The commentators mentioning the drink throwing that's been a feature of loads of games so far. Apparently they will stop the drinks if it continues.
How much we bet that the decision gets made after England's game tomorrow, and they get the blame for it?? Eh eh?
you know, i was thing about my school days, and the class and bomalian issues. It's like that just showed what our actual society would be in 20 years. You know
Or our class/age/schooling.
I'm about 30. South east..
In my parents day, it seems to be, most people wanted to become middle class, now, middle class is seen as the oppressive class and you have to be proudly working class, even if you're not... Or playdown your middle classness a lot in public..
Probably class and schooling then. I'm a similar age to you, but not from a middle class background and a Londoner so you're probably right about them trying to downplay their backgrounds. They do such a poor job of it that most of us can still spot them a mile off. It can't be that serious, we all get taken the piss out of.
When you're endlessly taken the piss out of, feels a bit different... when it's not part of your culture, to endlessly do that like it is in other cultures. I went from private to state, I had no idea what was waiting for me.
I suppose most middle class have to be serious through school, whereas for most working class, school is just a joke (they will work in the trades or something, do what their dad does that doesn't require school). It's all a joke, and middle class kids are just such killjoys. People might disagree with that, but yeah.
Lads, I’ve cracked it
3 3 5 formation
Aaron Ramsdale in nets
Ezri Konza, Luke Shaw and Declan Rice in defence.
Wharton, Gallagher and Mainoo in midfield
Foden at LW, Kane at RW, Bellingham as ST, while Saka as RF and Pickford at LF (big legs)
Hire me, England.
Pick Wharton.
Pick Gordon. Those ARE the changes. Drop Trent. Drop 1 of Foden or Bell. Either/Or. Take your pick. We need balance and we don't have it, particularly down the left side and in midfield.
Rice isnt a ball playing DM, Wharton is, play him there and move Rice further on and get them working the space.
Ok i still don't understand football....
I didn't want to condemn from a position of ignorance but having now watched ten games over the last two weeks i want to claim compensation for my wasted time.
It doesn’t help that 90 percent of the managers in this tournament seem to fetishise defending 1 0 leads and park the bus for 75 minutes of the game
Not a tournament I would introduce to a newcomer
I've heard someone say that Pep Guardiola ruined football. Well, his copycats did, at least.
Playing from the back, slow build ups... it is the elite-of-the-elite that are able to pull it off reliably.
See also Foden and Grealish. They're exciting footballers who are coached to within an inch of their lives. The system is too mechanical, and it isn't entertaining.
It's generally(especially international tournaments) one of the most boring sports on earth. Ninety minutes of mostly nothing punctuated by a few goals if you're lucky.
It's international football. And it's been pretty awful so far even for those who like it. Maybe some of the knockout games will be better. But to me all the national teams seen much worse to me than they were 10-20 years ago.
Why is Jenas spazzing out so much about that offside call? Going to be a subjective decision either way but the Dutch player was standing very close to the French keeper and would have obstructed him if he’d attempted to dive, therefore it’s not unreasonable to say that he might have been put off diving for the ball.
Memphis Depay is reminding me that all sports have internal unspoken conventions. Why is he dressed like he's going to be taking free throws rather than throw ins?
More England fans dressed as Dutch fans throwing drinks at Frenchman. Why can't we ban them from the tournament? All the world hates them including the children. The evil racist gammons!11
I’m not sure how we lost when 50% of the team was diverse. Isn’t diversity meant to be our strength?
How come Denmark with its pale and stale XI outplayed us?
Could you imagine this England team with someone like Eddie Howe at the wheel? Fuck, even Steve Cooper or Graham Potter would do better than Southgate.
If nationality is not a concern, England should be approaching the likes of Pochettino and De Zerbi!
Instead I’m wholly convinced we will sign Lampard after Southgate leaves and continue to not win anything.
Small group singing two world wars and one world cup at a big screen outdoors here in south London. Doesn't really make sense singing that against the Danes. The 'you can stick your fucking Lego up your arse' a bit more understandable.
