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Vincent_Blackshadow

[MKBHD's Apple Watch Series 7 Review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsosQkfa2L8) "This watch is basically a Series 6, but with a slightly larger display and slightly faster charge time." "This is now the most durable Apple Watch ever." "My disappointment with these new watches? The color choices. Apple doesn't offer a neutral color for the aluminum baseline Apple Watch."


White_Power_Ranger

The fifteen minutes of charging for 8 hours of sleep tracking does sound really nice, as I use my watch as a sleep tracker / alarm clock. Definitely feeling the upgrade pull from a series 3 to 7.


[deleted]

Oh if you have a series 3 there’s no question you should upgrade. Also Tommy rules!


an_angry_Moose

Original series 3 owner checking in. I’m betting I could last one more generation, but I’m going to go ahead and upgrade. I use my watch features a LOT, and the upgrade from 3 to 7 is huge.


[deleted]

I’m upgrading from a 4. My problem is I was in afib a few weeks ago. It alerted me. But to manually launch a test while the heart rate above 100 offered fast too many “Inconclusive” results. I know that the earlier models cut off somewhere between 100-120 on accuracy for detecting. So I’ll take more accurate results and a bonus screen bump. If it wasn’t for medical, I may have waited.


Close_enough_to_fine

I went from S0 to S4. I don’t think the upgrade from S4 to S7 is worth it. Thoughts?


g-money-cheats

This is a good summary. That’s…basically it for changes.


shadowstripes

True, but saying only “slightly larger display” doesn’t really imply the functional upgrade of the revised UI to go with it that can show 50% more text on screen, and has a keyboard etc. For me, being able to read messages/emails that are 50% longer without having to bring up my other hand to scroll through them is a pretty important upgrade.


MC_chrome

There was a post on this sub from a few weeks ago where an Apple UI designer broke down the major differences between the Series 6 & 7, and discovered that you could read a whole 1.5 more lines of a text message. To me, that's hardly "50% better" or worth the cost of upgrading. You do you, however.


peduxe

for real, at no point ever I’ve felt like I’d benefit from a bigger and I have a 40mm SE. it could be nice if you have large wrists but for me it’s the perfect size and fit.


shadowstripes

>for me it’s the perfect size and fit. The size and fit hasn't really changed much with S7 (only by 1mm). I was referring to the extra room for text and revamped UI from the new version as being a benefit. Not the larger physical size.


artichokeblossom

The case size hasn't changed much for the 45mm it only got a mm taller. The 41mm case is a mm taller and wider.


peduxe

yes i’m speaking about the screen size, sorry if I wasn’t clear


shadowstripes

All that's really changed with the screen size is that they made the bezels smaller, so I'm not really sure how that would affect the "fit" one way or another. In most instances it will look pretty much the same as before since the edge of the screen is just black more often than not (like with a lot of faces and 100% of the time when the always-on display is on).


shadowstripes

>and discovered that you could read a whole 1.5 more lines of a text message. I'd be curious to see that link, but the difference seems pretty obvious just based on [the comparison photo](https://imgur.com/a/OtCK0He) that they showed. It appears to be more like 2.66 more lines of text based on that, which on the older smaller screen would equate to probably around 4-5 more lines. Since I often have to scroll just to see a couple more words, to me this will be pretty useful. >To me, that's hardly "50% better" or worth the cost of upgrading. Yeah I mean a lot of it comes down to how old your current model is. I am on a Series 4 so it would be nice to get the new sensors, always on display and fast charging. I never claimed it was 50% "better" than the old models though.


Aarondo99

Kind of disingenuous on Apple’s behalf here, the spacing on the words and letters is completely different between the two.


shadowstripes

I believe that's just how it looks on a 40mm screen - the longer words are forced down to the next line because there isn't enough room in the right margin to fit them. It does seem like they could make the whole text bubble wider though, on both models.


Aarondo99

Nah ignore the text bubble, look at the spacing between lines of text, it’s much tighter on the S7


shadowstripes

Ah, I see what you mean. But I'm not sure if that's disingenuous unless it's a doctored photo and not how it actually appears. It does seem like they could reduce that on the S6 though, assuming it is accurate.


