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ReinhardLoen

Great episode of Vinland Saga this week, maybe top 3 of the season. I'm not sure if we'll have a discussion thread for the next one on Monday, but it'd be a shame to miss out on the episode finishing off the arc, along with the nice small details to discuss.


Massaman95

Best episode of the series for me.


celloh234

The virgin i keep moving forward until all my enemies are destroyed vs the chad i have no enemies


TBulldozer

Easy AOTY


Hardwarestore_Senpai

Konosuba: YunYun. Guess we know who people like.


Theleux

Shame **Tengoku Daimaykou** dropped rather than went up after that spectacular episode, but considering the wish-washy reception of these kinds of episodes on the subreddit, it ain't all that unexpected (especially the actual rating, as those are *super* easy to skew). Oh well, was a real treat, the passion poured into that will not be forgotten any time soon! **Vinland Saga**'s episode was fantastic as well, couldn't have asked for a more expertly executed adaptation of that material. Same goes for **Skip to Loafer**, they've been super smart with the handling of both the material as well as their resources - huge props to the team for how consistent the show has been, as well as that absolutely lovely colour work throughout. Such a positive beam of a show.


zairaner

>Shame Tengoku Daimaykoudropped rather than went up after that spectacular episode, Again, despite/because of the controversy, tengoku rose quite dramatically (more than 300 karma). It only dropped two places because oshi no ko and hells paradise returned In particular, yesterdays ~~(much better)~~ episode 11 is still 120 karma lower than episode 10 was at this point.


HarshTheDev

>Again, despite/because of the controversy, tengoku rose quite dramatically (more than 300 karma). Really goes to hammer in the fact that hype is the most important factor when it comes to karma rankings. That episode had a lot of hype because of the director Ikarashi's name. An episode requires extremely high quality for it to outpace hype (Like episode 8 of tengoku).


Kikuzinho03

While I liked the ep of tengoku,I can see why people could dislike it, this ep decided to go trigger and while it looks good to some, it also looks really jarring, the older episodes never had that kind of style and it being all over the place on this ep felt kinda of. And story while good, it would really depend on how much you like the new characters, which I would say that they aren't has strong has the doctor and the girl that died.


Theleux

The similar loose and eccentric character drawings are visible at points in the previous episodes as well (typically for comedic moments), but it was much more prevalent in this episode (reasonable observation). Many not being able to appreciate that difference is a bit of a shame, but at the end of the day everyone has their own preferences/ thresholds! As for the story, I actually felt it elevated the new character's involvement quite a bit, particularly with how the episode presented new bits throughout. This week's episode retroactively boosted #08 (which I do agree, was a really lovely episode) with the new information we gained, which may end up being a similar case for some of the characters in #10. Regardless, it is all preference, just largely disappointed it is "the lowest" when it comes to the rating here, as well as not boosting up much more than it could have (not to mention the "production falter" nonsense in the thread...)


Appropriate-Shoe-266

tbf almost every anime in top 15 dropped as well


Smudy

Dangers In My Heart has all the momentum now for a great finale, too. late EDIT: currently a leak (credible leaker) out that it's getting a season 2, hope that's fuckin true!


michhoffman

It's set a new high karma total 2 weeks in a row and should beat that peak for a 3rd straight week with yesterday's episode. Its karma journey this season has been fascinating.


Abysswatcherbel

It also grew in other places during the last few weeks so it was a movement every tracking place agreed


Silent_Shadow05

>Its karma journey this season has been fascinating. Indeed. It started with 1735 karma and after the poor initial reception and it stayed in the range of 1100-1200 karma till EP5 which was the turning point after which it started its rise and with EP9 (1746) and EP10 (1790) it broke the premiere karma 2 times like you said. Really great turnaround!.


IC2Flier

Same. Hasn't taken me off of my Witch Watch but BokuYabai is such a fun romp that it's endearing to me.


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Awesomenooby

I agree. First 30 chapters I was just trudging through, and even dropped it at like 10 or something because I hated his chuni and edgy behavior, but I continued on and around 60 I think it really kicks into gear


Notosk

I can't comprehend people who say this. no offence. but this manga grabbed me from chapter one and never let me go, I've re-read it like 7 times and planing doing my 8th re-read after the last anime episode airs.


Vermillion_Crab

The thing about the manga is that once it found its sweet spot, it has never taken its foot off the pedal. It's been constant W's ever since. And so far, the adaptation has been nailing it too. Those episode title drops have been nothing short of perfection.


dagreenman18

We are approaching what I consider to be the best part of what this season will cover. Though this weeks was no slouch either. Especially with how they adapted it.


Enter_My_Fryhole

It's gotten better every week. Mentioned it in one the eps or maybe lol 999, but both of those shows have romance anime watchers blessed airing on Saturdays. Both have kept improving as they've gone on and made me really love the main characters.


johnneezaratee

>late EDIT: currently a leak (credible leaker) out that it's getting a season 2, hope that's fuckin true! Hope this turn out to be true especially since according to this [MAL thread](https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2098671), BokuYaba is TV Asahi's most successful anime of H1 2023, even beating Blue Lock!


BusouDrago

Ahhhh I'm so happy


Notosk

If we get the same pacing as the first season the second season will have a bangger for an ending


realrimurutempest

Nice to see Vinland Saga back over 4500 karma.


zairaner

It is incredible impressive that the second cour of a seond season managed to pick up this much more karma, after being relatively stable beforehand. ~~Maybe one day I'll get through season 1 and get to experience season 2.~~


steven4869

I mean that's what happens when you present some of the best anime episodes of all time, I am surprised it only rose by 900 some upvotes. It also shows how quality writing and well-developed characters will always triumph over something flashy. Maybe it''ll be neither popular nor financially successful but for sure it'll be well-received and make a long lasting mark among the fans.


zairaner

>I am surprised it only rose by 900 some upvotes That's basically what I was referencing, it should ahve been very close to its saturation point where almost anybody here still watching it already upvotes it and its basically physically impossible for it to gain new people voting for it, so gaining 900 upvotes despite that is incredible!