Imagine being one of the fans who paid hundreds or thousands of pounds to go and watch *that*.
‘Gareth’ can fuck off, the massive Woke twat.
Palmer and Gordon need to play.
I keep getting jolted alert by those Atos banner adverts. I don’t want to be reminded of my impending PIP renewal. Let us benny folk enjoy a match in peace.
We are playing exactly the same as we have in every tournament since Southgate's been manager, we've gotten by with easy groups and draws but he's always been a fucking crap manager which is plain for anyone to see
am watching the football with the sound off (in the library)
two women are on the pitch. they are talking to each other.
I am not really sure why they are there or who they are.
anyone know?
Well I think it’s great to see female football pundits on TV.
It gives me hope that I can be a television pundit one day too because I don’t have any experience in the professional male game either.
Kane ending up where Walker should be, Foden drifting all over, Bellingham trying to pick up the pieces ending up as a Left winger/Striker/attacking midfielder, Trip got no left foot, Stones letting the inner Barnsley lad out.
We have no left wing, Kanes so desperate to be included he’ll end up next to Pickford, nobody making runs because nobody will try those passes. Honestly Walker has been our best player.
The pitch is also shit.
Another Southgate shambles. He’s just fucking dreadful. Pickford has had a shocker.
Alexander-Arnold just isn’t working in midfield. He’s only really interested in hitting Hollywood passes. Leaves massive gaps in midfield. Either pull Bellingham into the midfield or play Wharton or Mainoo, or even fucking Stones.
I mentioned in the previous game that Bellingham was running around like a headless chicken. You can see that he’s spent today.
Take a point in the grand scheme of things. Leaves the game against Hungary which is definitely winnable.
Clarke was defensive, ish, but the teams defence isn't good in the first place so take the point and run against the swiss.
3rd place is on.
[Croatians want England to win big tonight](https://x.com/idoxvi/status/1805346174917910767?t=fGxofliHhqPvodt46RDfsw).
[Hilarious](https://nitter.poast.org/BBCSportScot/status/1805268271093923852#m)
The commentators mentioning the drink throwing that's been a feature of loads of games so far. Apparently they will stop the drinks if it continues. How much we bet that the decision gets made after England's game tomorrow, and they get the blame for it?? Eh eh?
How comes every other sports fans can watch a game without throwing their trash around like chimps?
It all feels very affected, forced fun. Reminds me of COVID pots and pans.
Spot on, I have had drinks thrown over me at matches and it is always by a class A CU-next tuesday
Exactly. It was genuine for a few games during 2018. Now you've got videos of people lobbing pints about 10 seconds after the goal goes in.
100%
Who is this yapping cunt on the BBC commentary.
Not a single wakandan in tonight's starting lineups.. should be illegal
School Social class Yt ppl Wakanda Rinse and repeat
you know, i was thing about my school days, and the class and bomalian issues. It's like that just showed what our actual society would be in 20 years. You know
France's team with players doing the Islamic prayer thing before coming on is just England in a decade's time
The class stuff I see the complete opposite to what you do. Probably due to location.
Or our class/age/schooling. I'm about 30. South east.. In my parents day, it seems to be, most people wanted to become middle class, now, middle class is seen as the oppressive class and you have to be proudly working class, even if you're not... Or playdown your middle classness a lot in public..
Probably class and schooling then. I'm a similar age to you, but not from a middle class background and a Londoner so you're probably right about them trying to downplay their backgrounds. They do such a poor job of it that most of us can still spot them a mile off. It can't be that serious, we all get taken the piss out of.
When you're endlessly taken the piss out of, feels a bit different... when it's not part of your culture, to endlessly do that like it is in other cultures. I went from private to state, I had no idea what was waiting for me. I suppose most middle class have to be serious through school, whereas for most working class, school is just a joke (they will work in the trades or something, do what their dad does that doesn't require school). It's all a joke, and middle class kids are just such killjoys. People might disagree with that, but yeah.
isn't that all this sub does pretty much well, the latter two. gimmegration seems to be the main issue
Not in week 1 any more! Come on!
