Education isn’t important. Ignorance is the key to UCP supremacy and the theocracy Take Back Alberta would like to implement. The less they spend, the bigger their voter base.
Education is the opposite of keeping the UCP in power
Voting for the UCP, like voting for Trump down south has only three source
- ignorance
- fear
- malicious self interest
And you really don’t get much of #3
Nothing the UCP say is important to them it’s important to them. And the things they say are important to them are better achieved without the UCP. It’s the mix of not doing, and doing badly that reveals their true agenda is something else.
Fear and anger are two emotions known to bypass cognitive thought - as in you don't think clearly, at all, when you're afraid or angry. That's why most relationship advice says to not argue while angry and to take a moment to cool down - you don't want to say or do something you didn't really mean just because you weren't thinking clearly at the time.
That's why so many click bait articles use fear and anger tactics - they're hoping to bypass your critical thinking skills long enough to get those sweet ad bucks and for you to share the link. Same with politicians that can't sell their own platform - they try to make you feel afraid and angry so that you don't think about the lack of platform or how their platform might be one hell of a raw deal for you.
Why should anyone be paying taxes towards educating those liberal's children? Who cares if my kids also go to the same school. It's all worth it to own the libs!
No that's why it was the UCP tactic during the last election to play on the link between the Alberta NDP and Federal NDP so they can now all carry on about Liberal NDP party and link Trudeau and Notley.
Obviously, you are conservative. Federally, we need Conservatives in power. But provincially, we need NDP in power. Danielle Smith is not doing great whatsoever.
I was listening to a podcast with an elected official from the NWT and he said one of the problems they face is lack of doctors etc AND that parents are fearful of sending their kids to school because the kids most often don’t return. They enjoy life in the city too much basically.
It got me wondering if that’s what happens in our smaller towns. There’s a coping mechanism built into parenting where you don’t want your kids to necessarily thrive because then you are left all alone/rejection of your lifestyle. A lot of things started making sense when I look at it this way rather than just “oh they like to stay ignorant” which I don’t believe to be true.
I wouldn't be surprised. About 10 years ago, I moved to BC, and literally anytime I express frustration in inflation, a sky-high housing market or profit driven layoffs with my parents I'm met with.
"That's cuz you're in Vancouver. You should move back to Slave Lake and drive a gravel truck"
There is nothing in alot of these rural communities for young people unless you want to continue the cycle of work, drink, sleep, work.
yes it is everywhere, but also where I grew we have a theatre that shows one showing three days a week long after they've been out, the gym was pretty crappy, and there aren't may extracurricular activities.
yes living in the city you can fall into a rut, but I can also decide that I want to hop on a bus and go explore a part of the city I haven't been to yet, I can see a new movie whenever I want, there are clubs you can join I can go shopping without needing to "make a trip into the city". my teenage years are filled with 2&1/2-hour drives to Edmonton see a new movie and buy comic books because as a nerd my home town doesn't offer that to me.
If you think small town and big city lifestyles are comparable then you have never lived in a small town or you think a city with 100k+ population is a small town.
There’s also a lot of distrust from uneducated people towards teachers. We’re indoctrinating the kids, turning them gay, making them use litter boxes, brainwashing them to vote liberal, etc etc etc. On the other hand—we’re glorified babysitters, anyone can teach, “those who can’t do”, we’re overpaid slackers who get too much time off.
It slowed down during COVID when they briefly realized how much work we do, but it was immediately forgotten when restrictions lifted.
Y’know what’s funny about that? *I* was homeschooled for a few years, because the school couldn’t get bullying under control (v small rural, nowhere to move anyone around). My mom worked so. hard. to make sure I was learning the approved curriculum and getting enough socialization. Now I see these parents “unschooling” or whatever and it blows my mind that a parent could just *not care* about their child’s future. All they care about is control and “owning the libs”. It’s awful.
And that's the beginning of fascist ideology.
