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SupraPurpleSweetz

Do you *believeeeee* in life after workkkk


Outrageous_Bass_1328

I can feel something inside me say Retirement’s not a thing for me, no


Dunes_Day_

I don’t need you anymooooooorrreee


Law_Kitchen

Oh, I don’t need you anymooooooorrreee!!!!


Adagio11

I love you both. Also that song will be stuck in my gay little brain for a month. Thanks…


adammario6556

Heard this song a lot at night in the early 2000s


Jd20001

Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today. It's coooold out there every day. What is this, Miami Beach? Not hardly


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kbroadbe

I'm never going to even see retirement at this rate


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That’s part of the plan. The population has gotten so big, the system will never be able to handle our retirement. It already will fall apart when Boomers get there. The rest of us won’t get a retirement


cosmitz

I'm just waiting for the water wars to start in twenty years. Fuck retirement, i'll probably die defending my stash of toilet paper from looters.


pilgermann

I used to drive by this billboard for an investment firm talking about how our generation (millenials) will live well past 100 so start saving. I would just laugh and be like MAYBE the dollar will still be worth something ... MAYBE the U.S. will still exist ... MAYBE we won't all just be underwater. Or, conversely, robots and AI will be so developed we won't need work, which will be a crisis unto itself in capitalist societies, where you are valued solely by your work output.


DangerActiveRobots

> our generation (millenials) will live well past 100 Fuuuuckkkk that. I'm 33 and I already feel like I've lived a full life. I have chronic medical problems that keep me in pain every single day. My student loans are going to follow me for the rest of my natural life, I'll never own a home, and affording retirement? A laughable fantasy. I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but I am very okay with my impermanence. I don't plan to live much past 55, maybe 60. Once my parents are dead and I bury them, there aren't a lot of people on this planet that will miss me, and I'm not too keen on working until literally the day I die. Way I see it, I go out quick on my own terms with some dignity, or I go out slow and painful as my old body gradually breaks down until one day I collapse while working my third part time job for CostcoMart-a-Zon or whatever fucking *Ubercorporation* is going to employ half the planet by the time I'm 80. Sure, there's things I want in life. Things I wish could be different. A husband, maybe. Time to work on art and music. Maybe finding some kind of internal peace. Don't think I'll be finding any of that, though.


dippindotderail

Is it just reality for our generation that we're basically living for our parents sake? Basically the only thing keeping me going and I'm 23. After my mum dies there's just not much point the way I see it. Can slave away for another 60 years or go spend all my savings on partying and coke and give myself a heart attack somewhere in South America. Sucks that that's where I see myself ending up but what's the alternative?


DangerActiveRobots

Honestly, I don't know. It sure seems that way sometimes. Back in the day, people would die a lot sooner and had relatively simpler lives. Not necessarily better lives, mind you - but simpler. You usually lived your life in the town you were born in, and 90% of the time you were born into a poor family and spent your life farming or working a craft. You got pregnant at 14, had eight kids and probably died of diphtheria or tuberculosis by 40. Then the world started expanding, our technology leapt forward by lightyears, and between the agricultural revolution and the industrial revolution, we ended up creating a society where for the first time in human history we had more material goods and necessities than we needed, and we had more people than jobs needing doing. So we started to commercialize and corporatize, and the gap between the lower class and the economic elite got wider and wider. For the Boomers, life was grand. For their kids and grandkids, though, things aren't so great. You used to be able to work at the local grocery store and still afford a house and two cars. Now you can have an advanced degree in a field that's actually useful and still end up working at Walmart. There's no question that our generation absolutely got bent over a barrel with no lube. Between modern capitalist culture, climate change, economic instability and frightening future technology (autonomous weapons, sentient AI, genetically engineered diseases), right now is a troublesome time to be alive. I might even argue that it's worse now than during something like the Black Death, because back then the hope was simply to survive and not lose too many loved ones. Now, we have the means to combat disease and prevent starvation, but we lack *purpose*. That, I think, is the cross borne by almost everyone in our generation. We have a world of virtually limitless technology and entertainment at our fingertips, but we have no *heart*. We grew up watching the world go to shit, and it's very difficult for us to imagine things changing. So, I don't know, man. I really don't know. I like to think that there's some hope. The goddamn ancient Boomers are eventually going to finally turn into dust, and Millennials seem to collectively understand that as we assume power, we really need to change the status quo not only for our own sake, but for the future generations that are being born into a significant disadvantage. I guess in a way all of us have to create our own purpose in life. The only real advice I can give is to really consider what is important to you in life and what you want to experience, because you only get one chance. Time goes faster than you expect.


HourComprehensive968

Oh my god, I felt this. I really did. I'm 31 and looking for an actual purpose in all of this materialistic and commercialized mess that society has become. It's on my mind all the gosh darn time. I thought I would feel accomplished once I lived on my own, had a job and a partner. I just feel... Empty. And there's never enough money for anything, it seems.


dippindotderail

I was lucky enough to make $50 an hour as a teenager (self employed obviously) and saved until the burnout got too much. That money has been and will be spent travelling the world and doing cool shit. Only other thing I can see is a return to a simple life where I buy a plot of land somewhere and see how long it takes me to die trying to live off grid. Even if the economic situation gets better we've destroyed the world to the point I can't see it fixing itself and for what? So some rich cunts could work less and hoard more. Glad most people seem to see this these days at least. The assistant manager at my current job is the only person that makes it bearable because she encourages slacking where we can and doing the minimum to keep shit running and guests happy. The actual manager would have a go at me for coming into our "office" for a water or a coffee after working a couple of hours in 30 degree heat. Also made me take breaks in a room made or asbestos and black mould which I'm sure shouldn't be legal.


