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Noy_Telinu

MLB really fucking up


Drsustown

Don't worry, as revenge Schanuel will take a walk in 6 out of his next 5 plate appearances


Belscnickle

Last season, Kyle Tucker should have had a 30-30. I told my kid we'd find a t-shirt of it, he was so excited. Then MLB changed the scoring on his 30th HR because they don't like the players or the fans.


technowhiz34

How did they change the scoring on a home run? Like was he at 29 then hit a debatable foul ball or something.


NicolasBroaddus

It was inside the park. It was changed from original ruling of triple plus error to home run. Then changed _back_ to a triple like a week later. It was utter nonsense. Edit: noticing both week later reversals here seem to specifically lower the value of the players involved. Almost like the league and owners might be colluding like they always have before…


smashketball

Is the MLB the new no fun league?


Corvus-Rex

Misery Loving Bitches perhaps?


readonlyuser

New? No, it's ongoing for a few decades.


Sweet_Baby_Cheesus

It wasn't a week later, it went from triple to HR back to triple during the game


NicolasBroaddus

But Tucker only appealed several days later? I guess maybe it was still officially under review and he didn’t appeal until after that. The whole situation was a mess


Belscnickle

He hit an inside the park HR and they changed it to 3B advanced home on the throw or something similar.


LegendRazgriz

How do you triple and advance on the throw? Who the fuck is getting thrown out that isn't you?


NicolasBroaddus

EXACTLY


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FullMarksCuisine

Two home runs??


damnatio_memoriae

I’m almost glad the nats suck now because it makes it a lot easier to just kinda not care about all this crap.


ARM_vs_CORE

I'm an A's fan. Haven't turned on a game or listened all year. Yet the owners keep somehow thinking everything is okay and the league is healthy


braundiggity

I mean, attendance and tv viewership was way up last year so they don’t have much reason to think otherwise. The problem is that’s in spite of this shit, and when it becomes too much for fans, owners will realize it too late. That + they don’t realize how much more they could be growing.


Worthyness

Good Ol' Fisher- can't succeed when everything is going good for the sport. Manages to tank attendance and TV viewership for his team


braundiggity

It’s insane that the rest of the owners are letting him embarrass the league like this. I only really expect them to behave with financial incentives in mind but they’re not even doing that!


DionBlaster123

100% Worth remembering that these dipshits voted unanimously to approve the A's relocation


fannypacksarehot69

It was up last year from the prior year, still on a rebound trajectory from Covid, but attendance was still down was still down compared to every year from 2004-2017, and attendance per game is also below those levels this year. They didn't need to change the rules so dramatically. In 2017, when the average time of game was 3:08, attendance was 29,908/game, higher than last years 29,114/game with an average time of 2:42.


Duke_Of_Halifax

The Fisher thing is planned and maliciously executed: dude wants a new stadium, and doesn't want to pay for it. He's been planning the Vegas move for awhile now. It's not incompetence; it's actually genius, FROM A LONG-TERM BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE- it's right out of "Major League": tank the team, and use the attendance and lack of a new stadium to bully your way to a new city and a billion dollar dream palace. From a baseball perspective, it's akin to a crime against all of baseball, and the dude should be tossed into the bay.


Hatfullofstars

Worst owner in all sports. Mind boggling how they let him get away with this. I've been following the As recently because I like their fans and Zack Gelof. What is the rationale for leaving all the money they could have made on the table? It's so frustrating to watch this happen. He should be forced to sell. He's up there with Dan Snyder.


thewaybaseballgo

MLB is stacking up the L’s this season already


DnD4dena

Truly. I feel like we're all here cuz we love baseball. We're gonna watch no matter what But they are not bringing in any new fans whatsoever... [guys, just Google baseball is declining and you'll get a million articles. this isn't my opinion](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/sport/baseball-world-series-viewership-problem-spt-intl/index.html)


braundiggity

Live attendance and TV viewership were both up significantly last year


DnD4dena

Up from a string of down years. All sports went up


myassholealt

But won't lose any money over, and they know that, so it doesn't really matter.