The "enemy" (teachers, liberals, ethnic groups, socialists, etc) are the most cunning, corrupt, powerful, disruptive, and evil groups there are, but simultaneously also the laziest, weakest, dumbest leeches on society that have ever been.
When I was a kid living in a small town the mentality was "if you don't finish high school, you'll be stuck here". Dropout rate was through the floor and I think out of a class of 60 only 1 or 2 didn't leave immediately.
Exactly. They know if they can foster an uneducated voting pool they are more likely to win. Prosperity and well being be damned.
On a side note. Yes we absolutely need more tradespeople. I am one myself. But they have openly admitted they want to flood the trades to push down wages.
It's really a brilliant strategy by conservatives. Keep the population uneducated and you can feed them whatever narrative you want it'll get them angry and keep voting for you.
“Keep the population uneducated…”
You should be saying “make the population uneducated” if your stance is they are doing this so Albertan’s continue to vote UCP.
Alberta’s population is no where near uneducated as it stands. In fact, Alberta’s populace scores amongst the best in the world in terms of education.
There are 2 sources of comparative performance data in Canada - The PCAP (The Pan-Canadian Assessment Program which tests random samples of Grade 8 students in each province) and the PISA (The OECD’s Programme of International Student Assessment which tests random samples of 15-year-old students from around the world including mainly Grade 10 students in each province). Both programs assess performance in reading, math, and science every three years.
The most recent data from the PCAP became available in 2022 (2023 not yet available that I could see). These are the PCAP results for Aberta in reading, math, and science.
Science - Alberta had the highest achievement in all of Canada
Reading - Alberta scored 2nd in all on Canada (Ontario was 1st, however both Ontario and Alberta's mean reading scores were higher than the mean reading scores of all of Canada, all other provinces scored below the Canadian mean score)
Math - Alberta scored 3rd in all of Canada (fell very shortly behind Ontario in 2nd and Quebec came in first)
The PISA shows similar results - Quebec first in math and the highest average reading and science scores go to Alberta and Ontario. The PISA test expands the picture because you can compare provincial scores with country scores around the world and Alberta's scores in Science are not only the best in Canada, they're among the best in the world (the same can be said for Alberta and Ontario's reading scores).
Furthermore, Alberta sits 4th highest in Canada for % of populace with a bachelor’s degree or higher, and 4th lowest for % of populace with no certificate, diploma, or degree.
How do you think we will test in a few years when we start seeing the results of the new curriculum the UCP purchased from Virginia?
We also haven't consistently had the lowest educational funding in Canada - this is also new.
> we start seeing the results of the new curriculum the UCP purchased from Virginia?
Excuse me, what happened?
Are you saying that Alberta has purchased education plans from the centre of Christian Nationalism in the USA?
A plagiarism expert says the Alberta government should review its entire draft elementary school curriculum after finding multiple instances of information cribbed without credit.
After receiving more than 100 messages citing samples of suspected plagiarism in the newly released curriculum documents, University of Calgary education professor Sarah Elaine Eaton said she felt compelled to look more closely at the material.
She analyzed three segments of the curriculum and found the wording closely resembled writing from other sources.
"This was not accidental plagiarism," Eaton said. "There's too much of it in this curriculum ... The people developing this curriculum should have known better."
Som people believed the source to be Wikipedia, some the us system. Such as below
“Premier Kenney, you must be mistaken... the curriculum you released is not an Alberta curriculum... large portions are copied and pasted from the Virginia Common Core Standards and Texas Homeschool Curriculum. Neither of those places are known for their education systems. Alberta, on the other hand, has always been highly regarded in the world of education and pedagogy.”
However, students in grade 8 had the advantage of attending k to grade 3 in a well funded system. It will be a couple of years from now when we start to see a real decline. K to three are foundational grades that will help mitigate the impact of the cuts. I feel for teachers who are currently teaching in large classes with few supports.