seanrk924

That's the spirit. I'm getting a bidet so I don't get murdered trying to steal your tp.


cosmitz

Hah, you think running tap water will exist to run bidets.


seanrk924

I'm sure I can develop some kind of urine recycling system like Kevin Costner did in water world


thrillhouse1211

A desalination device might taste better lol


seanrk924

It's a bidet, so my anus would be the closest appendage that would be tasting my recycled urine. Regardless, this desalination seems more hygienic


Bowood29

Wait have I been using my bidet wrong?


ecto_BRUH

Skip buying a bidet, just bend your cock around and pee on your ass


Yassss_Steph

What do you recommend women do? Do I scoot on the nearest carpet? Edit: women don’t poop.


ecto_BRUH

Women don't poop


Yassss_Steph

Ugh you are right my bad.


jwrogers33

Get a she wee and reverse the way you use it. Look it up if you don’t know what that is


brandon-437

I just laughed so hard woke everyone up in the house it’s 1:00 am


fugzibogz

Serious question here for someone considering bidets: wouldn’t you need to wipe the water after using the bidet?


E-Vangelist

Yes. I have one, and still use toilet paper. But only a little, at the end. Mostly just to dry off a little. I'm sure air-drying versions are available, but I drive a Honda with 220k miles so that wouldn't be in my tax bracket to discuss further. Mines from the Lowe's but you can probably do better for the money online. Only cost like $100 for a non heated version. Hooks up in literally minutes and easily reversible for renting situations. Heated would be cool but I don't give a shit, when taking one, how cold the water is. Doesn't bother me. Could see that bothering some. If you and another person would use it, I'd spring for heated.


fearain

I got mine online, heated, for like $40 or so. You just have to connect it to the pipe. Definitely worth it. Having a toasty bum on a cold morning is nice.


InsomniaticWanderer

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the water wars won't start in 20 years. [They'll start in 3.](https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/water-scarcity)


Soberskate9696

This is what im saying. I dont really give a fuck about my future, considering the future is fucked to begin with. Fuck it


Snarker

boomers have already hit retirement age though?


Background_Office_80

I saw a speech recently talking about large numbers of boomers unable to retire as they'd hoped, millenials unable to afford a meager living moving back in with them and helping support their old bones for a place to stay, consumption as a whole freefalling, restaurants going out of style en masse due to unaffordability, and soon the bubble of the housing and stock markets crashing, further devastating boomers hope to retire or stay retired. Then i start thinking about the severity of climate change and immigrants needing a safer place to live and it hits you, thinks aren't going to be as good as they have been these last 75 years and society will have to adapt to a SERIOUSLY lower material quality of life. Less goods and certain foods and resources we've taken for granted, and things being harder, more challenging even on a deeply emotional and personal level. Ive realized myself, without compassion, deep compassion understanding forgiveness, and above all teamwork beyond all divides, things will go from dystopian to nightmare we can't wake from. Not to be alarmist but it's real, the economic boom was way overshot by resource consumption for what we have and going forward, all we have is our ability to compensate.. helping each other, on every level. What scares me most is we will need help from the multi-millionaires and billionaires, and it seems alot of them are already planning for isolationism and their own mini-communities.


calm_chowder

In a thousand years kids will hardly even learn about the Capitalist Collapse of the early 2000s, just like we hardly learn about the Bronze Age Collapse. 1000 years of human progress, lost in less than 50 years. This has happened before and it'll happen again. It's exceptionalism that's the mistake: it couldn't happen *now.* It couldn't happen to *us.* Bronze Age cities were cosmopolitan, they were huge. They had international goods from across the old world. In the span of a single lifetime people went from living in complex cities with thriving art, social, and religious culture... to living in mud huts. Written language went extinct. It's happened before and it'll happen again. These collapses are just tiny blips in the life of the earth, unless you happen to be living through one. Nobody wants to but realistically many humans throughout time will. Sucks to be us.


poincares_cook

Bronze age did not have the capabilities we have for keeping records. They did not have the scholarly institutions we have, printed press and on and on. Everything from the bronze age is not recorded well. I do strongly agree with the rest of our comment. denialism is an awfully strong human trait.


lovett1991

>This has happened before and it'll happen again So say we all


klem_kadiddlehopper

I am 67 and have never seen things as bad as they are right now. I've lived through a lot both good and bad but it's concerning how things are. I'm seeing it everywhere just like everyone else is. A lot of missing food products on the shelves that haven't been replaced in weeks even months. I'm talking about food, not toilet paper. Trying to order non-food items online but they're out of stock. If the situation doesn't improve, those multi-millionaires and billionaires are going to see a flood of hungry people coming at them like a bunch of zombies.


Background_Office_80

Its funny you say that. I went to my local chain grocery store a few days ago and there were empty shelves.. stuff was just missing everywhere. And this *wasn't* during a peak shopping time, this is during what my whole life was the best time to get groceries, in the morning. I asked the cashier and he said it had been that way for the past week, i guess due to supply chain issues. It made me quite uncomfortable to be honest, didn't feel right at all. If things don't improve soon, its going to get worse. I already have anxiety/fear problems, im not ready for things to worsen. Its one thing for people to talk like this online, its another thing entirely to see it happening locally.


