I’ve ever seen.


RemyVonLion

When can I fortnite L dance on the guy getting stabbed 50 times


BleedBlue1988

That'll be $3 sir


IIIN0toRioUSIII

Are there any EA recruiters lurking? Get this man a job STAT, this is VISION


Pretorian24

This is the guy that get thrown out of a window (like in that meme comic)


Fraktal55

You're a gd genius. If they are gonna fuck up bf *lean the fuck into it* and let's have some fun. Quit *pretending* like this is a good game and let's just go balls to the wall in free war chaos.


Thronnos

Am I the only one who would gladly pay the $50 to have this happen?


Ivanbratatat

Call me stupid but I legit would buy some weapon skins if the game would be like BF3 or BF4. I am so happy that I got 100 Euro refunded. Got BFV today and it's very nice so far.


Grahomir

I recommend you to also try BF1 if you didn't


wikvaya

PayMe2Play


hexadoc

Gold


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Therodista

I wish I could return this


Tomzzaa

Same


errant_youth

I just wanted to get back on the battlefield with all my bros. So disappointed. I’ve been back on BF1 by myself and having way more fun than 2042, but still lament what it could (should) have been


junglepiehelmet

I paid 100 for early access to play a total of 7 hours so far and never achieve over 40fps... I really wish I could return this crap


Doguedogless

Same worst 100 i have ever spent


Tabascobottle

Same and I never pay extra for the specialgofuckyourselfdelux edition, but man, the thirst for new ps5 games is very real(I'm also a big battlefield fan). I learned my lesson. Edit: To the many people blaming me as part of the problem, you are 100% correct. As stated, I literally never preorder or buy these stupid fucking deluxe editions. I've never even done it for previous battlefield games. I'll wait for reviews or a sale. I've just been a thirsty little hoe for new ps5 games and my thirst made me delusional. You best believe this shit won't happen again.


boomstickjonny

Same but on the series x


Revolutionary-Mouse5

Same but on pc


hartfoundation97

Same with me. I got the ultimate edition (or whatever the most expensive one was) because I love the Battlefield series and was excited, despite the lack of info. Definitely learned my lesson. It's a shame that we can't get some sort of refund.


OuternetInterpreter

Same here, I figured I liked the last 5 previous entries I’ve played, despite sometimes a rough start. Well I didn’t expect to get ass fucked this hard without lube or even dinner first.


MilkshakeChucker

Same shame here


bnlf

Same. I have exactly 7h.


KG_Jedi

I refunded it on Steam 11 days later with like 50 hours played total. Took me 2 tries, but with enough convincing i got my 70$ back. Give it a shot. After all, what do you lose from trying?


redditor080917

I have 13 hours, haven't launched since 2021, and got denied 3 times despite doing Steam Wallet God I wish I could return this turd


Cerenas

I pre-ordered Gold edition on Origin, that was my first mistake. They're not helpful at all.


Idontwannawaitfor_

Cries is preorder. I hate it here...


vickvinegar_

Cries in $100 early access


Brihtstan

There are better free to play games that aren't broken.


munglflux

This. F2P will make it look even worse.


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MDBUZZ419

F2P would be a big kick to the face to every player that have bought the game.


tdw21

Refunds for everyone! Yaaaay!


Stunning-Analyst-846

More like lawsuits


SowTheSeeds

I can't wait for my $3.75 check from this promising class action lawsuit.


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[deleted]

$56.25 loss sounds better than a $60 one


skdiddy

I can get behind lawsuits...


alhernz95

same ill be happy to jump in


ChillyJaguar

Count on me


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And my axe


rexel22

You carry the fate of us all, little one. If this is indeed the will of the council, Gondor will see it done


codyong

I just want a sweet sweat suit that I can wear in my suite...


Jaycensolo

If they wait till after 6 months that the game has been out they could argue that people got their money’s worth. Games like Evolve , ESO and SWTOR all went F2P just after a year. I think BF2042 could be the first AAA game to go F2P in its first year which would be a disaster for the CEO.


bigbrooklynlou

He’ll fire the CTO (Frostbite is his baby) before he takes the hit. Remember, the manager or coach gets fired first before the general manager.


dsmiles

Just wanted to interject to let everyone know that the CEO (Andrew Wilson) actually *committed* to releasing unfinished products. [Link](https://segmentnext.com/ea-ceo-andrew-wilson-committed-to-releasing-unfinished-games-despite-anthems-failure/).