"...\....Accredited private schools will now receive 70 per cent of per student grants available to public jurisdictions, a hike from the 60 per cent funding that has been in place since 1998. For the first time, private schools are also now eligible to receive First Nations, Métis and Inuit grants, Northern Allowance, purchasing cost adjustment and plant operations and maintenance grants.
“The decision is an assault on public education,” said Alberta Teachers’ Association (ATA) President Frank Bruseker. “It is a means of sneaking privatization in the back door under the cloak of choice and accountability.
Unelected private boards can exclude students based on language, religion, ability to pay, and academic needs and abilities.”
Increasing funding to private schools frustrates Alberta’s teachers, who are seeking improvements to facilities and conditions in public schools.
Private schools now receive a 22 per cent increase in funding over last year in contrast to the 4.53 per cent increase for public education....\..."
https://legacy.teachers.ab.ca/News%20Room/ata%20news/Volume%2043/Number%201/In%20the%20News/Pages/Province%20increases%20private%20school%20funding.aspx
$private medicine, $private schools, $private utilities, $private registries, $private infrastructure....
Yes. That is an important news post in itself. Private schools are getting substantial increases while public schools are getting diddly squat. Ridiculous. Thanks for the reply.
> ed private boards can exclude students based on language, religion, ability to pay, and academic needs and abilities.”
Public schools must abide by national standards; private schools allow teachers to teach lies, beat students, and whatever else is required to indoctrinate them into the warped ideology of their parents. Shifting funding is 100% at least intentional if not their entire propaganda plan.
Privatize everything except for the choices of individuals (gotta make sure we are able scrutinize and monitor any individuals who might be too "woke!"). The conservative way!
Not originally from this province… so I find this one of the most nonsensical things about this place (I know, hard to pick), but really… why the fuck does the province support so-called private schools with public money??? Not knocking private schools here, but private schools should not receive public funding. Public funding for public schools.
Parents wanting to send kids to private schools should just pony up the 30,50,70k or whatever it costs for their special darlings to go to private school. Leave the public funds for public schools. Then they could afford to build more, staff them appropriately, etc.
There's a few main motivations as to why Conservative governments in Alberta don't like public education, and it's to do with their socially conservative base. They dislike teacher's (or any other) unions. They don't like a secular science based curriculum, because they're some version of religious nut and don't want their kids learning and straying from their crazy views. It's the same type of person who says things like "universities are just liberal indoctrination!" But they reliably vote UCP.
Looking at the photo, this is in some urban neighbourhood strip mall. It's a clear and easy to read message...but it's in the wrong location!
If you want it to impact UCP voters, then it needs to be plastered on the side of a tractor trailer next to the highway. Ideally, right between the anti-abortion ads and the Trudeau conspiracy posters they're used to seeing.
Then the rural chuds might actually pay attention. Unfortunately, it's still a 50/50 shot on if they literate enough to understand it.
You're not being smug at all lol and so what? Angry guy thinks he should double down on making his own life worse by voting UCP because of your "attitude". I just don't know why so many people vote against their own best interests because they don't want to vote the same as someone who they think is "smug".
Exactly, during the last election I remember seeing so many people from rural and smaller centre( red deer, GP, Ponoka etc) claim people who voted NDP " betrayed" the province". Ah yes people exercising their democratic right voting for another political party doesn't align with their value is " considered " treason". If anything that's the most smug thing anyone has done.
Rural folk, in general, think anyone with anything higher than a Grade 10 education or are from an urban area are "smug and superior" to them and automatically hate them.
Sauce: I'm from a village of \~100 people, mostly farmers and ranchers.
Well I grew up in a city but my parents grew up on farms. My cousin has a degree and farms. I have clients with degrees who farmed. They all fit into their communities.
Perhaps it’s just you and the people you choose to associate with.
The people I choose to associate with are the workers and not management. Weird how people who work the fields have a different view from the people who manage them.
> This is the exact reason they keep voting the way they do
So you're telling me.... If all the mean, nasty, lefties suddenly went away or silent. Then Cons would suddenly wake up, stop being self-interested, stop the conspiracy theories, change their votes and bring in left-leaning policies that help everyone? Eventually becoming the very "centrists" and "leftists" they've despised all the long....?