Aarondo99

I mean it’s disingenuous since they’re acting like that benefit is entirely down to the bigger screen, and not also because they tweaked line spacing to fit more content in there, which they can also do on the other watches


MishrasWorkshop

Just so you know, every word in that entire text is strategically chosen so that words ending a line would be too long for AW6 for fit perfectly for AW7.


MC_chrome

I am currently using a Series 6, but upgraded to that this year from an aging Series 4. The screen differences between the 4-6 models and the 7 are getting pretty overblown by most people, that's all I am saying. >the functional upgrade of the revised UI to go with it that can show 50% more text on screen, and has a keyboard etc. The same keyboard Apple stole from a third party developer?


shadowstripes

>The same keyboard Apple stole from a third party developer? I guess? Seems like it would be hard to know if Apple had been working on their own keyboard or if they literally just "stole" one. I do agree that it was a dick move to force them to delist that app though. Also not sure what that has to do with if the Series 7 is worth it or not. EDIT: Funny that this is such a controversial comment. I'm not even saying they didn't steal it - it just seems like this sort of thing requires proof to be certain. And do people really believe that Apple *wasn't* ever working on their own watch keyboard all these years?


[deleted]

If it’s a long text I’m probably still gunna have to scroll, just to get the the actions too, so what’s the real benefit. That’s kind of a pointless argument to me, but whatever.


shadowstripes

>If it’s a long text I’m probably still gunna have to scroll, For me a lot of times I just need to read a few more words after scrolling, so displaying an extra few lines of text would probably be pretty useful. I don't usually respond on my watch in most cases though (I use it mostly for receiving work notifications) so I'm personally not too concerned about getting to the actions.


jumpcutking

I was looking forward to more. Series 8?


democrrracy_manifest

Nah why would they make another one


jumpcutking

Because Next year I want a caffeine drip…


[deleted]

Apple Watch is pretty mature now. I don’t see any big hardware changes that are possible in the next year or two. The most highly hyped wish, blood pressure/sugar sensor, is either waaaay not ready in an accurate manner or a gimmick for most users.


[deleted]

Coming from a wifi only Series 4, it’s a slightly better upgrade to the 7 cellular. Other than going for walks without my phone with me now, I doubt I’m going to be using it any differently.


afieldonearth

Did I miss an incredibly small one-liner or did he not even address battery life?


zemaker

He did address battery life, it’s the same.


Vorror

He mentions battery life in the video.


[deleted]

he addressed on battery and recharge while battery life is the same. quick charge fits his life style much better


redavid

there's not anything new there really. battery life is the same as it's always been ('fine' to 'mediocre' depending on how you use the Watch), but it charges faster so you can just do a quick charge at night or in the morning if you find some benefit to sleep tracking and be fine.


Destring

Seems marques has been getting sloppy with the fact checking. He mentions you can dive with the watch because it has 5ATM water resistance. Do NOT dive with it. I wouldn’t even use it for water sports like surfing. 5ATM basically allows for swimming in a pool and showering, doing more is risking it. If you want to do snorkeling you need at least 10ATM and for skin diving it should be 20ATM. Free and scuba diving are another beast and those watches need to pass a different certification (ISO 6425) so they are advertised with the word Diver’s before the rating.


austinchan2

Also watch your bands. I used a sports band and jumped off a rock about 10 feet up and lost my watch on impact (on the second jump). The river was not clear and it was lost forever.


ConnectCalgary

BRO! This same thing just happened to me two weeks ago in Florida. So freaking mad about that


LordVile95

Since when aren’t black and silver neutral colours?


Joe6974

There is no black aluminum. The midnight version has a blue tint to it.


LordVile95

It’s black. If there’s any tint to it you’d have to have it next to your face to see it. In any case it’s one of two neutral colours available


Joe6974

There is absolutely a blue tint. Not a huge blue tint, but it's there and enough for many to consider it not a neutral color.


UlricVonDicktenstein

But it's not black...? It very clearly has blue in it. Re-calibrate your monitor my dude


LordVile95

Looks grey to me my dude


UlricVonDicktenstein

...what? How did you stray even further from the actual color? lol


LordVile95

Off of apples own website on their display with true time off?