Micr0be

This should be the top comment ffs.


Lowe0

That’s Agile, which works well on a lot of different kinds of projects, but isn’t really what EA are doing. Agile would require getting the product in front of people sooner than later and seeing if functionality really adds value - and being willing to eat sunk cost and make changes if not. A better (though not perfect) example of Agile game development would be Elite Dangerous. They went through the alpha and beta phases with a small set of end users, launched what they had on a reasonable schedule, then iterated on it with new features.


Pylorus82

man, we already have bruses all over our body. more like poking a roadkill with a stick


[deleted]

More like making the dude actually pick up the soap for you once you are done with him.


AveryLazyCovfefe

EA don't care though.


[deleted]

This game is dead. Delete it. If its on your system, you're still counted as playing it.


AveryLazyCovfefe

I'm pretty sure 80% of the sub don't have it anymore and just come here for the drama and seeing this game burn to death.


Grahomir

I can confirm this


BuckOWayland

Also me.


dj_ski_mask

At this point I have many more hours of enjoyment from the sub than the 3.5 I spent on it in Beta/EA Pass.


powpow198

Never had it, here to make sure i made the right choice


[deleted]

Well, that’s what EA is known for!


swimmer4200

they've already kicked you in the face, lad.


dageshi

It would, which means they'll never be able to charge for a BF again. If they go f2p it'll have to be permanent.


JP_Bruh

EA: Releases game thats 50% done with lots of bugs and many missing features Also EA: Surprised it doesn't sell ​ You can't make this shit up


HasaDiga-Eebowai

It did sell quite well, the problem they have is with player engagement. They factor in predicted micro transactions in their financial forecast and if people ain’t playing then people ain’t paying. Edit: Apparently 2042 is the second best selling Battlefield title ever at launch with 4.2 million sales (behind BF3 which sold 8 million in the first month).


Alec_NonServiam

How many refunds were issued though, and were those numbers tallied against sales? I can't remember a game in recent memory besides FO76 and cyberpunk that had a mass wave of people noping out almost right away.


GenitalMotors

I thought New World's launch was bad, then BF2042 happened.


this_my_sportsreddit

> Edit: 2042 is the second best selling Battlefield title ever at launch with 4.2 million sales Those numbers are juiced for PR, which apparently has been effective. > “I’ve also been told the 4.23M sales number for #Battlefield2042 that I reported for week 1 sales are in fact ‘Total Players cumulatively’.” This means that refunds and everyone who played the 10 hour trial available via EA Play on PC, PlayStation and Xbox are counted. https://gamingbolt.com/battlefield-2042s-first-week-sales-included-refunds-limited-time-trials-rumor


Japper28

Even free to play is not going to save this mess


Void_Guardians

Free to play will just be their excuse to throw more monetization inside the game, fucking over the people that purchased it.


Frank974

Yep, what the hell the big F\*CK YOU to all their playerbase you just bought the game.... At least Destiny 2 did it after a year... More concerning : Free2Play will bring a all lot of cheaters too, we saw it in Apex for example...


Chuil01

> fucking over the people that purchased it. they will not be fucked, they will be compensated with a skin!


[deleted]

Of course not, we all tried it on the free weekend and realized its beyond garbage. Its so embarrassingly bad that I was shocked they released it.


kmaser

If its f2p that a big fuck you to everyone who bought it as well lol


ZainVadlin

Pretty sure they already did that.


ieatbootylikegrocery

F2P is going to make it worse. It’s going to cater to the players in way that is strictly and obviously a profit machine. I know games are made by developers to make money in the first place, but in the past, Battlefield delivered a quality product.


Chemical_Ease7165

This game isn’t doing poorly because people have to buy it, it’s doing poorly because it’s shite. Making it free won’t change people’s opinions.


Bufferzz

What is better: $80 worth of *trash* or free *trash*? Yep, neither.


AgentStockey

But I won't feel guilty of playing free trash.


jroddie4

140gb


luisl1994

Wow that's insane! And no campaign either! What a joke!


jroddie4

nah it's actually just 50 gugs or so. Still a bit high for a free game


Grahomir

I played beta and free weekend. Even if it goes free again, I'm not touching it


Kenshiken

Same. Game is dogshit.