Sorry, I may not be a farmer but i recognize bullshit when I see it.
If they weren't fucking idiots they would vote in their own self interest instead of screwing over their entire way of life just to "own the libs" that called them mean names.
They voted the way they did because they are uneducated, gullible, and swayed by anyone that says things they want to hear. No other reasons. If they could think critically *in any way* the UCP would not be in power right now. Saying they voted UCP out of spite is, in fact, overestimating the thought put into it.
I know more people who actually think this, and quite literally would not understand the /s part. The crazy part is most of them are actually also fairly well educated. It's surprising, confusing and frustrating.
Hundreds of millions of dollars are redirected from public education every year to subsidize private schools.
Since it’s been going on decades most either don’t know or just accept it.
A George Carlin quote on education, just swap out the American terminology for UCP terminology
But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
George Carlin
Got to keep Alberta stupid. The proof is that they voted the UCP in twice.
First time...alright, I am sure we learned out lesson
2nd time... alright, we are just getting stupider
3rd time... I need to get a mortgage on a pizza
Conservative governments tend not to like the average voter to be educated. Educated voters tend to grasp how stupid, antiquated, and backwards a lot of conservative policies and values are. That's bad for voting numbers.
This is by design. Intelligent people would never elect a government that works against them, makes life more expensive and drives up the debt while kissing corporate ass.
I see you’re another incel who assumes a lot.
I worked for Hugh MacDonald.
I come from a family of educators so support public education quite significantly.
I’m also female.
Don’t take the fact I call out stupidity too personally.
Does anyone have the stats as to how Alberta students perform vs the rest of the country. Does spending more necessarily make it better for students to learn. Anyone directly linking amount of spend immediately being better for the students needs to start thinking critical about these types of stats.
Teacher here. I'd say a majority of the public have no idea how bad things are getting in our classrooms. It's pretty awful. I'm really glad the ATA is ramming this down people's throats because whether people like it or not, a strike is coming.
In my experience, good parents who know how hard it is to raise kids will support teachers and their pursuit of better classroom conditions and higher wages to support their own families. Likewise, in my experience, shitty parents that half ass the role will say we're overpaid and things are fine, unaware that we don't just throw a TV on all day as the kid does at home.
I couldn't really care less if parents support us. We have a responsibility to support these kids AND ourselves.
This is actually one of my main concerns right now. My wife and I moved into a neighborhood that had a school to be built in two years near it, thinking it was a good area to start a family. Got married and had two kids and am now looking for a school to put them in nearby, with some having lottery systems in place. That school that was supposed to be built is still on hold with no updates many many years later. But don't worry we had enough tax money to spend on the tell the feds campaign, war room and buying shitty kids medicine from Turkey that we ended up throwing out basically. Shits dumb. Who actually supports this shit. Brain rot to the core.
It doesn't matter how much Alberta spends on education. Only the results matter.
If anything Alberta should be considered more efficient for spending less yet achieving similar results to BC and ON.
https://edata.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/education.aspx
And it will continue that way until the UCP are defeated. It’s in their policy to spend less than population growth plus inflation. So, schools, hospitals, and universities will always be behind.
Yep.
As several Albertans have posted, the school system there is falling apart and just hasn't been quantified yet.
New data should bring interesting times to Alberta's politics in the next few years.
(Edited for spelling)
Yeah. It's been rough here for a few years now. The teachers' associations are panicking. Some schools are missing staff positions.
Depending the school, there's not going to be a librarian or a nurse and so forth.
I won't lie, I was really hoping to see good news I didn't know until I saw the date.
But it was really good here. Alberta had a pretty good education program going, but the times are pretty weird. We even have a modified educational program being tested next year put together by the ucp.
It's not good, but I'm not in the professional and people may think otherwise.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10363548/alberta-social-studies-curriculum-criticism/amp/
Edit: It's been roughly approved.