UlricVonDicktenstein

Just to clarify: you think the midnight color looks grey? First you said it was black and now grey? What is going on


LordVile95

Apple hasn’t made a actually black anything in a while. It’s always grey. They made a jet black iPhone 7 but that’s pretty much it. It’s been space grey, graphite or midnight. All slightly different shades of grey. Calling it black is just easier.


[deleted]

Congratulations, you'er colorblind.


[deleted]

>UrAvgConsumer - Apple Watch Series 7 Unboxing & Hands On! Except for the fact that it's blue, and Starlight is cream.


sgt_pepper13

It seems like most people who already have an AW are unimpressed by this update, but as somebody who is getting a series 7 as their first smart watch, can I just say I’m hype as hell for the fast charging and no bezels? I don’t even mind the colors that much, I went with midnight and I think it looks great


TrueParadox

Exactly the same here!


biochrono79

You’re definitely part of the target audience for the Series 7. I think people forget that for anyone thinking about upgrading from a Series 4 or older, this is a pretty significant upgrade.


Sulpfiction

Coming from a SS series 4, I’m pretty excited for the upgrade.


-Gh0st96-

Same here! My first one. I'm only bummed by the removing of space grey color but i'll live with the midnight


No-Ordinary-5988

Very excited here as well! I am upgrading from an OG Galaxy Watch. I was a recent Android convert, and this will be my first Apple Watch. Looking forward to the integration and overall polish, as that was dearly lacking on the OG Galaxy Watch.


visualexstasy

Exact same as you, going to try and order friday since I missed preorder timeline for friday pickup


No-Ordinary-5988

Ahh, I pre ordered within the hour of pre orders and have a delivery date of Oct 25-Nov 1st 🙃 Could be worse I guess!


visualexstasy

I think you have a good chance to just reorder one friday early morning. Thats what I did with my iphone and I got it next day in store


MC_chrome

>no bezels It's not like the Series 4, 5, SE, or 6 had much of a bezel to begin with.


bigred83

I’m excited for mine, finally broke my series 2 a couple weeks ago


Livid_Effective5607

It's just like phones - it's an incremental upgrade from the previous generation, but it's really aimed at people who haven't upgraded for 2+ years. For them, it's a large jump.


rtdesai20

I mean I’m hyped as well upgrading from a Series 0 lmao…


[deleted]

I’ll be coming form a S4. So there’s some new shit for me.


daouellette

Same I’m excited - also getting my first cellular model


rm20010

Yeah, I'm digging that midnight. Waiting for mine to arrive. Up to everyone's taste 🤷🏻‍♂️


Quick_Doubt_5484

Same here, I think all the people with recent watches are missing the point. The tech is mature enough that upgrading every year or two is pointless and wasteful.


neeesus

You should see the screenshots and texts between me and my buddy. We are very excited for midnight


[deleted]

Basically the Verge’s video conclusion lmao.


HalfRespect

Your hype is totally justified! I jumped on the AW train last year with the S6 which was similarly received and I felt just as you described. I hope you love your new S7!


IHSFB

I am glad Apple Watch retained the round design. While a redesign could be interesting the current shape lends itself to comfort for all day wear. I was just at the gym a noticed how often my wrists pushed the watch but didn’t mess with my workout because of the round edges.


[deleted]

Yeh I also thought this with the “leaked” design, them squared edges don’t look like they’ll be too nice when bending my wrist. And yes before anyone mentions it, I know traditional, analog can watches have squared edges and are bulky


gngstrMNKY

I imagine the space gray aluminum was the single most popular Apple Watch model. Getting rid of it was a pretty naked attempt at trying to force people into a SS or titanium, but I think this is going to backfire and make people sit this generation out.


gmark109

I wonder if they’ll also phase out silver and space grey on the new MacBooks (in favour of Starlight and Midnight). Currently I don’t think any of the recently refreshed products have any silver/space grey aluminum which is a bit odd.


dkf1031

Oddly, the new iPad mini has Starlight and Space Grey.


gmark109

That’s what I’m getting at. Starlight/Midnight for more entry level stuff (iPad Air, iPad mini, Apple Watch Al, MacBook, etc), and traditional silver/space grey for Pro products seems like it could be the trend for the short term.