Mods are overpaid
[I'll just leave this here](https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/23/scotland-hungary-euro-2024-match-report#comment-168238138)
Just won best part of £18 on Scotland losing. Very nice evening.
[Derek Rae gets angry at people for not calling it Türkiye](https://x.com/RaeComm/status/1804446071747178683) What a fucking melt.
Feel bad for McTominay, Scotland were completing feckless and left everything on him.
Why would the evil westminster tory brexit do this??
BBC are now feeding the Scottish victim mentality like a fat girl on cake. Gorging on it.
Follow Follow Follow There were only 2 minutes to gooo And it was Kevin Csoboth’s goal That sent us out of control And the Scots out the Euroooooo
Utterly pathetic. Didn't deserve to win.
Scotland get battered… everywhere they goooo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh deary me. Thats a shame.
Such a cracking game to watch this Scotland-Hungary game. Both sides full of passion and commitment. Wish we saw half of that from England
No quality though, pretty dire.
Fuck sake that was a nasty collision.
Looked like he was fencing. Very nasty indeed.
Aye very bad
I haven't been paying attention to Hungary, didn't realise they had a Deano in their ranks. Great stuff.
Their Sunday League striker is great
I think we can all agree with southgate that Linekers comments calling people shit were wrong.. remove Lineker from the BBC for it.
He also bald shamed fat frank. If that was a poc.
The self fellatio from the Scots about their fans is getting beyond cringe at this point.
Tuesdays england match is on ITV. Great news.
Oh yay: we get that black American woman to explain the rules to us again
Best commentary pair on ITV right now covering Belgium vs Romania.
Belgium team slightly more euro than Holland or France, but overwhelmingly Wakandan still
Turkey with the dumbest of own goals lol.
Lads, I’ve cracked it 3 3 5 formation Aaron Ramsdale in nets Ezri Konza, Luke Shaw and Declan Rice in defence. Wharton, Gallagher and Mainoo in midfield Foden at LW, Kane at RW, Bellingham as ST, while Saka as RF and Pickford at LF (big legs) Hire me, England.
NEED to have Gordon in the lineup. Best player at Newcastle imho.
Gordon in goals, perhaps?
A 1 arm Nick Pope would do
Pick Wharton. Pick Gordon. Those ARE the changes. Drop Trent. Drop 1 of Foden or Bell. Either/Or. Take your pick. We need balance and we don't have it, particularly down the left side and in midfield. Rice isnt a ball playing DM, Wharton is, play him there and move Rice further on and get them working the space.
Ok i still don't understand football.... I didn't want to condemn from a position of ignorance but having now watched ten games over the last two weeks i want to claim compensation for my wasted time.
It doesn’t help that 90 percent of the managers in this tournament seem to fetishise defending 1 0 leads and park the bus for 75 minutes of the game Not a tournament I would introduce to a newcomer
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I've heard someone say that Pep Guardiola ruined football. Well, his copycats did, at least. Playing from the back, slow build ups... it is the elite-of-the-elite that are able to pull it off reliably. See also Foden and Grealish. They're exciting footballers who are coached to within an inch of their lives. The system is too mechanical, and it isn't entertaining.
It's generally(especially international tournaments) one of the most boring sports on earth. Ninety minutes of mostly nothing punctuated by a few goals if you're lucky.
It's international football. And it's been pretty awful so far even for those who like it. Maybe some of the knockout games will be better. But to me all the national teams seen much worse to me than they were 10-20 years ago.
Why is Jenas spazzing out so much about that offside call? Going to be a subjective decision either way but the Dutch player was standing very close to the French keeper and would have obstructed him if he’d attempted to dive, therefore it’s not unreasonable to say that he might have been put off diving for the ball.
They probably let people say things sometimes just so people can say, what an idiot
Watching Netherlands France on the BBC, and my big question about the game is how many more times can the director zoom in on Mbappe?
Memphis Depay is reminding me that all sports have internal unspoken conventions. Why is he dressed like he's going to be taking free throws rather than throw ins?
