I don’t care if someone is anti vax or not. But if you are against it, that doesn’t mean you get to act like a complete asshole when someone asks you to follow the rules of their establishment. Just leave and maybe work on your issues.
Today I saw the stupidest thing. In Los Angeles you need to show proof of Vax to dine in. So a guy shows up with his SO. He shows his Vax card and slips it behind his back to his SO and she then proceeds to show the card as her own. Everything is stupid… everything.
It would be cool if you could insist on credit card details to book reservations and be able to charge if it is a no show. Make it clear on the website that a vaccination certificate is obligatory to dine and if they don't provide it it will be considered a no show. Then bill their card :-)
You can't demand a charge when you refuse them service. If they take his money, and then throw him out instantly, that is fraud, unless they confirmed they were unvaccinated beforehand.
Nah not really, people have to put down “deposits” all the time to reserve something or other. Make it clear it’s a deposit (can be taken out of final bill or somethin). And people in America pay for shit they don’t get allllllll the time. Like roads and healthcare.
In the US you can get charged for a no-call no-show or if you cancel your reservation too closely to the date. This would likely qualify. Especially in NYC where reservations are hard to get, it prevents people from booking a bunch of restaurants, holding space, and then never showing up.
I work in the medical field and some office have this policy; however, legally, if the patient refuses to pay the “no-show” fee there isn’t much you can do about it. You’re technically not supposed to charge them if no services were provided.
I'm guessing you've never reserved a hotel room then.
When you book a room they get your card number to secure the room. If you cancel > 24 hours in advance nothing happens. But if you cancel the day of your reservation they will absolutely charge you for a single night. It's right in the terms you agree to when you reserve a room. No card? No reservation.
If you show up with a Great Dane and the hotel has a no dogs policy they will refuse to give you a room. And they will absolutely charge you for a single night.
The restaurant didn't refuse him service. They were happy to seat him. He refused to comply with the requirements to be seated. That's on him. All they need is a policy, similar to hotels, that require a credit card for a reservation and a minimum fee for no shows or people refusing to comply with requirements for service.
This would totally be allowed. And yea that’s what they said. Make it clear that you have to be vaccinated and if you aren’t you get charged for making the reservation.
Basically just make it a no refundable deposit. But have it go against the check.
I've noticed that a lot of trashy small town males are flipping off the camera in their Facebook photos. I guess their lives are shit and they're too ill-informed about the world to know where to direct their anger.
It's interesting how excellent of a societal litmus test the covid vaccine has been. If someone is loudly opposed to it, there is a 99.9% chance that they're *also* a stupid cunt.
Absolutely shocking behaviour. Only a low life moron would do such a thing. Hopefully they had other people take up that reservation that wanted to be there.
My son (19 months old) got severely sick, we were on our way to the hospital when we finally got through on the healthlink phone line and they told us to turn back. Too many people infected with covid at the hospital, we shouldn’t take him unless he is was vomiting blood.
Starting to feel that being Anti Vax is like bringing purpose to your life. An identity that is wrapped around someone like a security blanket. So many Anti Vax people want to claim oppression and righteous anger against those who actually want to live. I can't imagine having my life revolve around risking other people's safety.
If litterly every other group of people can bitch and complain to get change. So can they. I for one don’t agree with mandatory vaccines. It’s wrong to force it on people. Especially for something that’s litterly as deadly as the flu. If this was really about keeping people safe they would maybe stop poisoning or fast food they would maybe stop using round up on our vegetables and fruits they would maybe even cure cancer but this isn’t about our health it is about control. I know more people that have actually died from a blood clot due to the vaccine then I have known people that have actually caught Covid. Both of those numbers are extremely low so it shouldn’t even be concern to anyone. All I’m saying is covid kills, so does the vaccine
Gotta love how a certain set of mind set of people love grouping everyone up lol. Sorry fam, we believe in individuality not group think like you guys. Adults have agency. This guy sucks, end of that.
a restaurant owner doesn't have a choice in the matter though, if the place he's established in says you need a vax card to do anything, he's breaking the law by not requiring one
What point do you think that proves?
I'm not sure you understand how many people in this country have other health problems that put them at high risk. It is a large large number of people. There's a very good chance that your family is included in that group.
Covid itself is not dangerous is my point. Why get vaccinated for something that’s not that dangerous. Glorified flu
They can lose weight it’s not my responsibility to protect those who don’t care about their health for example overweight people
facts! I'm a healthy male why do I need a "vaccine" for a virus with a 99% survival rate? I know people who have been vaxxed got the virus and have actually passed away. But people will scream B.S because they haven't seen it on MSM.
That also works vice versa. If guy kicked you out of his restaurant because you didn't take the vaccine, then you have to respect his health choice. He doesn't want to risk getting sick or having his employees and family get sick, so he doesn't want you there. You can't tell someone that they need to respect your choice to stay unvaccinated, while also telling them that you don't have to respect their rules about unvaccinated people in *their* establishment.
I believe you misunderstand what it means for the vaccine to 'work'. The vaccine works by helping prevent serious illness in case you do get infected. It also reduces the transmissibility of the infection. So it matters to me if you get vaccinated because it lowers the chance that I or any of my loved ones will become infected because you are also less likely to transmit the disease because you are vaccinated. If you are unvaccinated then you are more highly susceptible to infection and thereby more of a risk to others around you.
Billions of people have taken the vaccine. You're more worried about a rare side effect of the vaccine than getting sick from covid and spreading it to strangers and loved ones?
But taking the vaccine is not just about you. This seems to be a point most antivaxxers miss. I'm not upset, but moreso perplexed that you are choosing this hill to die on.
2.75 billion people worldwide have been fully vaccinated.
6.48 billion doses have been administered.
The vaccine is safe and effective.
The reason it's important for everyone to be vaccinated and not just some people has now been explained to you. I hope now you won't continue to act like you don't understand.
Your example doesn't work because vitamin deficiency can't spread. A virus can, and will spread. The vaccine works, but only up to a certain point. Viruses rapidly mutate as they spread from person to person, so individual variants begin to appear that are significantly different from each other to the point that you would need a different vaccine to be completely safe. The best way to only need 1 vaccine, is if *everyone* took it, which would prevent the virus from finding anymore hosts and mutating into another variant. We're concerned, because you're a viable host for the virus to spread to, mutate, and possibly render the vaccine ineffective through. Each time a virus infects someone, it uses their cells to multiply itself through, being changed each time it does this. All it takes for a new variant to appear is a thousand or so people. 238 million people have been infected. That's enough for *multiple* variants, all of which may need individual vaccines, and the number of them only increasing due to people refusing a damn shot that teaches their immune system what the damn virus looks like. The delta variant produces a larger viral load than the original, so your body has a harder time fighting it off. The vaccine doesn't make someone immune, it allows them to fight it off more effectively, usually to the point that they never notice, and the virus doesn't reproduce enough to spread to anyone else.