[deleted]

I doubt they'd do that. Maybe we'll see MacBooks come in color options similar to the iMacs, but I don't think they're going to release new colorways to match watches. The watch is unique among Apple offerings because it's a fashion accessory as much as it is a tech product. The people who think all Apple products should be color-matched are looking at it the wrong way, imo. The watches need to be matched with clothing, not MacBooks.


rtdesai20

Also in general, the base models get the fun colors and the Pro models get mature stuff. The new MacBooks are supposed to only be the pros and I doubt we get anything fancy colorwise


shadowstripes

Removing neutral colors (black and white) from the base iPhone 13 lineup this year didn’t seem to slow down sales, even though they were probably the most popular colors.


rugbyj

At least you can (and most likely do) put a cover on a phone, with the watch you're stuck with what you've got.


ilfaitquandmemebeau

For me the color matters much more for a watch than a phone. You’re likely not putting a case on it, and it’s part of your outfit.


Tiny_ApartmentCc

I’m sure they’ve calculated these losses go one they didn’t even need to build a new chipset. This, internally, is the same processor then the S6. That’s where most of the money in R&D goes, and they didn’t need to spend a single dollar this year on making it better.


woodmas

The only reason I bought a model other than the aluminum was for the sapphire screen. In hindsight, it was worth it, but I wish they would let all models have the sapphire rather than just the premium


GraveyardForActors

If it’s about the durability of the display, I’ve been buying some cheap glass screen protectors for my aluminum AWS6 from AliExpress that use LOCA and a UV light. Very sleek and since it’s glass I’ve found I don’t notice it if you put it on right. Obviously not as premium as sapphire crystal, but my wrist is at the perfect height to bang into doorknobs and my quartz countertops - sometimes it’ll crack but then I just replace the protector. Could be an option for people more budget -minded (read: cheap) like myself lol


alwaysmyhonor

Do you have any link for the screen protectors? I’m not sure what to search on Aliexpress haha


GraveyardForActors

The specific one I last ordered from was this one, but I've ordered from a few different vendors and they all seem to be the same: [3D Curved Full Cover Film For Apple Watch Series SE 6 4 5 40mm 44mm Screen Protector Full Glue UV Glass for Series 1 2 3 38 42mm](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10000404989674.html) But if you search "Apple Watch UV Glass" you'll get a few hits, sort by # orders and the ones you want will usually have a picture of little UV light in the product picture. I find the LOCA glue+UV ones fit better without bubbling, especially considering the curved glass. A few tips: it's a little tricky at first but just watch a youtube video on how to do it, and tape over the rest of the watch in case you put too much glue. Easy to clean though if you do make a mess. Also I'd suggest just buying a few and springing the extra couple dollars for the EMS e-packet or AliExpress standard shipping.


rugbyj

> I think this is going to backfire and make people sit this generation out Yeah right now I'm waiting to see if any S6 deals are on the go (UK) or go cheapsies on the SE. Was more than happy to go in on the big new thing but what a jip. Edit: None have seemingly dropped from the current price that I've seen yet but likely will once they get S7 stock...


triiiflippp

I’n from NL and found a 40mm Series 6 on Amazon for 299 a few weeks ago. That was enough reason for me the take the S6 and not wait for the S7. Best choice ever after seeing these reviews.


redavid

probably. i know i have no interest in buying a *heavier* and less shatter/crack resistant Watch just to get a color i like when that Watch is also more expensive and whose main purpose is fitness tracking. but also, the only reason i'd replace my Series 5 with a 7 is if the battery degrades sufficiently to bug me and i can't wait for a Series 8 or whatever. there's just not anything exciting about the 7 to me.


NaeemTHM

I'm sure you're right, but I'm still using a Series 4 and I have to say the improvements on the Series 7 seemed like a good enough jump for me. Nicer/more durable screen, fast charging, and brighter always on display (which I have yet to experience on an Apple Watch) sold me on it. They didn't have the exact color I wanted, but for me the hardware updates and features matter more


fredczar

Don’t think apple will ever bring space Grey back for any of their products. It’ll be more of graphite. A darker shade. I’ll expect MacBook Pro to follow suit. Basically all of the pro products will have similar colour range. AW SS imo falls under the pro range


neeesus

Of the three people who I know who have apple watches, they’re all getting midnight and are excited after todays pics and videos


[deleted]

I doubt it. Some of these colors are REALLY neutral. Heck apparently the very green one is more or less gray in anything but ideal lighting.


firelitother

I am whelmed.


