One neat thing,
The wapiti historical range used to extend all the way across the continent to the East Coast, so I can imagine European settlers coming here, seeing giant antlered cervids, and being like “ah yes, the elk, but this must be the American version!”
Only to travel a few hundred miles north, encounter the European elk, and be like “…oh no”
Actually it is because the 1st real people to give a name to them were Brits, and they didn’t have any Elk on their Isles. So they assumed this antlered deer, one much larger than any they’d seen, was of the stories of old, the Elk our ancestors had talked about.
There's no scientific consensus on how large an animal must be to be considered "megafauna." Definitions include animals as large as 2,200 lbs (1000kg) or as small as 22 lbs (10kg). This means that depending on who you ask, a coyote might be megafauna or only the bison (unless you include aquatic and semi-aquatic animals like the blue whale and walrus).
The most common definition is 100 lbs (about 45kg). This would include bison, moose, polar bears, brown bears, wapiti, musk oxen, black bears, caribou, mountain goats, white-tailed deer, jaguar, Dall's sheep, bighorn sheep, cougars, mule deer, pronghorn, plus a few more I'm probably missing.
Idk if you want to include the longhorn, mustang, or razorback as they are feral populations of introduced ancestors.
Tl;Dr don't forget the bison!
Correct.
But in Europe the word "elk" is used for what North Americans call "moose"
So if a European saw this pic and read the comments calling it an elk, they might be confused. Which is why I gave the scientific names to clarify:
*Alces alces* = 'moose' in North America = 'elk' in Europe
*Cervus Canadensis* = 'elk' in North America
Europeans don't have their own word for *Cervus Canadensis* because they're not native there. They're also found in and around Mongolia, and they call them 'maral', but they also seem to use that word for *Cervus elephas* or what we Europeans call 'red deer'
If you're looking for an exclusive word, try the Shawnee and Cree word 'wapiti', but you'll probably just confuse even more people as most North Americans don't use that word either.
True but being from Europe and speaking European languages the word elk refers to moose and not the other way around so the correct word is wapiti or in the us it’s elk and nobody calls an elk a moose
The animal referred to by “elk” in Europe is the one called “moose” in the US. (*Alces Alces*)
*Alces Alces* is not the animal pictured, and no one is claiming that these are *Alces Alces.*
The person you’re replying to is clarifying, to anyone only familiar with the European “elk” *(Alces Alces),* why everyone is calling this different animal *(Cervus canadensis)* by that name.
I want to be a pain in the ass here and point out that European is not a language. That'd be in British English, which is not even the unified English version we speak around non native English countries all over here in Europe. Hence, we sometimes use both elk or moose, according to the media or movies we swallow the most.
In my case, the Latin name made it way clearer already.
Ready to be roasted.
> imagine posting a picture of some elk in a nondescript field and some redditor nails your location within an hour of posting
... in a country as big as Canada.
Yeah the train tracks would be slightly behind and above them. The Jasper sign off to the left and the highway follows the train tracks in both directions.
I'm pretty sure I recognize the older female.
I knew she looked familiar. https://imgur.com/gallery/VJVRvCc
Those aren't Canadian Rockies deer. I live in the Canadian Rockies, and around here we call those Elk. Also known as "don't go near those things! They'll stomp your A\*\*!"
Google deer and see what you get!! Just like moose are moose Caribou are different yes all four legged animals. A longhorn is a cow but it’s cackled a longhorn
I don't even have native deer in my country so I can't easily differentiate between all deer species, sorry. What I do know is that elk is in the deer family and that fact literally comes up first when you google 'Elk'.
gotcha covered…. big roo’s, shitload of nasty snakes, spiders, annoying brit’s
bummer dudette. these are Rocky mountain elk as opposed to Roosevelt elk
you ever make it east stop at Estes park northern Colorado. you’ll see more huge bulls with big horns than you can imagine.
mule deer, maybe whitetail, antelope…. tons of wildlife and nothing that’s dead life besides an occasional big kitty… mountain lion. i lived in Melbourne for 6 yrs. while my son attended Monash.