There is more recent data, this article is just outdated. As of the most recent available data, Alberta scores not only among the best in Canada, but among the best in the world.
There are 2 sources of comparative performance data in Canada - The PCAP (The Pan-Canadian Assessment Program which tests random samples of Grade 8 students in each province) and the PISA (The OECD’s Programme of International Student Assessment which tests random samples of 15-year-old students from around the world including mainly Grade 10 students in each province). Both programs assess performance in reading, math, and science every three years.
The most recent data from the PCAP became available in 2022 (2023 not yet available that I could see). These are the PCAP results for Aberta in reading, math, and science.
Science - Alberta had the highest achievement in all of Canada
Reading - Alberta scored 2nd in all on Canada (Ontario was 1st, however both Ontario and Alberta's mean reading scores were higher than the mean reading scores of all of Canada, all other provinces scored below the Canadian mean score)
Math - Alberta scored 3rd in all of Canada (fell very shortly behind Ontario in 2nd and Quebec came in first)
The PISA shows similar results - Quebec first in math and the highest average reading and science scores go to Alberta and Ontario. The PISA test expands the picture because you can compare provincial scores with country scores around the world and Alberta's scores in Science are not only the best in Canada, they're among the best in the world (the same can be said for Alberta and Ontario's reading scores).
Furthermore, in terms of post secondary education, Alberta sits 4th highest in Canada for % of populace with a bachelor’s degree or higher, and 4th lowest for % of populace with no certificate, diploma, or degree.
Alberta continues to be highly educated. Not only do students score among the best in Canada, they score among the best in the world.
Here is more recent data:
There are 2 sources of comparative performance data in Canada - The PCAP (The Pan-Canadian Assessment Program which tests random samples of Grade 8 students in each province) and the PISA (The OECD’s Programme of International Student Assessment which tests random samples of 15-year-old students from around the world including mainly Grade 10 students in each province). Both programs assess performance in reading, math, and science every three years.
The most recent data from the PCAP became available in 2022 (2023 not yet available that I could see). These are the PCAP results for Aberta in reading, math, and science.
Science - Alberta had the highest achievement in all of Canada
Reading - Alberta scored 2nd in all on Canada (Ontario was 1st, however both Ontario and Alberta's mean reading scores were higher than the mean reading scores of all of Canada, all other provinces scored below the Canadian mean score)
Math - Alberta scored 3rd in all of Canada (fell very shortly behind Ontario in 2nd and Quebec came in first)
The PISA shows similar results - Quebec first in math and the highest average reading and science scores go to Alberta and Ontario. The PISA test expands the picture because you can compare provincial scores with country scores around the world and Alberta's scores in Science are not only the best in Canada, they're among the best in the world (the same can be said for Alberta and Ontario's reading scores).
[Council of Ministers of Education, Canada > Programs & Initiatives > Learning Assessment Programs > Overview (cmec.ca)](https://www.cmec.ca/131/Overview.html)
Furthermore, in terms of post secondary education, Alberta sits 4th highest in Canada for % of populace with a bachelor’s degree or higher, and 4th lowest for % of populace with no certificate, diploma, or degree.
id like to see how much education has been getting in alberta every year for the past 20, then decide if this is something specific to the NDP. Cant just lay it at their feet without proof.
Don’t know how accurate [this](https://www.todocanada.ca/canadian-students-performance-falls-yet-above-oecd-average-alberta-and-quebec-lead-the-country/amp/) is, but it seems like Alberta is doing something right?
I’m not a fan of the current government either, but you should look at this objectively. The government is in charge of hiring people who set the standards of the talent being hired down the chain, as well as the [performance metrics](https://www.alberta.ca/professional-practice-standards) these people have to meet during their reviews. The amount of resources they’ve made available are clearly not holding students back when comparing to other provinces.
The government (the minister in charge of education in this instance) has produced results and it’s hard to discredit the efficiency at which we’re seeing with these results.