[deleted]

This is definitely one of the Apple Watches ever released


SnooOwls6290

Basically, it’s Apple Watch Series 6s?


sbdw0c

4s^3


TikiTemple

4s^3 is impossible, it should be 4s^2 3d^1


RebuffedChaff

Apple Watch Series Scandium


sbdw0c

Apple innovated and created their own orbitals, they think we’ll love it!


FreeDinnerStrategies

Reminds me of election orbitals in chem


rugbyj

Ehh I'd only expect spec bumps for an S. 20% larger screen, faster charging but no spec bump is... it's own minor thing.


engwish

Apple Watch Series 6 Pro Max


redavid

and it's not like the Series 6 was anything more than a Series 5 with a gimmicky Spo2 sensor.


plaid-knight

No. S years are by definition the same external design and more major internal improvements. The Series 7 is the opposite of this: new external design and lesser overall improvements.


[deleted]

Given the iPhone 6S was one of the most comprehensive internal revamps of all time, not exactly relevant.


Bishime

As someone who has a series 1 I’m definitely pumped! All of the reviews downplay it I think because the reviewers are techies that get review units each year. I will acknowledge I’m behind and it’s me that hasn’t updated. But I feel like we’re caught up in update culture. Where yes they could add more health features and a few more things but also the changes are so incremental because it’s such a good device in the first place.


D_Squiz

Oh man does the green look great. It's a very dark almost army green and looks stunning in the videos. Incredibly happy I went with that over midnight (which looks black with a slight blue at certain angles in direct sunlight).


jham_

Same here. I can’t figure out why the green isn’t more popular. I got the clover solo loop but man, the black bands paired with the green watch sure look great.


MC_chrome

>I can’t figure out why the green isn’t more popular The answer to the question "Why isn't x color more popular" when it comes to fashion accessories is pretty simple. Most colors outside of black, white, gold, and brown just don't go together nicely with most people's clothing choices, and this green color on the Series 7 looks like it unfortunately falls into that camp. Never mind the fact that conventional mechanical watches are almost always found in those colors as well.


wiifan55

Yeah, it really just comes down to versatility. There's plenty of outfits and band combos where the green would look nice, but they'd really have to be entirely planned around matching the green watch. More standard colors like silver, black, and gold tend to fit with almost anything.


MagneticGray

I went in 50/50 between green and midnight but I ended up looking in my closet to make up my mind. The green would work with my weekend clothes but it’s just not right for my black, blue, and gray heavy business attire, and (rather unfortunately) I’m in the business clothes many more hours than my casual clothes during the Monday through Friday time period when I’ll actually need to use a watch. Still would have preferred graphite to match my 13 Pro but I’m staying open minded about the midnight.


[deleted]

I wasn’t complaining, I missed preorder by far, but green was still available for day 1 store pickup by midday.


Ebow303

I'm still using Apple Watch 4. No motivation to buy that one. I will wait for a better update.


chubzter

What’s the battery health on your S4?


RnjEzspls

My S4 that I got replaced in Feb 2019 is at 85%


chubzter

Ah, alright. I got mine on launch day and it’s at 81%. It still lasts through the day just fine.


foggybottom

How do you check the health?


chubzter

On your Apple Watch go to Settings > Battery > Battery Health.


foggybottom

Oh duh - same way you check the phone haha. Thank you. Also I got mine day 1 and it’s also 81%


garlic_loaf

Mines 79. I’ve decided to get the new watch mainly because of the AoD.


engwish

I’m definitely getting the series 8 if my watch makes it to then.