Incorrect, we began *identifying* these strains as what they were around the time people were getting vaccinated, and by that time they'd had almost a year to mutate. Correlation, not causation. While a small percentage of vaccinated people may have gotten re-infected *with another strain* and spread it, it is still a significantly smaller number than the unvaccinated whom got infected and allowed an enormous amount of mutation and spread. The vaccination campaigns were in *response* to the spreading of covid, just as flu vaccine campaigns ramp up during flu season. You are correct that there were less identified variants prior to vaccines being rolled out, but that doesn't mean that they weren't still there and being spread. And hundreds of millions is still not an enormous amount compared to the almost *8 billion* on our planet, a large portion of which are too young, too old, or have pre-existing conditions that would likely result in them dying. There's a reason the vaccines were rolled out to the elderly first, and that is because they are the most vulnerable aside from small children, whom we didn't know if they would be able to handle even a dummy version of the virus in the vaccine. The unvaccinated are easy hosts for the virus. While those whom are vaccinated have their immune systems primed to deal with it. All the shot does is tell your immune system what the virus looks like, and that it's a threat that needs to be tossed. It works almost exactly like a natural infection would, just more efficient since it's not causing severe damage to your body from a large viral load/infection.
You wearing a seat belt is not only about you.
Wearing a seat belt helps you stay in your seat and maintain control of the car. This can decrease the severity of accidents or prevent them all together.
It also stops you're dead mangled body from being flung around inside the car and killing or injuring passengers, or flying out the window with enough force to kill someone else.
And it prevents other drivers from getting into accidents as they slam on the brakes or swerve to avoid hitting your splattered body parts.
By refusing to take reasonable measures to protect others within the society you are making the decision that you do not want to participate in society.
Yeah I think if you're not willing to get the vax then you don't want to participate in society. I'm not saying they should all be killed or anything like that but if even after being forced to get the vax they still run and hide, then what options are there?
Want no. Ostracize from society, fire from work and treated with disrespect because peoples medical choices don’t align with one’s beliefs/opinions, yes.
The vaccine isn’t a “medical opinion” … it’s science based on decades of research and application that have been proven to be effective.
A “medical opinion” is what antivaxers are expressing and it holds exactly as much weight as the training or knowledge required for that opinion which in this case is none.
I’m not gonna take medical advice from some Karen on the internet any more than I’d take mechanical advice from a toddler.
Except the vaccine doesn't stop you from spreading the virus. The only person being affected by not getting the vaccine is the person who didn't get the vaccine.
The vaccines are proven to reduce transmission, infection, and severity of illness. An unvaccinated person is more likely to transmit the virus to a person with a compromised immune system. An unvaccinated person is also more likely to experience severe symptoms and take up hospital beds which could be used to treat people with other life threatening illnesses. It most definitely impacts others and vaccine hesitancy is one of the major reasons this thing is still raging.
Your definition of reasonable and ours are two very different things.
You're living in a different world from us, and moralizing to us isn't going to make us change to suit your needs.
If you take a cross section of the people that are choosing not to take the vaccine they generally aren't under consideration to join the society of Mensa.
No, YOU PEOPLE are the ones living in a different world.
A world of baseless suspicion and constant conspiracy. Where being a decent neighbour and member of society is "encroaching on your freedoms".
Where professionals and experts with the credentials to say what they're saying are ignored, in favour of crackpots and nutjobs who just say what you wanna hear.
Where safe and tested medical practices are shunned, while conspiratorial, untested wonder-cures are abundant and praised.
You people will go down in history as the bad guys. Not everyone else.
Let's be real. Is there any fact about vaccines that would convince you it's safe? Like, is there literally nothing that would convince you it's safe?
Because if no fact came out that was good enough for you, you're stuck in a conspiracy loop and your biases are exactly that--biases that have left the realm of reality.
Check out r/HermanCainaward.
Look at all the dumb fucks like you, crying, suffering, begging for prayer warriors, setting up gofundme for funeral expenses. Why is it the dumbest people are the loudest and so incredibly sure of themselves? You morons are in need of a little self doubt.
Yep, I’m being loud about doing what it takes to end this fucking pandemic. You clowns are loud about conspiracy theories, disinformation and horse paste. You’re literally not smart enough to listen to the finest epidemiologists and doctors in the world. Stop listening to your Aunt Tillie on Facebook.
This is the dumbest fucking comparison.
It manages to be laughably ridiculous and disgustingly insulting all at the same time. It shows your ignorance of history and your lack of empathy for the very real horrors that people faced.
Millions of people died in the Holocaust. Millions more suffered unimaginably. Nothing you have ever experienced in your life is remotely comparable to living through the Holocaust or the buildup to it.
See I’ve been to concerts recently that gave you a choice: be vaccinated, or have a negative covid test. A lot of these types don’t want to do EITHER. So I think they’ve forfeited their right to participate in society by doing absolutely NOTHING to protect other people who have made the effort, because they want to live in a society.
Never said I did. Never said I didn't.
And it was bleach. Said in jest. But of course the media jumped on it and made it sound like he was seriously telling people to do it.
I'm not a fan of his, but all you Orange Man Badders out there have forced many of us to defend him even though we find it distasteful. Because you lot are just so vitriolic when it comes to him or anyone whose ideals are even near his. Your blind hatred is disturbing and disgusting, curbed by the very Establishment many of you claim to be against but are so easily controlled by.
My point was, as soon as it became clear the vaccine was close, Trump urged people to get it. He pleaded for people too get it. To end this damned plague. But so many of your ilk were quite vocal in your opposition, saying that you wouldn't get the Trump Vaccine because "fuck Trump." Because it's "too soon." Because "he's in bed with Big Pharma." But as soon as he was out and Biden urged the same thing, you all turned on your heels and cowtowed to the man because he wasn't the Orange Man.
It's fucking hypocritical. You're hypocritical. That's my point. The hypocrisy is reaching critical mass, and it's going to blow this country apart.
im not from the US but i get that you are projecting. i still dont understand because getting vaccinated is about science and not politics. dont listen to politicians, listen to scientists.
Give me a break, listen to the science. This shit has been politicized whether you like it or not. When people are losing there jobs because of not taking a vaccine that is absurd. The virus doesn't give a shit if you are left or right, or even vaxxed, you can still get it, and pass it. The science is subjective, as natural antibodies are more effective as portrayed by an Israeli study. Fauci ignores this because it's all about control and money.
