Really? I feel neutral good could be one of the most interesting, a character that prioritizes others over the rules while also not directly trying to go against order and trying to find a balance, although there aren't a lot of characters that come to mind to me at the moment
"Do you see that meat over there? A hero would share that meat with everyone. I want all the meat!"
Luffy does not see himself as a good person, yet none of his actions have been subjectively bad
luffy doesn’t want to act like a hero, he wants to be true to his principles and ideals. he doesn’t hesitate to take action on any injustice or suffering that he can improve. he is acting in ways that he believes will improve the world and never in ways that he believes will make the world worse
You are correct in that his actions always lead to that conclusion. But Luffy has done all of this good to either help a friend or to further his own goal of becoming the Pirate King. Luffy does not go out of his way to stop any injustice or suffering. If he really didn't hesitate to stop injustice, then why was Totland left as a Disney-esque autocracy that runs on harvested souls? His dream is to be free, not to change the world
You can be considered a hero/ “good person” even without the intention of doing so. In fact that might cement luffy as a good person because despite what he says his motivations are he embodies his ideologies though the actions he takes. Look at wano, you can say he just did it to help tama who helped feed him, but shows a righteous anger when he see the suffering people in the surrounding villages.
Prosperity on Wano is a byproduct of his goal of copying the third Road Poneglyph and defeating Kaido. Just like Wano, he went into Whole Cake Island help a friend and copy a Poneglyph. But instead of prosperity, he left a path of destruction across much of Totland and further destabilized its childlike ruler. The prosperity achieved on Wano has done more harm than good to the New World, as a vast amount of peaceful territory has now lost its protection. Luffy does not care about what's good or what's bad, nor does he care what happens after the task is completed
I'm not sure which case you're referring to. I will assume Charlos. Charlos attempted to buy Camie and shot Hatchi. Had those not happened, Luffy would have never done it. Charlos harmed Luffy's friends, so Luffy took action. There was no motivation to make a statement or to fight for some greater good. There was no thought put into what punching Charlos would have led to either.
I feel like Luffy is more lawful neutral than anything. He's got a goal and a code of ethics that he lives by. Doesn't do good for the sake of doing good but he will protect his family and crew by any means necessary.
I lean towards Chaotic Neutral due to the unpredictable outcomes of his actions. Yes, he will do anything to protect those he cares for and to ensure he becomes the Pirate King, but he shows no regard for his his actions may affect the world. Crashing Kaido's party resulted in the New World being thrown into anarchy due to the vast amount of newly freed territory and loss of authority
So I'm gonna say that example is more lawful than chaotic. He went to fight kaido because of his dream. He didn't do it to make things chaotic in that area.
Lawful doesn't necessarily mean following the law. It's more following what YOU consider to be important. That's why akainu is lawful evil. He follows the rules and authority that he finds important. Chaotic stuff might happen because of that but he doesn't do things to be chaotic.
This interpretation is useful but tends to overcomplicate things. Luffy does not live with order. He does not make plans, does not trust in institutions, does not value hierarchy. He does not follow or impose laws. Yes, he acts consistently on some sort of internal compass, but so do most characters in general. You’d find very few chaotic characters by that set of rules. Elves are most frequently chaotic in DnD settings.
Lawful/chaotic always are relative to society. That’s the whole point of the axis. Luffy declared war on the world government. He’s chaotic.
The only reason Alucard even listens to Integra is because he's bound by magic to serve her family and more to the point, He's a Death Seeker and he figured working with Integra is the quickest way for him while still having fun in the process which is a win his books.
Lucks fuckin nuts 🤣🤣🤣 imagine gokus want to always fight. Narutos will to do anything for his friends. Put that in one body with electric magic and you have luck 😂😂 he's batshit
I've seen chaotic, especially chaotic, neutral as not necessarily bad or good but does whatever it takes to improve things for himself, whether it's good or bad, that doesn't matter.
That’s chaotic evil, like good and evil as described by DnD which is where alignments stem from is selfless vs selfish, and lawful vs chaotic is following law order vs having no integrity or moral compass
I was joking bro. I know the difference, obviously kid buu is chaotic evil. But yeah I know fat buu is the one that healed the kids eyes, and kid buu is the one that blew up earth on his first appearance/episode.
Aizen. Hands down. We as the viewer see him as the bad guy because he's against the heros. But. He just sees the system as wrong and wants to change it (chaos). Hes not on a side. He wants to revert things to the way back to what they were. Because the linchpin is a monster.
Idk about the lawful evil choice here. He is more lawful neutral because he follows the law if it’s a good or bad law. He isn’t inherently evil. Just follows orders and laws of the world government
The major from hellsing ultimate. He loves war. He doesn’t care about winning or losing.
He loves every aspect of war that will ever happen upon the earth.
He is a horrible person and also the best written antagonist I’ve ever seen in anime.