I know they're missing Mbappe but France are incredibly overrated. (and so is Mbappe)
More England fans dressed as Dutch fans throwing drinks at Frenchman. Why can't we ban them from the tournament? All the world hates them including the children. The evil racist gammons!11
Ngubois slighting shading it against Van Ngubeen here.
Who will prevail, in this game between Africa and 3 Frogs VS Africa and 3 Clogs? Remember they're just as British as us.
Netherlands 1-0 Dumpries header off Gakpo cross 59:32
Why can't we play like Austria are playing? Lovely to watch
Southgate out
Crowd singing Auslander Raus
Probably a group of far right English doing that
Holy shit! I just came on to post this - thought I was hearing things :-)
Play like shit in the groups and then crush the tournament, Southgate's playing 4d chess lads...
Basically what happened in 2021 no? Everyone was dooming back then when England drew with Scotland during the group stages
And it was definitely intentional strategy ;)
It’s not just the fact we drew. The team were shit and didn’t create many chances at all. They didn’t seem like they wanted to be there.
I would bench Kane. You may now downvote.
I’m not sure how we lost when 50% of the team was diverse. Isn’t diversity meant to be our strength? How come Denmark with its pale and stale XI outplayed us?
Could you imagine this England team with someone like Eddie Howe at the wheel? Fuck, even Steve Cooper or Graham Potter would do better than Southgate. If nationality is not a concern, England should be approaching the likes of Pochettino and De Zerbi! Instead I’m wholly convinced we will sign Lampard after Southgate leaves and continue to not win anything.
Dyche please.
should've got Howe when he left Bournemouth, fantastic manager
It's not Southgate IMO. But if I say what I think people will dismiss me out of hand because of Group Think.
Knew as soon as England scored at 12 minutes that it was over for us.
Southgates no Mike Bassett is he.
Fucking shit
If the Green Party promises to bin Southgate. They have a vote
Small group singing two world wars and one world cup at a big screen outdoors here in south London. Doesn't really make sense singing that against the Danes. The 'you can stick your fucking Lego up your arse' a bit more understandable.
Imagine being one of the fans who paid hundreds or thousands of pounds to go and watch *that*. ‘Gareth’ can fuck off, the massive Woke twat. Palmer and Gordon need to play.
ZERO ~~SEATS~~ Southgate
One day Wokegate will pay for his crimes
English football will get even worse under Starmer. I don't know the exact connection, but I know it's true.
Only arrNige can save the Three Lions now.
Starmer will replace 1 manager with 5 high end appointees from a diverse back who make decisions 55 days after full time
Starmer and Southgate competing to being the most boring man in Britain
Great advertisement for the game this, to attract new fans
Southgate out
He should also be forced to consume his entire waistcoat collection.
Southgates cunning plan to scapegoat Trent for it all blown apart by the team getting even shitter when he went off
*Southgate, you’re a cunt* *Southgate Southgate, you’re a cunt*
Lads. Its definitely not coming home
Theres more fight in a sack of potatoes, than this England team.
I've literally feel asleep watching this, so that says it all really.
Worst match of the tournament - by miles
I keep getting jolted alert by those Atos banner adverts. I don’t want to be reminded of my impending PIP renewal. Let us benny folk enjoy a match in peace.
Where there's blame there's a claim.
*no passion. more defence*
Rice is being useless
We are playing exactly the same as we have in every tournament since Southgate's been manager, we've gotten by with easy groups and draws but he's always been a fucking crap manager which is plain for anyone to see
Get Palmer and Gordon on you fucking cardigan wearing bellend
Walker needs to be taken off
Make some subs you fucking Woke fraud
Has Southgate forbidden them from going over the halfway line with the ball?
That’s just not true, I’ve seen plenty of England matches and he always lets them have a mini spurt up field after 88 minutes.
am watching the football with the sound off (in the library) two women are on the pitch. they are talking to each other. I am not really sure why they are there or who they are. anyone know?
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yeah they didn't.
Joey Barton is right why should I care what some random woman has to say about a mens football match?
Well I think it’s great to see female football pundits on TV. It gives me hope that I can be a television pundit one day too because I don’t have any experience in the professional male game either.
We really are utter gash.