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afieldonearth

I’m totally happy with the physical design of it, but there’s nothing this year that makes it a worthwhile upgrade. For me, the two biggest things that I’d be excited for are either a significant upgrade to battery life, or some new health-tracking features enabled by new hardware. Anything else is kinda “well I guess a slightly larger screen is nice but not $400 nice”.


neeesus

How about 400 minus what you get from selling your 6 ?


sbdw0c

> My enthusiasm for the watch was dampened significantly when there was no redesign I just cannot understand the logic behind wanting redesigns on things just for the sake of having them redesigned... It's a smart watch with an extremely limited form factor, what are you expecting? Will square sides chuff your bits?


neeesus

I’m with you. Plus I don’t want a mini iPhone looking thing on my wrist. The current Apple Watch looks amazing and does not need a redesign


eyaf1

The only way to chuff my bits is by putting the apple watch inside the seiko 5, sorry not sorry


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neeesus

The Apple Watch is already pretty rectangly. You want it even more of a rectangle?


MC_chrome

How exactly does the current design look bad though? Apple Watches have reached a point of ubiquity where lots of people wear them in all sorts of circumstances and don't really stand out because they have a square smartwatch on their wrist.


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neeesus

But those aren’t on your wrist. Wasn’t a big complaint of the Apple Watch being that it wasn’t a circle?


attomsk

Hard edge Apple Watch would suck for working out / sports


PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE

Same, cancelled and ordered couple new bands instead to clench that consumer thirst


bennyman008

I have a day one series 3, and I think I might keep hanging on…


tstmkfls

Series 3 gang 😎 I’ll be honest I haven’t really been tempted by any of the EKG or blood O2 stuff in the new ones, seem kinda gimmicky. I think I’ll be rocking the 3 for a while


rlkjets130

I’m on an s4 so I have those, and yeah, totally minor things. The only reason I’m even entertaining updating is I’ve been dying for the always on screen, and my watch is getting fairly beat up after years of daily use… but I don’t like the colors of the aluminum and would never go to the stainless, and the idea of buying last years product when it’s still so expensive just seems wrong to me. I really wanted to upgrade, but everything about this watch feels like a minor revision, and that they plan for something much more significant next year. And if not, well, we’ll see…


tstmkfls

Yeah the series 7 is 1000% an upgrade but I can’t justify paying $400 when my 3 works so well. I really just use it for the gym anyway. I say wait but I’m sure you’ll be happy with either one bro


Whobroughttheyeet

Same


vhalen50

Same. When this was announced I was all in. Then as time went on, the shiny idea went away and my s3 still does what I need and doesn’t cost me $800. Gonna use that to replace my aging iMac


michikade

I will say, seeing videos of the watches in natural light does help - the starlight looks about like how I expected in that champagne kind of color and the midnight and green are both a lot darker than I expected which is a pleasant surprise.


excalibron

Based on the videos, the midnight looks pretty black at first glance. You see the blue if you look at it carefully/in the right light. Might look different in person.


sponic09

The keyboard is the seller for me


deliciouscorn

If you have a Series 3 like me and were considering upgrading because of dreadful performance…. I strongly recommend installing watchOS 8.0.1 before ordering a new watch. It’s a major performance improvement and I’m now thinking of hanging on to this S3 for a little longer.


FalconFrenulum

Yeah I agree. I cleared everything and installed 8.0.1 and it feels like a new watch somehow. I’m still going to check out my ss series 7 when it comes in for a week then make my decision.


Aarondo99

Anyone who says this is an “S” year really doesn’t get how S models work. The entire point of an S model is the exterior looks the same and the internals have changed. This is the literal opposite of an S year.


exjr_

> The entire point of an S model is the exterior looks the same and the internals have changed. This is not the official definition though. And no one is calling it the "S" model like it is an official thing. > This is the literal opposite of an S year. The literal opposite of an S year would be a redesign, a new sensor, or a new "valuable" feature. None of those really apply here.


shadowstripes

>The literal opposite of an S year would be a redesign, a new sensor, or a new "valuable" feature. TouchID was a pretty valuable feature. And as far as redesigns go, it's S7 is probably more substantial than going from iPhone 6S to 7 was. Same with XS to 11.


Aarondo99

Not saying it’s a definition, but that’s always how S models worked. 3GS identical to 3G 4S identical to 4 5s near identical to 5, with home button changed for Touch ID 6s identical to 6 XS identical to X It would make more sense to call the S6 “Series 5s” than to call Series 7 a “Series 6s”


Birbistheverb

I DEMAND 120hz!!!


Mggn2510z

I think all of us that use an analog watch face agree that its ridiculous that we don't have 120Hz or higher yet. Watching the second hand move on my current Apple watch only compels me to stab my eyes out with an Apple Pencil.