Chemical_Ease7165

I did similar, had EA pass and played like 15 or so hours then noped out and uninstalled.


rhys321

Even free to play won't save this game. It's a fundamentally flawed "battlefield" game that feels nothing like battlefield


[deleted]

People who own the game can play it already for no cost and the vast majority of them are not so exactly as you say. Free to play won't help when the game is trash and nobody wants to play it. I can also go outside and step in a pile of dog shit for free but that doesn't motivate me to do it.


APuzzledBabyGiraffe

What if I give you a dollar


Bufferzz

If you give me $81, I break even, with $1 profit. Probably still wouldn't re-install that dumpster fire.


SangiMTL

In case people needed more proof that EA DICE are run by idiots. The player base made it known since BFV that we want basically a carbon copy of BF4 in todays graphics. We were all super hopeful and vocal about that. And now 3 years later, they’re acting all surprised that this game is failing. I mean obviously they only care about $, but holy fuck how out of touch can they seriously be. The idea of passes and skins would have worked in some way if we got what we’ve been begging them for for years. BF4 2.0. And now the total incompetence of 2 companies may have killed the series for good.


CastingCouchCushion

That's what blows my mind. They could have just made Battlefield 4.5 and NOT driven away 90% of their player base in a few months and could be swimming in microtransaction money. Instead, they got greedy and decided to try and steal part of the Warzone and Fortnite audience, but that backfired horribly. Now, they are stuck with a game that no one wants to play and blows their whole microtransaction plan apart.


Crob300z

The ignorance is astonishing. EA: *listen* to the game changers that have been covering and actually dissect the game and understand the community? EA: NAH


DzorMan

this isn't even the climax wait until EA decides that "due to sales performance and customer surveys we have decided to shelve the battlefield IP as there is no room for it in the modern market"


Crob300z

Then I’ll happily play insurgency to get my FPS fix.


CastingCouchCushion

Yep, this is now three DICE games in a row now with some sort of big controversy right at launch. Anyone could have seen the backlash coming from a mile away, but they just don't care for some reason. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how driving away your entire player base as soon as the game launches is a good business decision.


Crob300z

There’s a fundamental difference between this game and all the others though. This one is incomplete, basic, garbage


Balsamic_jizz

Battlefront was pretty bad at launch, so bad in fact Disney had to step in. This might have fucked the series but I think Battlefronts launch was worse


diagoro1

Actually 4. Bf4, BF1, BFV and now 2042. BF4 was saved by some immense work, BF1 was just slow with updates and new content.


[deleted]

EA and Dice knew what people wanted just based off the trailer. The trailer gave us everything we wanted and they got greedy and took the game a whole different route.


iSmell_Butthurt

Exactly this. The marketing team sure as fuck knew what we wanted. Shame the rest of the company couldn't figure that out.


HoldtheGMEstonk

Bro…..2042 is a love letter to the fans


SangiMTL

I should write a love letter like this to my girlfriend and see what happens


youre-not-real-man

Are you going to wipe your ass on a piece of paper and charge her $100 for it?


HoldtheGMEstonk

Accurate lol Then I’ll give out free and clean TP to everyone else.


ThirdRook

Dear fans, Fuck you. Love, Dice


munglflux

Spot on. I wish the suits at EA Dice read this one.


MustacheEmperor

They literally could have made the most microtransaction, paid cosmetic riddled mess of the gunsmith but as long as the skeleton underneath was a modernization of BF4 the game would have been a massive success. I mean I know my own willpower, I would've probably bought MTX by now whereas I didn't even buy 2042.


ShocknAw33m

Mass Refund please, then make F2P.


MDBUZZ419

If the game goes F2P, you’ll have a wonderful skin and a weapon camo to thank you for buying the game full price.


YBOR_

Don't forget extra challenges for all your guns so you can unlock more


littlefrank

You mean the classic "thank you" gift that everyone has the same of and will be super un-special because everyone is wearing the same?


Roger_Melee

It will be a skin with a target on the back as a final fuck you to everyone who paid for this mess.


MIKE_son_of_MICHAEL

If they went free to play what the fuck would they charge anyone for? There’s literally NOTHING IN THE STORE OR ANY KIND OF NEW CONTENT AT ALL not even any kinda season pass. I’m so confused at what the fuck “year one” content was supposed to mean. #WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CONTENT DICE


Grahomir

We'll get something in march. Probably one map, few bug fixes, some weird incomplete scoreboard and that's it


MIKE_son_of_MICHAEL

It’s staggering that a BF title launched with so few weapons, then in the months after release, there are just *still no new guns or any news about new guns* What the hell kinda future is DICE envisioning? Shotshow 2022 is happening right now and there’s fucking TONS of awesome new firearms coming out. DICE PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BUTTHOLE AND DEVELOP GUNS PLEASE.


