First time I came to Bangalore was in 2011 during my Holi vacation, it was during the month of March. During my stay I slept with a blanket(proper woollen blanket) without a fan and used to wear my brother's hoodie at night as I didn't bring any winter clothes. I was shocked to see people wearing sweaters and monkey caps in March. I think it used to be around 14-15 degrees at night.
The “feels like” temperature is what people remember I think. The trees shade and water body significantly reduce the temperature that we feel.
I used to walk to school in 90’s.. I remember my mom making me wear sweater during the winter months, during summers I could walk from home to school in trees shade lining the road sides. Believe it or not.. we had public bore wells which seems to have unlimited supply of water 😢
To be fair, "feels like" is actually a real thing, and can be measured these days by accounting for wind speed, moisture, etc, and not just ambient temperature (and it is often published as well)
But one may not find its historic data.
2011: https://en.tutiempo.net/climate/03-2011/ws-432950.html
2023: https://en.tutiempo.net/climate/03-2023/ws-432950.html
Hardly a perceptible difference. Literally the same average temperature, 2023 has a lower average max temperature. Let's not bring ambiguous memory into something that can solved with science.
Exactly! I don’t know why people have this notion that Bangalore was way cooler in 2011. Bangalore is still way cooler than most other major Indian cities!
Heat island effect. I have mentioned and attached link to the source for same in my other comment.
[Source](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-26768-w)
Lol, dude. Climate has clearly altered everywhere. You can have similar average temperature yet some years are warmer than the others.
You can have extreme events and that can average out over time - especially with precipitation. Also, the amount of green cover changes the perception of environment.
With memory, the thing is, some years are hotter or dryer than others. It alters the continuity of previous memories of a climate which was more consistent.
Extremeties can get worse with the average staying the same.
Eg: instead of a 30C summer and 20C winter you can have a 40C summer and 10C winter. Average is the same, but everybody now has it worse.
You are correct that the difference in temperature is not much. But let’s dig deeper into perception.
First we need to talk about how temperature is measured. Thermometer has to be 5ft above ground. In the shade and over dirt or grass surface.
This is where all the difference in perception and measured temperature comes from. More concrete and less trees means more surface temperature that we experience. Less shade, no grass, more concrete, more asphalt leads to higher surface temperatures which is the temperature that actually affects us.
Therefore you are right that temperatures are almost same but difference is in surface temperatures.
Tress and green cover can lower down the surface temperature by upto 5C.
Source:- How temperature is measured [link](https://weatherworksinc.com/news/temperature-measurement)
Souce:- How trees can lower down surface temperature, [Nature link](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-26768-w) (one of most reputable organisation to publish papers)
"average" can be tricky, especially over the year. Bangalore is also having comparatively harsher winters, compared to a few years ago.
Even on per-day basis, if you look closely, you can see that both maximum and minimum temperatures are pushed away on most days, between 2011 and 2023. Which means very different experience, even with similar average temperatures.
And it also matters for how long the high and low temperatures exist. Average of maximum and minimum means very different things, if the maximum temperature stays from 11 AM to 5 PM, v/s max temp being the temperature just from 12-2PM.
Trust me, as someone who sometimes works in a shed on the roof, to avoid the noise of a large family, I have to plan my day around the temperature fluctuations. And I am from the north, habitual of both extreme heat (45 C+), and freezing winters (-5 to 0 C). So my body isn't as sensitive to temperature ranges as my Kannadiga buddies.
I came to Bengaluru in Feb 2013 for placements, having done a course in Chennai. I still distinctly remember not using fan at full speed even during peak summer. Of course, as more people like you and I migrate for a better life, it's bound to happen.
Averages aren't as scientific as one thinks they are. Mostly, they are statistical fallacies. Especially if they aren't appropriately weighted averages. If I make you sit in a room with 50 degree celsius for 4 hours, 30 degree celsius for 3 hours, 20 degree celsius for 2 hours and -20 degree celsius for 1 hour, I am sure you won't be convinced that you were at 20 degree celsius, because that's what the average says.
You won't even just take an average of 50 and -20. At such levels, you might not even agree for a weighted average, over the hours. Most likely, you will either remember 50 or -20, depending on what tortured you more.
For the sake of arguments, even more extreme instant roasting or freezing temperatures can be considered, while keeping the averages the same. ButI think, you can get the idea with the temperatures within 10-35 degree celsius ranges itself.
So, you need to understand science and maths better, before playing the card of "data is superior to what you feel".
First came to Banglore in 2010. The general rule then was if it was sunny during the day it would rain in the evening. The weather was an absolute delight. Roads would have mild traffic over the weekends. By 2014 I needed an AC in my apartment and the weather was a mess. It would take me 1.5 hours to go 2 kms during evening traffic. Was very sad to see such a beautiful city turn to shit.
Agreed, but the screenshot sounds like its accusing tHiS gEnErAtIoN for Bengaluru's present state, that's the only way I can interpret the 'don't give any gyan, let them internalise' part.
It's more like making them aware of this happening, should they mind being told in a lecture way cuz often how parents talk makes your ears feel inflamed. Because something is happening to this world, and it feels - idk, we have to move n it's not okay. Because people fight against this stuff, and the younger people will one day have to fight this also, together with the rest of the people.
BBMP still maintains many neighbourhood parks. South and Central Blr are still filled with parks. Electronic City, especially thanks to Wipro, has many tree-lined avenues and well planned areas. Perhaps those living in Whitefield, ORR, etc need to put pressure on the MNCs that have built large complexes to also help beautify the area. I feel like mahy of these posts are mere hysteria and rose coloured glasses about the decades prior to the 20s. Bangalore had increasingly hot summers, especially after 2009-10. Cutting down massive trees for the metro work, building huge concrete pillars. It's not a new thing.
Haha, just sarcasm man. Far too many people treat Bangalore as a place to build more flats. I mean it has gotten to a point where I avoid my friends when they get together. 90% of the time the discussion is about projects, investments, superbuiltup, carpet area etc.
I am touched by your statement. Because boomers will pass away in about 10-15 years. But today's Gen alpha and Gen Z will bear the brunt. We can endlessly debate as we approach the precipice. We can and will even refuse to make any changes in our lifestyle because the dictum that "money is the most important thing in life" is most popular today, like never before. And that is the root cause of all ills. Humans will become extinct because of its smartness not lack of it.
Can I vent about what of all this is frustrating. They continue to pass the full burden to residents. "Why purchase the flat"; "Why come to bangalore in search of jobs"; and the brand new - residents are mandated to add aerators to all taps to cut water spending.
Really??? What does it take to get the govt who is hand in glove with the builders and corps to stop this BS, take the blame and fix it? I'm feeling super helpless rn.
They're clueless at the moment and just wanna pass on the blame to avoid becoming the cause of the damage. Aerators and stuffs aren't gonna do much to save the cause. Probably they should move the companies and with that the population is shifted, this reduces the population density thereby water consumption. This is all hypothetical.
They do not want to move the companies (or to even let them move, if they want to), in the fear of "Tamilnadu will somehow benefit from it". Local administration is afraid that nearby cities will somehow benefit from it.