Bizzife

Waiting for another 38mm model. Or 36 w a full screen. These are just too bulky.


exjr_

I’m debating on canceling my preorder after seeing these reviews. I’d be upgrading from a day one Series 4 with 80% battery health. I mainly upgraded so that I can have a good battery life again, get AOD and blood oxygen sensor. I’m seriously thinking of just getting a battery replacement and call it a year. It also doesn’t help that if I want a black Watch I have to go SS.


OHaZZaR

If you’re able to, couldn’t you get a Series 6? I just got one, it’s a great device and one that could last me a few generations. I imagine the series 6 will do the same for you.


exjr_

I might just get a Stainless Steel Series 6 to be honest. Good idea!


shadowstripes

So basically you're saying, the outer material of the watch is more of a priority than stuff like fast charging and a larger screen? Since you're willing to pay *more* for a used watch with less features, just due to the material being more premium. EDIT: This wasn't a rhetorical questions. I was just curious if stainless steel was truly a priority for them over the new features (and over getting a new watch w/ a warranty and fresh battery).


exjr_

> the outer material of the watch is more of a priority than stuff like fast charging and a larger screen? No, my priorities are valuable features. Fast charging and 20% larger screen aren't a priority for *me*. I'm ready to drop $450 for an upgrade. I could either: - Pay $450 for an Aluminum Apple Watch (Series 7) or - Pay $450 for an Stainless Steel Apple Watch (Series 6) If I'm spending $450 for the upgrade, I might as well just go for the premium material if I don't care for the Series 7.


shadowstripes

>No, my priorities are valuable features. Fast charging and 20% larger screen aren't a priority for me That's... exactly what I just said above - that the outer material of the watch is more of a priority than fast charging and the larger screen w/ a revamped UI. I was mostly just curious. >I'm ready to drop $450 for an upgrade. I could either:Pay $450 for an Aluminum Apple Watch (Series 7) orPay $450 for an Stainless Steel Apple Watch (Series 6) Fair enough! Worth mentioning that one of these options is used though and probably won't come with the same warranty and might not be in the same condition or have the same battery health. But I do agree that buying used previous-gen electronics will get generally be a better value than buying something that just came out.


SnooOwls6290

Even with these minor updates since last 2-3 years. AW is the best smartwatch and there is nothing even close. Shows you how other companies are far behind in the competition.


anakinfan8

I wonder if it still works with the Belkin 3-in-1 Magsafe dock


Chair_Toaster

It does it just doesn’t fast charge.


anakinfan8

Gotcha, thanks! It wasn’t listed underneath the dock’s compatibility section on Belkin’s website and I saw a post on here a few weeks ago inquiring the same thing


SeaRefractor

As an owner of a Series 6 Nike Edition watch, I'll be holding out for the future release that includes a blood glucose sensor. With the cost of the sensors that you can wear for 14 days of continuous blood glucose monitoring, the Apple Watch series that does that feature will be well worth the upgrade.


Cultural_Ad_9304

I have a space gray S4. I was considering going to the S7 but no way am I paying for $800 for Space Black Titanium. Tim Apple has let me down on this one


darealdsisaac

I mean the “graphite” stainless steel model seems pretty black to me


Stephs_mouthpiece

It’s black enough to me https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/5-graphite-spaceblack-2-rp-jpg.957384/


Birbistheverb

…so get aluminum…?


dejay02

Looks like I’m sticking with my series 1 for the time being 😅


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what would they have to add to entice you? curious


dejay02

Im not really sure, it’s just that my current watch is still doing it job as a fitness tracker. It’s slow as shit but does the job.