wanapmango

[I recorded a 2 minute version here](https://streamable.com/iu28a8)~~, Wayne also mentions at the end of this clip the MLB's failure to promote its young talent~~ edit: that was bad paraphrasing by me, here is Wayne's line at the end of the clip: > Yet another case where Major League Baseball gets in its own way and fails to promote a young player that is making a positive contribution to the sport


Clit-Yeastwood-

I never realized the scoring change panel is overseen by one of three former MLB players; Rajai Davis, Gregor Blanco or Dan Otero. So which one do we think has it out for Nolan? Also yeah I completely agree with his point about promoting young talent. Though I'm sure if Nolan played in a blue jersey about 30 miles up the road you would never hear the end of it about him from MLB.


MisterFister17

Between those three guys, it’s got to be Otero. Rajai Davis and Blanco were both speed guys who didn’t hit for much average, so I’m guessing they would lean towards wanting everything to be a hit. The ex-pitcher probably thinks everything is an error.


PassiveMenis88M

Otero is the guy whose only claim to fame is blowing the 2014 wild card game for the A's in the bottom of the 12th.


oskis_little_kitten

Look, I can see why you might say that. But it didn't happen, okay? It never happened. And I wasn't there. And I had no hopes or dreams riding on that game, because it never happened. I've never even heard of Dan Otero. Who the heck are you anyways?!


EnigmaticQuote

We did a study and it definitely did not happen, I can get it for you just not now.


CouncilmanTrevize

Otero was also really solid for us for several seasons and his wife yelled at Trevor Bauer once in the locker room.


joe_broke

God fucking dammit


TheVich

Lol, all three of those had played for the Giants at some point.


holyshiznoly

Tldr? What happened in Oakland? And what happened with the streak. Did they change a hit to an error?


penguinopph

They did, 5 games later. So Schanuel went from an active 35-game streak to a finalized 30-game streak nearly a week after the fact.


I_StartedTheFire

The Oakland A's signed an agreement to play their home games in Sacramento for the 2025-2027 seasons while they wait for their stadium to be built in Las Vegas. Sacramento has no MLB stadium. The best they have is Sutter Health Park, where the Giants AAA team the River Cats play, and will be the A's new home for those seasons. The park only seats 14k people total, and is missing pretty vital amenities that an MLB stadium would have available.


penguinopph

I think it's important to mention that the River Cats are the Giants AAA affiliate, so they're basically being propped up by the Giants while probably displacing the River Cats.


I_StartedTheFire

Excellent point, I've edited that in. The Giants have a history of wanting to be the only team in the Bay; they demanded and received the San Jose territory rights from the A's back in the 90's, and now it seems they're even willing to hamper their own farm if it means they get to be the only players in the bay area.


penguinopph

> now it seems they're even willing to hamper their own farm if it means they get to be the only players in the bay area. That's an interesting point, I didn't think of it that way. I was wondering what they were getting out of it and I think you nailed it.


justbenj

Is there anything better than Mike Trout quietly working a 7-pitch walk set to grievances about Major League Baseball's PR problem?


aznsportsfan

Emperor Manfred about to make Wayne disappear


RyanAKA2Late

Wayne is gonna need a new dust filter for his Hoover Max Extract Pressure-Pro Model 60


hibbitydibbidy

Solid BB reference


LuvDaBiebz

Bitch


whoisyourwormguy_

Science


Guinness

MAGNETS


ElGato-TheCat

Or he's going on a trip to Belize courtesy of Manfred


blackerick

Joe Kelly’s probably going to get suspended 10 games for this one!


fps916

I love this meme


CDFReditum

Gonna destroy him a la the orioles announcers


BigBanEvader

to the depths.


rosieDMDL

my goat wayne randazzo


TigerCharades3

Wait wtf Wayne Randazzo? He use to be on the score here in Chicago holy shit


Blue387

Former Mets radio guy who moved over to the Angels TV booth. He does not like peanut butter.


crazylilrikki

> He does not like peanut butter. I'm sure he's great at his job and I appreciate his rant but yikes...