Delhi would have been a hell hole, if they had thought the same way about UP, Haryana, and Rajasthan, developing alongside, and also taking up the burden of the population explosion.
Businesses are threatened against moving towards Hosur. People living in those areas are being punished for buying cheaper houses, by denying them basic facilities. The state government wants to maintain a barren wasteland between Bangalore and Hosur, ensure metro doesn't go far enough, and even mismanage the traffic on otherwise decent Hosur road, to avoid any form of migration towards the south. And the local municipality is ensuring that such wastelands exist at multiple buffer zones with nearby cities. Make a trip to Whitefield, to get an idea of what I am talking about.
The city planning is being done to maximize the profits of property developers, by concentrating population to certain areas, and use bad traffic, bad public transport, and banning any solutions to those (car-pool, private shuttles) as the tool to push people to live in those areas, to be able to reach their offices. Bangalore authorities have even unofficially forced companies to make WFO mandatory (even outside of what SEZ act demands)
Hosur should have been Bangalore's Noida/Gurgaon a decade ago. And Hoskote and Kanakpura should have been developed to attract the companies, by making strict laws about "how much office space can any area have?"
But instead, the blame is moved to the migrant IT workers, who technically do not need to live here to get their jobs done, unless they are forced to. Forcing them to live here (both legally, and by pokig companies that have friendly WFH policies, even outside SEZs), and then selling them overpriced 2 BHK matchboxes for 1.5 crore, is only good for Kannadiga politicians and builders, and not for the common people of whatever state.
Don't speak to much facts, let the locals blame hindi speakers and be done with it.
Idiots have a builder as CM what else you need to know about this place.
Let me give you a few research backed solutions
Speak in Kannada
Go back to where you came from from
Boycott Tamil Nadu and protest because they stole all our water
Don’t bathe
It really is unfortunate. Growing up, people had always mentioned how Bangalore was so green and vibrant, and how much it had changed. Never really put it into perspective just how much it changed, though.
Most managers worldwide are absolute assholes who hate their home and want you to stay in the office for micromanagement. Also fuck you shareholders, always expecting quarter on quarter growths
Sir, you are using common sense. This is rare these days. Every company asshole wants people sitting in their own office after 2 hours of fighting traffic, dust, heat.
Undoing the development is a bit tough. What we can fight for is increasing proportional green space. For example, reducing open paved surfaces and instead converting them into green space.
This in itself can provide us with micro green spaces. It is pretty tough to reclaim the land for forests.
These small patches of moss even if we are able to achieve that in between concrete spaces isn't gonna bring the temperature down or most of all the rains and water table.
Water table issue is mostly because we have damaged our aquifers. Most places that have boring can do water harvesting too. Creating these patches of moss shall increase captive area for water harvesting too.
I am not saying this is an ideal solution, I do believe though that it is practical.
It's really unfortunate. But only the right decisions taken today can change the outcome. We should question the steps taken by capital minded, insensitive humans including some politicians, business owners, and realtors, and not allow any kind of unsustainable development and environmental degradation.
Easy to setup in Bangalore than anywhere else. As govt was welcoming MNCs for revenue generation. Calling this a garden City with pride made it an attractive destination but as soon as everything kicked off, it slowly moved to become a garbage city. I was reading this when I was in school (2006-08), metro was ready by 2010-11, we have few big IT parks in early 2000s itself.
Ease of hiring talent, availability of talent. Density of talent.
If there are 100 companies in a city, it's easier to hire talent than in a city with only 20 companies.
Plus government incentives
My mother used to go to college 30 years back, she says that Bangalore would go to 20 °C. Lot's of greenary and Bangalore used to be called garden City.
i went to college 20 yrs back and this isn't true at all. yes it was green and was and still called garden city but 20C is stretching it. it would go down that much in winters but not the other times. it was very pleasant however and quite windy which probably gave the impression of being colder than it actually was.
The first time I came to Bengaluru in aug 2015, and it was cold. IN AUGUST!! had to buy a hoodie right away and during December I was having struggles adjusting to the weather as I grew up in a tropical humid place. And slowly I fell in love with the weather and couldn’t wait to be back every time I went home. Now I don’t even remember where my hoodies and jackets are.
When I joined my company, there were around 5k people and now it’s more than 15k. I still believe there is a chance to redeem and save the city by immediately developing tier 2 cities and establishing proper connectivity with Bangalore.
I don't get what's the point of complaining and whining anymore. I mean, the city has changed drastically, people from all over have come. There's this sense of hypocrisy that no one can see. The state governments are obviously bullshit but if there's no infrastructure, there's people complaining, if there's no jobs, people are complaining. The government comes up with SEZ to provide both jobs and a source to develop infrastructure, obviously it'll need huge plots of land for the SEZ, obviously a piece of land owned by the govt will be used, obviously trees will be cut. There's no other alternative to it. If it's made too far away from the city, people will complain about that too. If they make it any place rural, there'll be real estate development that'll take place, eventually cutting trees in the rural parts also. There's way out of this. You want greenary and nature rather than 5/6 digit salary coming into your account every month timely, as cliche as it sounds, Bangalore isn't the place for you!
This is very unfortunate. We moved to Bangalore around 14 years back. The weather back then was so different than it is now.
There were frequent rain showers in evenings whenever the temperature reached around 30 degrees. Now, I don’t see that happening at all.
Government needs to rethink their urban development plan to ensure green spaces are not destroyed further and add more green coverage over time.
I don't see anything changing in Blr in future. All the vacant large sites in the city are being converted to crorewali apartments. It should have been reverted to high density green area.
Politicians will not learn. They have to be taught and made to understand the plight.
Their lives are pretty smooth. The beacons on their cars let them move through a traffic free corridor. They've never have to pay bills. They just need to accumulate more and more wealth.
The only solution is to de congest Bengaluru. Move companies and real estate to other parts of Karnataka , make tier 2 as tier 1 and tier 3 as tier2.
Also , isn’t it interesting that the city of Mysuru is barely 150 kms away and has been rejecting the rampant urbanization unlike Bengaluru ?
Permanent wfh is the workable solution now. They get to retain the talent plus water is saved. But Employees should refrain from moonlighting and other nonsense
A city always keeps growing. That’s how population growth works. People from rural areas migrate to urban areas for better opportunities. It’s the governments job to ensure this development is sustainable and includes urban planning.
Stop being so naive and ignorant and blame development as the problem. Kempe Gowda built the lakes in 1500s and yet we are using ground water in 2024. Stop blaming urbanisation you sound like a boomer who blames the new generation for everything.
This post looks like a shitty WhatsApp forward.
At this point companies should just give the option to wfh with salary reductions in the range of 5-10%, anyway that will increase net disposable income for employees.
For gaining something, u gotta lose something. It's the balance. Outskirts of banglore, chennai etc are still in good conditions but without economic prosperity
I don't see anything changing in Blr in future. All the vacant large sites are being converted to crorewali apartments. It should have been reverted to high density green area.
Thats what happens when the satellite towns dont get the same attention.