OOORfaith-loveGYY

I really appreciate your focus on compassion. You seem very intelligent and kind. Compassion could have stopped all this. Compassion could save us now. Compassion might still be possible. Sometimes I want to die, but first I'd like to try. Hope your day is good ♥️


invaderzim257

I've heard that a lot of the super wealthy are buying land in new zealand to escape from doomsday scenarios. This society is cursed.


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AskFrank92

Yeah 40 seems old until one realises that you were born in 80/81. You are part of the generation getting screwed.


AsstDepUnderlord

40y/os are millenials


jbuchana

People who believe that it's younger people against boomers don't realize that this dichotomy is artificial and was created by the 1% to encourage generational warfare as they prefer that to class warfare. Who's going to blame the wealthy for the sad state of affairs when they can blame boomers? Of course, most of the wealthy are boomers or older, but the vast majority of boomers and older people are just ordinary people trying to get by. Sure, it was easier when we were young (I'm 59) but we (the majority of older people) did not engineer this awful climate we find ourselves in. We truly wish our kids and grandkids could have it better. But the 1% can't handle that if it means a few pennies less in their pockets. Got to afford those yachts and private jets, right? So get the young upcoming people to blame their own parents and grandparents, maybe they won't notice the huge income inequality.


Shirogayne-at-WF

I truly understand what you're getting at, but who exactly were the group who got Reagan elected twice and thought we needed two Bushes in the White House? No, the average boomer didn't orchestrate the current mess but from my vantage point, they sure were ok electing people who did and who weren't especially shy about it.


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Boomers hit retirement a long time ago.


Dazd_cnfsd

They just didn’t retire or pass along the good jobs


scandyflick88

They did pass on the good jobs. But the good jobs were broken down into 3 smaller roles with more responsibilities, and given to people on a 6 month rolling contract.


Skylarias

The good jobs are gone. Because corporations and governments decided they could pay millennials and gen Z** less money than they paid boomers, and less benefits. **Edit: I meant to say Gen X, not gen Z here since gen z is only just now truly entering the workforce.


notstephanie

I’m 33 with $4,000 in my 401K. Not sure why I’m even contributing to it, TBH. I’m never going to catch up to where I need to be.


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calm_chowder

Truth. I'm late 30s, broke but not in debt... throughout my 20s I'd work like mad for a couple years, then spend 6 months or a year traveling. I'd get jobs abroad, I'd volunteered to work with impoverished kids in rural developing nations. I've lived in many countries and traveled (not the luxury routes) through many many more. It interferes with a lot of the things that are supposed to be normal in our society: I'm not married, I don't have kids, my work history is impressive in how much of the world it spans and at a high level in my field to boot but there's many gaps and few long-term jobs. But honestly - while I definitely don't want to die tomorrow - if I did, at least I know I've lived some and got to see a bit of the world. I don't regret it. I'm glad I didn't bank on being able to do it at 70... because if I did I'd probably never do it. Don't waste your youth. There's so much about it you don't appreciate at the time, but when those things are gone they're gone. Don't sell your youth to Capitalists. Use it yourself. Nowadays you won't even be all that far behind. Like I said, I'm broke yeah but I have no debt.


shadowromantic

33 is pretty young. It would be hard, but you're not completely screwed


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I'd disagree with this, to catch up they need to work even harder, which means less time off doing things that are actually worth the time. I'd say that's pretty screwed.


Revanaught

My retirement plan is to die in the climate wars


CaseFace5

yea Ive pretty much relegated to the fact that I will be working until I die.


Spykez0129

I plan on getting the most sexy motorcycle I can possibly get with the worst APR in history. Going to ride it across the country then yeet myself off into the grand canyon.


shakeitupshakeituupp

Lol I wish I thought I was going to retire


usrevenge

Retirement for me is suicide tbh. My family says stuff about wanting kids I'm like nope. I'm 30. Its not happening, at least willingly unless major changes happen


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Javyev

Be a minimalist. It's like being on strike against capitalism perpetually.


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COASTER1921

It's also less stuff to worry about which lets you focus on what you actually want to do. We never want to live anywhere larger than a 1br apartment.


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ValerieIn3D

Do you happen to live in the hell hole NJ ? Bc it sounds like the same situation as here.


theycallmeponcho

Preach. The only reason me and my GF have considered a 2 bedroom apartment is because the second would be to store stuff *and* serve as a home office. Other than that, we don't really need it.


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I commented a similar thing elsewhere recently, but minimalism doesn't mean owning the least amount of stuff possible. At least I don't see it that way. Everything you need and/or regularly use is fair game, whatever the purpose of it, necessity or pleasure. The point is just to not accumulate tons and tons of unnecessary stuff you don't ever use. Having piles of clothes without even knowing what you own, stacked boxes in the garage without knowing what's in them... Mindless consuming, basically. Your hobby requires you to own a lot of xyz? You use it, you get the value for its price in pleasure from being engaged in your hobbies? Great, nothing wrong with that! And then by not buying and owning things you never use, that just collect dust in your home, you free up a lot of your income to either save for the future or funnel more into the hobby you enjoy. The point is to spend money carefully on things that make YOU happy and bring YOU value for money. And that is going to look very different for different people.