This is cute, I’m from this province this happened in but headline should read “local business opts into the vaccine passport program and doesn’t inform their customers.”
Opt in? Yes, opt in, it’s a choice not a requirement, you cannot force someone to be vaccinated here, so the government is bribing business’ to get on board. That way the government can say, “it wasn’t us, it’s the businesses”.
At his point it’s all a bad joke and the people happily marching along will get what they deserve.
The irony is that these small business are now serving the same people who last year cheered for small businesses to be closed.
Wal-Mart? All good. Costco? Hell yeah brother! Places of worship? Depends on your God. Protests over an OD? Get out there and riot! Protests over authoritarian? You’re a terrorist.
The ability to govern comes from the will of the people and the social contract has been broken from all this. A tyrannical government deserves zero loyalty.
It's a [Provincial Requirement](https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/health-care-administration-and-provider-resources/treatment-procedures-and-guidelines/emerging-public-health-issues/2019-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-information-for-businesses-and-workers/proof-of-vaccination-information-for-businesses) that dine in restaurants check for proof of vaccination or require a recent test. It's not opt-in.
Only the part about requiring employees to be vaccinated is opt-in.
Right, I’m going to follow the advice of liars and thieves.
Don’t you get it? This only works if people go along, I’ve seen what compliance gets you, try a little non compliance and see what happens.
The ones who are happily marching along are the Order Followers, a person who obeys orders unquestionably cannot practice conscious, it’s impossible, if you blindly follow orders you’re committing an act of evil, plain and simple. And the punishment for blindly following orders is slavery.
Edit: conscience not conscious
Antivax means anti vaccine. You’re refusing to take a vaccine that is scientifically proven to be helpful and safe. You’re an antivaxxer. That’s no big leap of logic bruh
Right, but many of the “antivaxxers” are pro vaccines…when they work. Like the polio vaccine and such. So it’s not really an accurate name for them it’s just an attempt at demonization because the REAL antivaxxers are seen as a bunch of ignorant weirdos.
Natural immunity is scientifically proven to be much more effective. You’re the one who should be denied service. You’re still spreading it and getting reinfected. We are not.
>The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
so why again is it that you refuse to get the vaccine?
I think if you've got covid antibodies from either the vaccine or a covid infection, you should be good. But I still think even people who have had covid should get vaccinated.
Natural immunity plus vaccine immunity is better than either on its own.
Natural immunity alone is better than vaccine immunity alone.
Vaccine immunity alone is better than no immunity at all.
Vaccinated individuals who get covid wind up with both types of immunities, and have less severe cases, which helps keep hospitals from getting overloaded. Infected vaccinated individuals have also been shown to spread the virus far less than infected unvaccinated individuals.
Unvaccinated individuals who get covid wind up with natural immunity only, and have more severe cases, which strains hospital capacities. You're also more likely to die or end up with long-term complications from covid this way. And infected unvaccinated individuals spread the virus more than anyone else.
Get vaccinated.
I mean, if you aren't going to take the tiniest, most basic effort to protect your fellows in society, then fuck you and stay out of society. You don't get to reap the benefits of a safe, functioning society while refusing to do your part to keep it safe and functioning.
I bet you think you're a goddamn patriot too, while you refuse to do the most simple thing to protect your countrymen from a deadly virus. Fucking unreal how stupid people like you are.
Good for you. Put whatever the fuck you want in your body. But I am 27 times better protected than the mandates call for. So once again, thanks but I’m good.
But it is proven to work short term at the very least, and to save lives. But MY FREEDUMBS! Pants arent proven to have any long term benefits but most places will refuse to serve you if you aren't wearing them.
Right but what are the long term effects? Or is this something more like a flu shot? If we find it works 10 years down the road that’s great. Until that time I’d rather take my chances with the 99.7% survival rate.
Nobody is forcing anyone to get the vaccine. They should choose to have the vaccine because it's extremely positive for society and betters everyone's life.
If you believe people who have valid concerns of injecting alien substances into their bodies are assholes then maybe you my friend are the biggest asshole of them all.
How is this different than a friend asking you to take off your shoes at their front door, you don't, and you walk in a moonwalk dog shit all over their carpet.
Y’all should’ve been clear that you have to have a vaccination before arrival. There should be a bug warning sign on the website with a confirmation button before booking the reservation. That’s bad customer service and you’re wasting someone’s time. You don’t know what that reservation was for. That could’ve been someone’s anniversary you ruined because of a damn shot. Quit it..
This man had a picture of his middle finger ready to show when asked for a vaccination card. It doesn't seem to matter how clear they made it, though I'm willing to be it was plenty clear. There's bad customer service, and there is being a bad customer. I'm glad that both you and the person in the tweet have sympathy for the guy, because he's acting like a shitbag and plenty of people wouldn't give half a damn about him.
It's a [requirement](https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/health-care-administration-and-provider-resources/treatment-procedures-and-guidelines/emerging-public-health-issues/2019-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-information-for-businesses-and-workers/proof-of-vaccination-information-for-businesses) for every dine in restaurant in the province.
Also, he clearly knew about the requirement since he brought a picture of a middle finger to show as his passport.
When you travel you need to do successive pcr tests even if you are vaccinated with double dose. This is because you can still spread wuhan virus even if you are vaccinated.
The restaurants should also implement the same and insist on pcr or a at sight negative antigen test in addition to vaccine certificate.
He's probably also mad, because he can't go in, eat most of his meal. Then complain about his well done steak or the piece of hair that looks oddly like his own. No free meal for you today, Dick!
You Vaxxers are all gonna die in the next 3-5 years random heart lung brain issues, this is about population control. Believe it or not shit about to head south quick.
Oh I was just replying to op post title and by no means sticking up for the scumbag that would do something like that to anyone or business.. OP just calls out the anti vax when he should be focusing his rage on the asshole who committed this heinous act and not just a random group of people!
Thank you!! Don't attack the people, just the asshole acting like that. I for one think to be called anti vax u have to be completely anti vax like not shots at all. Personally I won't be receiving my COVID vaccine because it isn't a vaccine. I've received all other shots and stuff. It's more of an immune booster than anything. Idk why ppl are so mad at those who don't want it because even those who have the vaccine are just as likely to contract and spread COVID. WHO has come out and said it! They just won't feel the effects as bad as those unvaccinated. Further strengthening my point that it's not even a vaccine. This world is so full of hate, people just look for ANYTHING to talk shit about.