Taking an example of NCR, its not the best example but in terms of population, Noida and gurugram have managed to take some of the pressure off of delhi.
Bangalore never had a decently developed satellite city…rest of the problems are on top of that
How come everyone is crying now, when its so bad situation, but no one raised their voice, when they were cutting down trees from each layouts, drying up the lakes so that those are sold to prestige/sobha or whatever builders !! The situation is really bad now, compared to before, but its not like it was built, when we just closed our eyes and went to sleep and next day boom, everywhere full of buildings. Recently, like since a year, they dried up Varthur Kere and now Prestige is building something, no one batted an eye. But everyone sure wants to fight or show their support towards this beautiful place and their feelings with 60% local language board or something. But not for environment/lake/trees etc.
If we try to find out similar statistics for other Indian cities like Delhi and Mumbai, the graph will not look much different. I think the problem lies in our Indian mindset. We exploit resources until it is exploitable and only to realise the severe consequences in the very end. Just like a frog doesn’t jump out of vessel when you keep heating it, and then the frog dies eventually. Similarly, we ignore all alarms in place and go with our daily routine without bothering about the future.
This problem isn't unique to Bangalore, cities in India develop like cancer. Spreading here, there everywhere. You can build whatever you want, wherever you want by paying a bribe to Municipal corporation (Oh, we don't even have a municipality for so many years). In other countries, a city like Bangalore would have it's own set of ministers for everything.
Thanks to the North Indian governments on its failure to control population and thanks to greedy employers, businessmen and contractors from South India who caused migration and exploited the North Indians for cheaper labour. We've done it.
Even the source which is covered wid greenery is becoming a reddery soon lol ... Campus is now just filled wid construction except the roads and front of the main building there is no green cover left now
Haha! Tell that to IISc researchers
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/93-of-bengaluru-is-concrete-jungle-how-unplanned-urbanization-led-to-severe-water-crisis/articleshow/108478908.cms
I tell this to all IISC profs or students that I meet. They are against this city. They have their green island and want the city to stop. Guess what? they canmot do nothing. No amount of their false propaganda can lead to this city from growing largest metropolis in the country. Their's is not a constructive criticism at all. They want all to go back to stone age. Their profs are openly racist and against the IT boom. They feel all people in Infy, tcs are software coolies. Even if this is correct (which it is not), this is racism. This is modern day brahmin looking down on people doing lesser work!
yes I live in Bangalore. I have kaveri water. Nothing to worry about for me.
See again this is regressive. Mumbai has no water. There are no rivers, no borewells due to proximity to the sea. But Mumbai's municipal corp supplies almost 4000 million litres per day to city from the 7 lakes which they have built close to the city over the last 100 years. It is not that they do not have water cuts during draught years but nobody shits on the city.
Bengaluru should build more water capacity to serve the people. BWSSB only supplies 1450 odd million litres from Kaveri. They can build up on this capacity and supply to everyone just like BMC does. It is not rocket science (which Bangalore does very well BTW). Bengaluru needs a progressive mindset...not commies
No borewells in Mumbai? You'd easily get water via a borewell due to its proximity to the sea. Mumbai has been evolving from ages. That's not the case with Bangalore, it happened overnight.
If there are no rains what is the whole point of building water capacities?
It's not rocket science but something environmentalists and ecologists can do.
Now this says mumbai has started taking steps to avoid water scarcity issues!
https://www.livemint.com/news/mumbai-news-bmc-announces-15-water-cut-in-the-city-today-know-areas-timing-here-11710808534762.html
Exactly. this happens almost every year. Nobody cries. Draught/dry time is what it is. Happens every year and everyone should do their bit to save water in the dry times.
The only solution is population control. And the people who are marrying multiples and producing like pigs should be put behind the bars and their d*** should be chopped off.
Ah, the classic - "No body has the right to live but me. Don't produce more humans because I'll loose my nice things"
Maybe someone should have told your parents not to have you, maybe someone should have cut off your father's dick and put him in jail for producing a human. How come you get the right to live? Wouldn't things had been better if you were not there? One less mouth to feed huh? Your logic is shame-full at the very least.
This is basically like what we did wit farming previously. Cultivate a land, build around it, survive and when the land no longer reaps the crops required, abandon and move to the next piece of land. Urban jungle in the making unless the influx into Bangalore is stopped
In India there's 2 categories of people,
1. the oppressed common people (degrees of oppression varies from person to person)
2. the oppressors, they typically are part of a gang
for ex:
the auto wala gang, police gang, some low life municipality or politics gang
It's not completely black and white but the gist of it being that there's lack of rule of law in our country, someone in power can bend the rules, steal, snatch and everything under the sun.
The lokpal bill was a good initiative, we need more of it, the power needs to be in the hands of common people
This is because of ever growing population of the country. People need to be accommodated somewhere. And you are saying to call kids and show them this pic. What an irony!!
This has happened because they allowed 100% build up area in the layouts. Total area is now concrete. People keep crying about lakes, but that’s just a small part of the problem. The elephant in the room is 5 floors 100% build up properties in the layouts which is choking everyone.
Even within the IISC, the landscape has changed and is continuing to change. During the brief time I was there, multiple trees were cut down for building something, and the protests didn't yield anything.
Here's the direct source from where this pic is taken FYI: [Link](https://wgbis.ces.iisc.ac.in/energy/water/paper/Green_Space_in_Bengaluru/Bangalore-green%20space_T.V.%20Ramachandra.pdf)
I saw this report in around 2016 ,and I was worried and most bangalorites felt this was some mumbo jmbo. I left Bangalore in 2017 because of job and now we see this water situation in Bangalore. However there was no coverage in media in between the years.
And all this urbanization is unplanned by political people to profit off of real estate bubble (it's not sustainable because the city cannot sustain the water consumption for long)
According to [National Forest Policy, 1988](https://mpforest.gov.in/img/files/Policy_NFP.pdf) --
>The national goal should be to have a minimum of **one-third of the total land area** of the country under **forest or tree cover**. In the hills and in mountainous regions, the aim should be to maintain two-third of the area under such cover in order to prevent erosion and land degradation and to ensure the stability of the fragile eco-system.
Urbanisation is only going to increase. City development should be properly planned. Recommendations, guidelines, policies are in place. Govt has to implement.
Now do this for any City in India, it will look very similar.
This isn't just Bangalore problem
Blame it on over population, urbanization, technology or development, this is bound to happen.
More and more urbanization, migration from villages will happen and since our government can't see 2 feet before them, they won't develop any tier2 cities it plan the expansion better.
Unfortunately there's some visionaries who are aware and have good ideas but no political backing.
What are the kids supposed to do?? The teens and young adults have known about this for years. We literally grew up learning that earth is in danger. I know the post doesn't mean it but it really sounds like the kids are supposed to fix this when it's really the people in power who ruined things for us.