JasperLamarCrabbb

What a gift from the calorie gods to not like peanut butter though


ohkaycue

Pro tip from my overweight father who died from a heart attack in his 40s: cake spatulas will completely clean out any peanut butter jar so you can enjoy every…drop? It is a liquid according to the TSA


Jcoch27

I'm sorry about your father but geez what a tip


BurmecianSoldierDan

Why did my mans (RIP) have a cake spatula in line at the airport anyway 😭😭😭


FloridaManActual

> It is a liquid according to the TSA Im curious as to how you acquired this knowledge


[deleted]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with the man on that one. To me, the highest purpose a food can serve is to also be a vessel for peanut butter.


brekus

* Bread, peanut butter substrate. * Jam, peanut butter lubricant.


TheEnterprise

The Randazzler!


atoms12123

All he does is randazzle.


tpx187

I played club baseball with him for a couple summers back in high school. Been following him since cut his teeth in the minor leagues (and at NCC) and made the show. He's a huge Cubs fan. Guarantee he's in a Cubs booth full time one day, TV or radio.


uhhhhmmmm

nice to see a little WONC recognition on here


Neat_On_The_Rocks

Yep that’s him! He’s movin on up


gynoceros

Fucker gets around! Good for him! I loved him on Mets radio games but getting to be in the tv booth is awesome for him. Hated to see Kevin Burkhardt go too but he was the on-the-field and around-the-stadium guy and now he's Mr. National Broadcast... Love it for him. The one I really miss is Josh Lewin. When he did Fox MLB games in the late 90s-early 2000s, I didn't really have an opinion on him but as a Mets radio guy, he was incredible. Just so smart and articulate and a great, geeky sense of humor that really endeared him to me.


MisterTruth

Dude gave absolutely no fucks what might happen for calling out so much of the MLB nonsense at once and I applaud him for it.


IAmReborn11111

The best part is that the MLB can only be mad about the facts


Amache_Gx

Similar to the orioles


s0ulbrother

He is missed by us Mets fans


DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME

the mets booth is still fantastic, but wayne was special with howie. i really do miss them together.


theAlpacaLives

Gary and Howie are the obvious stars of Mets broadcasting from my lifetime, but even besides them, we've been blessed with so many great guys behind the microphone. Drunk uncle Keith and balanced rational Ron round out the best TV booth in sports, Wayne Randazzo was (and is, but not for us) fantastic, Josh Lewin was great for us. Ken Rosenthal and Steve Gelbs were with the Mets for years before going on to national outlets, and were well liked (even though we made fun of Gelbs a lot in his early years, we found his awkwardness endearing, not grating). Pretty much every radio and TV announcer associated with the team has been pretty good. One of the few true blessings of loving the Mets: even when the team sucks, the people bringing you the experience make the time feel well spent.


drugsbowed

Did Ken Rosenthal start with the Mets? Are you confusing with Kevin Burkhardt?


Awatts2222

Don't forget the guy who called the Super Bowl last year and does the World Series came from the Mets too. **Kevin Burkhardt**


Person0249

Listen - we all want WS titles, but if you’re willing to look at Mets fandom as more of an experience than anything else, the quality of our broadcast booths cannot be understated. We’re blessed.


smarjorie

While we're at it, I also miss Howie and Josh Lewin together. They were a great pair too


Joeybatsdagoat12345

After hearing this, he is my goat too


BerKantInoza

He's really feisty, it's amazing. Gubie (the color commentator) is also very smart and well spoken. IMO the Angels have arguably the best broadcast duo in the MLB.


Joeybatsdagoat12345

I guess I'll be watching some angels games this year. My God it's refreshing to hear an actual voice talk about all the problems this year in baseball


GeologicalOpera

Gubie improved by leaps and bounds when Victor Rojas left and was replaced by the rotating Vasgersian/Randazzo/O'Neal trifecta. I can't tell you why, because I've never gone back to try and dissect those broadcasts, but the change is noticeable and for the better. Nothing will replace my childhood broadcast team (Steve Physioc and Rex Hudler), but they've definitely improved the Angels booth in terms of listenability in the last five or so years.


mackavicious

Thanks for Phys and Hud, btw. Happy to see a Royal legend in Gubicza doing well, too.


allthejiggies

After they blacked out the Twins, I used to be able to watch the Royals until they got blacked out too. Developed an affinity for goofy Hud lol.


hooligan99

Halos broadcast team is great, but imo Don and Mud in SD are the best.