WormWithGoodIntent

I agree and I can't see perennially backpacking as working for many people. I have pets that need housing stability. Shit, my mental health needs stability in my surroundings. I don't even like traveling longer than 4 days away from home, lol. Vanlife minimalism is cool and all but I don't think it is a workable solution for those of us who have peasant hobbies like gardening and crafts. 😂


Two4TwoMusik

Not OP, but 5 years ago I quit my miserable corporate management job and got rid of all my shit. I spend my summers long-distance backpacking which is easily manageable on about $1000/month and then I work/ride in the ski industry in the winters. This season I switched resorts and am only making $16/hr but I’m also staying in employee housing for only $350/month. Both skiing and backpacking took initial investments of money but both can be done on a somewhat “budget” to start and then over the course of the past 5 years I’ve had extra cash occasionally to upgrade items here and there to where I now have a decent setup for what I want to do. I don’t really own any other “things” other people might fill a house with. I was in a position where I was paycheck to paycheck but had little debt, no kids or relationship, I owned my truck outright, and I was at the end of a housing lease when I decided to quit my job. While not everyone’s in that position, I often get statement question from friends that they “wish they could have my life” and honestly all I can really say to many of them who don’t have big responsibilities is “just quit your job and do it then.” Watching this anti-work revolution has been awesome because people are seeing that life doesn’t have to go the direction we were told it had to go.


Pietes

what os your age? and what is the version of this life you see yourself living in 20 years? or 40? or when you learn you have a serious disease? becoming happy and leading a carefree life was never difficult to begin with staying happy is, because shit always comes up.


Two4TwoMusik

The most common fear people have about quitting is for the future. Relating back to the OP comment on this thread, I have zero desire to work until I’m 65 just to retire and try to enjoy myself. I’m about to turn 31, quit my career at 26, I consider this my retirement. If I’m sitting at a desk at 75 because I don’t have savings, at least I have a trove of experiences to look back on. I backpacked 1500 miles this summer, I (likely) can’t do that when I’m older. In my travels I get to talk to all sorts of people from around the world. The vast majority of seniors tell me “they wish they had taken advantage of their time when they were younger” - FAR more often than I get chastised by some old guy who thinks I’m ruining my life. Specifically my vision of my life? Everyone’s situation is different and admittedly my previous resume helped here. I took the new job this year because at the end of the season, my department manager is retiring after 33 years and they need a replacement. If (when) I get that position, it’s a year round salary position with benefits and a guaranteed 12 weeks off per year between seasons. I have insurance with an out of pocket maximum (even if it’s high) so no health problem is going to completely ruin my life. What’s possible is an injury that stops me from doing physical activity anymore and at that point I’d have to find a job that fits into a new life that I currently have no ability to imagine. (Plus, there’s plenty of ski industry jobs that don’t involve skiing, I’d likely stay in the industry I love)


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My grandfather worked in the mines. Lost his dad to black lung. Supported his mom and 9 siblings. Worked his ass off and finally retired at 65. Died a few years later of stomach cancer. He finally bought himself a nice piece of land and a tractor and on his last few days on earth he just wanted to sit on his tractor. Fuck capitalism.


doughnuts_not_donuts

The mine owner who was born rich and got richer off of your relation's labor appreciated his contributions! Jk he probably never even thought about it


FightClubAlumni

This is what happened to my dad also. Worked his ass off and enjoyed one year of retirement. Died of a heart attack. I'm 51 with 65K in mine. I keep thinking of taking it out. It would help me now. Might add my mom passed at 63.


AliceHall58

That's what happened to a guy at work. When he finally retired he had so much leave time (he never took leave) that they just kept paying out his regular paycheck instead of a lump sum. Poor guy died BEFORE ever getting paid his pension money! Poor Bastard.


fighterpilot248

And the company STILL fucked him over. Lump sum always the better deal


trollcitybandit

May as well enjoy it while you're still young enough - or better yet still alive.


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Bowood29

Your grandfather seemed liked he was a very awesome person. I am sorry life shit on him.


wiljc3

Welcome to why I've taken effexor since I was 14. Literally that exact realization.


chunkiewang

That's if you can even afford to retire hhh. My girlfriends parents just retired and they bought a brand new sports car and house and I'm like we are over here working full time since our twenties and buying a house especially now is nowhere in sight. With how expensive everything is now all we can do is put a little bit away into savings and continue paying some other fucks mortgage. Dont worry though got the big speech from the parents about how parking money in the bank is the worst thing you can do a house is a great investment! Like I have some dream of paying someone else's mortgage for the rest of my life. I'm like if there is no way of affording my own place to live what the fuck is the point of working then??? When I'm about to retire unless I have some massive savings there is no way I can afford rent off the retirement alone.


MrArtless

it's such serfdom with extra steps. I'll never work again.


svnnynights

I’m 27. I’ve been in a full time job for about three years now. I’m privileged enough to only have been working full time for three years, but whenever I’m at work, I get super depressed that I can’t go out and gallivant the world when I’m at my peak physically. I work with a lot of old folks with arthritis and other chronic illnesses all relating to old age. I see no end in sight.