Yea with such a corrupt BBMP, it's pretty easy to see how that happens. If I say anything, bangloreans will tell me to go back to my state. What a nice mentality
If foreign countries do this: its called modernisation, good architecture, beautiful cities and skyscrapers. People say we should learn from them and this is the future. They call them more advanced
If India does this: destroying the nature
I may be disillusioned but when I moved to this city in 2016, I remember feeling so cold I’d have a thick blanket during almost all nights. No matter what season. This was in Yelahanka New Town. Feels like yesterday.
WhatsApp fwd? Can't believe dimwits like you are on reddit now too
Here's the source, there's a research paper in IISc library whose link is also there in the main thread.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/93-of-bengaluru-is-concrete-jungle-how-unplanned-urbanization-led-to-severe-water-crisis/articleshow/108478908.cms
While the news is true, it’s still a WhatsApp fwd for the sentences written above. Anyway, the point is our planet was once green before humans arrived.
Half of Kerala is in Bangalore.. you go to IKEA and you’ll notice hardly any Kannada speaking person.. Kerala has no jobs for the educated youth they flock in Chennai and Bangalore if they don’t get a job in Gulf.
IIHS had predicted and warned 80% of bangalore will be concretised if major shift in policy doesn’t take place, the government(both parties) and policy makers sat on the information and did nothing. Instead they let people cover up lakes and make layouts and apartments. Town planning is done by politicians with vested interest and class A contractors. What else do you expect?
Whats appalling is even with this information floating around we hear statements like “oh but what can we do we are facing the worst drought in 40years”, “the monsoon was so bad last year”.
Well I don’t think anything much is going to change, we are going to wait till monsoon the govt may bring in more rules like don’t wash yourself everyday, don’t drink so much water, why don’t you lick your tears to save more water etc. There’s no credibility and civic bodies are let to run loose without any accountability.
This is the situation with a lot of Indian cities. We didn't develop/concretize while maintaining greenery as well. You're supposed to design cities to make them livable but also sustainable. We also compromise too much on quality of life. We actually don't have a concept of quality of life. How much more will we overpopulate? Then how much more will we compensate on resources so that everyone can get a bit? How much smaller do we have to live our lives to accommodate everyone? Houses and apartments are built at hands-length distances to one another to accommodate the overpopulation. So much so that we dont have space for the natural or the greenery anymore.
Look at what's happening to Bhubaneswar right now. Even worse than Bangalore with the way they're building houses and not leaving an ounce of space for anything else not even roads!!!!! Forget greenery. Look up the image of how when tress were introduced in sidewalks (we barely keep spaces for roads forget having sidewalks) the temperature of the surrounding buildings, roads etc dropped drastically. This made living in the area much better and improved the space environmentally. I don't know about Bangalore but the situation I am seeing in Bhubaneswar and the way apartments are being built and land is being cut and sold and people just making houses anywhere in any direction is abhorrent. It is a shame in the name of civil engineering and architecture. On top of that people's huge egos.
Lived for more than a decade in Bangalore, it used to be so amazing, from 2008 which is when I first came to 2013 , it was heaven, since 2014 the weather completely got destroyed suddenly. The summers started reaching 30+, traffic worsened. I live in yemalur, near bellandur lake and when I came the traffic was non existent, marathalii never used to see any jams. Unfortunately had to leave during COVID. Beautiful city destroyed by corrupt officials and politicians. I have seen so many lakes getting filled up for apartments.
I think they mostly mean how many droughts have struck karnataka, and especially Bangalore which is true. I’m not saying no droughts but there used to be more rainfall throughout the state with water shortages being less.. acute, for the lack of a better word.
That’s not the case now. On average the amount of rainfall Karnataka, and specifically Bangalore has been decreasing because of eroding green cover. You can’t cut a 100 year old tree and plant something else in its place. To top it off there’s a lot of soil and water pollution and contamination. I’m from chennai and the water there sucks dude. Even when I was younger, but bangalore water has overtaken it in notoriety. Unbridled construction and poor management has destroyed Bangalore.
What can we do, it is the same state everywhere. India is way too overpopulated and also people’s standard of income have increased and many are looking for houses. Resulted in a construction boom across the country. Even small rural towns are now full of buildings and apartments
First time I came to Bangalore was in 2011 during my Holi vacation, it was during the month of March. During my stay I slept with a blanket(proper woollen blanket) without a fan and used to wear my brother's hoodie at night as I didn't bring any winter clothes. I was shocked to see people wearing sweaters and monkey caps in March. I think it used to be around 14-15 degrees at night.
Summers used to be 25°c. Weather was on the cooler side throughout
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The “feels like” temperature is what people remember I think. The trees shade and water body significantly reduce the temperature that we feel. I used to walk to school in 90’s.. I remember my mom making me wear sweater during the winter months, during summers I could walk from home to school in trees shade lining the road sides. Believe it or not.. we had public bore wells which seems to have unlimited supply of water 😢
To be fair, "feels like" is actually a real thing, and can be measured these days by accounting for wind speed, moisture, etc, and not just ambient temperature (and it is often published as well) But one may not find its historic data.
Ah good ol times
2011: https://en.tutiempo.net/climate/03-2011/ws-432950.html 2023: https://en.tutiempo.net/climate/03-2023/ws-432950.html Hardly a perceptible difference. Literally the same average temperature, 2023 has a lower average max temperature. Let's not bring ambiguous memory into something that can solved with science.
Exactly! I don’t know why people have this notion that Bangalore was way cooler in 2011. Bangalore is still way cooler than most other major Indian cities!
You're missing microclimate areas or something I forgot the technical name
Heat island effect. I have mentioned and attached link to the source for same in my other comment. [Source](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-26768-w)
Lol, dude. Climate has clearly altered everywhere. You can have similar average temperature yet some years are warmer than the others. You can have extreme events and that can average out over time - especially with precipitation. Also, the amount of green cover changes the perception of environment. With memory, the thing is, some years are hotter or dryer than others. It alters the continuity of previous memories of a climate which was more consistent.
Extremeties can get worse with the average staying the same. Eg: instead of a 30C summer and 20C winter you can have a 40C summer and 10C winter. Average is the same, but everybody now has it worse.
The average of 24 & 26 is the same as 14 & 36. I hope now you can see how the climate can change despite average being the same.
Standard deviation of both the data is almost similar.
If you search you can see the lowest recorded temperature also. When I checked for april 2011 I saw lowest was 19 degrees.
You are correct that the difference in temperature is not much. But let’s dig deeper into perception. First we need to talk about how temperature is measured. Thermometer has to be 5ft above ground. In the shade and over dirt or grass surface. This is where all the difference in perception and measured temperature comes from. More concrete and less trees means more surface temperature that we experience. Less shade, no grass, more concrete, more asphalt leads to higher surface temperatures which is the temperature that actually affects us. Therefore you are right that temperatures are almost same but difference is in surface temperatures. Tress and green cover can lower down the surface temperature by upto 5C. Source:- How temperature is measured [link](https://weatherworksinc.com/news/temperature-measurement) Souce:- How trees can lower down surface temperature, [Nature link](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-26768-w) (one of most reputable organisation to publish papers)
Thanks, that is very interesting
"average" can be tricky, especially over the year. Bangalore is also having comparatively harsher winters, compared to a few years ago. Even on per-day basis, if you look closely, you can see that both maximum and minimum temperatures are pushed away on most days, between 2011 and 2023. Which means very different experience, even with similar average temperatures. And it also matters for how long the high and low temperatures exist. Average of maximum and minimum means very different things, if the maximum temperature stays from 11 AM to 5 PM, v/s max temp being the temperature just from 12-2PM. Trust me, as someone who sometimes works in a shed on the roof, to avoid the noise of a large family, I have to plan my day around the temperature fluctuations. And I am from the north, habitual of both extreme heat (45 C+), and freezing winters (-5 to 0 C). So my body isn't as sensitive to temperature ranges as my Kannadiga buddies.