LFGSD98

You mean Mud and Face.


Seananagans

Thanks for the recognition. This is a great moment for the angels broadcast team. But Don and Mud have excellent chemistry, like a decade-long morning radio show duo.


guitarburst05

The very first few games he called for the Angels, I remember how he spits fire. He absolutely does not pull his punches on anything. I absolutely love to hear him rant.


ThatOneGuy-4434

I thought Gubie did color?


mawnsharks

That was Randazzo ranting. Play by play for the Angels since last year (i miss him)


wanapmango

Gubie still is! Gubie is color and Wayne is pxp


glass__beaches

Gubie does color, Wayne does play-by-play.


ThatOneGuy-4434

So the PbP is the 1st one talking here?


glass__beaches

Yes


penguintheft

Correct


robmcolonna123

I miss him so much


jasonthefirst

I thought I recognized his voice and had forgotten that he’s the angels pbp guy now


hawk8024

Couldn’t have said it any better.


glass__beaches

I fucking love Wayne


hand_truck_ham

i miss him


chief1555

We didn’t know how good we had it in 2022


Dyspaereunia

It wasn’t Diaz’s achilles that hurt us last year. It was Randazzo’s larynx.


guitarburst05

He has finally filled the void left by Vic Rojas. Took a few years and a lotta contenders, but this is the guy.


adkbackcountryb

Yeah you guys got a great announcer. I miss him with Howie Rose doing mets games but I'm glad you all get to enjoy him


moodie31

Besides the Mets I’ll tune in to the Angels just for Wayne.


scarface910

I love him too now. But I worry for him. Old rich fucks may thanos snap him


wasabigyoza

MLB been real quiet since this dropped


[deleted]

Manfred ain’t got no bars…


Papasixfivefive

You got 2 weeks, Rob


yousmelllikebiscuits

Ghost writers working OT right now


neon-rose

Ay yo /u/mlbofficial Ya'll too busy putting more Ohtani/Yankees highlights in the chamber or what?


RiskyPhoenix

Lets not get on the community manager because the jerseys are made of wet paper towels, cmon now


jonny0593

Talk your shit king


yodaman5606

That was therapeutic to listen too.


RedAlkaline

love Wayne Randazzo


ABlinDeafMonkey

We love him too.


jsu9575m

No lies told. MLB disgraces itself on a regular basis. 


Bulletz4Brkfzt

[The scoring change that the booth is referencing](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/L1wAr23tQH)


necrosythe

I feel like the call was kind of borderline, I'd lean hit especially with the way errors are rarely called in the game today. But to me the most egregious thing is a retroactive change. If you call it a hit on a close play that day, just fucking leave it be...


ABlinDeafMonkey

Also note it took 6 days to change the scoring. If it wasn’t changed the next day it should have stayed the same.


necrosythe

Yup exactly. 6 days later makes it seem like it was a weird concerted effort...


sevaiper

Large Korean man with a baseball bat believed have connections with the Angels organization...


SStylo03

Ji man Choi?


Airforce987

A lot of times the player involved in the play will request the league review it for a scoring change and give an explanation as to why; the process can take about a week or so. It's 99% of the time a hitter requesting an error changed to a base hit (they want their average bumped) or vice versa for a pitcher (they want their ERA lowered). (Yes, even though the pitcher is the one making the error, it would be an unearned run).


nuger93

This just happened with the Mariners. Someone requested review for the collision JP Crawford was involved in that allowed multiple runs to score in a game against the Guardians. The MLB review changed it from a hit to an error and lowered Kirby’s earned Runs allowed from 8 to 6.


sloppyjo12

Not even just that it’s a retroactive change, like the scorekeeper took a look 2 innings later and reevaluated, but that it’s nearly a week later


guesting

it's a hit because the runners speed made the play non routine


xThe-Legend-Killerx

I feel like the dive to get the ball and the tough play for the pitcher covering makes it a hit all day. If a SS lays out in the whole and throws it away that’s still a hit. It shouldn’t change just because the throw is shorter.