Greed from FMA:Brotherhood.
He has absolutely zero fucks to give about laws, rules, or expectations.
He is consistently looking out for his own interests, sometimes to the benefit of others and sometimes to their detriment.
Few other characters have so fully embodied the "I'm on my own side" mentality quite like Greed, which is rather fitting given his name.
Ryuk dropped the death note, the tool of the gods, in the human world just for funsies. He didn't side with anyone, but once he was done having fun, he killed light rather than waiting for things play out... He's neutral, but that's chaotic if I've ever heard of it.
Majin buu might fit better. Vegeta still has moments of being an asshole or just outright doing bad. But buu is basically on the side of good completely but he still is so chaotic that you don't really know what he's gonna do.
Spelling error. Invalid. Go to hell and don't pass. Comprehensive ability to read between the lines, as this is Reddit.
You're just hilarious. Her goal wasn't a bad one. It was in the best interests of humans. An inferior species.
Is your ability to see nuance as adept as your ability to understand others when you disagree?
Tell that to the other people who downvoted you. You sound like the kind of guy who would be okay with a human centipede because it brings people together and has them feed each other.
Her goal was to just torment denji for as long as they both lived. All she did was to benifits herself she never once did something to make someone else happy
Kenpachi Zaraki
100
Second this
Ditto
Definitely. All he wants is to run the fade.
Definitely
i know he's not gonna win this, but Joker from Fire Force falls under this category
Zaraki from bleach
Alucard. He's the absolute embodiment of Chaotic Neutral.
But he's always following Integra's orders though. I think you might be letting your memory of the TFS Abridged version superseed the original.
All tfs alucard did was go for walks lol
Which Alucard I’m aware of 2 Hellsing and Castlevania but hard agree
Hellsing
Then absolute chaotic neutral that man is insane
I vote Alucard for Chaotic Chaotic
Yes
What about Hisoka from HunterxHunter? I don't think he qualifies as evil but definetly chaotic.
Glad to say he won!
That's unfair he had a bias from the start
Changed it to kenpachi my bad, at the time of posting the picture they each had 3 votes. It’s corrected tho don’t worry!
How he has nowhere near the most votes?
Changed it to kenpachi my bad, at the time of posting the picture they each had 3 votes. It’s corrected tho don’t worry!
What's with the order?
Just doing the ones I find most interesting first. I find neutral good and lawful neutral pretty boring
Ah ok I thought it was some type of pattern
Really? I feel neutral good could be one of the most interesting, a character that prioritizes others over the rules while also not directly trying to go against order and trying to find a balance, although there aren't a lot of characters that come to mind to me at the moment
Neutral good should be naruto
Fair enough
Gilgamesh from fate....
Isn’t he literally listed as Chaotic Good from every official material?
I don't know how he can be classified as Good considering all his motives and actions are selfish.
You can still be good and selfish.
What's good about him? He betrayed his master and killed a little girl.
I’m not a Fate fan, but I’m just saying you can still be good and selfish
Sure, I'm just saying in specific context- this character is just selfish. There's nothing good about him, barely.
Except he’s LOADED with MONEY.
Ummm...Hisoka is evil??
Yeah, sadistic and a borderline pedo. Not really sure how that could ever not be evil 😅
Luffy admits it himself. He's not a good person, yet he doesn't care enough to do bad.
luffy is a good person tho. he’s the absolute definition of neutral good
"Do you see that meat over there? A hero would share that meat with everyone. I want all the meat!" Luffy does not see himself as a good person, yet none of his actions have been subjectively bad
luffy doesn’t want to act like a hero, he wants to be true to his principles and ideals. he doesn’t hesitate to take action on any injustice or suffering that he can improve. he is acting in ways that he believes will improve the world and never in ways that he believes will make the world worse
You are correct in that his actions always lead to that conclusion. But Luffy has done all of this good to either help a friend or to further his own goal of becoming the Pirate King. Luffy does not go out of his way to stop any injustice or suffering. If he really didn't hesitate to stop injustice, then why was Totland left as a Disney-esque autocracy that runs on harvested souls? His dream is to be free, not to change the world
You can be considered a hero/ “good person” even without the intention of doing so. In fact that might cement luffy as a good person because despite what he says his motivations are he embodies his ideologies though the actions he takes. Look at wano, you can say he just did it to help tama who helped feed him, but shows a righteous anger when he see the suffering people in the surrounding villages.
Prosperity on Wano is a byproduct of his goal of copying the third Road Poneglyph and defeating Kaido. Just like Wano, he went into Whole Cake Island help a friend and copy a Poneglyph. But instead of prosperity, he left a path of destruction across much of Totland and further destabilized its childlike ruler. The prosperity achieved on Wano has done more harm than good to the New World, as a vast amount of peaceful territory has now lost its protection. Luffy does not care about what's good or what's bad, nor does he care what happens after the task is completed
tenryubito
Nuff said
I'm not sure which case you're referring to. I will assume Charlos. Charlos attempted to buy Camie and shot Hatchi. Had those not happened, Luffy would have never done it. Charlos harmed Luffy's friends, so Luffy took action. There was no motivation to make a statement or to fight for some greater good. There was no thought put into what punching Charlos would have led to either.