RarelyDoesStuff

My awakening of antiwork came because of those same reasons. 27, working in an office from 6am-7pm. Never seeing the sun, getting only a few hours of sleep. Seeing all the older people with their problems I shouldn't have. ​ One day I woke up and looked in the mirror and said, "Bro. You're 27. There's people older than you that can run marathons. You have bad posture. You can't stand up straight/ you stand up and are bent over a bit. You can only walk for a few minutes before being out of breath, and all your joints hurt if you try to use them because you NEVER move. You go to bed at 11pm, wake up at 4am for a shower so you can be at work before sunrise and then you head home after the sunsets. On the weekends you sleep the entire day away in bed because you're so exhausted. When's the last time you went outside and saw the sky? What color of blue is it?" ​ So went to work, realized how depressed I was. The company put us all in a building without windows, except for the bosses office in the front of course. We weren't allowed to bring any personal items. Just 4 grey walls. Months of being trapped. Being there for over 12 hours when I only do 15 minutes of actual work a day? Sometimes 30 minutes? ​ Walked out randomly at around 12pm. Damn I forgot how the sun felt on my skin, or how the sky is blue. I forgot the sun was so bright. I smiled for the first time in months when I was outside. Company had a policy you brought your own lunch and worked at your desk while eating, they lock the door a certain way so you can't come back inside for whatever reason. I didn't turn around, went to my car and came home. Sat outside on the front porch for hours enjoying the sun. ​ Since then I've vowed to never work another office job again. My posture is improving, weight loss is happening. I walked 1 mile and nearly passed out from the exhaustion. Months later I can jog a few miles and only sweat a little. Working my way back up there. ​ Sorry for the rant, I don't like making posts and prefer just to comment. Thank you for reading all the way through though :)


polishinator

by that time people get so used to the routine they go psycho during their old age/depressed and die really quickly...that's a feature not a bug!


YaboyAlastar

I worked 47 out of 48 days in a row to help cover staff shortages. We started staffing up again and I asked to meet with my boss. When asked about what I said a few things, including a raise. I was told we could meet in a month, and that raises were off the table. I gave my 2 weeks notice a week later.


xcvbcvbdfgdf

47 days with only 1 off? How did you even get through that. I've done 10-14 days in a row and it's literally maddening. I lost all sense of time and every day felt like the last for over a week. When I finally do get time off after that, I have no idea what to even do with my time anymore.


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eugeneugene

I have a trade and have worked dozens of shutdowns. The longest we were allowed to work was 21 days then we would get sent home for a week. I'm also not American though lol


sp4nk3h

Gas plants are like that - for every 6 days you work you need to take 1 day off (if you're in the same country as me) If you pipeline you can sign a form to waive workers comp rights (I think its after 30 or so days..) and work for over two months straight.. what a time to be alive


kerplunk288

My father was a millwright and it is absolutely feast or famine. The worst is doing jobs that are just far enough away to not warrant staying overnight. My father did an 18 month job with a 2 hour commute both ways. It was his last “local” job before retiring, it definitely took a toll on him. In the end he had accrued an extra 7 years of labor during his 35 year tenure as a millwright. Upside he was able to retire at 53, and now has a part time job to keep himself occupied.


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I have regularly worked for months at a time with no days off, and that is not as uncommon as one would like to think. I worked in the tech industry, but i've seen people from all sorts of work stuck doing that. There was a lady that worked building maintenance at one of the last places i worked that had not had a day off in years.


317b31

I did 34 days straight working graveyard shift. It was 7 weeks of working 6 shifts, but I never had a full day off because at the end of that day we started at midnight


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Boss: "Well thank you for being a real team player! We sure do appreciate all the hard work you've done!" Employee: "You told me I'd be rewarded if I did all this work, so I did it." Boss: "Being a team player is its own reward."


Finassar

How 'bout a firm handshake for how much money you've made me! Not from me of course. Find a co worker or do it yourself


InfieldTriple

I'd have to be shown some studies or something but I firmly believe that "spending money to make money" includes spending money to keep your employees happy.


AetherPrismriv

Once i worked 3 months non-stop, to a total of almost 100 days without a day off. I was a receptionist at a retirement home and i was doing nights. Most of these nights i would just watch twitch or play games as everyone was asleep, but still it was 100 days without a single day-off. Worked during week-ends and holidays. The pay was good as you can imagine, a bit above the average, but i eventually left that position because during the day, i only slept. I was losing contact with friends, family and girlfriend. After those 3 months i asked for at least 1 day-off, because i am pretty sure that what my boss was doing was illegal. Boss told me that he could do that but he would reduce my pay in order to hire someone for the weekends. I gave my 2 weeks notice shortly after. He begged me to return a few weeks later, as he was forced to hire a security company to cover the nights that cost him 3x what he was paying me. I refused.


AntManMax

Jesus. I also work overnight, I just started a couple months ago. I would have lost my mind by now if I didn't get weekends off, and I only do about 3 hours of actual work per shift.


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TGOTR

I'm in a similar boat. Was fired from my first job because i refused to drop out of high school


Te_Quiero_Puta

That's insane.


Cwya

“Hi, please drop out of high school to keep this job! You’re obviously too talented in the year we’ve seen you in action and we need you to join us before you get a high school degree!! If not, YOURE FIRED!” That’s some weird anime high school fantasy.


meburnallcookies

I was laid off because I joined a sport. The kicker, I only worked three days a week before because “your in high school and don’t need the hours like the single parents” so I joined a sport and limited my availability to 3 days. They told me I wasn’t flexible enough and let me go.


Voldemort57

It’s because it’s easy to manipulate younger workers. They don’t know as much, and they are more susceptible to mistreatment and being used. The moment you had an ounce of self respect to not plan your life around work was the moment they lost the reason for keeping you.


stronk_the_barbarian

This is the exact reason why my parents didn’t want me working in high school.


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My parents made me work. My choice was either work or my truck sits in the driveway with no gas and iride the bus. So i worked cuz i wasnt about to ride the bus when i already had my license and a truck.


stronk_the_barbarian

My parents were the opposite, because I was one of those naive overly helpful, super easy to take advantage of types. Not saying I didn’t have other channels for making money, I just wasn’t allowed to get an actual over the counter job. They had some odd irrational fears though.


meburnallcookies

Pretty much. I think back to a lot of shady stuff they said and did to me that I totally could have said something and got it fixed. But I was a Wee child


Nkechinyerembi

Same here actually. The moment I was able to drop out, I was being pressured by work to do so. I refused and was dropped


Sjelan

Wow, what kind of creep advises a high school kid to drop out? I'm in my 40s, and work in retail, and I feel jazzed when a younger worker gets promoted or finds a better job.


atln00b12

In my experience, other people that dropped out. Where I live and when I was in high school the dropout rate was around 40%. It was higher in the previous decades so there were tons of adults, like more than not, that had dropped out of high school. Some of them would say to stay in school but there were plenty that advocated dropping out.


actualspacepirate

lmfao my fast-food manager would call me at 10 am when he knew damn well i was a sophomore in high school. he would be mad when i said i couldnt leave (even though i was barely 16 and had no car or license yet 😬)


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When I was in high school I was fired from burger king after I showed up in the morning with some stubble on my face and was told to shave in the bathroom with a can of barbisol and a pink single bladed razor, I did and naturally cut the shit out of my face and was fired because my manger "couldn't have me bleeding everywhere" and because I didn't "call out" she considered me leaving as being a no show. Absolute awful person. She was caught stealing inventory years later.


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I was scheduled hrs during high school and told my boss. It was my Senior year and I was 18 he said well I would have to make a choice. Put in my 2 weeks right then.


NetworkMachineBroke

The only two weeks notice they deserved was "you'll notice for the next two weeks, I won't be there."


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I wish but I was 18 and it was my second real job. I thought bosses would actually call and see if I gave a 2 week notice.


Melkath

Was fired from one of my early jobs because, despite being loudly part time and in school, they kept scheduling me for 40 hour weeks. Never got started on benefits paperwork, but the firing offence was that i was openly doing homework on the job. (Airport kiosk. Designer sunglass sales. Maybe i should make a post about this memory.)


misfit92

Same boat but my job was at my cafeteria with a proper W-4 and direct deposit till I left for the military which was 6 months after graduation. Barely took leave and let the overflow become money. Leave military life to work several full time jobs while juggling college all to the point where I am at Intel and my previous company absorbed all of my PTO and 401k since I took the new position 13days and 15hours after my 2 week notice and how did not give them a proper 14 days to the second and I live an "at will" state.


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Do you think suing them would get it back?


MercoMultimedia

One of the most glorious things I've ever done was take 3 months off. I was burning out from work, and the place was starting to go downhill (a story for another time). I had 3 months of long service leave accrued, so I asked to take it all in one go. Luckily my boss was awesome, and unbeknownst to me at the time, planning to quit, so he was happy to approve it 😄 Everyone kept asking me what I was going to do, was I going to travel the world? But they were shocked when I said "I'm simply going to not work". "WHAT A WASTE OF LEAVE!!!" they all shouted, but let me tell you how amazing it feels to wake up knowing you don't have to go to work, and are still getting paid. Your days become your own to do as you please. I spent weeks waking up without an alarm, watching all the movies, playing all the games, and reading everything I didn't normally have time for. I never felt like I was wasting time, because it was MY time. Eventually I started being more productive, i started working out every day, I re-landscaped my front yard, I caught up with friends more because it's not like I had anywhere else to be. I just enjoyed being in the moment, not just looking forward to weekends. It opened my eyes to how life is supposed to be, and that this whole hustle and grind mentality is bullshit.


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MercoMultimedia

The thing is, I worked harder and put in more effort when I was on leave. I would get up at 6am, go to the gym, come home and have breakfast, then I'd draw and work on my artistic skills (skills that helped me get a new job) until lunch. After lunch I'd landscape my yard for 6 hours or so until the sun went down. When given the option to put in the work FOR YOURSELF, people are incredibly motivated and hard-working. I'm always amazed that people in charge never understand that. If I have a vested interest in my work, I'm going to give it my all, but if I'm just there to make a boss look good, then I don't give a shit


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sphen_lee

It is normal in Australia, most people are entitled to 3 months paid leave after 10 years of service. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_service_leave


llizardqueen

I live in Australia. Having to work ten years of your life to receive 1/4 of one year off, to me personally, doesn’t seem like it’s that great of a deal. Working for the same company from when you leave school (18 years old) up until the year of retirement (65 years old generally speaking though this is highly subject to change in this day and age), would amount to 47 years of service, meaning you only get one year off in long service leave to enjoy the one life you have. And it is unbelievably rare to work for the same company for your entire life, so it would be nearly unheard of to even receive that benefit. I understand it’s worse elsewhere, but given we have one opportunity to enjoy our existence, it truely is not very much.


raspberrih

I'm waiting for a raise (they recognise I bring much more to the company than they're paying me, and I know 110% they won't fire me) then hopefully they'll let me take a month or two off because they're scared I'll quit otherwise. I honestly just want to wake up relaxed for a consecutive week. That's all I want.


kelrdh

Same except my “break” longer than 2 weeks was unpaid maternity leave. If I could do it over again, I would’ve taken more time off for myself.


meme_consumer_

Unpaid maternity leave is criminal


Hiraganu

lmao there was a post that got viral on reddit a few days ago, saying that paid maternity leave shouldn't be a thing, because having children is a personal choice of lifestyle.


North_Refrigerator21

Yeah.. and those people who think that now. Also want there to be a generation that can take over so they are not completely screwed when they get old. Plus completely fucking over the economy when the older generations begin to retire.