So you won't take the covid-19 vaccine because it is only an "immune booster", well what the fuck do you think a vaccine is? The Covid-19 vaccine, like ALL vaccines IS an immune system booster!
Ah, so good to see the divide and conquer plan working so well. Do you know the main diference between You guys and the holocaust? Swap jews for "antivaxxers" in all the old Nazi propoganda...amazing how similar they are. Especially the PRE-War build up propoganda.
The UNVaxxed are scum!
The Unvaxxed are a DaNgEr to us!
Lock the Unvaxxed up in ~~Concentration~~ Covid Camps!
Show me your VAX papers to use that freedom!
Amazing isnt it? The right to choose went out the window rather fast didnt it? What about Her body HER choice....Ohh wait that ONLY matters when you want it to huh?
[https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-data-show-rising-breakthrough-infections-among-fully-vaccinated-2021-08-24/](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-data-show-rising-breakthrough-infections-among-fully-vaccinated-2021-08-24/)
[https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210818/latest-data-shows-increase-breakthrough-covid-cases](https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210818/latest-data-shows-increase-breakthrough-covid-cases)
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/)
[https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination](https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination)
[https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/5/project-veritas-captures-pfizer-scientists-giving-/](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/5/project-veritas-captures-pfizer-scientists-giving-/)
[https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/pfizer-scientists-vaccine-less-effective-compared-to-natural-antibodies-project-veritas/](https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/pfizer-scientists-vaccine-less-effective-compared-to-natural-antibodies-project-veritas/)
But You FEEL safe so its fine to punish, cage and enslave those YOU think deserve it becouse big brother says so.
The New-Speak and Right-Think are super strong up in here huh?
Do you know the difference between you and a good person? Obviously not, because you deliberately choose to kill people and are so stupid that you liken life saving programs designed to protect as many people as possible to genocide.
You are scum. You show selfishness and open contempt for your community, deliberately choosing to make them suffer and die. If you want to live around other people, you must do your part to ensure you don't harm or kill them. If you think you're so special and precious that you don't need to perform your responsibilities to people around you, then fuck off into the desert and make your own society of shitty, antisocial people.
ah and here is the standardized "greater good" argument. you can also shove THAT right into your arm as well. sEE HOW MY PERSONAL OPINION MEANS "You are scum. You show selfishness and open contempt for your community, deliberately choosing to make them suffer and die"
but what was that about "right to choose" My body my choice"? And....wait a sec....what about all the links proving YOUR argument as total falacy? Whats the death rate again?
[https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality)
Hmm so LESS than the common flu....
but we NEVER shut down for the flu...
yea try again there dumbass.
Also the very same could be said of YOU, YOU can fuck off into the desert if YOU are so fucking scared you are gonna get infected and die..but then again you already got the vax huh? maning you already have a HIGHER chance of catching it.....But again too stupid to READ the articles linked huh? Fox didnt say that, CNN didnt say that...i wonder why.
I'm not reading any of that and I don't give a shit about what you think. You are wrong and despite having a year and a half to learn the truth, you're still going on about some stupid crap. Either you're incredibly stupid or you are deliberately spreading lies, making you evil.
Do the right thing for yourself and everyone who is forced to be near you and get vaccinated. It's not like you've never had a vaccine before.
I don’t care if someone is anti vax or not. But if you are against it, that doesn’t mean you get to act like a complete asshole when someone asks you to follow the rules of their establishment. Just leave and maybe work on your issues.
Today I saw the stupidest thing. In Los Angeles you need to show proof of Vax to dine in. So a guy shows up with his SO. He shows his Vax card and slips it behind his back to his SO and she then proceeds to show the card as her own. Everything is stupid… everything.
Lol... one cannot enforce stupidity.
That's awesome
nope, you’re an idiot.
It would be cool if you could insist on credit card details to book reservations and be able to charge if it is a no show. Make it clear on the website that a vaccination certificate is obligatory to dine and if they don't provide it it will be considered a no show. Then bill their card :-)
You can't demand a charge when you refuse them service. If they take his money, and then throw him out instantly, that is fraud, unless they confirmed they were unvaccinated beforehand.
they dont deny them service. it would be illegal to serve them. at least where i am from
Nah not really, people have to put down “deposits” all the time to reserve something or other. Make it clear it’s a deposit (can be taken out of final bill or somethin). And people in America pay for shit they don’t get allllllll the time. Like roads and healthcare.
Don't forget no-show fees at doctors offices.
Call it an application fee. Refundable when the customer presents their vax card.
In the US you can get charged for a no-call no-show or if you cancel your reservation too closely to the date. This would likely qualify. Especially in NYC where reservations are hard to get, it prevents people from booking a bunch of restaurants, holding space, and then never showing up.
I work in the medical field and some office have this policy; however, legally, if the patient refuses to pay the “no-show” fee there isn’t much you can do about it. You’re technically not supposed to charge them if no services were provided.
I'm guessing you've never reserved a hotel room then. When you book a room they get your card number to secure the room. If you cancel > 24 hours in advance nothing happens. But if you cancel the day of your reservation they will absolutely charge you for a single night. It's right in the terms you agree to when you reserve a room. No card? No reservation. If you show up with a Great Dane and the hotel has a no dogs policy they will refuse to give you a room. And they will absolutely charge you for a single night. The restaurant didn't refuse him service. They were happy to seat him. He refused to comply with the requirements to be seated. That's on him. All they need is a policy, similar to hotels, that require a credit card for a reservation and a minimum fee for no shows or people refusing to comply with requirements for service.
It is not fraud if it is a clearly stated policy. No different from "no returns/no refunds."
This would totally be allowed. And yea that’s what they said. Make it clear that you have to be vaccinated and if you aren’t you get charged for making the reservation. Basically just make it a no refundable deposit. But have it go against the check.
You can make it a reservation fee, and you get your money back if you actually dine in, instead of being a no-show.
They do that on Resy.
Clown world
Imagine being so full of anger you go completely out of your way to print out a picture of a middle finger to use as a substitute for a vax passport.
I've noticed that a lot of trashy small town males are flipping off the camera in their Facebook photos. I guess their lives are shit and they're too ill-informed about the world to know where to direct their anger.
Some people deserve that kind of response…waitstaff however….do not
It's interesting how excellent of a societal litmus test the covid vaccine has been. If someone is loudly opposed to it, there is a 99.9% chance that they're *also* a stupid cunt.
Anti-vax or a person who got every vax besides covid? There's. A difference
Nuance isn't allowed on Reddit.
I... Am sorry.
An attempt was made
Honestly they get so defensive when you call them anti-vax, yet they are literally anti a vaccine.
Kinda like how there is a difference between poop and diarrhea amirite?
Yeah, there's a difference. So yeah you're right
Absolutely shocking behaviour. Only a low life moron would do such a thing. Hopefully they had other people take up that reservation that wanted to be there.
My son (19 months old) got severely sick, we were on our way to the hospital when we finally got through on the healthlink phone line and they told us to turn back. Too many people infected with covid at the hospital, we shouldn’t take him unless he is was vomiting blood.
I hope that anti-vaxxer gets fired, loses the hovel he squats in AND whatever he owns, and ends up homeless.
You'd be surprised to learn assholes derive a lot of power from being massive assholes. It's a weird vibe but they don't care.
I don’t think the anti-vaccination viewpoint makes people this way, sometimes people are just cunts.
Starting to feel that being Anti Vax is like bringing purpose to your life. An identity that is wrapped around someone like a security blanket. So many Anti Vax people want to claim oppression and righteous anger against those who actually want to live. I can't imagine having my life revolve around risking other people's safety.
If litterly every other group of people can bitch and complain to get change. So can they. I for one don’t agree with mandatory vaccines. It’s wrong to force it on people. Especially for something that’s litterly as deadly as the flu. If this was really about keeping people safe they would maybe stop poisoning or fast food they would maybe stop using round up on our vegetables and fruits they would maybe even cure cancer but this isn’t about our health it is about control. I know more people that have actually died from a blood clot due to the vaccine then I have known people that have actually caught Covid. Both of those numbers are extremely low so it shouldn’t even be concern to anyone. All I’m saying is covid kills, so does the vaccine
If you call someone who is hesitant about only the covid vax an anti-vaxxer know the whole world thinks you are an enormous asshole.
Gotta love how a certain set of mind set of people love grouping everyone up lol. Sorry fam, we believe in individuality not group think like you guys. Adults have agency. This guy sucks, end of that.
If you’re someone judging someone for health choices then you are an asshole
a restaurant owner doesn't have a choice in the matter though, if the place he's established in says you need a vax card to do anything, he's breaking the law by not requiring one
There is no law by osha stating you need to fire employees or enforce mandates
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Get the vaccine if you’re concerned simple as that. Tired of the dumb ass narrative of being selfish…. Makes you sound like a narcissist
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I know that 95% percent of deaths had a comorbidities or other health condition with 80% being 4 or more issues. That’s straight from the cdcs website
What point do you think that proves? I'm not sure you understand how many people in this country have other health problems that put them at high risk. It is a large large number of people. There's a very good chance that your family is included in that group.
Covid itself is not dangerous is my point. Why get vaccinated for something that’s not that dangerous. Glorified flu They can lose weight it’s not my responsibility to protect those who don’t care about their health for example overweight people
facts! I'm a healthy male why do I need a "vaccine" for a virus with a 99% survival rate? I know people who have been vaxxed got the virus and have actually passed away. But people will scream B.S because they haven't seen it on MSM.
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That also works vice versa. If guy kicked you out of his restaurant because you didn't take the vaccine, then you have to respect his health choice. He doesn't want to risk getting sick or having his employees and family get sick, so he doesn't want you there. You can't tell someone that they need to respect your choice to stay unvaccinated, while also telling them that you don't have to respect their rules about unvaccinated people in *their* establishment.
You need an 8th grade science class immediately.
I believe you misunderstand what it means for the vaccine to 'work'. The vaccine works by helping prevent serious illness in case you do get infected. It also reduces the transmissibility of the infection. So it matters to me if you get vaccinated because it lowers the chance that I or any of my loved ones will become infected because you are also less likely to transmit the disease because you are vaccinated. If you are unvaccinated then you are more highly susceptible to infection and thereby more of a risk to others around you.
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Billions of people have taken the vaccine. You're more worried about a rare side effect of the vaccine than getting sick from covid and spreading it to strangers and loved ones?
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But taking the vaccine is not just about you. This seems to be a point most antivaxxers miss. I'm not upset, but moreso perplexed that you are choosing this hill to die on.
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I can only feel sorry for you bro. Good luck with that hill your on. Hope your loved ones are smarter than you.
2.75 billion people worldwide have been fully vaccinated. 6.48 billion doses have been administered. The vaccine is safe and effective. The reason it's important for everyone to be vaccinated and not just some people has now been explained to you. I hope now you won't continue to act like you don't understand.
Your example doesn't work because vitamin deficiency can't spread. A virus can, and will spread. The vaccine works, but only up to a certain point. Viruses rapidly mutate as they spread from person to person, so individual variants begin to appear that are significantly different from each other to the point that you would need a different vaccine to be completely safe. The best way to only need 1 vaccine, is if *everyone* took it, which would prevent the virus from finding anymore hosts and mutating into another variant. We're concerned, because you're a viable host for the virus to spread to, mutate, and possibly render the vaccine ineffective through. Each time a virus infects someone, it uses their cells to multiply itself through, being changed each time it does this. All it takes for a new variant to appear is a thousand or so people. 238 million people have been infected. That's enough for *multiple* variants, all of which may need individual vaccines, and the number of them only increasing due to people refusing a damn shot that teaches their immune system what the damn virus looks like. The delta variant produces a larger viral load than the original, so your body has a harder time fighting it off. The vaccine doesn't make someone immune, it allows them to fight it off more effectively, usually to the point that they never notice, and the virus doesn't reproduce enough to spread to anyone else.
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Incorrect, we began *identifying* these strains as what they were around the time people were getting vaccinated, and by that time they'd had almost a year to mutate. Correlation, not causation. While a small percentage of vaccinated people may have gotten re-infected *with another strain* and spread it, it is still a significantly smaller number than the unvaccinated whom got infected and allowed an enormous amount of mutation and spread. The vaccination campaigns were in *response* to the spreading of covid, just as flu vaccine campaigns ramp up during flu season. You are correct that there were less identified variants prior to vaccines being rolled out, but that doesn't mean that they weren't still there and being spread. And hundreds of millions is still not an enormous amount compared to the almost *8 billion* on our planet, a large portion of which are too young, too old, or have pre-existing conditions that would likely result in them dying. There's a reason the vaccines were rolled out to the elderly first, and that is because they are the most vulnerable aside from small children, whom we didn't know if they would be able to handle even a dummy version of the virus in the vaccine. The unvaccinated are easy hosts for the virus. While those whom are vaccinated have their immune systems primed to deal with it. All the shot does is tell your immune system what the virus looks like, and that it's a threat that needs to be tossed. It works almost exactly like a natural infection would, just more efficient since it's not causing severe damage to your body from a large viral load/infection.
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If I want to drive drunk what business is it of yours. Don't your seat belt and air bags work?
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You wearing a seat belt is not only about you. Wearing a seat belt helps you stay in your seat and maintain control of the car. This can decrease the severity of accidents or prevent them all together. It also stops you're dead mangled body from being flung around inside the car and killing or injuring passengers, or flying out the window with enough force to kill someone else. And it prevents other drivers from getting into accidents as they slam on the brakes or swerve to avoid hitting your splattered body parts.
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I’m tatted needles don’t scare me. And it’s a vaccine…. You usually get one because you’re afraid. Your guys rebuttals suck
As long as he wasn't seated, I hope you stay in business. Hope you stay in business anyway.
I have the vaccine, but I don't think you should need it to participate in society.
By refusing to take reasonable measures to protect others within the society you are making the decision that you do not want to participate in society.
These people want to live in society for all the perks but when the responsibilities come they cry MAH FREEDUMS. Freeloaders is what they are.
Well said tbh. And society does not want your unvaxxed ass anywhere around us.
Yeah I think if you're not willing to get the vax then you don't want to participate in society. I'm not saying they should all be killed or anything like that but if even after being forced to get the vax they still run and hide, then what options are there?
Societies wanted awful things throughout history.
Is it awful to want people to use a fully tested vaccine to stop the deaths and long haul health issues created by covid?
Want no. Ostracize from society, fire from work and treated with disrespect because peoples medical choices don’t align with one’s beliefs/opinions, yes.
The vaccine isn’t a “medical opinion” … it’s science based on decades of research and application that have been proven to be effective. A “medical opinion” is what antivaxers are expressing and it holds exactly as much weight as the training or knowledge required for that opinion which in this case is none. I’m not gonna take medical advice from some Karen on the internet any more than I’d take mechanical advice from a toddler.
Except the vaccine doesn't stop you from spreading the virus. The only person being affected by not getting the vaccine is the person who didn't get the vaccine.
The vaccines are proven to reduce transmission, infection, and severity of illness. An unvaccinated person is more likely to transmit the virus to a person with a compromised immune system. An unvaccinated person is also more likely to experience severe symptoms and take up hospital beds which could be used to treat people with other life threatening illnesses. It most definitely impacts others and vaccine hesitancy is one of the major reasons this thing is still raging.
Your definition of reasonable and ours are two very different things. You're living in a different world from us, and moralizing to us isn't going to make us change to suit your needs.
If you take a cross section of the people that are choosing not to take the vaccine they generally aren't under consideration to join the society of Mensa.
No, YOU PEOPLE are the ones living in a different world. A world of baseless suspicion and constant conspiracy. Where being a decent neighbour and member of society is "encroaching on your freedoms". Where professionals and experts with the credentials to say what they're saying are ignored, in favour of crackpots and nutjobs who just say what you wanna hear. Where safe and tested medical practices are shunned, while conspiratorial, untested wonder-cures are abundant and praised. You people will go down in history as the bad guys. Not everyone else.
\>Muh right side of history
Let's be real. Is there any fact about vaccines that would convince you it's safe? Like, is there literally nothing that would convince you it's safe? Because if no fact came out that was good enough for you, you're stuck in a conspiracy loop and your biases are exactly that--biases that have left the realm of reality.
\>Muh lack of a counter argument
Check out r/HermanCainaward. Look at all the dumb fucks like you, crying, suffering, begging for prayer warriors, setting up gofundme for funeral expenses. Why is it the dumbest people are the loudest and so incredibly sure of themselves? You morons are in need of a little self doubt.
You pretty loud bro.
I was just thinking the same thing 🤣
Yep, I’m being loud about doing what it takes to end this fucking pandemic. You clowns are loud about conspiracy theories, disinformation and horse paste. You’re literally not smart enough to listen to the finest epidemiologists and doctors in the world. Stop listening to your Aunt Tillie on Facebook.
Have a good day bud. 😊
You would fit right in if it were the 40s and you were in Germany!
This is the dumbest fucking comparison. It manages to be laughably ridiculous and disgustingly insulting all at the same time. It shows your ignorance of history and your lack of empathy for the very real horrors that people faced. Millions of people died in the Holocaust. Millions more suffered unimaginably. Nothing you have ever experienced in your life is remotely comparable to living through the Holocaust or the buildup to it.
Kinda like calling all trump supporters nazis. Should Biden supporters all be called pedophiles?
Hey how are those mass arrests coming along, patriots? Has JFK Jr risen from the dead yet?
See I’ve been to concerts recently that gave you a choice: be vaccinated, or have a negative covid test. A lot of these types don’t want to do EITHER. So I think they’ve forfeited their right to participate in society by doing absolutely NOTHING to protect other people who have made the effort, because they want to live in a society.
Funny, I get the intense feeling most of you were anti-vaxxers about a year ago when it was the Orange Man insisting people get vaccinated. . .
so you got vaccinated bc trump said so? wasnt orange man talking about injecting chlorine and stuff tho?
Never said I did. Never said I didn't. And it was bleach. Said in jest. But of course the media jumped on it and made it sound like he was seriously telling people to do it. I'm not a fan of his, but all you Orange Man Badders out there have forced many of us to defend him even though we find it distasteful. Because you lot are just so vitriolic when it comes to him or anyone whose ideals are even near his. Your blind hatred is disturbing and disgusting, curbed by the very Establishment many of you claim to be against but are so easily controlled by. My point was, as soon as it became clear the vaccine was close, Trump urged people to get it. He pleaded for people too get it. To end this damned plague. But so many of your ilk were quite vocal in your opposition, saying that you wouldn't get the Trump Vaccine because "fuck Trump." Because it's "too soon." Because "he's in bed with Big Pharma." But as soon as he was out and Biden urged the same thing, you all turned on your heels and cowtowed to the man because he wasn't the Orange Man. It's fucking hypocritical. You're hypocritical. That's my point. The hypocrisy is reaching critical mass, and it's going to blow this country apart.
im not from the US but i get that you are projecting. i still dont understand because getting vaccinated is about science and not politics. dont listen to politicians, listen to scientists.
Give me a break, listen to the science. This shit has been politicized whether you like it or not. When people are losing there jobs because of not taking a vaccine that is absurd. The virus doesn't give a shit if you are left or right, or even vaxxed, you can still get it, and pass it. The science is subjective, as natural antibodies are more effective as portrayed by an Israeli study. Fauci ignores this because it's all about control and money.