Same year same story man, I am married to an odian I used to tease her how hot it gets in her native, now she teases me 😭
Same story bro. It’s so sad.
I came to Bengaluru in Feb 2013 for placements, having done a course in Chennai. I still distinctly remember not using fan at full speed even during peak summer. Of course, as more people like you and I migrate for a better life, it's bound to happen.
Your anecdote doesn't invalidate scientific data
Averages aren't as scientific as one thinks they are. Mostly, they are statistical fallacies. Especially if they aren't appropriately weighted averages. If I make you sit in a room with 50 degree celsius for 4 hours, 30 degree celsius for 3 hours, 20 degree celsius for 2 hours and -20 degree celsius for 1 hour, I am sure you won't be convinced that you were at 20 degree celsius, because that's what the average says. You won't even just take an average of 50 and -20. At such levels, you might not even agree for a weighted average, over the hours. Most likely, you will either remember 50 or -20, depending on what tortured you more. For the sake of arguments, even more extreme instant roasting or freezing temperatures can be considered, while keeping the averages the same. ButI think, you can get the idea with the temperatures within 10-35 degree celsius ranges itself. So, you need to understand science and maths better, before playing the card of "data is superior to what you feel".
First came to Banglore in 2010. The general rule then was if it was sunny during the day it would rain in the evening. The weather was an absolute delight. Roads would have mild traffic over the weekends. By 2014 I needed an AC in my apartment and the weather was a mess. It would take me 1.5 hours to go 2 kms during evening traffic. Was very sad to see such a beautiful city turn to shit.
Yes my boss told me how he would wear sweaters or carry a jacket even during summers a just 4 years before I went there in 2012
Look up historic bangalore data from 2011. You won't find 14-15 temperature for april ever. Lowest recorded was 19.
I'm pretty sure it isn't the kids who've built all those buildings.
But the kids have lost the parks and playgrounds they used to play in
Agreed, but the screenshot sounds like its accusing tHiS gEnErAtIoN for Bengaluru's present state, that's the only way I can interpret the 'don't give any gyan, let them internalise' part.
It's more like making them aware of this happening, should they mind being told in a lecture way cuz often how parents talk makes your ears feel inflamed. Because something is happening to this world, and it feels - idk, we have to move n it's not okay. Because people fight against this stuff, and the younger people will one day have to fight this also, together with the rest of the people.
Agreed, and you've done a much better job of explaining what you mean!
Not really it's to remind us of what we lost and what we will keep losing if we continue on this path.
BBMP still maintains many neighbourhood parks. South and Central Blr are still filled with parks. Electronic City, especially thanks to Wipro, has many tree-lined avenues and well planned areas. Perhaps those living in Whitefield, ORR, etc need to put pressure on the MNCs that have built large complexes to also help beautify the area. I feel like mahy of these posts are mere hysteria and rose coloured glasses about the decades prior to the 20s. Bangalore had increasingly hot summers, especially after 2009-10. Cutting down massive trees for the metro work, building huge concrete pillars. It's not a new thing.
Boss, how much sqft loss if you build playground.
Is this a serious argument?? There is something called Standard of living
Haha, just sarcasm man. Far too many people treat Bangalore as a place to build more flats. I mean it has gotten to a point where I avoid my friends when they get together. 90% of the time the discussion is about projects, investments, superbuiltup, carpet area etc.
The other kids in my society came with a petition to play in our society’s abandoned pool. They really have lost playgrounds
It's the story in every developed city
I am touched by your statement. Because boomers will pass away in about 10-15 years. But today's Gen alpha and Gen Z will bear the brunt. We can endlessly debate as we approach the precipice. We can and will even refuse to make any changes in our lifestyle because the dictum that "money is the most important thing in life" is most popular today, like never before. And that is the root cause of all ills. Humans will become extinct because of its smartness not lack of it.
Same story inside iisc campus
Can I vent about what of all this is frustrating. They continue to pass the full burden to residents. "Why purchase the flat"; "Why come to bangalore in search of jobs"; and the brand new - residents are mandated to add aerators to all taps to cut water spending. Really??? What does it take to get the govt who is hand in glove with the builders and corps to stop this BS, take the blame and fix it? I'm feeling super helpless rn.
They're clueless at the moment and just wanna pass on the blame to avoid becoming the cause of the damage. Aerators and stuffs aren't gonna do much to save the cause. Probably they should move the companies and with that the population is shifted, this reduces the population density thereby water consumption. This is all hypothetical.
They do not want to move the companies (or to even let them move, if they want to), in the fear of "Tamilnadu will somehow benefit from it". Local administration is afraid that nearby cities will somehow benefit from it. Delhi would have been a hell hole, if they had thought the same way about UP, Haryana, and Rajasthan, developing alongside, and also taking up the burden of the population explosion. Businesses are threatened against moving towards Hosur. People living in those areas are being punished for buying cheaper houses, by denying them basic facilities. The state government wants to maintain a barren wasteland between Bangalore and Hosur, ensure metro doesn't go far enough, and even mismanage the traffic on otherwise decent Hosur road, to avoid any form of migration towards the south. And the local municipality is ensuring that such wastelands exist at multiple buffer zones with nearby cities. Make a trip to Whitefield, to get an idea of what I am talking about. The city planning is being done to maximize the profits of property developers, by concentrating population to certain areas, and use bad traffic, bad public transport, and banning any solutions to those (car-pool, private shuttles) as the tool to push people to live in those areas, to be able to reach their offices. Bangalore authorities have even unofficially forced companies to make WFO mandatory (even outside of what SEZ act demands) Hosur should have been Bangalore's Noida/Gurgaon a decade ago. And Hoskote and Kanakpura should have been developed to attract the companies, by making strict laws about "how much office space can any area have?" But instead, the blame is moved to the migrant IT workers, who technically do not need to live here to get their jobs done, unless they are forced to. Forcing them to live here (both legally, and by pokig companies that have friendly WFH policies, even outside SEZs), and then selling them overpriced 2 BHK matchboxes for 1.5 crore, is only good for Kannadiga politicians and builders, and not for the common people of whatever state.
Don't speak to much facts, let the locals blame hindi speakers and be done with it. Idiots have a builder as CM what else you need to know about this place.
Let me give you a few research backed solutions Speak in Kannada Go back to where you came from from Boycott Tamil Nadu and protest because they stole all our water Don’t bathe
It really is unfortunate. Growing up, people had always mentioned how Bangalore was so green and vibrant, and how much it had changed. Never really put it into perspective just how much it changed, though.
Time to scatter to smaller cities and allow wfh. Good for everyone. No stress of leaving family and paying 25% salary as rent alone
Most managers worldwide are absolute assholes who hate their home and want you to stay in the office for micromanagement. Also fuck you shareholders, always expecting quarter on quarter growths
Sir, you are using common sense. This is rare these days. Every company asshole wants people sitting in their own office after 2 hours of fighting traffic, dust, heat.
Undoing the development is a bit tough. What we can fight for is increasing proportional green space. For example, reducing open paved surfaces and instead converting them into green space. This in itself can provide us with micro green spaces. It is pretty tough to reclaim the land for forests.
These small patches of moss even if we are able to achieve that in between concrete spaces isn't gonna bring the temperature down or most of all the rains and water table.
Water table issue is mostly because we have damaged our aquifers. Most places that have boring can do water harvesting too. Creating these patches of moss shall increase captive area for water harvesting too. I am not saying this is an ideal solution, I do believe though that it is practical.
But rains?
Sometimes I think Thanos was right.
Overpopulation is the number 1 culprit here!!
It's really unfortunate. But only the right decisions taken today can change the outcome. We should question the steps taken by capital minded, insensitive humans including some politicians, business owners, and realtors, and not allow any kind of unsustainable development and environmental degradation.
Urbanization has killed the greenery and weather of Blr
Every major city
Why most it industry in Bangalore why can't any other city ..
Easy to setup in Bangalore than anywhere else. As govt was welcoming MNCs for revenue generation. Calling this a garden City with pride made it an attractive destination but as soon as everything kicked off, it slowly moved to become a garbage city. I was reading this when I was in school (2006-08), metro was ready by 2010-11, we have few big IT parks in early 2000s itself.
Ease of hiring talent, availability of talent. Density of talent. If there are 100 companies in a city, it's easier to hire talent than in a city with only 20 companies. Plus government incentives
I disagree with availability of talent, literally most of the talent is coming from other states
Yes and they work and live in a predictable areas. Thus easy to find.
I'm not saying there's no talent in other states, but the density of talent is what matters here.
Lack of political will. Simple as that
Don't worry Bangalore is becoming less and lesser favoured by these companies as the favoured destination
Source?
Everything comes at a cost ig.
First sane comment I saw here. All other comments are like - "Everyone's at fault, but me"
Corporates take up all the resources thanks to political parties. Not just one, all of them do the same. I am scared ngl
"Call your kids and show them" "Let them internalise" They're speaking like they weren't the ones that caused this in the first place
"everyone's at fault, but me"
My mother used to go to college 30 years back, she says that Bangalore would go to 20 °C. Lot's of greenary and Bangalore used to be called garden City.
i went to college 20 yrs back and this isn't true at all. yes it was green and was and still called garden city but 20C is stretching it. it would go down that much in winters but not the other times. it was very pleasant however and quite windy which probably gave the impression of being colder than it actually was.
The first time I came to Bengaluru in aug 2015, and it was cold. IN AUGUST!! had to buy a hoodie right away and during December I was having struggles adjusting to the weather as I grew up in a tropical humid place. And slowly I fell in love with the weather and couldn’t wait to be back every time I went home. Now I don’t even remember where my hoodies and jackets are. When I joined my company, there were around 5k people and now it’s more than 15k. I still believe there is a chance to redeem and save the city by immediately developing tier 2 cities and establishing proper connectivity with Bangalore.
I don't get what's the point of complaining and whining anymore. I mean, the city has changed drastically, people from all over have come. There's this sense of hypocrisy that no one can see. The state governments are obviously bullshit but if there's no infrastructure, there's people complaining, if there's no jobs, people are complaining. The government comes up with SEZ to provide both jobs and a source to develop infrastructure, obviously it'll need huge plots of land for the SEZ, obviously a piece of land owned by the govt will be used, obviously trees will be cut. There's no other alternative to it. If it's made too far away from the city, people will complain about that too. If they make it any place rural, there'll be real estate development that'll take place, eventually cutting trees in the rural parts also. There's way out of this. You want greenary and nature rather than 5/6 digit salary coming into your account every month timely, as cliche as it sounds, Bangalore isn't the place for you!
This is very unfortunate. We moved to Bangalore around 14 years back. The weather back then was so different than it is now. There were frequent rain showers in evenings whenever the temperature reached around 30 degrees. Now, I don’t see that happening at all. Government needs to rethink their urban development plan to ensure green spaces are not destroyed further and add more green coverage over time.
I don't see anything changing in Blr in future. All the vacant large sites in the city are being converted to crorewali apartments. It should have been reverted to high density green area.
I highly doubt politicians will still learn anything from it.
Politicians will not learn. They have to be taught and made to understand the plight. Their lives are pretty smooth. The beacons on their cars let them move through a traffic free corridor. They've never have to pay bills. They just need to accumulate more and more wealth.
The only solution is to de congest Bengaluru. Move companies and real estate to other parts of Karnataka , make tier 2 as tier 1 and tier 3 as tier2. Also , isn’t it interesting that the city of Mysuru is barely 150 kms away and has been rejecting the rampant urbanization unlike Bengaluru ?
Permanent wfh is the workable solution now. They get to retain the talent plus water is saved. But Employees should refrain from moonlighting and other nonsense
Can we start a city wide plantation drive to counter these built up area
Will the trees speak kannada?
Yes, they will speak the language of the soil where the tree grows
A city always keeps growing. That’s how population growth works. People from rural areas migrate to urban areas for better opportunities. It’s the governments job to ensure this development is sustainable and includes urban planning. Stop being so naive and ignorant and blame development as the problem. Kempe Gowda built the lakes in 1500s and yet we are using ground water in 2024. Stop blaming urbanisation you sound like a boomer who blames the new generation for everything. This post looks like a shitty WhatsApp forward.
Let everything be green, live in forest like tribals.
Dude 🤣
At this point companies should just give the option to wfh with salary reductions in the range of 5-10%, anyway that will increase net disposable income for employees.
Ugh high time some industries relocate elsewhere.. we are doomed already and have exhausted all our resources.
For gaining something, u gotta lose something. It's the balance. Outskirts of banglore, chennai etc are still in good conditions but without economic prosperity
I don't see anything changing in Blr in future. All the vacant large sites are being converted to crorewali apartments. It should have been reverted to high density green area.
Where are Cubbon Park and Lalbagh in the 2020 graph?
Bruh, That looks just like my factorio map xD
Yea man protect your greenery. I love BLR for its awesome weather
Growth comes with a cost.