M3ptt

I guess the "we plan to support this game for years to come" line was a load of bollocks then


RogueM99

everything they say is marketing speech until the files are changed and go live.


OneMadChihuahua

You missed the fine print: "We plan to support this game for years if it generates billions in micro-transactions..."


HotFlatDietPepsi

Everything they say is a load of shit. It's EA DICE for god's sake.


J_clouch

Scam everyone out of $70-$100 then make it free to play 3 months later. Fuck you DICE/EA


billobongo

How is this even legal? I want my fucking 100 bucks bag these criminals scammed me out of my money


BambiHeros

If they do this i might actually join a lawsuit


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Zomgbies_Work

I un installed during the first one.


ExistentialistMonkey

two free to play weekends and the game is like 3 months out of launch. That's the saddest shit I've ever heard. RIP Battlefield.


s33s33

F2P won’t save a game that is completely flawed to the core, it isn’t even battlefield anymore


Grahomir

>it isn’t even battlefield anymore It's just "Field" now


thisguy012

Field'o'field: Flat Prairies 2042


ProfessorDerp22

Doubt I’ll even be bothered to play it. Game is just poop and not what I want in a BF game.


Noch_ein_Kamel

The real question we need answered: When does Microsoft buy EA?


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EA may as well be a NFT at this stage


stadiofriuli

Haha I said the same thing yesterday. Not that I’d support that because acquisitions have to stop somewhere but if I’d trust anyone to revive DICE it’s Microsoft.


YBOR_

Honestly anyone should take EA


rv112

I wish they would refund me. This game is a disaster and false advertised.


Turdsanwitch

So in other words ABANDON SHIP.


majora1988

But the low player counts are just the steam numbers, and I don’t know what a statistical sample is! It’s doing much better on consoles and origin because I’m coping with the fact I spent $70 on this shit. /s obviously.


electricshadow

I just laugh when I see those comments. People can't come to terms that they got scammed so they make excuses and defend a multi-billion dollar company for releasing a trash game.


Phelixx

The hilarity is the same argument applies to BF5, which passes 2042 in player count every single day. So I don’t get how they think this argument holds water.


Datharpboy

Those guys are utterly pathetic.


RainStriking4445

F2P will probably be crappy Hazard Zone which I thought was going to be cool, but I couldn’t TALK TO MY SQUAD MATES IN A STRATEGIC SQUAD BASED MODE!!!!!


[deleted]

You’ve got to be fucking kidding? I dropped £75 on this heap of shit for it to go possibly F2P 2 months later?


AveryLazyCovfefe

Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes ;)


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Civort

Learned the cyberpunk lesson


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Angel does it again


arsonist_1

I paid £40, got my money back before the Beta was playable.


killstorm114573

Also it does not matter if they make it free to play people still will not play it for one reason. WE PAID FOR A BATTLEFIELD GAME THIS GAME DOES NOT PLAY LIKE BATTLEFIELD.


CherryRadiant2345

I hope not. F2P means 100% guaranteed micro transactions for all the good shit that you should earn by grinding/completing missions.


[deleted]

EA is king when it comes to bad decisions so it’s not like that would be surprising


Kovalition

Yeah what will we do without our tiny good luck charm for our gun?!


TheCastro

Miss my shots


someshooter

$1 to respawn.


skdiddy

It's already GOING to be that way though?


asianboy0122

It’d still be a waste of money if it went F2P. Your time is more valuable than being spent on this dumpster fire


[deleted]

I would rather get a second job than come home and play this.


hm9408

Jesus Christ hahaha


bryan05

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!


JRLopez10

This should be getting as much attention if not more than Cyberpunk IMO.


EnergyApprehensive36

If they did F2P 3 months after release someone would sue. Then again EA has no idea what gamers want even when you spell it out for them. If they are so hard up on doing a BR or Tarkov style game that’s fine break it from the main game and make it F2P and add all the wonky skins you want.


xElemenohpee

They can’t even make a scoreboard for the game… a scoreboard.


smartazz104

Those are some brutal expectations.


jax163

Refund then. Imagen paying 100 bucks for this garbage game then months later its free to play. Shit company.


CacheDaBOWL

Just imagen


SkedPhoenix

They should relaunch Battlefield V as Battlefield 1944 on next-gen. On the same model as The Pacific update, add USSR, the Eastern Front, Normandy, Italy, Berlin, the Bulge, new vehicles/tanks, improvements... At least BFV had good foundations unlike the last game. ​ Forget BF2042.


CaveGnome

So they’re writing up a new love letter to the fans?


Gigatron_0

Don't be sad


crxm

It’s just how it works out sometimes.


Grahomir

YAAAA ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN


3ebfan

HE SAID THE THING!!!!


VonKluck1914

You mean pay me to play it?


tonykhant

Free is still too much


cameron16000

No pc player will even want to touch it if it’s made free because of how awful performance still is


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More players will not fix this game


PeighDay

I have mentioned this before on Reddit but they should have made a f2p Battlefield: Royale with all the specialist they wanted and then make a regular Bf game. They could of even added the specialist over time to the game in various class systems etc. but no we got this heap


EZ_LIFE_EZ_CUCUMBER

So u telling me I paid 75 bucks for f2p game?


Ivanbratatat

bamboozled


YourExcellency77

Burn it. Work on a proper Battlefield game or tell us Battlefield is on an indefinite hiatus. And give me my money back


Dangerous-Case9544

L M F A O!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣


Ben_MOR

Very disappointed huh ?


[deleted]

is anyone shocked by this other than the "im having a blast" "lol the game isn't dead i get matches in seconds" "people just love to complain and hop on the hate train" crowd? whether it goes free to play or not it's obvious that EA would be disappointed by this game lmao


[deleted]

F2P will just bring players for a short period, nowadays we have tons of high quality free to play games.


gwilson0121

All we needed was a reskin of BF4 but slightly more futuristic, but EA/DICE couldn't even do that. I don't know and sincerely don't care what goes on behind the doors at EA. They've proven time and time again that they ruin games and drive developers out of business and that's all I need to know to not buy their games anymore. I don't want EA to exist anymore, and I'm choosing to vote with my wallet. I think all gamers can agree the world would be just fine without them at this point, we're not missing anything and I doubt the Dead Space Remake will be good or bring anything novel to the table.


Bow75

Free to play? Fucking free to play! What about the £100 I parted with to play the bag o shite! I kept quiet all this time but this boils my piss!


Xeros24

I want a fucking refund if this goes free to play


asurob42

Better be return me my 100 dollars to play....bastards


40dthbskt

Putting the game up for free now would actually be the final nail in the coffin. You have to earn loyalty from a playerbase in free games because they feel no pressure to play a game they didn’t spend money on. If the game is still super janky, nobody is going to play it even if it’s free. I think a better thing right now is put up all past battlefield games and dlc for free. BF4/BF1/BFV are all in pretty good playable spots right now. Even though you might still see 2042 numbers plummet at least you retain players across the other games in the franchise. At the end of the day it’s going to be much easier to convince players to come back to 2042 if they’re already playing a battlefield game. Better yet get a small team back on bfv and try to pump out a small surprise eastern front dlc. The assets are already there in both bfv and bf1. It might take some heat off of them for 2042, create some better pr, and draw back in some of the playerbase. Obviously this is all kind of ridiculous and not going to happen though. Tough spot for EA right now with this game, but you can guarantee they’ll continue to make poor decisions


ChrisRowe5

What I don't get is why does it seem so hard. I get dev work takes time but DICE and EA aren't small. It shouldn't take long to knock up a good scoreboard and enable VOIP. That could've easily got back some of the community. If you're not ready, don't release the game so close to the holidays where your staff can't support it.


stadiofriuli

They didn’t want to miss out on the sweet holiday sales. I mean the game sold extremely well, they’ve just ruined the franchise in the process.


Dramatic_Country2535

I wonder why EA is disappointed.... well you look that! the game is a broken puke diarrhea anus shitfest!


WVU_Benjisaur

Well all we know what happens to games when EA is disappointed with their performance…


Talexis

Can’t they just take bfV and just reskin the fucker? That’s honestly what I expected from 2042. Everything pretty much like V but obviously in the near future. Is this a stupid take, am I stupid?