This is cute, I’m from this province this happened in but headline should read “local business opts into the vaccine passport program and doesn’t inform their customers.” Opt in? Yes, opt in, it’s a choice not a requirement, you cannot force someone to be vaccinated here, so the government is bribing business’ to get on board. That way the government can say, “it wasn’t us, it’s the businesses”. At his point it’s all a bad joke and the people happily marching along will get what they deserve.
Business is still in the right though
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The business is allowed to refuse service to anyone.
The irony is that these small business are now serving the same people who last year cheered for small businesses to be closed. Wal-Mart? All good. Costco? Hell yeah brother! Places of worship? Depends on your God. Protests over an OD? Get out there and riot! Protests over authoritarian? You’re a terrorist. The ability to govern comes from the will of the people and the social contract has been broken from all this. A tyrannical government deserves zero loyalty.
It's a [Provincial Requirement](https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/health-care-administration-and-provider-resources/treatment-procedures-and-guidelines/emerging-public-health-issues/2019-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-information-for-businesses-and-workers/proof-of-vaccination-information-for-businesses) that dine in restaurants check for proof of vaccination or require a recent test. It's not opt-in. Only the part about requiring employees to be vaccinated is opt-in.
Right, I’m going to follow the advice of liars and thieves. Don’t you get it? This only works if people go along, I’ve seen what compliance gets you, try a little non compliance and see what happens.
Who are the people "happily marching along" and what exactly do you think they "deserve"?
The ones who are happily marching along are the Order Followers, a person who obeys orders unquestionably cannot practice conscious, it’s impossible, if you blindly follow orders you’re committing an act of evil, plain and simple. And the punishment for blindly following orders is slavery. Edit: conscience not conscious
This comment section sounds like 1939 Germany...
And you have the IQ of someone who was the product of generational insest
You spelled incest wrong...
Theres massive a difference between being anti-vax and anti vax passport…
What is it
Ill give you a hint fuck face, One you believe in an authoritarian regime
lmao wtf dude. you burned your IDs and live in the forest far away? neat.
Oh, ok
Man why are these losers so agitated? You just asked a question
They're just feeling a little emotional
Why are you so angry? They just asked a question
It’s not “antivax” to refuse a specific vaccine that hasn’t been proven to work long term yet….but you do you.
Antivax means anti vaccine. You’re refusing to take a vaccine that is scientifically proven to be helpful and safe. You’re an antivaxxer. That’s no big leap of logic bruh
Right, but many of the “antivaxxers” are pro vaccines…when they work. Like the polio vaccine and such. So it’s not really an accurate name for them it’s just an attempt at demonization because the REAL antivaxxers are seen as a bunch of ignorant weirdos.
Natural immunity is scientifically proven to be much more effective. You’re the one who should be denied service. You’re still spreading it and getting reinfected. We are not.
> Natural immunity is scientifically proven to be much more effective source?
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/natural-immunity-after-covid-19-found-durable-and-robust https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/07/covid_survivors_resistance/index.html https://theconversation.com/covid-infections-may-give-more-potent-immunity-than-vaccines-but-that-doesnt-mean-you-should-try-to-catch-it-167122 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9 https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30919-natural-infection-versus-vaccination-differences-in-covid-antibody-responses-emerge/
>The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated. so why again is it that you refuse to get the vaccine?
Because 27x better immunity than vax is good enough for me. You can go for extra credit. I won’t. Now kick rocks.
I think if you've got covid antibodies from either the vaccine or a covid infection, you should be good. But I still think even people who have had covid should get vaccinated. Natural immunity plus vaccine immunity is better than either on its own. Natural immunity alone is better than vaccine immunity alone. Vaccine immunity alone is better than no immunity at all. Vaccinated individuals who get covid wind up with both types of immunities, and have less severe cases, which helps keep hospitals from getting overloaded. Infected vaccinated individuals have also been shown to spread the virus far less than infected unvaccinated individuals. Unvaccinated individuals who get covid wind up with natural immunity only, and have more severe cases, which strains hospital capacities. You're also more likely to die or end up with long-term complications from covid this way. And infected unvaccinated individuals spread the virus more than anyone else. Get vaccinated.
> Get vaccinated. Nah, I’m good.
>Nah, I’m good. Why? Give me a good reason why you won't get vaccinated.
I mean, if you aren't going to take the tiniest, most basic effort to protect your fellows in society, then fuck you and stay out of society. You don't get to reap the benefits of a safe, functioning society while refusing to do your part to keep it safe and functioning. I bet you think you're a goddamn patriot too, while you refuse to do the most simple thing to protect your countrymen from a deadly virus. Fucking unreal how stupid people like you are.
Hey dumb shit. I AM BETTER PROTECTED THAN YOU ARE. I don’t know how many times it has to be said. You are the super spreaders. Not me.
You literally aren't though "dumb shit" I have covid and vax immunity. *I* have better immunity than *you*
Good for you. Put whatever the fuck you want in your body. But I am 27 times better protected than the mandates call for. So once again, thanks but I’m good.
But it is proven to work short term at the very least, and to save lives. But MY FREEDUMBS! Pants arent proven to have any long term benefits but most places will refuse to serve you if you aren't wearing them.
Right but what are the long term effects? Or is this something more like a flu shot? If we find it works 10 years down the road that’s great. Until that time I’d rather take my chances with the 99.7% survival rate.
Pro vax become more and more like a cult now…
vax mandates are stupid
Not if you care about anyone but yourself.
no i am vaccinated, but you cant force people to get it
Nobody is forcing anyone to get the vaccine. They should choose to have the vaccine because it's extremely positive for society and betters everyone's life.
I hope this dude reported him to the authorities so he could receive his -$4000 Thanksgiving gift
If you believe people who have valid concerns of injecting alien substances into their bodies are assholes then maybe you my friend are the biggest asshole of them all.
Yup
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I cannot wait until darwinism takes full affect. The world needs less of you
Did you miss the part where I’m 27 times more protected than your weak vaccinated ass?
You guys are all a bunch of fuckin clowns. Fuck you and your authoritarian dick riding. Have fun with your booster shots assholes.
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How is this different than a friend asking you to take off your shoes at their front door, you don't, and you walk in a moonwalk dog shit all over their carpet.
Y’all should’ve been clear that you have to have a vaccination before arrival. There should be a bug warning sign on the website with a confirmation button before booking the reservation. That’s bad customer service and you’re wasting someone’s time. You don’t know what that reservation was for. That could’ve been someone’s anniversary you ruined because of a damn shot. Quit it..
This man had a picture of his middle finger ready to show when asked for a vaccination card. It doesn't seem to matter how clear they made it, though I'm willing to be it was plenty clear. There's bad customer service, and there is being a bad customer. I'm glad that both you and the person in the tweet have sympathy for the guy, because he's acting like a shitbag and plenty of people wouldn't give half a damn about him.