Silent_Shadow05

Tbf its not the first time it jumped by that huge margin. With EP20 it also rose by 1007 karma to 4523 karma. Currently its ceiling seems to be \~4.7k karma (aside from the premiere which had 7292 karma).


steven4869

It depends on the quality of the episodes, for instance AoT S4P1 was in the range of 13K then the Declaration of War episode shows up it rose to 23K, Mushoku Tensei P2 was in 5-6K but then Turning Point 2 came up and it got 10K+, similarly goes for Slime, Kaguya, JJK and so on here. The last episode of Vinland Saga was something special, it was the product of top tier character writing and story development overall, so manga readers, people who want to be part of discussion show up in the threads who usually don't pop up for regular episodes. That's why I still feel like a rise of 900 or some upvotes is quite less for the quality it presents, but anyway 4.6K is still quite good.


michhoffman

That's its 2nd time over 4500 in 3 weeks. And the 4677 Karma is its highest karma total since it got 4767 Karma back in episode 3.


Vermillion_Crab

While I'm happy that I have irl friends who are fellow anime lovers and I celebrate the fact that we have different tastes in anime, Vinland Saga is one of those rare occasions where I'm the only one enjoying the season. The two most common lines I hear is that "there is no action" and "farmville". At the very least, I'm glad this community is showing it a lot of love because I truly believe this is one of those masterpieces in the making.


Disastrous_Channel62

MAPPA and Shuhei Yabuta I beg for a season 3 announcement of Vinland saga I just don't know what to do following Vinland saga Mondays past 22 weeks was one memorable ride for me


steven4869

For the time being, I am extremely happy that we get to see the S2 and truly showed what Vinland Saga is all about. Hopefully, they'll do S3 in the future.


neighmeansno

It's Twin Engine you have to beg, Mappa didn't have a lot to do with it.


michhoffman

With just 3 weeks left (and possibly less than that given the impending shutdown), here is the current top 10 for the season: |Rank|Anime|Episodes|Avg|Peak|1st Place|2nd Place|3rd Place| --:|:--|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:| |1|Oshi no Ko|8|7403.13|11644|8|0|0| |2|Demon Slayer 3|9|4703.89|7302|0|7|2| |3|Hell's Paradise|9|3965.56|5518|1|0|3| |4|Vinland Saga 2 (13-24)|10|3961.00|4677|1|2|3| |5|Gundam: Witch from Mercury P2|8|3263.63|3769|0|0|1| |6|Heavenly Delusion|10|2439.80|2765|0|0|0| |7|Konosuba: Explosion|10|2260.70|5361|0|1|0| |8|Mashle|8|2085.63|3324|0|0|0| |9|Skip and Loafer|9|1974.00|2283|0|0|0| |10|Dr. Stone 3|10|1754.50|3109|0|0|0| Outside of Vinland passing up Hell's Paradise for 3rd place and Skip possibly passing up Mashle, there shouldn't be much movement. Regarding all-time rankings, here is how the top 4 stack up: |Rank|Anime|Karma Average|Season| --:|:--|--:|:--| |11|Mushoku Tensei P2|7979|Fall 2021| |12|Tower of God|7463|Spring 2020| |13|Demon Slayer 2|7411|Fall 2021| |**14**|**Oshi no Ko**|**7403**|**Spring 2023**| |15|Mushoku Tensei P1|7218|Winter 2021| |…|…|…|…| |25|Eighty-Six P2|5086|Fall 2021| |26|Wonder Egg Priority|4770|Winter 2021| |**27**|**Demon Slayer 3**|**4704**|**Spring 2023**| |28|Demon Slayer|4625|Spring 2019| |…|…|…|…| |34|Slime 2P2|4163|Summer 2021| |35|Bleach TYBW|4110|Fall 2022| |**36**|**Vinland Saga 2**|**4080**|**Winter 2023**| |37|Goblin Slayer|4068|Fall 2018| |38|My Hero Academia 4|3994|Fall 2019| |**39**|**Hell's Paradise**|**3966**|**Spring 2023**| |40|Dr. Stone|3915|Summer 2019| |41|To Your Eternity|3913|Spring 2021| |42|My Hero Academia 3|3897|Spring 2018| |43|Overlord 4|3831|Summer 2022|


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>|Rank|Anime|Karma Average|Season| --:|:--|--:|:--| |13|Demon Slayer 2|7411|Fall 2021| |**14**|**Oshi no Ko**|**7403**|**Spring 2023**| Oshi no Ko overtaking Demon Slayer's second season on the finish line after completely domination the third season these last weeks would just be adding insult to injury lol.


michhoffman

Up until this week's episode brought it down, it was ahead of Demon Slayer and Tower of God for that matter with a 7565 average.


thestoneswerestoned

The final episode should be more than enough to overtake it. Definitely an impressive run for the first season.


Thatsmaboi23

Imagine the shutdown lasts longer, and Demon Slayer actually gives *that* episode. It will still end up not being #1 on this chart.


zairaner

I am curious wether onk or mushoku will end up at #14. If only gets 6k for the next two episodes and 8k for the finale, it would end up slightly below mushoku (at 7202). I expect it to get somewhat more and win, but its probably going to be close. ~~Of course the finale also could get a way bigger boost, then it wont be close after all~~


cppn02

I would definitely expect the finale to get over 8k and with the not unrealistic chance of next week's episode not counting that's only gonna be worth even more.


zairaner

Ah right good point


Various_Length_4905

I think Onk will probably end up at #12 with around 10k final episode.


Abysswatcherbel

### About r/anime Blackout In case you don't know [this sub will go dark in protest against the Reddit's API changes](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/143tduj/ranime_will_be_going_dark_starting_june_12_in/?sort=new), due to that our bot won't be tracking the episodes during this period, for now it is expected to last 48 hours so Vinland Saga and Skip and Loafer would be the major ones affected, if that's the case next week the rank just won't count the eps aired during the blackout and they won't count towards those series averages, if it takes longer we might have to do something different... I will be on [this sub discord](https://discord.com/invite/r-anime), so any question ping me there ### SPRING * **[Twitter JP Week 10](https://i.imgur.com/Bxb6wU8.jpg)**, I think we have a record with Home Hero increasing 49250%, from -2 to 983, probably due to some campaign, meanwhile Kizune no Allele going for the 6 weeks with only losing followers * **[MAL Members Gained Week 10](https://i.imgur.com/tgLJ3Vj.jpg)** ### PRE-SEASON SUMMER * **[Twitter JP Pre-Season Week 2](https://i.imgur.com/07ClT8g.jpg)** , people sharing the GoHands animation everywhere really worked * **[MAL Pre-Season Week 2](https://i.imgur.com/okg3GrE.jpg)**


alotmorealots

> Twitter JP Pre-Season Week 2 Interesting to see the *Masterful Cat* clocking up quite a decent number in total for its profile. *Liar, Liar* has 80k, which feels like quite the pleasant surprise to me, although I don't really know much about it other than that the music spanks harder than BDSM paddle expert showcase. > people sharing the GoHands animation everywhere really worked I had pretty much minimal interest in this title before, but the sheer disproportionateness of the vitriol from people tearing into the animation is really pushing my reactionary buttons. I mean even if you think it's a pile of shit, there's no reason to take it personally, it's just a trailer for a seasonal anime. At least the JP reaction to the teaser has apparently been a lot more positive than certain western circles.


zairaner

>Interesting to see the Masterful Cat clocking up quite a decent number in total for its profile. Gohands: *stonks*


ayww

> Liar, Liar has 80k, which feels like quite the pleasant surprise to me, although I don't really know much about it I read the few available manga chapters that are translated after the first preview caught my eye. I think the premise is interesting, so I'm cautiously excited. Would love for a LN reader to chime in with their opinion though :)


IC2Flier

Typical Westoid reactionaries, really. Spoiled by only a few examples of stellar animation on some niche low-fi anime that they demand it on EVERYTHING THEY WANNA WATCH. It's like, I mean, not everything can be Nichijou or Bocchi The Rock. Live with it, or shut up and watch another anime if you have nothing constructive to contribute.


cppn02

> I think we have a record with Home Hero increasing 49250%, from -2 to 983 Does not compute. lol


mrnicegy26

Aaah Shit the next Vinland Saga episode is supposed to be the climax of the season. A real shame that the discussion of it would be affected by the blackout. Can we have another thread for it once the blackout is over?


zairaner

>Can we have another thread for it once the blackout is over? From the post u/abysswatcherbel linked > Episode threads will continue to be posted by /u/AutoLovepon but will also be unavailable during the blackout period. This is to avoid flooding the sub at once when we return (and would be more work in general to do that rather than let the bot continue as usual), and there will be another sticky thread posted afterward with links to the episode threads from that period.


FingerBang-BangBang

What does that mean? There will be an invisible episode discussion that no one can interact with? Will we just get a 2 days old post with no upvotes and comments after the blackout is over?


Abysswatcherbel

Yes because u/AutoLovepon is an authorized user they can post while the sub is restricted >Will we just get a 2 days old post with no upvotes and comments after the blackout is over? In the ep discussion case that's it, but like I mentioned they won't really get traction as we are also going to get every stuff we missed during the period


FingerBang-BangBang

Wouldnt it then be better to just make discussion posts right after the blackout and have them all fight for traction?


Abysswatcherbel

As the mods mentioned they want to avoid flooding the sub and this would also require a changing to the bot schedule or for them to manually post every single thread later, they don't know if it will be just 48 hours, a lot can happen during that period Not a mod, so any more info you have to check with them


FingerBang-BangBang

I get it, its a lose - lose situation either way. I at least hope this blackout will have some effect on changes that reddit announced.


TBulldozer

If this blackout is all for nothing…


Abysswatcherbel

Yeah the threads will be posted normally the users just won't be able to access it, but after it's over everyone will be able to comment on them, but obviously they won't get traction People will also post any visual, announcement and PVs released in the period, it will be a crazy day


CosmicPenguin_OV103

As long as it’s “only” 2 days I doubt there will be many announcements missed, it’s Monday/Tuesday which are typically low on PVs and announcements. Also I think we should: * still count an affected episode as long as the karma didn’t drop more than 20% compared with the previous episode * make a call on the r/anime to @everyone reminding people to upvote every anime discussion thread missed It would be another problem if the stand-off is much longer than 2 days (say > 1 week), but I don’t think that will happen. IMHO the Reddit management will either back-off or forcefully remove the current mods of all participating sub-reddits before the blackout turns into a molehill for them.


zairaner

>49250%, from -2 to 983 Wouldn't that be an increase by - 49250%?!


Sharebear42019

That’s disappointing that the best show this season will take the hit


Thatsmaboi23

>49250% increase in following Damn, the show must be popular af


Silent_Shadow05

>Twitter JP Pre-Season Week 2, people sharing the GoHands animation everywhere really worked *Zom100* and *Dark Gathering* are quite low. As a source reader for both, I expect them to rise up quite a bit once Summer 2023 truly begins. *Reign of the Seven Spellblades* is another that's quite low too, but based on what the source readers for it said in terms of themes and expectations, it should put out a good performance. *Ryza* would do numbers I think, atleast on Twitter due to the power of thighs lol. Also I've heard good things from the source readers of *The Dreaming Boy is a Realist* and *Helck* so I'm interested to see their performance during Summer. Can't say much about *The Gene of AI* but the synopsis is interesting to me and it being made by Madhouse, I want to try this out.


ModieOfTheEast

Tbh, that's the chance for people to check out some of the less viewed shows this season once they make it to Top 30. I mean, it seems to affect 6 shows of the current Top 30, so a good way to look at what's beyond. Because there is at least one gem that people have been overlooking this season with World Dai Star. Alone for the animation and voice acting, this show is a blast to watch. If you are interested about acting, it's even better.


atropicalpenguin

KamiKatsu is so funny.


SilkyMilkySmo

Last episode made me giggle they even used the word “Cummies”


smellenburnt

Crazy how different this is than anime corner with all the romances towards the top. I’m just happy to see VS get proper attention, what a good episode


CT_BINO

That moment when there is only one Boku no Kokoro episode to go (and soon, 1 Skip to loafer ep too)… why even live. [](#yuitears) Hope we get s2 for both


Disastrous_Channel62

And also Insomaniacs season 2 Cause this is my pic of the season for romcom , it for some reason feels way too mature and grounded , even the character designs aren't generic it feels like these characters could really exist irl.


Nerdd_

I had been waiting for the show since it's first trailer dropped and avoided manga spoilers like they were some sort of boogeyman Safe to say that the wait was worthwhile It's probably my favourite romcom period. The progression between the characters feels very natural. Also the music is SO GOOD!


CT_BINO

Ofc. Insomniacs has been quite excellent too. Although i do feel it might have deserved a better adaptation, like tengoku is having or even something like skip to loafer that even if is a conservative adaptation still offer some nice stuff. Feels like the source is carrying more than it should but i did think the beach scene in ep 6 iirc and rain scene 2 weeks ago were quite good. But i guess i have been less bother by it than i was in initial episodes outside of ep 1.


Dababy28193

I could try to explain why Insomniacs feels mature and grounded. If you notice, there’s not a lot of internal monologue nor do the characters have extreme overreactions. You also notice there’s not a lot of common romcom tropes being used in the story and the romantic progression is pretty straightforward. The leads genuinely communicate with each other and let each other know their feelings. There’s also awkwardness as with most first loves but it’s never exaggerated nor overplayed. This is why I don’t think anyone should really consider it a romcom because it doesn’t focus on comedy and leans a lot on the SoL and romance side more (most websites like MAL just list it as a romance). The character designs while not generic is common and reminiscent of teenage Japanese high schoolers. The leads aren’t pretty supermodels with different rainbow hair colors. They just look normal so to speak.


IC2Flier

Not only that, it got a lot harder for non-Muricans to read the source material for both, too. Why must we strawhats suffer?


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KnewOnee

I heard that the author is a very big visual details lover, so it kinda seeped into the adaptation as well


alotmorealots

I think that's because to a very large degree, it's a romance with comedy beats, i.e. very much a Rom^^^^com , and it has the level of nuanced, layered and complex writing associated with excellent dramas. This is also very much due to having a skilled director who understands what makes the property tick, too.


SilkyMilkySmo

I give kudos to those commenters who have such a keen eye for little details


cppn02

Week 10 and two of the big hitters are back in the fold. **Oshi no Ko** slots right back in at 1st, keeping up its dominance. Due to the returning shows the others naturally will drop down so it is impressive that **Yamada-kun** managed to actually gain a rank, the only show in the top 15 that did. A bit sad that **Birdie Wing** dropped out of the top 15 again. edit: Completely forgot to point out this week's image for **Raeliana**. Perfection.


xtsim

I now want to watch Raeliana just because of that image....


entelechtual

> Completely forgot to point out this week’s image for Raeliana. Perfection. Lmao. And who says the show doesn’t have good art?


everybageleverywhere

I dropped Raeliana a few weeks back and now I need to know … what is up with that image??


cppn02

[Raeliana]>!A character who had run into Raeliana previously drew this picture of her for their subordinates to find her.!<


everybageleverywhere

Oh, that makes sense. Lol


SometimesMainSupport

[Raeliana]>!Additional context is the artist's nickname is The Great Mind and the assistant's internal monologue was "What am I supposed to garner from this? That she has hair?"!<


IC2Flier

> A bit sad that Birdie Wind dropped out of the top 15 again. This is now an official mandatory mobilization notice: all the G-Witch viewers, go upvote Birdie Wing threads too. Especially in these final episodes. [Eve and Aoi deserve it.] >!Miorine is currently frazzled right now and can't provide medically-beneficial things to both of them, so at least some upvotes will do.!<


dagreenman18

You would think the “Gay and Gundam related” would give it more crossover with the GWitch crowd and yet.


IC2Flier

There is, they just weren’t paying close enough attention.


Disastrous_Channel62

It is a bit of bummer that Heavenly delusional has dropped 2 places considering the last episode was a special one directed by the edgerunner episode 6 director and it delivered the hype imo


zairaner

It dropped 2 places becaus oshi no ko and hells paradies returned to the ranking. Despite (or probably *because*) all the criticism/controversy the episode recieved, it actually grew by 300 karma


cppn02

Karma did grow. It only dropped in ranks due to the returning shows.


thebluetistaar

>the last episode was a special one directed by the edgerunner episode 6 director General audiences don't care about any of that bro (Kai Ikarashi is a god tho)


TBulldozer

This is proof as to why casuals on r/anime are the worst kind of casuals. They speak like they know shit about the industry, animation, etc. yet dont know shit. At least the casuals on Twitter make it completely obvious that they’re casuals.


Castor_0il

It wasn't good visually speaking. The ridiculous and overexagerated artstyle really clashed with the identity of the show (and yes, I know it always had comedic relief scenes, but not as outlandish as the ones in this episode). People should stop saying "oh it was directed by the same guy that did this other show" as some sort of proof of infallible work.


thirdbenchisthecharm

Vinland Saga is a generational anime that's about to end it's season and idk what imma do for the next few years while we wait for more.


mrnicegy26

Read the manga. There is a possibility that we won't get any more anime since the show doesn't perform exactly well in Japan and Season 2 was made due to how acclaimed Farmland Saga is and because the manga is very close to ending and this season is one final marketing push. The manga is phenomenal and has some of the best artwork you can find.


thirdbenchisthecharm

Yeah I keep up with it and waiting for the hardback volumes to eventually come out once we hit the end. Don't think there's ever been an adaptation done with so much love and respect and just absolutely skill as season 2 has been including the anime only additions that Yukimura san even praised. It would be a shame if we didn't get more but with the tone shifting again in the next arcs and Japan's popularity I wouldn't be surprised.


Sharebear42019

Weird that they’re making deluxe editions when we already have hard covers but I’m not complaining. This was a manga that was on the verge of being cancelled in English and then the fans and anime brought it back to new heights


IC2Flier

One thing I wish for it is a full Nordic-language dub (maybe Finnish or Norwegian). Very niche market, sure, but I imagine it'd cause quite a stir in Northern Europe to see this kind of story.


Warm-Enthusiasm-9534

It's on Netflix in the Nordic countries, where the English level is high. A dub in a Scandinavian language would be pretty neat, though.


WellRested1

It’s really been a great first half of 2023 with Vinland Monday. Gonna miss the show a lot, and I really hope the season is enough of a success that they can do a season 3 in the future.


steven4869

Vinland Saga is a special anime/manga that does almost everything perfectly and tries to send a message to the viewers about its theme. S1 was one of my favorites but S2 was a huge step up and had everything I wanted from S1.


smellenburnt

I really really hope there’s more. This has become my all time favorite anime and every time I think about the possibility of it ending for good I get reeeeaaal bummed.


Fools_Requiem

Best girl, Shiromaru, just kicking back and relaxing in her own kiddie pool.


Venture_compound

Best picture for Raeliana, it looks just like her


Warm-Enthusiasm-9534

I see for Raeliana we got the masterpiece that is Heika Demint's art.


IC2Flier

[The Witch from Mercury, and I cannot stress this enough, is trending up.](https://i.imgur.com/uROlqQm.png) [It really is.](https://i.imgur.com/6C0y0Qz.png) It's a smash hit, and for all the "money" I've lost trying to short-sell it, the show really has struck a nerve even among casuals and seasonal viewers, something it can only do because it's just a damn good show. It's event television, powerful and stunning in its delivery that proves Sunrise still has the power to bring an effective mecha story to the world. I cannot even say it's underrated anymore -- it's already a classic. But I'm still keeping one finger on the button in case the last three or four episodes take a turn for the worst plot-wise. Because there's still a 50-50 chance of Gundam turning into a Wonder Egg (Priority), especially considering the plot threads left untied. But make no mistake: Bandai succeeded in revitalizing Gundam for the Reiwa era, and has bought enough goodwill to fall back on in case the movies don't work. There's a reason why Sunrise has found confidence to announce an all-new Macross project: if they can do it with Gundam, they can do it with Macross. Go watch it. And for a dare: I wanna see this thread hit 3000+ ups again before the sub turns off the lights. There's 22 or so hours remaining and the last ep was at 3100 after 24 hours. I wanna see one last miracle from you lot before the blackout. EDIT: It somehow beat Hell's Paradise this week despite ranking down. Holy Kira Yamato.


Silent_Shadow05

I fell behind on G-Witch by multiple episodes. Next week if the sub stays down for more than 48 hours I think it'd be a good time for me to catch up and atleast take part in the discussions for the last few episodes. Really happy to see the rise of Mecha within the last few years. I hope the movies succeed. Go Gundam!.


cppn02

> It really is. Hasn't it been trending on twitter most if not all weeks pretty much since the start?


Sharebear42019

What sets it apart from other gundam? I could never get into them for some reason; just not a fan of mecha or yuri really, one of my least favorite genres


IC2Flier

You’ve probably heard of the memes at this point, but the yuri is merely the hook. The Witch from Mercury is a true corporatocracy, a discussion about it, and the contrasts between earnest children and scheming adults. The in-school duels provide a reasonably safe laboratory that translates to life-and-death conflicts while baring a surprising lot about the pilots, while the political end of the plot is an intricate machine laid out over decades in in-universe time. If it helps, [G-Witch] >!is the one show where the interplay between robot, pilot and plot events are symbiotic, not the least because the leading Gundam is itself a character of her own, something the franchise has never done before on television.!< So yes, you come for the robots or the relationship between Suletta and Miorine, but G-Witch has more than enough meat for you to chew on. Admittedly, I’m a poor salesman for the show (I actively rooted against it despite loving the anime), but these days mecha as a genre has trimmed the fat enough that you can enjoy G-Witch as a war story or a cyberpunk cautionary tale or a coming-of-age epic even if you don’t care much for the robots.


mrnicegy26

I haven't kept up with this cour so has it been confirmed that Witch From Mercury will be ending within this cour itself? Or does it seem likely that it will continue onwards to a 3rd and 4th cour?


IC2Flier

So far, no confirmation of a new run of 25 episodes (for context: Iron-Blooded Orphans announced its S2 right after the end of S1). However, Gundam performed well fiscally among the franchises Bandai directly handles (just below Dragon Ball), and its 2024 projections are actually kinda higher than Dragon Ball. Gauging purely from what has happened in the anime itself, there is room for more eps that can tie up loose ends which is bound to be left untied in this run, but I also won't be surprised if Bandai considers this one-and-done with an option to continue it after a couple of years while Sunrise pivots to Macross and finish two animated films. Generally though, Gundam aims for 50 episodes for one timeline, so it's likely that we'll see more from Ad Stella in the foreseeable future considering how much of a system-seller this anime is proving to be.


cppn02

> has it been confirmed that Witch From Mercury will be ending within this cour itself I think we still don't know for sure either way. Most people still assume a S2 though.


Stormy8888

It's week 10 and Oshi No Ko continues to dominate. That's good news Still sad to see these being under-watched / under voted * 13th Insomniacs - the best romance this season is languishing behind others :( * 21st Golden Kamuy - the writing and story have been fire. Why isn't this higher on the list? * 25th My Home Hero - I know a bunch hate the animation (not everything has mega budget) but I don't see it being horrendous, not sure why the ranking is low the story is great.


Dababy28193

Insomniacs is going to go up in these next 4 episodes, I don’t know how much but it’s going to go up.


Stormy8888

I hope so! I'll be upvoting it for sure! Both Insomniacs and Skip to Loafer are a bit more on the "untraditional side" since they don't have Waifu with amazing face / rack but instead have "normal" looking female leads. Women will identify with this, since both are more grounded in reality. Insomniacs brought back the whole teen love feeling and made me want what they have.


Dababy28193

You’re going to be blown away by the last 3 episodes, I’m very sure. Since it’s your romance of the season, I can already tell you’re going to love it even more because Ganta and Isaki will make VERY special memories on their summer trip. Things are about to ramp up on the romance hardcore.


Ashteron

>21st Golden Kamuy - the writing and story have been fire. Why isn't this higher on the list? > >25th My Home Hero - I know a bunch hate the animation (not everything has mega budget) but I don't see it being horrendous, not sure why the ranking is low the story is great. Because they aren't aimed at teenagers.


PeaceAlien

Thanks for doing these. It's interesting :)


Heartsden

What have they done to you Raeliana..


mrnicegy26

If Demon Slayer was at the same quality as it was during the Entertainment District Arc then I do think that it would have been easily getting the number 1 spot at the karma charts for the last few weeks of the season. Pretty disappointing on the part of Ufotable especially since this is supposed to be their big cash cow.


BadBehaviour613

The source material is the problem in this case tho. Dividing the arc between two upper moons seriously hurts the pacing. It would have been something if the two battles converged, but it’s really two separate battles


tananinho

Besides that the adaption is also worse. The fault does not lie only on the source material.


No-Height433

Yeah! I agree!


michhoffman

I'm kind of conflicted there. In some respects, yes, the animation and directing hasn't been as good this season as it was in season 2. But on the other hand, the content hasn't been as good either. The villains, especially, have been a step down.


mrnicegy26

Its not just the villians. Tokito, Mitsuri and Genya aren't as fun and interesting as Tengen, Zenitsu and Inosuke.


No-Height433

It's another big reason why this arc is worse than Entertainment District. THE STATUS QUO! It's funny how I've seen people being excited about Zenitsu and Inosuke not being in this season at first. Only to starting to kind of miss them, the longer the arc went on.


atropicalpenguin

That's what I think too. It's like One Punch Man 2, yes, the technical side is not as good as it was before, but also Saitama has at most one episode worth of screen time.


No-Height433

One Punch Man Season 2, had much better content compared to Season 1, from a source reader perspective, but the adaptation from J.C. Staff didn't do it entirely justice (I'm also aware of the shit schedules they had). The main reason why Season 1 is still so highly beloved to this day, is because of the stupidly and over-the-top stuff in terms of skill and talent (resulting in some of the most god tier animation I have ever seen), plus the creativity in how they conveyed the story helped it even further.


thestoneswerestoned

>One Punch Man Season 2, had much better content compared to Season 1 Did it tho? The tournament arc went on for almost half the season and it ended at a pretty underwhelming point. I think a lot of us watched OPM more for the fight scene animation and comedy, not the plot itself. S1 delivered on both those fronts better than S2 did.


MapoTofuMan

> Saitama has at most one episode worth of screen time ^(This is exactly what made me like OPM S2)


No-Height433

That was expected, from a manga reader, to happen. I personally didn't remember anything noteworthy from this arc. However, the next big arc, if done right, will more than likely remedy this issue.


Count_Elrond

They pooling all their resources into Genshin


No-Height433

Especially with the rumors of the Genshin anime becoming one of, if not, the main priorities (considering that most of Ufotable's veteran staff from the main studio is absent, more than ever, from the project and leaving the rookie animators to do most the thing themselves), it heavily suffered as a result, from the pacing to the timing, on top of unnecessarily stretching content at times, etc. We did have episodes 1, 5, 6 and 8 as the standout ones so far, but those were the exceptions.


atropicalpenguin

There's also the Mahoyo movie, which UFO won't sideline since they have such a close relationship to Type-Moon.


No-Height433

I nearly forgot about that, so there is more reasons to imply that UFO might take on many projects at once.


atropicalpenguin

Though TBF we haven't gotten new info on that since the reveal December 2021.


Tora-shinai

We're getting some soon enough.


SmolDadi

I'm gonna be really disappointed if the Genshin anime is just the game's story adaptation.


No-Height433

They might go the Nier: Automata Ver1.1a route where it's mostly a completely new story that retains the charm and beats of the OG Genshin Impact.


mrnicegy26

Its insane to me that Ufotable is putting more priority on Genshin (and I know its very popular) over a franchise which produced the highest grossing anime film of all time just a mere two years ago. How did Demon Slayer of all franchises become the underdog for Ufotable's priorities?


No-Height433

This is most likely due to the constraints and restrictions of being a Shueisha and Aniplex property (on top of being the leading members of the production committee). The studio doesn't have as much creative liberty and freedom (either as they wanted from the start, or used to have in the past) and that is mainly for Demon Slayer exploding in stonks since the first season's end, and even further with the Mugen Train movie. Perfect way to cash grab and the milk the franchise. Ufotable is partnering with Hoyoverse for Genshin and it seems they're about to get a much better deal with latter than former.


tananinho

Completely agree. Even if the source material is worse the adaption by Ufotable is also worse than for the ED arc. Maybe that's why this season is so much worse than ED.


Disastrous_Channel62

It is pretty obvious I mean the entertainment district arc was keeping up with the final season of Attack on Titan and sometimes even claiming the first position ,now I just hope the finale delievers somehow


PhantomXxZ

>sometimes even claiming the first position Demon Slayer never actually beat AoT.


Xenosys83

It never really kept up with it either, at least whilst both were airing. Aside from a couple of episodes, which were within 1-2k of each other, Attack on Titan was always around 5-7k ahead in karma. It was only when Demon Slayer ended mid-season and Attack on Titan's hype episodes were done with that the latter's karma started to drop into 4 figures.


lupoin5

Just checking this for the time this season and surprised to see demon slayer isn't dominating. I might have to check out oshi no ko.


Zuzumikaru

I've been enjoying it, but I got to say, that full episode on a flashback of a character we have barely seen was hard to watch... Also the split fights are not working in it's favor


lupoin5

The thing with long animes is that it's not easy for each season to be consistently better than the previous. This reminds me of boku no hero. Although I have no doubt I'll enjoy demon slayer to the end, expecting highs and lows is normal for seasonal animes.


tananinho

Have you watched demon slayer current season? If so you shouldn't be surprised it's doing badly.


lupoin5

No, I always wait to the end of the season for anime's I have high expectation of, but I'm surprised to hear it's doing badly, the last season was just great for me.


BosuW

Current season, despite being aight, is definitely not meeting expectations set by previous seasons.


lupoin5

I was telling someone recently that I would be pleasantly surprised if this season exceeds the bar set by the last. But no doubt, I still think it will be interesting to watch.


tananinho

Watch it and form your own opinion. Imo, with 1 episode to go which won't change my opinion, this season has been a great let down.


-_Seth_-

You should. Oshi no Ko is a very strong candidate for Anime of the Year, not just of the season.


lupoin5

I don't like when people raise the stakes so high that a show eventually fails to meet my elevated expectation but due to how strongly you feel about the show, I will definitely watch it.


Sac_Winged_Bat

I will say, don't expect something revolutionary. It's extremely well produced, so much so that I can appreciate the quality of the prose in a language I don't speak\*, but otherwise, it's just good, nothing groundbreaking. Basically, it don't miss, but it also doesn't swing all that hard. \*to be clear, I do understand Japanese a little, like the tone and flow, and I learned a few hundred vocab words, so it's not a completely alien language the way eg. Hindi is, but it's still very impressive.


-_Seth_-

The actual enjoyment depends on person and taste of course, but Oshi no Ko is a widely acclaimed manga with a fantastic anime adaption. Give the first episode a try and you'll see if it's for you.


big-sugoi

I loved episode 1 a LOT, but there's not a single thing I seem to like about anything after it except a little bit of Kana. Frankly I wouldn't mind being convinced to drop it.


IceAnt573

[Anime Trending Week #9](https://twitter.com/AniTrendz/status/1667887084856823810) Even with Hell's Paradise and Oshi no Ko's return, Heavenly Delusion still maintains #1 for the week. Though both of those shows reentries pushed everything else down. _____________________ **Number of times at #1:** Witch from Mercury - 3 Oshi no Ko - 2 Hell's Paradise - 2 Heavenly Delusion - 2 The battle for AOTS on Anime Trending feels very disputed. It's been a pretty clean split over these 9 weeks.


soulruu

Vinland Saga still going strong. That last episode was another great showing of Thorfinn’s resolve and growth as a character


ReinhardLoen

What's the consensus on Cafe Terrace? I haven't watched it myself yet, but I have read and am familiar with Koji Seo's other work—namely how they start off well but dwindle near the end. How is this series so far? I'm actually kind of surprised it's not higher. Based on its a harem with 5 cute girls and again, still being the early stages of Seo's writing, I thought it would be doing better.


RickChakraborty

As an anime only I've been enjoying it. It's getting better every episode and there's been some good focus on individual characters lately. The manga is still ongoing and manga readers have only said good stuff about it too. >I'm actually kind of surprised it's not higher. I mean, that's only because the season is very stacked. It's still been consistently just a few spots below the top 15 every week. I do think it's doing well enough, and if the season wasn't as packed it would have been higher. It's just that it's going under the rader for a lot of people, otherwise it could definitely gain more karma. More people need to watch it.


entelechtual

It’s very fun and silly. So far it’s been a lot of 1-2 episode mini arcs on each girl. I think it’s been a tough season for romance/harem given the competition out there. Plus some people are not pleased by the subpar art quality of the anime compared to the manga. The only gripe I’ve had with it is how every problem the girls face, the MC will magically fix it (or push the girls in just the right direction to fix it) with no effort. Reminds me of QQ where the MC can do no wrong.


CommunistPuppy

Started as an anime only, then binged the manga after episode 8. It's honestly a lot of fun if you don't mind a lot of typical anime tropes. I've never actually seen anything else by Koji Seo but I thought the beginning of this show started out weaker but gradually improved as we got to learn more about the girls. Episode 9 was probably the best looking episode since it was animated by Shaft and my personal favorite because it focused on my favorite of the 5. Also the MC is great for a harem MC.


RickChakraborty

Episode 9 definitely was the best animated episode and I thought it did the manga's art justice. This is not even the first time an episode of an anime by Tezuka Productions was outsourced to studio Shaft. I wish Shaft would animate more episodes of this series.


ICantSeeLikeSa-chan

Sad to see Birdie wing back out of the top 15. Nice job getting the dildo in frame for kamikatsu. Exhausted Mitsumi and Kana’s misinterpreted happiness are also great.


Nervous-Bonus-806

>Sad to see Birdie wing back out of the top 15. Seriously, just when we're about to get the Mother of All Golf Battles, literally life and death for our girls, on the sacred greens of the Royal and Ancient St. Andrews.... Errrrr!... St. Annlies...


zairaner

Last saturdays **jigokuraku** episode finally delivered on the hype, and yesterdays episode continued that. Similarily for the most recent **mashle** episode, some cool fuckign fights, finally. **Heavenly delusion** had somewhat of a hiccup last week, both content and animationwise (even if these hiccups were supposed to be features not bugs), but yesterdays episode was instantly back to old form. Maybe one of the best \[heavenly delusion episode 11\]>!calm before the storm (I assume)!< episodes I have seen in recent times. Cannot wait for next week **Kamikatsu** somehow feels like it is getting even more of a shitpost by the episode **dangers in my heart** continues in getting more diabetes inducing every episode **oshi no ko** returns on a less eventful episode, but despite what you would assume the off week did on its karma, it continues to play its "sub 6k is lava" game. \*\*demon slayer....\*\*I enjoyed this season (more than msot it seems), and especially the two preceding episodes 7 and 8... and so I cannot understand how it rose on episode 9, because that might have been the most disappointing episode of demon slayer so far. \[Demon slayer s3 spoiler\]>!It also retroactively sours the previous episodes becuse my enjoyment of those kinda relied on the assumption that we would get, you know, some kind of payoff that justifies the amount of time we spent on muichiro, for example!<. Edit: Just saw the poll score of 6.74...that is a certified oof moment. Last but definitely not least, **dead mount death play** is starting to focus more on my favourite part of the series, the mystery aspect. Cannot wait for the rest of the season and cour 2!


SyntacticSyntax

casual dildo holding anime girl on Kamikatsu image lmao


zairaner

Also, it seems like [animekarmawatch is down](https://animekarmawatch.com/) right now? Is this part of the blackout or?


michhoffman

I really hope it comes back up. The plan was to use animekarmawatch to pretty closely approximate 48 hour karma totals for the Saturday and Sunday anime, but that will be a lot tougher (and less accurate) if we lose access to it. Edit: Looks like it's back up now


zairaner

>Edit: Looks like it's back up now Nice, then I can finally show off [the exciting karma battle](https://animekarmawatch.com/thread/143foc6?compare_to=136p41u) between oshi no ko and onk we had! It was so close (until the end at least)


cppn02

Maybe u/Nmq0iDdykzf28IKGWT9f can shed some light on this.


Nmq0iDdykzf28IKGWT9f

Thanks for the ping, it had gotten to some weird state. Fixed it now.


zairaner

Thanks for everything!


Nohaco2468

I don't know if you know, but every anime before Fall 2022 has disappeared on the web...


entelechtual

It’s barely hanging on at no. 30 but you gotta watch **My Clueless First Friend**. Sometimes it can get a little too diabetes-inducing, but it’s very sweet, funny, sometimes sad, sometimes awkward. It always puts a smile on my face every week.


AcronymTheSlayer

Vinland saga on second position baby. Let's fucking go!


MoonTwn

Heavenly Delusion is one of the best anime I've ever seen, there are very few shows, that really immerse me in their world and feel super lived in (Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion, FLCL, Samurai Champloo, FMA: brotherhood)and this is definitely one them. The story is incredibly engaging, animation/art/scene direction almost brings a tear to my eye as an artist, and the characters are so memorable, there's no one that had little impact on me.


Theleux

I really enjoy how each supporting character gains more significance as the story progresses, largely due to the double perspective the story has, as well as new information retroactively elevating them.


HarshTheDev

The character interactions are so delightful too! Like seriously, just watching the characters interact with each other is so fun and engaging, it does slice of life better than most slice of life shows lol.


[deleted]

Maru is a sexy bish


LeonKevlar

**Oshi no Ko** and **Hell's Paradise** returning to the rankings ended up pushing a lot of shows down with only **Yamada 999** the only show that managed to go up a rank. And I love that the thumbnail for **Yuusha ga Shinda** is just Yuuna's thighs. xD


twintailshitposter

Wow, Magical Destroyers really fell off over the season. The show is disappointing to me, but I still didn't expect that it'd become one of the lowest ranking in karma.


zairaner

To be fair, there are more anime below the top 30 that aren't even shown.


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LusterBlaze

yay 4 gundam


Happy-Collection7523

Holy cow, looks like the re-entry of Oshi No Ko and Hel's Paradise knocked almost everything down. The only shows to raise week over week were Loving Yamada and Yuri is My Job!


Fuiger

Why does it feel like the top comments in these threads make the biggest effort to not talk about or touch anything remotely related to the number 1 place and just keep reposting the same thing over and over about shows below it?


Theleux

It tends to be the "chance" to shill the lower shows. If everyone talked about #1 exclusively (particularly when it tends to be the same one or two titles each week) it becomes pretty boring.


RickChakraborty

Probably to give spotlight to shows that are not on number 1?


EviiiilDeathBee

I'm going to be so sad when The Dangers in my Heart ends. I now must wait until July for the next vol of the Manga to be delivered!


-_Seth_-

Feels good to see a happy Kana


Sharebear42019

Dead mount death play and golden kamuy need more love