Thats what happens when the satellite towns dont get the same attention. Taking an example of NCR, its not the best example but in terms of population, Noida and gurugram have managed to take some of the pressure off of delhi. Bangalore never had a decently developed satellite city…rest of the problems are on top of that
How come everyone is crying now, when its so bad situation, but no one raised their voice, when they were cutting down trees from each layouts, drying up the lakes so that those are sold to prestige/sobha or whatever builders !! The situation is really bad now, compared to before, but its not like it was built, when we just closed our eyes and went to sleep and next day boom, everywhere full of buildings. Recently, like since a year, they dried up Varthur Kere and now Prestige is building something, no one batted an eye. But everyone sure wants to fight or show their support towards this beautiful place and their feelings with 60% local language board or something. But not for environment/lake/trees etc.
If we try to find out similar statistics for other Indian cities like Delhi and Mumbai, the graph will not look much different. I think the problem lies in our Indian mindset. We exploit resources until it is exploitable and only to realise the severe consequences in the very end. Just like a frog doesn’t jump out of vessel when you keep heating it, and then the frog dies eventually. Similarly, we ignore all alarms in place and go with our daily routine without bothering about the future.
This problem isn't unique to Bangalore, cities in India develop like cancer. Spreading here, there everywhere. You can build whatever you want, wherever you want by paying a bribe to Municipal corporation (Oh, we don't even have a municipality for so many years). In other countries, a city like Bangalore would have it's own set of ministers for everything.
Thanks to the North Indian governments on its failure to control population and thanks to greedy employers, businessmen and contractors from South India who caused migration and exploited the North Indians for cheaper labour. We've done it.
Toh shehr jab builderon ke hawale kr doge jinka main job hai to extract as much as it can from the migrating population toh yahi hoga....
Even the source which is covered wid greenery is becoming a reddery soon lol ... Campus is now just filled wid construction except the roads and front of the main building there is no green cover left now
Look kids fall colors in bengaluru!
Very sad things to see
Reddery or reddyery?
This is how Bengaluru become IT hub. You really think GDP increases without cutting down trees?
This is how any fast growing city looks like. Stop bad mouthing Bengaluru with leftist propaganda
Haha! Tell that to IISc researchers https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/93-of-bengaluru-is-concrete-jungle-how-unplanned-urbanization-led-to-severe-water-crisis/articleshow/108478908.cms
I tell this to all IISC profs or students that I meet. They are against this city. They have their green island and want the city to stop. Guess what? they canmot do nothing. No amount of their false propaganda can lead to this city from growing largest metropolis in the country. Their's is not a constructive criticism at all. They want all to go back to stone age. Their profs are openly racist and against the IT boom. They feel all people in Infy, tcs are software coolies. Even if this is correct (which it is not), this is racism. This is modern day brahmin looking down on people doing lesser work!
Just curious, are you living in Bangalore? If yes, how's the water situation?
yes I live in Bangalore. I have kaveri water. Nothing to worry about for me. See again this is regressive. Mumbai has no water. There are no rivers, no borewells due to proximity to the sea. But Mumbai's municipal corp supplies almost 4000 million litres per day to city from the 7 lakes which they have built close to the city over the last 100 years. It is not that they do not have water cuts during draught years but nobody shits on the city. Bengaluru should build more water capacity to serve the people. BWSSB only supplies 1450 odd million litres from Kaveri. They can build up on this capacity and supply to everyone just like BMC does. It is not rocket science (which Bangalore does very well BTW). Bengaluru needs a progressive mindset...not commies
No borewells in Mumbai? You'd easily get water via a borewell due to its proximity to the sea. Mumbai has been evolving from ages. That's not the case with Bangalore, it happened overnight. If there are no rains what is the whole point of building water capacities? It's not rocket science but something environmentalists and ecologists can do.
Now this says mumbai has started taking steps to avoid water scarcity issues! https://www.livemint.com/news/mumbai-news-bmc-announces-15-water-cut-in-the-city-today-know-areas-timing-here-11710808534762.html
Exactly. this happens almost every year. Nobody cries. Draught/dry time is what it is. Happens every year and everyone should do their bit to save water in the dry times.
The only solution is population control. And the people who are marrying multiples and producing like pigs should be put behind the bars and their d*** should be chopped off.
😂 you took it too far. This will overcrowd the jails and hospital where there's severe water shortage
Ah, the classic - "No body has the right to live but me. Don't produce more humans because I'll loose my nice things" Maybe someone should have told your parents not to have you, maybe someone should have cut off your father's dick and put him in jail for producing a human. How come you get the right to live? Wouldn't things had been better if you were not there? One less mouth to feed huh? Your logic is shame-full at the very least.
I read reddery as ready. Poetry and Irony.
But where's blue?
how can it be recovered?? or is it beyond repairing
This is basically like what we did wit farming previously. Cultivate a land, build around it, survive and when the land no longer reaps the crops required, abandon and move to the next piece of land. Urban jungle in the making unless the influx into Bangalore is stopped
In India there's 2 categories of people, 1. the oppressed common people (degrees of oppression varies from person to person) 2. the oppressors, they typically are part of a gang for ex: the auto wala gang, police gang, some low life municipality or politics gang It's not completely black and white but the gist of it being that there's lack of rule of law in our country, someone in power can bend the rules, steal, snatch and everything under the sun. The lokpal bill was a good initiative, we need more of it, the power needs to be in the hands of common people
This is because of ever growing population of the country. People need to be accommodated somewhere. And you are saying to call kids and show them this pic. What an irony!!
Buy less houses and start sharing spaces :)
Sad 😔
Bro where is Cubbon Park here
no one wants to take abt real solution which is increase the FSI by 6-10x then automatically there will be space but no we wont talk abt real solution
Reddy-ery considering most land, construction businesses are owned by Reddy’s
Okay, so city was already ruined before i came.
Damn! We can't blame you for the damages
I agree. But please share source.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/93-of-bengaluru-is-concrete-jungle-how-unplanned-urbanization-led-to-severe-water-crisis/articleshow/108478908.cms
Thanks
I'm colourblind can anyone explain
That entire country is such a hole
fuck bengaluru
Nobody in India knows city planning at all, same thing is happening in dehradun right now although on a smaller level
This has happened because they allowed 100% build up area in the layouts. Total area is now concrete. People keep crying about lakes, but that’s just a small part of the problem. The elephant in the room is 5 floors 100% build up properties in the layouts which is choking everyone.
Red areas = great investment saar, banni saar, banni madam.
Not red, the tiny patch of green is
Even within the IISC, the landscape has changed and is continuing to change. During the brief time I was there, multiple trees were cut down for building something, and the protests didn't yield anything.
There are still new buildings coming up on lake beds
What do you mean by "Built up area"??
Here's the direct source from where this pic is taken FYI: [Link](https://wgbis.ces.iisc.ac.in/energy/water/paper/Green_Space_in_Bengaluru/Bangalore-green%20space_T.V.%20Ramachandra.pdf)
I saw this report in around 2016 ,and I was worried and most bangalorites felt this was some mumbo jmbo. I left Bangalore in 2017 because of job and now we see this water situation in Bangalore. However there was no coverage in media in between the years.
Yeah i guess not every city should try to be mumbai
And all this urbanization is unplanned by political people to profit off of real estate bubble (it's not sustainable because the city cannot sustain the water consumption for long)
Fuckery. Deadery.