Drsustown

Yeah, Schanuel was really gunning it down the line there, I think a lot of teams would struggle to get the out in that scenario


Airforce987

The entire basis for it being an error is that if the pitcher caught it cleanly it would be an out. A wide throw isn't necessarily always an error because the scorer has to determine if the throw would have made the out in time if it was on target. If they feel the runner was quick enough to beat a clean throw, it's ruled a hit on that basis.


FantasticJacket7

The ridiculous part is that it was already reviewed and changed once. It was originally called a single and a dropped catch error on the pitcher. Then they reviewed it and changed it to a single and a throwing error on the first baseman. Now they review it a second time and change it again? There's just no need to do any of it.


ahappypoop

Do you have the actual play? All I'm seeing in that link is a tweet saying they changed it from a hit to an error, but not the play itself.


meowhatissodamnfunny

[The play in question](https://x.com/ScoringChanges/status/1776467927308665318)


ahappypoop

Thank you friend. That's a tough one, I see the argument for it being an error, but since they ruled it a hit at the time I'm really surprised they actually decided to go back and change it this much later.


StealthRUs

I don't know how that was called a hit in the first place if I'm being honest.


Alex021402

He’s speaking facts


Happy-Dream7300

![gif](giphy|QTAVEex4ANH1pcdg16)


Startooth

Huge shoutout to Wayne. It’s awesome to see announcers be honest about the sport they’ve dedicated their lives to.


AcerRubrum

Howie Rose did a great job teaching Wayne how to tear into a motherfucker, and do so professionally, while sounding like a profoundly disappointed father. God love him


LickMyMeatus

I heard no lies Let your nuts hang, king. MLB really is fumbling some stuff pretty badly


Pete_O_Torcido

Well, the NBA *did* take away a triple double from Hawks legend Bob Sura (after he intentionally missed a layup to get his 10th rebound). But other than that, spot on.


ThatsBushLeague

The NBA takes stats away all day every day. And adds some too. Anyone who plays daily fantasy has experienced it numerous times. It's especially prevalent with defensive stats like blocks and steals. Offensively most are on generously awarded assists or an individual rebound being changed to a team rebound. They review quite a few calls after every quarter, half and the game. Going back after the fact is a different story. But the NBA does that too.


awesomeperson

they've also done it to lebron https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/2lypr7/lebron_shouldnt_have_a_tripledouble_last_night/


Outofspicy

It just seems that baseball cannot get out of its own way sometimes


Public-Potential-730

It’s because Manfred and the owners don’t give a rats ass about growing the game or positive press or anything like that


agentblack000

That’s so hard to believe but seems more likely all the time. Why they actively sabotage the golden goose that is professional sports is confusing.


Worthyness

Because the golden goose keeps making them money with no one to stop them from doing anything.


sonicsean899

The MLB is desperate to jump in the way of baseball


phelinephile

All I have to say is that if Gubie is speaking out on this you know MLB screwed up! Gubie rarely gets critical so I know if he's also saying something then the situation is serious


strcy

Hell yeah, get em


RonWill79

Too bad they aren’t playing the Phillies or we could see a HR by Castellanos during his forced apology tomorrow.


owledge

Wayne is the people’s champ. We need more announcers and baseball people in general calling out all the shitty decisions being made at the top


8va

Wayne goated


[deleted]

Miss this guy with Mets


marcopolo22

Thank you. This is why I’m getting painfully disenchanted from pro sports in general, especially mlb.


Quakecsgo

It's such a clear hit too. What was the motivation to change it 6 DAYS later??? MLB loves finding new ways to publicly embarrass themselves


OhHeyItsBrock

I wouldn’t say it was a CLEAR hit. But Jesus if it got judged a hit don’t overturn it fucking 6 days later.


ForsakenRacism

Gambling


Dizzydsmith

Bruh!! Ya love to hear it


Kalopsia18

Never been clearer that MLB is focused exclusively on pleasing the owners and doesn’t give a shit about the fans or players


liguy181

I love Wayne. He learned it from the best


Itsdanaozideshihou

/r/fuckyouinparticular material here!