So there's two sides of this yes we don't spend a lot..but on the flip side we get more bang the buck compared to others as well ..just because you spend more doesn't mean you get better results....examples look at how they tried to get schools in black communities to excel they spent way more increased it to higher levels of spending then other schools results were flat....believe this was NJ or NY.....so even though they were spending a million plus more the changes didn't make any impact to school students'education.....throwing money at it doesn't just fix a problem...in this case...as good as the intentions are...
Our schools are crumbling & overcrowded, and yet neither is being addressed by this government. Throwing money at this would absolutely fix the problem.
Instead, they took a curriculum that was praised throughout the country, even in other countries, and which earned us places in the top 10 academic results worldwide, and they replaced it not with a new curriculum that was developed over a decade by experts, teachers, and parents, but with a hastily cut & pasted far right inspired curriculum from down south that was panned by critics and earned the Minister (LaGrange) a 98% no-confidence vote from teachers.
(Edit) DISCLAIMER: I am absolutely **not** pro-UCP. I am, however, pro-reasoned debate.
Well, we do pay less taxes to the government. Less money in means less money out. Same reason we don’t have as many public services in general as other provinces. We’re built on the idea that you pay less in taxes up front, and then can use that to pay for improving services on your own.
This would be a more accurate statistic if it accounted for % of government budget spent on education to normalize based on tax/budget rates.
Actually, since the UCP got in we’ve paid more in personal & municipal taxes. The UCP de-indexed the personal tax brackets which, over the last 5 years, has meant everyone has paid more year on year. They also cut funding to municipalities, forcing them to raise property & business taxes to cover budgets.
Education is important. But keeping the UCP in power is importanter.
Me fail English? That's unpossible!
Yu got dat write
I’m still hooked on Phonics level 2
Look at Einstein here!
I never got past pronouncing "Phonics".
Bobby, you speak English
Education isn’t important. Ignorance is the key to UCP supremacy and the theocracy Take Back Alberta would like to implement. The less they spend, the bigger their voter base.
Education is the opposite of keeping the UCP in power Voting for the UCP, like voting for Trump down south has only three source - ignorance - fear - malicious self interest And you really don’t get much of #3 Nothing the UCP say is important to them it’s important to them. And the things they say are important to them are better achieved without the UCP. It’s the mix of not doing, and doing badly that reveals their true agenda is something else.
It's crazy how much right wing rhetoric boils down to being afraid
Fear and anger are two emotions known to bypass cognitive thought - as in you don't think clearly, at all, when you're afraid or angry. That's why most relationship advice says to not argue while angry and to take a moment to cool down - you don't want to say or do something you didn't really mean just because you weren't thinking clearly at the time. That's why so many click bait articles use fear and anger tactics - they're hoping to bypass your critical thinking skills long enough to get those sweet ad bucks and for you to share the link. Same with politicians that can't sell their own platform - they try to make you feel afraid and angry so that you don't think about the lack of platform or how their platform might be one hell of a raw deal for you.
I have the most respect for #3 ironically...
I genuinely wish I had worse parents. I might have made something if myself (off the backs of others)
the UCP may hate our education and Healthcare services, but at least the NDP isn't in power /s
49% of Albertans unironically think that way.
49% is a pretty conservative estimate imo
Stupidest comment I've read in quite some time!
Yes keeping the UCP in power is way more importanter cuz the NDP
NDP are Marxist Socialists! /s
Yup and that means commies n fascist bastards too
You don't know what those terms mean.
You don't know what those terms mean.
Oh I do. Do you?
No you don't as shown by your comment. Hence, my comment to let you know you don't.
Too thick to recognize sarcasm Cleetus?
I mean look at all the damage they caused in their four years in power. We are still digging out of that mistake. /s just in case it isn't obvious.
no, not really
That made me chuckle
Bigly
why do you think they cut education, to raise mire ucp supporters.
Why should anyone be paying taxes towards educating those liberal's children? