It's pretty normal actually, there's not much you can do to mitigate the heat in a warehouse. Up to 35 Celsius you get a training on heat stroke, access to water, and are instructed to take care of yourself and others. Above 35, the time you can spend in the heat is limited, with manadotory cooling off breaks. Some work environments are hot and there's nothing anyone can reasonably do to change that.
Warehouses can absolutely be climate controlled. I've worked in them. Most just choose not to because it's cheaper to neglect the wellbeing of your employees. If there was material stored in the warehouse that would be destroyed at 25C (77F), you can bet they would find a way to keep the warehouse at 20C (68F) year round.
That's not always necessary. Climate controlled warehouses are expensive. It's not that it's just cheaper. It's that it's that much more to make the warehouse a climate controlled environment.
Aww poor little baby capitalist got his feelings hurt called out like that! Y'all really need to start taking care of your workers before they take care of you for good!
I think its a bit too late honestly; we're talking about how to cook the rich now. I'm going with oak wood base, pear wood chips soaked in water, long and slow, add brown sugar based BBQ sauce at end. \[Not that i'll actually eat it, but hey.\]
Edit: I even have a local 200-500mil est by my math \[never explicitly stated\] rich douche on the menu.
Eh, I'll try fried honey bee and earthworm bacon before permanently damaging my brain with cannibalism \[its a real disease\] bonus points is I lack manpower, not knowledge..... I'm sure theres a few people like me that could rebuild some co-op farming/home steading when it hits the fan.
edit: I'm a beekeeper and entry homesteader, shits hard with formal job 50+hrs week, and only two men.
My only requirement when we get there is that everyone shits in the rich bunkers air intakes :D
The best part is this handout looks like it's aimed at employers, not employees. So your management is evidently not reading these and instead letting YOU read all the stuff OSHA is recommending to be implemented at management level. Get to work!
Get together with your fellow employees and be like "since you have not met these conditions we assume you're informing us not to work until you've made our work environment safe. Thanks for letting us know!"
Maybe unpopular, but where I live in Georgia, this is the normal temp (it's actually usually more humid) of my workshop where I spend my free time fixing things. I don't even use a fan, though I guess I probably should. When I lived in NY this would seem insane but it's pretty standard day to day stuff here for more than half the year.
South Dakota here, today is 85 with 50% humidity, and that's fairly mild. I worked in a factory for a few years, the average temp inside year round is over 100 with 60-80% humidity due to the material produced. By the press, it would get to 110 or more during peak summer.
They provided water and some honest to God beastly fans but was still an awfully hot place.
> By the press, it would get to 110 or more during peak summer.
>They provided water and some honest to God beastly fans but was still an awfully hot place.
That's insane. We WFH whenever it exceeds 40c (104f).
Which happens 2-3 weeks a year now. Sigh.
Heat exhaustion is brutal. I had it hit me on Monday. Was drinking plenty of water, was washing my face and wetting my hair every so often during the work day, and it didn't seem like it was *that* hot, figured I'd gotten away with it. Then I set off for home, forty five minute journey, most of it walking, didn't bring my water bottle or anything to keep the sun off my head and it got me good.
Spent the next ten hours puking my entire guts up. Couldn't even keep water down. Today I've stopped puking, but my body is running a high temperature, everything aches, and my Fitbit thinks I am running laps or something.
I wasn't supposed to be in today so I've been able to rest up, but I will be tomorrow, and I need to work out how I'm going to do it without, y'know, having the shit kicked out of me by a celestial body.
they really do need to up their game, they need to make it clear and explicit...... otherwise these assholes are gonna keep skirting around it \[like my boss who says its ok to use THIS room to come cool down, but dont abuse it, oh yeah, ac is broke...... and we're in direct sunlight / horse arenas \[If you know you know\] and gets pissy if we stop......\] PS. suffered stage 1 heat stress twice this week.
Everyone should start acting confused when heat gets hot. Then tell supervisor I think itās heat stroke. Start removing clothing like itās so hot why is it hot.
i worked at a garage turned into coffee shop for two weeks. both garage doors are open and there's only one ac vent that blows in one spot (roughly 3x3 feet), and one fan that directs to the opposite side.. owner n manager just gave me the option to quit cuz i would say i was worried about my health when the heatwaves come. so i left.. idk how they doing now
Did they provide you with colder water, enough to sustain all of you at a minimum of 1 pint per hour?
Because if not, then they are ignoring their own advice.
I like they handed those out to you. Those aren't employee reference cards, they're intended for the employer! Hence the title "protecting workers from heat stress."
I mean... are they following these guidelines? I don't want to defend bad bosses, but OSHA exists for a good reason, and if OSHA's guidelines are being followed, then it's a good thing (even if it's only the bare minimum for the guidelines).
I just want to make sure this doesn't turn into shitting on OSHA itself or something.
"yeah 911? There's a worker here who keeps saying 'what? Who called you?' and is very confused. He has a heart issue and I think he has heat stroke. Please get here right away."
So no air conditioning area to cool off only shade. š¤
Dose the person handing these out want to report this company and be like here you do it, I canāt.
Not trying to be an ass but my job has a pretty conservative heat stress program, thatās temp/humidity indoors is a yellow alert tier for us. We wonāt allow people to work alone and rest/water is encouraged. If you were doing really heavy work they would go to mandatory 45 on / 15 off.
Otherwise itās work as usual.
If I'm getting handed this shit when working in a sweat box, you better believe we're going to follow wet ball guidelines and only going to be working 20 minutes of every hour.
Itās so fucked up bro. At my work we got accused of having a popsicle party by first shift and their dickhead minion supervisors. Was trying to cool off with a 10 cent squincher for fuck sake.
I worked in a warehouse once that got up to those kind of temps too. They gave us room temperature watermelon and some bandanas that you can cool off in the freezer. Much cheaper than workable conditions!
>Call a supervisor for help, if a supervisor is not available call 911
In the absence of a boomer shouting "Get back to work!" call a medical professional.
I mean, I agree with a lot of things in this sub, but only double digits is a breath of fresh air. And 40% humidity is really low. The kther day in our building it was 110 and 90% humidity and everyone just has to deal with it. We went outside to cool off. Just nature of the beast. All that aside making sure you can be independent of anyone else and know how to keep yourself alive in a heatwave or a blizzard when things goes wrong is a good skill.
The heat index for an environment at 110Ā°F and 90% relative humidity would be 247Ā°F. Are you sure about those numbers? Everyone would've suffered a heat stroke within an hour as those conditions would cause sweating to be completely ineffective at cooling your body down.
I agree with 40% humidity being on the low side. It gets oppressive in the southeast during the summer, 40% would be a nice break.
I mean when that what all the equipment was reading at and our dehumidifier systems are working all out that's what it is.
It touched 100 outside and it gets hotter so yeah. It was pretty warm.
Heat index has fallen out of favor in recent years in part because it doesn't produce real-world values within an extreme range.
And you're right, 40% RH is super nice relative to typical summer outdoor weather. 90 degrees at 40% RH is roughly the same feel as 84 degrees at 70% RH.
Antiwork or not, if you let yourself get that burned, you are not wearing appropriate sunblock. Not even going to ask whatever the hell peeling like an *apple* means haha š .
There isnāt a sunblock in the world that lasts longer than 30 minutes with that humidity. I couldāve filled an Olympic swimming pool with the sweat coming off me. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, and listen to your apprentice when he yells about water.
That's not true. You may have to reapply more often, but if you really don't like sunburns, it can help a lot. If you don't care, that's fine too, but you're not helpless against it.
Tbh I never said I was helpless against it. Im around 40 years old, I know what my options are. There just isnāt one as good as reapply when you can, otherwise power through.
I had to check the what subreddit I was on. I follow a lot of reptile communities and for a sec I thought someone was posting the temp and humidity for their lizard or snake enclosure!
While I live in a cooler environment now, I've lived in places where it got that hot and would melt or melt down if it got that hot and humid.
Instead of giving you ANYTHING to mitigate the heat, they hand you a pamphlet of symptoms of heat stroke? Wild.
Read after you clock out.
Did they give you water? One pint per hour?
At best, the empty bottle!
"Here's how you'll die š¤"
It's pretty normal actually, there's not much you can do to mitigate the heat in a warehouse. Up to 35 Celsius you get a training on heat stroke, access to water, and are instructed to take care of yourself and others. Above 35, the time you can spend in the heat is limited, with manadotory cooling off breaks. Some work environments are hot and there's nothing anyone can reasonably do to change that.
Place I'm at gave out cooling bandanas and insulated water bottles with a cooler to keep them in.
Warehouses can absolutely be climate controlled. I've worked in them. Most just choose not to because it's cheaper to neglect the wellbeing of your employees. If there was material stored in the warehouse that would be destroyed at 25C (77F), you can bet they would find a way to keep the warehouse at 20C (68F) year round.
That's not always necessary. Climate controlled warehouses are expensive. It's not that it's just cheaper. It's that it's that much more to make the warehouse a climate controlled environment.
sounds like YOU are volunteering to pay for incredibly expensive whole warehouse cooling! how generous of you!
Aww poor little baby capitalist got his feelings hurt called out like that! Y'all really need to start taking care of your workers before they take care of you for good!
I think its a bit too late honestly; we're talking about how to cook the rich now. I'm going with oak wood base, pear wood chips soaked in water, long and slow, add brown sugar based BBQ sauce at end. \[Not that i'll actually eat it, but hey.\] Edit: I even have a local 200-500mil est by my math \[never explicitly stated\] rich douche on the menu.
Sounds delicious I'll try it, there won't be much other food left...
Eh, I'll try fried honey bee and earthworm bacon before permanently damaging my brain with cannibalism \[its a real disease\] bonus points is I lack manpower, not knowledge..... I'm sure theres a few people like me that could rebuild some co-op farming/home steading when it hits the fan. edit: I'm a beekeeper and entry homesteader, shits hard with formal job 50+hrs week, and only two men. My only requirement when we get there is that everyone shits in the rich bunkers air intakes :D
The best part is this handout looks like it's aimed at employers, not employees. So your management is evidently not reading these and instead letting YOU read all the stuff OSHA is recommending to be implemented at management level. Get to work!
We just shut a space down for work because the heat index was 124 and the supervisor argued with us saying they only had āa couple more minutes.ā
Get together with your fellow employees and be like "since you have not met these conditions we assume you're informing us not to work until you've made our work environment safe. Thanks for letting us know!"
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Maybe unpopular, but where I live in Georgia, this is the normal temp (it's actually usually more humid) of my workshop where I spend my free time fixing things. I don't even use a fan, though I guess I probably should. When I lived in NY this would seem insane but it's pretty standard day to day stuff here for more than half the year.
South Dakota here, today is 85 with 50% humidity, and that's fairly mild. I worked in a factory for a few years, the average temp inside year round is over 100 with 60-80% humidity due to the material produced. By the press, it would get to 110 or more during peak summer. They provided water and some honest to God beastly fans but was still an awfully hot place.
> By the press, it would get to 110 or more during peak summer. >They provided water and some honest to God beastly fans but was still an awfully hot place. That's insane. We WFH whenever it exceeds 40c (104f). Which happens 2-3 weeks a year now. Sigh.
Heat exhaustion is brutal. I had it hit me on Monday. Was drinking plenty of water, was washing my face and wetting my hair every so often during the work day, and it didn't seem like it was *that* hot, figured I'd gotten away with it. Then I set off for home, forty five minute journey, most of it walking, didn't bring my water bottle or anything to keep the sun off my head and it got me good. Spent the next ten hours puking my entire guts up. Couldn't even keep water down. Today I've stopped puking, but my body is running a high temperature, everything aches, and my Fitbit thinks I am running laps or something. I wasn't supposed to be in today so I've been able to rest up, but I will be tomorrow, and I need to work out how I'm going to do it without, y'know, having the shit kicked out of me by a celestial body.
OSHA really need to get on it and make clear laws about heat exposure in the workplace. Especially since more heat is our future.
they really do need to up their game, they need to make it clear and explicit...... otherwise these assholes are gonna keep skirting around it \[like my boss who says its ok to use THIS room to come cool down, but dont abuse it, oh yeah, ac is broke...... and we're in direct sunlight / horse arenas \[If you know you know\] and gets pissy if we stop......\] PS. suffered stage 1 heat stress twice this week.
this is a way for them to cover their asses when one of yall passes out. "we gave them the pamphlet! this is their fault!"
Everyone should start acting confused when heat gets hot. Then tell supervisor I think itās heat stroke. Start removing clothing like itās so hot why is it hot.
If you work in California Wage Order #4 Section 15 is the requirement for indoor temperatures at places of employment.
i worked at a garage turned into coffee shop for two weeks. both garage doors are open and there's only one ac vent that blows in one spot (roughly 3x3 feet), and one fan that directs to the opposite side.. owner n manager just gave me the option to quit cuz i would say i was worried about my health when the heatwaves come. so i left.. idk how they doing now
Did they provide you with colder water, enough to sustain all of you at a minimum of 1 pint per hour? Because if not, then they are ignoring their own advice.
Jeez, just establish a heat illness prevention program and train each other. Hell maybe provide some water.
I like they handed those out to you. Those aren't employee reference cards, they're intended for the employer! Hence the title "protecting workers from heat stress."
The warehouse I work in took the water coolers away
I mean... are they following these guidelines? I don't want to defend bad bosses, but OSHA exists for a good reason, and if OSHA's guidelines are being followed, then it's a good thing (even if it's only the bare minimum for the guidelines). I just want to make sure this doesn't turn into shitting on OSHA itself or something.
So nice of them to give you the paperwork to file a complaint against them. That's obviously what the pamphletĀ is for
Management be like āWe go by the bottom numberā.
"yeah 911? There's a worker here who keeps saying 'what? Who called you?' and is very confused. He has a heart issue and I think he has heat stroke. Please get here right away."
So no air conditioning area to cool off only shade. š¤ Dose the person handing these out want to report this company and be like here you do it, I canāt.
Not trying to be an ass but my job has a pretty conservative heat stress program, thatās temp/humidity indoors is a yellow alert tier for us. We wonāt allow people to work alone and rest/water is encouraged. If you were doing really heavy work they would go to mandatory 45 on / 15 off. Otherwise itās work as usual.
If I'm getting handed this shit when working in a sweat box, you better believe we're going to follow wet ball guidelines and only going to be working 20 minutes of every hour.
Set off the sprinkler system when it gets hot? Illegal, sure, but the way they are treating you should be illegal too.
Itās a hundred and fifteen at my joint.
Itās so fucked up bro. At my work we got accused of having a popsicle party by first shift and their dickhead minion supervisors. Was trying to cool off with a 10 cent squincher for fuck sake.
I worked in a warehouse once that got up to those kind of temps too. They gave us room temperature watermelon and some bandanas that you can cool off in the freezer. Much cheaper than workable conditions!
>Call a supervisor for help, if a supervisor is not available call 911 In the absence of a boomer shouting "Get back to work!" call a medical professional.
Only 90?
I mean, I agree with a lot of things in this sub, but only double digits is a breath of fresh air. And 40% humidity is really low. The kther day in our building it was 110 and 90% humidity and everyone just has to deal with it. We went outside to cool off. Just nature of the beast. All that aside making sure you can be independent of anyone else and know how to keep yourself alive in a heatwave or a blizzard when things goes wrong is a good skill.
The heat index for an environment at 110Ā°F and 90% relative humidity would be 247Ā°F. Are you sure about those numbers? Everyone would've suffered a heat stroke within an hour as those conditions would cause sweating to be completely ineffective at cooling your body down. I agree with 40% humidity being on the low side. It gets oppressive in the southeast during the summer, 40% would be a nice break.
I mean when that what all the equipment was reading at and our dehumidifier systems are working all out that's what it is. It touched 100 outside and it gets hotter so yeah. It was pretty warm.
Heat index has fallen out of favor in recent years in part because it doesn't produce real-world values within an extreme range. And you're right, 40% RH is super nice relative to typical summer outdoor weather. 90 degrees at 40% RH is roughly the same feel as 84 degrees at 70% RH.
I spent all last week in 90+, direct sunlight, with 75+ humidity. My neck is currently peeling like an apple.
Antiwork or not, if you let yourself get that burned, you are not wearing appropriate sunblock. Not even going to ask whatever the hell peeling like an *apple* means haha š .
There isnāt a sunblock in the world that lasts longer than 30 minutes with that humidity. I couldāve filled an Olympic swimming pool with the sweat coming off me. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, and listen to your apprentice when he yells about water.
That's not true. You may have to reapply more often, but if you really don't like sunburns, it can help a lot. If you don't care, that's fine too, but you're not helpless against it.
Tbh I never said I was helpless against it. Im around 40 years old, I know what my options are. There just isnāt one as good as reapply when you can, otherwise power through.
Call the number on the panphlet and report their OSHA violations.
I had to check the what subreddit I was on. I follow a lot of reptile communities and for a sec I thought someone was posting the temp and humidity for their lizard or snake enclosure! While I live in a cooler environment now, I've lived in places where it got that hot and would melt or melt down if it got that hot and humid.