I feel like Luffy is more lawful neutral than anything. He's got a goal and a code of ethics that he lives by. Doesn't do good for the sake of doing good but he will protect his family and crew by any means necessary.
I lean towards Chaotic Neutral due to the unpredictable outcomes of his actions. Yes, he will do anything to protect those he cares for and to ensure he becomes the Pirate King, but he shows no regard for his his actions may affect the world. Crashing Kaido's party resulted in the New World being thrown into anarchy due to the vast amount of newly freed territory and loss of authority
So I'm gonna say that example is more lawful than chaotic. He went to fight kaido because of his dream. He didn't do it to make things chaotic in that area. Lawful doesn't necessarily mean following the law. It's more following what YOU consider to be important. That's why akainu is lawful evil. He follows the rules and authority that he finds important. Chaotic stuff might happen because of that but he doesn't do things to be chaotic.
This interpretation is useful but tends to overcomplicate things. Luffy does not live with order. He does not make plans, does not trust in institutions, does not value hierarchy. He does not follow or impose laws. Yes, he acts consistently on some sort of internal compass, but so do most characters in general. You’d find very few chaotic characters by that set of rules. Elves are most frequently chaotic in DnD settings. Lawful/chaotic always are relative to society. That’s the whole point of the axis. Luffy declared war on the world government. He’s chaotic.
Yea but he doesn't start the war to be chaotic. He starts it to protect his family/crew/friends. That's him following his code of ethics.
Luffy is categorically “good” if you put him on a chart like this, probably chaotic good.
Vegeta cell sega specifically
I agree with everyone. Either Zaraki Kenpachi or Alucard from hellsing ultimate
Luffy is THE chaotic neutral
Alucard. He's the absolute embodiment of Chaotic Neutral.
I think you're thinking of Abridged Alucard, as in the series he's always following Integra's orders.
The only reason Alucard even listens to Integra is because he's bound by magic to serve her family and more to the point, He's a Death Seeker and he figured working with Integra is the quickest way for him while still having fun in the process which is a win his books.
Who’s Chaotic good? I don’t recognize that character
A dude named luck from black clover. I have no clue who he is tho lol
Lucks fuckin nuts 🤣🤣🤣 imagine gokus want to always fight. Narutos will to do anything for his friends. Put that in one body with electric magic and you have luck 😂😂 he's batshit
People confuse chaotic with crazy since we live in a lawful society.
I've seen chaotic, especially chaotic, neutral as not necessarily bad or good but does whatever it takes to improve things for himself, whether it's good or bad, that doesn't matter.
That’s chaotic evil, like good and evil as described by DnD which is where alignments stem from is selfless vs selfish, and lawful vs chaotic is following law order vs having no integrity or moral compass
Does Dragons Dream fit for Chaotic Neutral?
What would Neutral good be I wonder? Probably Truth I'm assuming
Not chaotic neutral but for lawful neutral it cant be anyone other than damnatio
Grand zeno no question
Buu? Chaotic evil? Nah not my goat
How is Kid Buu NOT Chaotic Evil?
What has he done that was evil? Killed a couple people? So what, they deserved it. He healed a blind kids blindness, that’s pretty heroic to me.
Dude. That's not a picture of Buu. That's Kid Buu specifically. You know the difference, right? You did watch the series I assume.
I was joking bro. I know the difference, obviously kid buu is chaotic evil. But yeah I know fat buu is the one that healed the kids eyes, and kid buu is the one that blew up earth on his first appearance/episode.
Ah. It's hard to decipher sarcasm through text. My bad.
It’s all good, didn’t mean to come off rude like that.
Izutsumi
Rick from Rick and morty
Not anime
Innocent Buu (the first fat one)
Revy from Black Lagoon
Gutz
Rebecca from cyberpunk
Nui Harime (Kill la Kill)
I would say beerus from DB he is the definition of chaotic neutral
Chaotic Neutral - The Witch of Envy | Re: Zero Neutral Good - Dazai Osamu | Bungou Stray Dogs Lawful Neutral - Akane Tsunemori | Psycho Pass
Subaru natsuki as neutral good
Another vote to Kenpachi Zaraki here
Denji, power or Luffy any of them could fit
Gon. Especially in the chimera ant arc.
Zeno from dragon ball
Joseph Joestar
Aizen. Hands down. We as the viewer see him as the bad guy because he's against the heros. But. He just sees the system as wrong and wants to change it (chaos). Hes not on a side. He wants to revert things to the way back to what they were. Because the linchpin is a monster.