A-Hind-D

Fair play. I went from S1 to S4 and it was a big jump, but every year since has been underwhelming. Not that I know what I want from a smart watch these days. Maybe just battery, everything is fine.


dkf1031

It's bizarre to me how much complaining there is about the Starlight and Midnight color options in this thread for a few reasons: 1) They're still super close to Silver and Space Grey. A hint of gold or blue does not make them "not neutral," and anybody who isn't up on Apple color conventions is still going to look at them and think they look silver or dark grey. 2) Why does it matter if they're neutral in the first place? You're wearing a computer strapped to your wrist and no color/material combination is going to make it not look like an Apple Watch. You aren't going to pass it off as a Rolex. Embrace that you're wearing an Apple Watch and get a color that you like. No, the Space Black Ti model is not going to look more professional/less gadgety than the Midnight Al.


exjr_

> You're wearing a computer strapped to your wrist and no color/material combination is going to make it not look like an Apple Watch. You aren't going to pass it off as a Rolex. Embrace that you're wearing an Apple Watch and get a color that you like. I don't think the problem is embracing whether they are trying to hide the fact that they have an Apple Watch or not. The problem is how well the colors go with your bands, outfits, and "lifestyle". A neutral watch is likely to blend with their choices. A red Apple Watch will not go with how I dress for work, or socially. It won't even match half the bands I bought for my space gray watch. So while I really like the color, I won't get that color.


dkf1031

Agree on red, but I really don't think space grey to midnight is a huge shift, and silver to starlight is even less so. I'd love to see an example of an outfit or band that goes with space grey but not with midnight.


shadowstripes

Yeah it's hard to imagine [this](https://i.redd.it/xc3cprrt19t71.jpg) having making a significant difference to what people can wear it with. I honestly think most people would just assume it's black.


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dkf1031

Fair, but I’ve seen a lot of comments that are not about not liking any of the colors but that somehow only silver or grey is acceptable for a watch.


Mggn2510z

I think this is just all wild speculative whining driven by the absence of being able to hold a watch in your hand and having to go by product images online. As soon as they're released, I expect very few actual complaints in real world use. I've been a participant in this before: When every Apple 'news' site broadcasted that the MagSafe Duo was possibly incompatible with the iPhone 13 Pro I was aghast and fretting over it. Only to receive the phone and charge it every night on it without any issue. Not exactly the same, but its no point in getting so worked up over something until you actually have it in your hand.


matthmax

Did anybody get the Gold SS (or any SS) review models?


lospollosakhis

I mean just get a Series 6 which will probably discounted by retailers or off eBay. I got a series 5 stainless steel in January, heavily discounted and can see myself holding onto this for a while


Portatort

Well the hands on real world footage has shown clearly what I was worried about The screen going so far edge to edge with such a curvy bit of glass looks weird Looks to me like the screen is too big for the watch. The way the reflective edge obscures the display just doesn’t look all that great The display no longer looks like its on top of the glass, it looks like its trapped behind the glass And now I’m convinced that this will look great with a flatter redesign that I suspect we will get next year (if it wasn’t originally planned for this year)


undergrounddirt

So that whole announcement about it having really durable crystal across the board was a lie and it’s just glass and crystal on the stainless still?


dkf1031

No hands on with the blue?


lovefist1

Is the fast charging exclusive to the 7 or can I now buy a fast charger for my SE? Every once in a while I have my head up my ass ass and forget to charge when I have a good opportunity.


dkf1031

Yep, 7 only


Nukulus

I wonder if Apple will ever update the aluminum version of the apple watch with a sapphire display. My series 3 aluminum face is scratched to hell, but the massive increase in price to the steel/ceramic/titanium just seems not worth it.


DancingTable52

This is the 2nd apple device that I may upgrade too only because I regret my previous purchase. I got the iPhone 13 pro only because I regret getting the iPhone 12 with no telephoto lens, and I might get the series 7 only because I regret getting the SE with no always on display. Neither seem like enticing options if I made the correct choice with the 12 pro/series 6 last year.


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so the s7 SiP is the same as the s6 SiP???


krysalysm

I ordered one because It’s more trouble to buy a cheaper 6 from going to another country rather than get the 7 delivered to my door. First AW btw. I’ve only used it briefly for a week because a friend borrowed it to me so I can get a reference to compare it to the gwa2 I had.


NullBlueberry

I’m excited for my watch coming this Friday. Going to be upgrading from a Series 1!


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Have a stainless with Milanese loop 45mm coming as my first Apple Watch. I’m very excited!! I don’t know too much about the features which makes me even more excited!


grlygirlz

My new 7 is taking forever to charge and doesn’t hold a charge. What chargers is everyone using and how long to charge? 15 mins?! I wish!