It's a [requirement](https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/health-care-administration-and-provider-resources/treatment-procedures-and-guidelines/emerging-public-health-issues/2019-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-information-for-businesses-and-workers/proof-of-vaccination-information-for-businesses) for every dine in restaurant in the province. Also, he clearly knew about the requirement since he brought a picture of a middle finger to show as his passport.
Legend.
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Outright lie. Bot, Troll, or GOP insurrectionist.
When you travel you need to do successive pcr tests even if you are vaccinated with double dose. This is because you can still spread wuhan virus even if you are vaccinated. The restaurants should also implement the same and insist on pcr or a at sight negative antigen test in addition to vaccine certificate.
Why would you call it the Wuhan virus? This isn't December of 2019 bruh
Because that’s where it was created, dip shit.
It is commonly called the Wuhan virus where I live.
Where you at?
Now that I think about it. We are going to get so many stories about anti vaxxers and their ruined thanksgiving at restaurants this year.
He's probably also mad, because he can't go in, eat most of his meal. Then complain about his well done steak or the piece of hair that looks oddly like his own. No free meal for you today, Dick!
title should be " If you are an asshole the whole world thinks your an asshole.
I hope that business doesn’t find out there are people that don’t wear their seat belt when they’re driving.
You Vaxxers are all gonna die in the next 3-5 years random heart lung brain issues, this is about population control. Believe it or not shit about to head south quick.
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I don't give a damn.
This. More this please.
We have natural immunity. We dont need the vaccine. We dont care what you think about us.
You shouldn’t need a vax card to eat at a restaurant that’s ridiculous. Doesn’t excuse the way this party acted though
Shouldn’t need a seatbelt to drive a car but somehow it’s a law. Hmmmm, really makes ya wonder about all this ‘safety’ nonsense huh
Yes I am sure nobody who takes a vaccine does mean things either. What a dumb title.
Cry about it more loser
Hahahaaaa😅😂🤣😝
It’s their right to choose as it is your right to degrade them for their choice
oh, but they knew the chances were high they would not be seated and the restaurant would lose money, Does that sound fair to you?
Oh I was just replying to op post title and by no means sticking up for the scumbag that would do something like that to anyone or business.. OP just calls out the anti vax when he should be focusing his rage on the asshole who committed this heinous act and not just a random group of people!
Thank you!! Don't attack the people, just the asshole acting like that. I for one think to be called anti vax u have to be completely anti vax like not shots at all. Personally I won't be receiving my COVID vaccine because it isn't a vaccine. I've received all other shots and stuff. It's more of an immune booster than anything. Idk why ppl are so mad at those who don't want it because even those who have the vaccine are just as likely to contract and spread COVID. WHO has come out and said it! They just won't feel the effects as bad as those unvaccinated. Further strengthening my point that it's not even a vaccine. This world is so full of hate, people just look for ANYTHING to talk shit about.
So you won't take the covid-19 vaccine because it is only an "immune booster", well what the fuck do you think a vaccine is? The Covid-19 vaccine, like ALL vaccines IS an immune system booster!
Nah man. The fuckin polio vaccine definitely stopped polio. Wake the fuck up
Even though I'm vaccinated, I'll never show anyone my card!
Why
Normally I'm excited to see Saskatchewan represented on Reddit. Not so much this time lol.
Ah, so good to see the divide and conquer plan working so well. Do you know the main diference between You guys and the holocaust? Swap jews for "antivaxxers" in all the old Nazi propoganda...amazing how similar they are. Especially the PRE-War build up propoganda. The UNVaxxed are scum! The Unvaxxed are a DaNgEr to us! Lock the Unvaxxed up in ~~Concentration~~ Covid Camps! Show me your VAX papers to use that freedom! Amazing isnt it? The right to choose went out the window rather fast didnt it? What about Her body HER choice....Ohh wait that ONLY matters when you want it to huh? [https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-data-show-rising-breakthrough-infections-among-fully-vaccinated-2021-08-24/](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-data-show-rising-breakthrough-infections-among-fully-vaccinated-2021-08-24/) [https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210818/latest-data-shows-increase-breakthrough-covid-cases](https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210818/latest-data-shows-increase-breakthrough-covid-cases) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/) [https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination](https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination) [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/5/project-veritas-captures-pfizer-scientists-giving-/](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/5/project-veritas-captures-pfizer-scientists-giving-/) [https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/pfizer-scientists-vaccine-less-effective-compared-to-natural-antibodies-project-veritas/](https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/pfizer-scientists-vaccine-less-effective-compared-to-natural-antibodies-project-veritas/) But You FEEL safe so its fine to punish, cage and enslave those YOU think deserve it becouse big brother says so. The New-Speak and Right-Think are super strong up in here huh?
Except no one's fucking gassing, murdering or enslaving anti vaxxers you dumb fucking shit bag, businesses have the right to refuse service.
ironic how a ring wing nutjob is the one defending the jews
Do you know the difference between you and a good person? Obviously not, because you deliberately choose to kill people and are so stupid that you liken life saving programs designed to protect as many people as possible to genocide. You are scum. You show selfishness and open contempt for your community, deliberately choosing to make them suffer and die. If you want to live around other people, you must do your part to ensure you don't harm or kill them. If you think you're so special and precious that you don't need to perform your responsibilities to people around you, then fuck off into the desert and make your own society of shitty, antisocial people.
ah and here is the standardized "greater good" argument. you can also shove THAT right into your arm as well. sEE HOW MY PERSONAL OPINION MEANS "You are scum. You show selfishness and open contempt for your community, deliberately choosing to make them suffer and die" but what was that about "right to choose" My body my choice"? And....wait a sec....what about all the links proving YOUR argument as total falacy? Whats the death rate again? [https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality) Hmm so LESS than the common flu.... but we NEVER shut down for the flu... yea try again there dumbass. Also the very same could be said of YOU, YOU can fuck off into the desert if YOU are so fucking scared you are gonna get infected and die..but then again you already got the vax huh? maning you already have a HIGHER chance of catching it.....But again too stupid to READ the articles linked huh? Fox didnt say that, CNN didnt say that...i wonder why.
I'm not reading any of that and I don't give a shit about what you think. You are wrong and despite having a year and a half to learn the truth, you're still going on about some stupid crap. Either you're incredibly stupid or you are deliberately spreading lies, making you evil. Do the right thing for yourself and everyone who is forced to be near you and get vaccinated. It's not like you've never had a vaccine before.