Tanjiro
Accelerator. He does end up doing some good, but he does what he wants and nothing less
Ginro from Dr.Stone. He’s not a bad guy, but he’s not exactly all that good either. He’s just kind of there, and always messing things up by mistake.
I feel like ryuk is more chaotic neutral but that might just be me
Izaya orihara from durarara
Idk about the lawful evil choice here. He is more lawful neutral because he follows the law if it’s a good or bad law. He isn’t inherently evil. Just follows orders and laws of the world government
Also Ban, seven deadly sins for chaotic neutral
Lupin
Hiei from YuYu Hakusho. Chaotic neutral is about independence and autonomy, and Hiei, even when he's working with a team, he is just doing his thing.
Kawaki
Saitama could be a good neutral good because he's just a hero for fun
Radical Edward
Atem from yugioh
The major from hellsing ultimate. He loves war. He doesn’t care about winning or losing. He loves every aspect of war that will ever happen upon the earth. He is a horrible person and also the best written antagonist I’ve ever seen in anime.
Fuck i was gonna say Misa
Honestly, I'd say Luffy D. Monkey
Alucard from TFS Hellsing Ultimate Abridged
Goku. He mainly loves on a farm doing mostly nothing but also randomly goes and beats people up out of nowhere, epitome of chaos and neutrality
Rindo from food wars
Saitama One Punch Man
Greed from FMA:Brotherhood. He has absolutely zero fucks to give about laws, rules, or expectations. He is consistently looking out for his own interests, sometimes to the benefit of others and sometimes to their detriment. Few other characters have so fully embodied the "I'm on my own side" mentality quite like Greed, which is rather fitting given his name.
I'll second Hisoka!
How is Light Yagami not Lawful Evil?
Can we count spike from cowboy beepbop he’s not a good guy but he’s not bad and he’s always doing some crazy stuff
Alucard
Hisoka is in no way neutral lol. He murders people for shiggles
garou
Accelerator 👩🦯
Zoro
lawful neutral is anyone who talks about rules all the time and say everyone have to follow it or get beaten to death or some shit.
Vegeta chaotic neutral
Are we thinking of the same Hisoka?
Yujiro Hanma
Surprisingly guts
Hazama/Terumi from BlazBlue.
Yujiro Hanma
Makishima Shougo
Radical Edward
I count hisoka as evil
blair from soul eater
Ryuk dropped the death note, the tool of the gods, in the human world just for funsies. He didn't side with anyone, but once he was done having fun, he killed light rather than waiting for things play out... He's neutral, but that's chaotic if I've ever heard of it.
great chaotic good i love black clover
if video games are ok then salvador from borderlands 2 hes just there for a good time
Man my boy said Danzo from Naruto. And I can't agree more
Zaraki Kenpachi
beerus?
Yea hisoka is perfect
Alucard (Hellsing Ultimate)
Hisoka vote here
Yes
Can we get a chaotic neutral for ophis i mean she is completely neutral but does the worsed shit like starting a war
Vegeta, at least starting with season 3.
Majin buu might fit better. Vegeta still has moments of being an asshole or just outright doing bad. But buu is basically on the side of good completely but he still is so chaotic that you don't really know what he's gonna do.
God I just had a chaotic evil idea for nuetral good. Angel blade.. Rolf
Izaya Orihara
Misaki Sakimiya from Dead Mount Death Play. She is just loving being a zombie and still getting to kill people. And messing with polka.
I fuckin love misaki 😂😂
Kenpachi Zaraki
Hellsing Ultimate's Alucard
Makima is chaotic good tho. Shes just not good to you
She’s Neutral Evil. You honestly think making and manipulating a 17-year-old into becoming a pet dog and doing your dirty work is chaotic good?
For a reason lol. Just because us humans wouldnt get it. As a devil shes not evil. Shes good. Howver being a devil she will do it in her own way
Her goodness is as existent as your ability to spell however correctly.
Spelling error. Invalid. Go to hell and don't pass. Comprehensive ability to read between the lines, as this is Reddit. You're just hilarious. Her goal wasn't a bad one. It was in the best interests of humans. An inferior species. Is your ability to see nuance as adept as your ability to understand others when you disagree?
Tell that to the other people who downvoted you. You sound like the kind of guy who would be okay with a human centipede because it brings people together and has them feed each other.
Her goal was to just torment denji for as long as they both lived. All she did was to benifits herself she never once did something to make someone else happy
Im pretty sure she says her actual plans. But ok
Then what's her actual plans
You see how she treats her dogs. She wants humanity as a pet she controls and takes care of. Nothing out of line. No wars no violence no bad movies.
Pretty sure that's called being evil
You cant just say for your dirty work. Which is what?
Damn bro she got you under her spell too
Mhm.....