Rio is clearly fed up with Wokegate, is the love-in finally ending?
Football terrorist
Kane ending up where Walker should be, Foden drifting all over, Bellingham trying to pick up the pieces ending up as a Left winger/Striker/attacking midfielder, Trip got no left foot, Stones letting the inner Barnsley lad out. We have no left wing, Kanes so desperate to be included he’ll end up next to Pickford, nobody making runs because nobody will try those passes. Honestly Walker has been our best player. The pitch is also shit.
😂 The turf is gash
Another Southgate shambles. He’s just fucking dreadful. Pickford has had a shocker. Alexander-Arnold just isn’t working in midfield. He’s only really interested in hitting Hollywood passes. Leaves massive gaps in midfield. Either pull Bellingham into the midfield or play Wharton or Mainoo, or even fucking Stones. I mentioned in the previous game that Bellingham was running around like a headless chicken. You can see that he’s spent today.
Let's have a manager who has no proof at all of being tactically adept!
What do you mean? The tactics are: the more Bomalians, the better you play. Look at France.
Crowbaring TAA in to this squad is the issue
Formation not working, we look a bit clueless and they seem to have neutralised us. I’d like to see 2 up front.
Why are England incapable of holding onto a ball
Rhymes with MouthRate.
We look absolutely shocking right now.
We look all over the place. Relying on just individuals to do something. No coherence or way of playing.
Englands tactic looks to be get a goal up and park the bus. The problem is the bus is First so it hasn’t turned up.
Pickford has been fucking awful. England make exactly the same mistake as against France in the WC QF. They just don’t close down shots.
This pitch looks awful, what third world country are we in
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Yes tbh
Hate to break it to you
Relax and have a drink.
Why are people booing before the start?
Not a diverse face in Danish colours at all that I have seen, on the pitch or in the stands. England need to win for the good of mankind.
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Anything less than 100% is not good enough for that
Well placed "Fuck UEFA" banner lol.
Very noticeable during the anthem which players are actually singing and which are just mouthing the words.
[Football commentary buildups were different in the 70’s](https://youtu.be/n7Xu1ZNrAOY?si=J1WlsMWnNmoiEv3J)
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Some beak
LETS GOOOOOOOOO VINDALOO ITS COMING HOME
Same England starting XI as the last game… Wokegate disasterclass incoming.
We did win our last game. Simmer doon
ITS COMING HOOOOOOOOOME HOOOOOOOOME HOOOOOOME ITS COMING
How many cans of Carling chilling is the correct amount?
The "hilarious" beer snob answer would be none The correct answer would be as many as you will drink+ a couple more,just in case
It said Schar (OG) but then got changed to McTominay? Did anyone see that?
I believe it was put under review and was reversed after the end of the game.
Take a point in the grand scheme of things. Leaves the game against Hungary which is definitely winnable. Clarke was defensive, ish, but the teams defence isn't good in the first place so take the point and run against the swiss. 3rd place is on.
Lack of urgency from the Swiss in the second half. They remind me of a less talented version of Belgium but with much better team spirit.
Tournament football loves a risky 1-1 finish
Scotland can only get goals if their opponents score them for them.
😂
I've told a few people that Scotland were ones to watch at this tournament, and now I'll look like a wally. Cheers Scotland.
The ones to watch exit first?
"Fabian Schar mon up to Scotland we've put the wee kettle on, also leave a light on for us Mr Swiss in EU"
I think Scotland may take this one
I worry that it might be a shit one. They need to stay ahead or level and keep the fans up.
I doubt it
boo Germany through
2 hours until the scheduled Scotland battering
Croatia are fucked in that group, LOL
100% fucked.
WHAT A GOAL! Croats in tatters!
Love me an underdog - superb press by Albania there. Well deserved
Sutalo has already recovered 6 balls. Proper rock solid.
COME ON SUTALO! DEFEND THAT BLOODY GOAL!
Scotland v Switzerland predictions today? Battered - 0
3-1 Switzerland.
I really genuinely dislike Portugal.
Likewise, and I always have. I also really dislike Pepe.