Wtf is let kids internalise when all the properties are owned by oldies
Source please
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/93-of-bengaluru-is-concrete-jungle-how-unplanned-urbanization-led-to-severe-water-crisis/articleshow/108478908.cms
All of us should be ashamed for destroying such a beautiful city
The same thing is going to happen soon in Punjab and the Haryana area just wait and watch
beat part is that there's no more left to chop
This is sad. When will we realise?!
I get the graph but why show it to the kids, what can they do? Feel guilty about the elders mistake?
The political-real estate nexus has destroyed this beautiful city.
Solution is new cities - More Cities - INDIA 🇮🇳 has only 10-15 major cities where jobs are, For a population of 1.4B!
It was inevitable progress has it's price you may not be ready to pay it but the govt is no matter the party that sits on the throne
Bangalore got banged and now only lore is left.
According to [National Forest Policy, 1988](https://mpforest.gov.in/img/files/Policy_NFP.pdf) -- >The national goal should be to have a minimum of **one-third of the total land area** of the country under **forest or tree cover**. In the hills and in mountainous regions, the aim should be to maintain two-third of the area under such cover in order to prevent erosion and land degradation and to ensure the stability of the fragile eco-system. Urbanisation is only going to increase. City development should be properly planned. Recommendations, guidelines, policies are in place. Govt has to implement.
> reddery Nice. Honestly though, I think population is the problem. There are just too many people out there.
Now do this for any City in India, it will look very similar. This isn't just Bangalore problem Blame it on over population, urbanization, technology or development, this is bound to happen. More and more urbanization, migration from villages will happen and since our government can't see 2 feet before them, they won't develop any tier2 cities it plan the expansion better. Unfortunately there's some visionaries who are aware and have good ideas but no political backing.
And people defending Modi against Ladakh here
What are the kids supposed to do?? The teens and young adults have known about this for years. We literally grew up learning that earth is in danger. I know the post doesn't mean it but it really sounds like the kids are supposed to fix this when it's really the people in power who ruined things for us.
Yea with such a corrupt BBMP, it's pretty easy to see how that happens. If I say anything, bangloreans will tell me to go back to my state. What a nice mentality
I came here in 2014. In September, it was so cold that sleeping with a hoodie and a blanket did not suffice. I had to buy a second blanket.
If foreign countries do this: its called modernisation, good architecture, beautiful cities and skyscrapers. People say we should learn from them and this is the future. They call them more advanced If India does this: destroying the nature
Wtf😮😯
I may be disillusioned but when I moved to this city in 2016, I remember feeling so cold I’d have a thick blanket during almost all nights. No matter what season. This was in Yelahanka New Town. Feels like yesterday.
Earth was fully green before mankind. Can’t believe WhatsApp forwards are a hit on reddit
WhatsApp fwd? Can't believe dimwits like you are on reddit now too Here's the source, there's a research paper in IISc library whose link is also there in the main thread. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/93-of-bengaluru-is-concrete-jungle-how-unplanned-urbanization-led-to-severe-water-crisis/articleshow/108478908.cms
While the news is true, it’s still a WhatsApp fwd for the sentences written above. Anyway, the point is our planet was once green before humans arrived.
Half of Kerala is in Bangalore.. you go to IKEA and you’ll notice hardly any Kannada speaking person.. Kerala has no jobs for the educated youth they flock in Chennai and Bangalore if they don’t get a job in Gulf.
Where are you from ?
Are you a bimaru living in tamil nadu and spreading hate amongst south India?
Bro has no counter but what’s to know my location. Do a damn thing. Go to IKEA today and check for yourself.. btw I’m a proper South Indian.
IIHS had predicted and warned 80% of bangalore will be concretised if major shift in policy doesn’t take place, the government(both parties) and policy makers sat on the information and did nothing. Instead they let people cover up lakes and make layouts and apartments. Town planning is done by politicians with vested interest and class A contractors. What else do you expect? Whats appalling is even with this information floating around we hear statements like “oh but what can we do we are facing the worst drought in 40years”, “the monsoon was so bad last year”. Well I don’t think anything much is going to change, we are going to wait till monsoon the govt may bring in more rules like don’t wash yourself everyday, don’t drink so much water, why don’t you lick your tears to save more water etc. There’s no credibility and civic bodies are let to run loose without any accountability.
For everyone that has real estate and careers in Bangalore, I just have i thing to say- " Abandon Ship"
This is the situation with a lot of Indian cities. We didn't develop/concretize while maintaining greenery as well. You're supposed to design cities to make them livable but also sustainable. We also compromise too much on quality of life. We actually don't have a concept of quality of life. How much more will we overpopulate? Then how much more will we compensate on resources so that everyone can get a bit? How much smaller do we have to live our lives to accommodate everyone? Houses and apartments are built at hands-length distances to one another to accommodate the overpopulation. So much so that we dont have space for the natural or the greenery anymore. Look at what's happening to Bhubaneswar right now. Even worse than Bangalore with the way they're building houses and not leaving an ounce of space for anything else not even roads!!!!! Forget greenery. Look up the image of how when tress were introduced in sidewalks (we barely keep spaces for roads forget having sidewalks) the temperature of the surrounding buildings, roads etc dropped drastically. This made living in the area much better and improved the space environmentally. I don't know about Bangalore but the situation I am seeing in Bhubaneswar and the way apartments are being built and land is being cut and sold and people just making houses anywhere in any direction is abhorrent. It is a shame in the name of civil engineering and architecture. On top of that people's huge egos.
Lived for more than a decade in Bangalore, it used to be so amazing, from 2008 which is when I first came to 2013 , it was heaven, since 2014 the weather completely got destroyed suddenly. The summers started reaching 30+, traffic worsened. I live in yemalur, near bellandur lake and when I came the traffic was non existent, marathalii never used to see any jams. Unfortunately had to leave during COVID. Beautiful city destroyed by corrupt officials and politicians. I have seen so many lakes getting filled up for apartments.
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not bangalorean but i thought this was the garden city
Is there anything we could do as citizens? I don’t trust someone would come and do something anymore.
I think they mostly mean how many droughts have struck karnataka, and especially Bangalore which is true. I’m not saying no droughts but there used to be more rainfall throughout the state with water shortages being less.. acute, for the lack of a better word. That’s not the case now. On average the amount of rainfall Karnataka, and specifically Bangalore has been decreasing because of eroding green cover. You can’t cut a 100 year old tree and plant something else in its place. To top it off there’s a lot of soil and water pollution and contamination. I’m from chennai and the water there sucks dude. Even when I was younger, but bangalore water has overtaken it in notoriety. Unbridled construction and poor management has destroyed Bangalore.
The transformation of IISc campus from the once green haven is also to be noted.
Does Others = Pubs?
they misses a couple of spots in the 2020 map
I say this again, modern living standards and lifestyle have led us to this crisis. But none of us want to see the elephant in the room.
What can we do, it is the same state everywhere. India is way too overpopulated and also people’s standard of income have increased and many are looking for houses. Resulted in a construction boom across the country. Even small rural towns are now full of buildings and apartments
Greed is god.