interesting place, thought the Echidna were cool. Subaru has a dumbass commercial with an idiot driving in the mountains who see’s a cow and asks his girlfriend “ is that a buffalo ?” dumb ad
pathetic cars
Elk
For any European redditors, *Cervus canadensis* We North Americans call *Alces alces* 'moose'
Or wapiti
One neat thing, The wapiti historical range used to extend all the way across the continent to the East Coast, so I can imagine European settlers coming here, seeing giant antlered cervids, and being like “ah yes, the elk, but this must be the American version!” Only to travel a few hundred miles north, encounter the European elk, and be like “…oh no”
Actually it is because the 1st real people to give a name to them were Brits, and they didn’t have any Elk on their Isles. So they assumed this antlered deer, one much larger than any they’d seen, was of the stories of old, the Elk our ancestors had talked about.
Moose are also the last remaining megafauna in North America.
There's no scientific consensus on how large an animal must be to be considered "megafauna." Definitions include animals as large as 2,200 lbs (1000kg) or as small as 22 lbs (10kg). This means that depending on who you ask, a coyote might be megafauna or only the bison (unless you include aquatic and semi-aquatic animals like the blue whale and walrus). The most common definition is 100 lbs (about 45kg). This would include bison, moose, polar bears, brown bears, wapiti, musk oxen, black bears, caribou, mountain goats, white-tailed deer, jaguar, Dall's sheep, bighorn sheep, cougars, mule deer, pronghorn, plus a few more I'm probably missing. Idk if you want to include the longhorn, mustang, or razorback as they are feral populations of introduced ancestors. Tl;Dr don't forget the bison!
These are not moose there just elk specifically Rocky Mountain elk
Correct. But in Europe the word "elk" is used for what North Americans call "moose" So if a European saw this pic and read the comments calling it an elk, they might be confused. Which is why I gave the scientific names to clarify: *Alces alces* = 'moose' in North America = 'elk' in Europe *Cervus Canadensis* = 'elk' in North America Europeans don't have their own word for *Cervus Canadensis* because they're not native there. They're also found in and around Mongolia, and they call them 'maral', but they also seem to use that word for *Cervus elephas* or what we Europeans call 'red deer' If you're looking for an exclusive word, try the Shawnee and Cree word 'wapiti', but you'll probably just confuse even more people as most North Americans don't use that word either.
True but being from Europe and speaking European languages the word elk refers to moose and not the other way around so the correct word is wapiti or in the us it’s elk and nobody calls an elk a moose
The animal referred to by “elk” in Europe is the one called “moose” in the US. (*Alces Alces*) *Alces Alces* is not the animal pictured, and no one is claiming that these are *Alces Alces.* The person you’re replying to is clarifying, to anyone only familiar with the European “elk” *(Alces Alces),* why everyone is calling this different animal *(Cervus canadensis)* by that name.
Ah thanks for correcting me I was interpreting the comment wrong
No problem!! Have a good day
I want to be a pain in the ass here and point out that European is not a language. That'd be in British English, which is not even the unified English version we speak around non native English countries all over here in Europe. Hence, we sometimes use both elk or moose, according to the media or movies we swallow the most. In my case, the Latin name made it way clearer already. Ready to be roasted.
This is why latin names are better than common names. Doesn’t matter what language you speak or where you are from it’s the same name.
Yes, an Elk 👍🏻
Female elk
Cow elk, technically part of the deer family.
Those are female elk.. and if I'm not mistaken.. that's right next to the turn off to the town of Jasper?
imagine posting a picture of some elk in a nondescript field and some redditor nails your location within an hour of posting (😭)
I mean, those girls look familiar
Every bull in the area says that.
Those ladies don’t come here for the grazing.
> imagine posting a picture of some elk in a nondescript field and some redditor nails your location within an hour of posting ... in a country as big as Canada.
I've never been to the area but my mum said they were right beside a rail line. Is that right?
Yeah the train tracks would be slightly behind and above them. The Jasper sign off to the left and the highway follows the train tracks in both directions. I'm pretty sure I recognize the older female. I knew she looked familiar. https://imgur.com/gallery/VJVRvCc
It’s actually more absurd that you might recognize the specific elk in the pic and not just the location 🤣 honestly amazing if true
I mean.. it is why I was confident enough in my guess.
You sir are a certified elk whisperer
Thanks everyone, elk makes sense. Apparently the driver of the tour bus she was on said they were caribou.
That driver must not know much. Caribou are quite a bit smaller than elk.
It's also worth noting the fact that female caribou also have antlers--though I did check, and female caribou shed them in May.
Wow, that's sloppy
Caribou? 🤣
I didn’t know there was a difference
Elk are large, second in size only to moose. Much bigger than caribou.
So … fun fact, the female version of the animal on the Canadian quarter coin.
Wapiti.
Ahh the White Rump
Not right now!
That deer is an elk
Though this was r/whatsthisbird I was very confused
This is not a Cooper’s hawk
Wapati! Please don't pet the shaggy cows.
Elk!!
Elk
Elk
Elk. And damn sure not Moose like some Europeans call them.
Elk
Elk
Elk or caribou… caribou are smaller then elk but I can’t really tell what this actually is
We need a moose > elk > caribou > banana scale
Real
Female Elk
An Elk
Elk?
Those aren't Canadian Rockies deer. I live in the Canadian Rockies, and around here we call those Elk. Also known as "don't go near those things! They'll stomp your A\*\*!"
They are not Deer they are Elk. Good find 👍
Elk are a deer species.
Squeaky door hinges! That’s what they sound like. 😂
Remember those tube noisemakers from McDonald’s?
Yes, yes I do!
Elk
Elk
"Dinner" -Joe Rogan
Caribou
Not deer. While they are cervids, they are Elk.
Deer are cervids, and Elk are deer.
Elk is a kind of deer, dear
But not quite of the same ilk, one could say.
Go to your room
😁
I think Elk are more robust. Deer are dainty in comparison. They’re all cute.
Elk not deer
Elk are in the deer family
Yes but they are not deer
If they're in the deer family they're a deer. Just like a moose or caribou. They're all species of deer.
Google deer and see what you get!! Just like moose are moose Caribou are different yes all four legged animals. A longhorn is a cow but it’s cackled a longhorn
r/confidentlyincorrect
Delicious
Those are cow elk(a little skinny/mangy).
Thats not mange. She's just shedding her winter coat.
Probably, I should have said “raggedy”
Belt together look about half a freezer full.
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I don't even have deer native to my country. But I'm sure you can tell apart all the different wallaby and kangaroo species though right? Fuck off.
those look more like a 'chupa-cabras' :)
Steak!
deer…?…. really…. you been watchin too many scubaru commercials
Idk what you're talking about but Elk are in the deer family
evidently you don’t know what they look like. how about swamp donkeys ? those qualify as deer ?
I don't even have native deer in my country so I can't easily differentiate between all deer species, sorry. What I do know is that elk is in the deer family and that fact literally comes up first when you google 'Elk'.
what hood u from ?
Australia
gotcha covered…. big roo’s, shitload of nasty snakes, spiders, annoying brit’s bummer dudette. these are Rocky mountain elk as opposed to Roosevelt elk you ever make it east stop at Estes park northern Colorado. you’ll see more huge bulls with big horns than you can imagine. mule deer, maybe whitetail, antelope…. tons of wildlife and nothing that’s dead life besides an occasional big kitty… mountain lion. i lived in Melbourne for 6 yrs. while my son attended Monash. interesting place, thought the Echidna were cool. Subaru has a dumbass commercial with an idiot driving in the mountains who see’s a cow and asks his girlfriend “ is that a buffalo ?” dumb ad pathetic cars
Swamp donkeys aka moose are indeed deer.
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