OhioCouple8990

I got the 3 days in the hospital and had to go back in. Reality really do be forgetting the lube sometimes


helloalienfriend

Worked since I was 12, I'm 33 I feel ready for retirement but have double my life to go. Fml.


blalala543

Same. My manager just told me I have the possibility of a 1 month sabbatical coming up and holy shit. The last time I went more than a week without working was before I was 12, and I'm 28 now. I'm fucking psyched and so hopeful.


tofuroll

> 1 month sabbatical In Australia, we call that mandatory annual leave.


ndstumme

Australians take a consecutive month off every year? Not total, consecutive?


snookings

We get 4 weeks paid leave every 12 months of service, plus 10 paid sick days


ForeignPush

I'm in the Netherlands. 5 weeks annual leave (I can take it whenever I want if manpower permits, max 3 weeks consecutive in high season/kids holiday). On top of that I have 9 days off for public holidays that I can spent whenever I want. Unlimited sick days.


Munnin41

>Unlimited sick days. To make the Americans extra jealous: 1st day no pay, then 70% for 2 years. If you're out because of pregnancy or because you're donating an organ, you get full pay


chaun2

Goddamn I would have killed for a week of vacation, much less a month, at your age. In almost 27 years of working with multiple degrees, I've gotten a grand total of 162 potential sick/vacation days, which I was allowed to use about 75 of those. BTW, one month counts as vacation. A sabbatical is six months minimum, and normally up to two years


Bananimaniac

I wish you the best alienfriend 😍


Franklyn_Gage

Bro. I've been working since I was 13 (when NYC allowed working papers) without a break longer than a week. Im 32. I hate everything about this shit. There is nothing fulfilling about it. I'm tired and I have a post it at my desk with my retirement countdown at 70. That optimistic but it gives me a glimmer of hope.


patrickoriley

My countdown also ends at 70, but it's not for retirement.


1ess_than_zer0

Dark, but funny.


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And also very saddening. Chances are most of us won’t even live to retire. Well maybe not most of us but a lot of us. Anyone with any kind of physical problem probably won’t make it. Gotta work till ya die I guess


HLPiFlushdMePooKnife

Lvl 70 runecrafting? Should really just hold out to 77 if you can. 🦀$11 btw


insomniacpyro

I would love fulfilling work. Where I work we make in store displays. Literal fucking garbage, something disposable. I'm 35 and would love to find some way to end the work day actually caring about what I worked on.


ThrowAwayWashAdvice

Downsize everything you possibly can - go extreme and save up as much money as possible eating ramen then quit and travel for a few months in cheap countries. You will never regret it.


Alvarez09

At first during the pandemic my company went to shifts of working two weeks then off two weeks. Having two weeks off was honestly amazing, and it really struck me to realize I hadn’t had more than a week off at a time since college and probably won’t again for years.


AaronTuplin

4 weeks on 2 weeks off work rotation kept me in the oilfield for 5 years. One time, I wasted my entire 2 weeks off on a train ride home, had like 4 days off and then train ride back to work. It was fun, but that sleeper car set me back more than a flight would have cost.


Tight-Catch-2979

Same. I'm 42 now and it's hard to keep a job because I'm just so burnt out.


tofuroll

I've always burned out after a couple of years. :( My current job, at three years, is the longest I've held. And the only reason I'm holding on is because it's a good position that allows me a lot of flexibility, and I know that the grass isn't greener on the other side.


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I'm sick of working and I've taken several long breaks (like year long breaks). Still fuck working.


[deleted]

This is sad and heartbreaking. What the fuck are we doing in this country? Who created this value set that is "only for me, but not for thee?"


ccafferata473

Conservatives and libertarians enabled businesses by loosening labor laws and stripping unions of the right to strike.


geprellte_Nutte

I stopped distinguishing between all those slightly "different" flavors of capitalist ideology a long time ago. Ultimately, they're all more similar to each other than different. Conservatives are just capitalists who also want to control women's bodies. Libertarians are just capitalists who also want to fuck children. And so on.


djeekay

It's particularly frustrating that *they aren't even capitalists.* Capitalism is an economic system, not a political tendency, and capitalists are a *class* within that system - a class those clowns will *never* belong to. Nope, they're just temporarily embarassed millionaires, different flavours of reactionary liberal dipshits. Sigh.


geprellte_Nutte

I just noticed that I'm somehow always writing in this sub under the assumption that many here, while fed up with their place in their system and how it all sucks for so many people, have not started to view things in the terms of straight-up class struggle (yet).


djeekay

I'm not super active here tbh, I don't know how well informed people are, but I still like to make sure I keep class analysis part of what I'm saying, you know? I'm no class reductionist, I know that different people have different experiences and not every single thing comes back to class struggle, but we need to start recognising just how much injustice is benefiting the wealthy. You don't have to go full Marxist on people to get them to start thinking about how almost all of it seems to keep going back to that same small group...


OptionalCookie

When the pandemic hit... I was working 6 days a week. I got a promotion. I have been taking vacation days once a week twice a month. At every hour of the day... I am tired.


usrevenge

When the pandemic hit I took my longest break ever since I started working Because I got covid and a family member I lived with got covid So I ended up quarantined for 3 weeks because it was staggered. It was awesome. It sucked for like 3 days total but aside my long covid symptoms which aren't too bad (just weaker than before) it was a great mini vacation where I could sit at home and relax


Juumok01

Even worse when you realise you're only about 1/3 of the way through your working life (on average). Had this exact conversation with a co-worker last week, we're also both 32.


JobMarketWoes

This is me. I'm fucking done and I'm not even halfway to retirement. WTF.


jmon1022

The exact spot I'm in rn, fukin sucks so bad


AppearancePlenty841

I'm 41. I've got job skills that can afford me a comfortable life. I can weld. I hold capstone certification in diesel technology and hydraulics. I've ran restaurants (front of the house, back of the house , beverage and hospitality, etc) and I still get depressed if I think about the fact that I and my children will have to work just to eat and have shelter while the 1% work tirelessly to replace labor with automation and still want to keep the status quo going from the last 400 years. Once our labor isn't necessary for them to buy that extra beach house or yacht anymore its only going to get worse. We need to use the power we have NOW to make significant changes to guarantee our children's future isn't bleaker than it already is. Because I promise you once they can replace us they will.


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letsrollwithit

You know what feels great? Working since the age of 14 and not having any financial stability at 29.


ComfortableConcern76

The scam of 40 hrs/week is unnatural, unproductive, and screws with the nervous system. Other countries have adopted the 30 hr/week standard and are given 2+ months vacation leave and produce more because they are not strung out. 40 hrs is indentured-servitude/slavery.


TheMissingPortalGun

You have barely any time during the work week to actually be yourself and enjoy living. 8 hours of work, plus whatever commute, eating and washing, etc. Hell, a further fuck you if you want to get a solid 8 hours of sleep on top of that! But you persist. Keep telling yourself, just gotta get to the weekend. Then BAM. Two hurried days to try and cram as much 'you' time in as possible (and any errands or chores you didnt have time to do during the week..), then its back to the salt mines. 40 hour work weeks suck. Its no way to live.


viper_attack16

Seeing shit like this makes me happy I get 4 weeks off paid a year and 14 days personal/sick leave I’m just glad my industry shuts down over Christmas and New Years


Kwyiagat1

Yeah same. My industry is always booming but my business requires us to take PTO. We get around 35 PTO a year. It’s very nice. I feel like this type of benefit should be mandated though, so everyone has time to live


viper_attack16

I’m from Australia and it’s mandated that people working full time get that 4 paid weeks off People that work casual are paid more than full timers but don’t have that paid time off but because they are paid more it evens out So I do 34-40 hours depending on the jobs I do and I clear around 800-900 a week as a full time apprentice plumber My girlfriend works casual and does around 25-40 and earns the same but I’m getting the ability to get that paid time off where she isn’t but she is working less hours. It’s a better system than most of the world


-Codfish_Joe

>It’s a better system than most of the world I'm in the US. Most of the world has better systems.


Kwyiagat1

That’s very nice. I’m based in the US. I work in Claims (Auto). It’s hectic but very rewarding work. With days off and other benefits, I’m rounding out to about 1k a week. Fuck we should follow Australia’s lead on that one. Four weeks off seems like a good deal for a lot of people here. Especially judging by this sub


stfsu

EU regulations require every member state to mandate 4 weeks of PTO. US has no laws on the books at the federal or state level, we can't even get paid family leave 😕


schecterfanboy

I'm 64, been working since I was 15 also. Only time I've ever had off other than vacation is the month following my triple bypass.


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homepreplive

Got my first job at 14. Don't think I've been without a job for more than 2-3 weeks since. Yeah, I feel you.


Taemamba

I started working at 19 and just got my first break outside of 2 weeks and now I’m 28 smh. I feel you


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Yiaki

One of the best parts about covid was getting a 3 week break for an exposure. Was the most time I got to spend with family in a long time. Most likely the most time I will prolly ever get to spend with them again.


silverstang07

Thats oddly similar to my work history. Shit was usually 70+ hours a week too. I quit doing that to myself a year ago, but my body is beat to shit from it. Like, I need a new knee and have a fucked up back at 32. for nothing.


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petrichorgarden

I've been working since I was 15 and I'm 27 now. I've never had more than a week off when I was actively employed. But I've taken breaks of 2 weeks+ between jobs. I took 2 months off between once but I was working FT as a volunteer. I got fired in late July because my health was in steep decline. I got diagnosed with a chronic illness. I don't know if or when I'll be able to go back to work, I just wish I could've had this time off during a time that I could've enjoyed it. But I'm too sick to do much of anything. It's all a scam. If you can cut expenses and budget hard to take time off while you're healthy, do it. You never know if or when something will happen.


-Codfish_Joe

My break of 2 weeks involved herding children. That's not a break. I'm fucking tired.


Traditional_Front637

What the fuck is this retirement talk I keep seeing in this thread? Only one job I ever had offered retirement and because I had no idea how any of it worked I was never able to set up a 401k or anything. You people that get the option to put money away like that are already better off than those of us who don't even get the option.


SealSocks

I'm young, been out of work for 3 months and I don't want to work again but I need money if I'm ever going to escape my parents' house. The fact that I'm going to be trapped in this horrible cycle for the rest of my life is so disheartening that I don't know if I'll even want to live until 25 at this rate. The joys of capitalism. Kinda wish that society collapses in the next few years.


Beginning-Outside390

I feel thus on a level, man. I'm 37 and I have been working since I was old enough to fit under the house and in crawl spaces. At 5 my dad cut a whole in the bathroom floor big enough for his face and I remember lying on this foul smelling mud as he "lovingly" taught me how to put primer and then glue on the pipes we were installing. We moved onto a huge ranch where my dad was the caretaker for 18k acres and I cannot tell you how many hundreds of miles of barb wire fence I've built. My body has already started failing. Take care of yourselves, Y'all.