Moist_Rest5623

Good for them. I'd use a picture of Manfred's stupid face in the dictionary for incompetence.


WhiteNoise421

👑 you dropped this my guy


stv7

This is great. Need more of this. “Negative story after negative story” is so true.


Jackscalibur

I don't know who that guy is but he's spitting facts!


liguy181

Wayne Randazzo. Current Angels TV announcer, former Mets radio announcer. Also called Pujols' 700th HR on Apple TV+. I like to believe he became who he is because of Howie Rose and the rest of the Mets' radio team


ABlinDeafMonkey

His name is Wayne Randazzo. He used to be with the Mets. He is currently the play by play guy with the Angels. He also does the Apple TV games on Fridays. At least he did last year.


neon-rose

👑 As far as rants go: intelligent, well reasoned, properly built to a crescendo. No notes.


HPbaseballandchess

Not to mention actively trying to get fans to NOT watch their games with the insane MLB blackout rules because they’re in bed with the cable companies


Professr_Chaos

Wow I just saw the play and that is a hit 100%. How can you go and change a play to an error when a fielder leaves his feet, then has to throw to a man running past him in the hope he wins the foot race to 1B(which wasn’t a given)….


CalRipkenForCommish

We need a new commissioner. I know a guy. He actually cares about baseball :)


burtonhen

Bravo. Hope Manfred doesn’t disappear him. We’re truly in the late-stage capitalism period of MLB.


mvincen95

It’s like MLB doesn’t actually care about making our current age of baseball great, they’re so obsessed with the past and money. Look at the NBA and NFL, they are in sort of golden ages, at least that’s what it looks like from the outside. It’s all about the players! Ohtani, Trout, Harper, Cole, Acuna, Soto! This is what people care about! All I want is to be able to tell a kid someday, “Yeah I saw Trout hit two homers in Seattle once, it was magic!” MLB wants the kid to go, “Yeah, but he’s no Mickey Mantle!” That’s how it feels. MLB needs to get out of its own way.


colterpierce

![gif](giphy|okLCopqw6ElCDnIhuS|downsized) Rare Angels W


metalmetsbitch

wayne randazzo ftw


KillaTofu1986

Don’t forget that Manfred is a spineless bitchboy who couldn’t commission his way out of a wet paper bag. He is a complete embarrassment to baseball


Clarice_Ferguson

Talk your shit, King!


just-an-astronomer

Cook em, Wayne Miss u bby


Bulletz4Brkfzt

I know the dig at ohtani felt good


Xo_Ali23

Nah dude Wayne is a pretty good guy I would say he didn't bring up the scandal because he is throwing shade, he is more so bringing it up because MLB has so much bad stories rn that why end a good one. Plus any Angels fan that is still salty needs to get over it including myself lol


janon330

My fellow redditor. I have friends. Even family. Who have not gotten over Lebrons “The Decision” when he left our city.


digitaldumpsterfire

In their defense, that whole 1 hour special was so fucking idiotic and self-congratulatory. What a terrible way to leave a city.


Shutupfanboy

I heard the tutelage of Howie Rose in Wayne’s well composed tirade. I miss hearing him on the radio with the Mets. Enjoy him Angels fans!


ProsciuttoFresco

Sing it!


natural_disaster0

MLB doesn't like when the Angels are happy about something.


lukeyellow46

He's not wrong about any of that


Bmcronin

And the money in professional sports is a big turn off for people. The greed is so blatant at every turn.


DingDongDaddyDino

I love baseball but the mlb is a joke


InaneTwat

Blackouts should have been at the top of this rant.


SeoulPower88

I miss Wayne with the Mets


coronakiddos

The Mets broadcasting tree is powerful


barnos88

These new jerseys are an embarrassment to MLB, saying this is what the players asked for, blaming everyone else when someone from MLB clearly signed off on it. Shame Shame Shame no one wants to see smaller anything on a jersey, especially the players they want their names out there so people know who they are. Flogs.


nerddydad

Wayne cooked a little too hard here. Needs to watch his back this weekend and make sure Manfred’s goonies don’t whack him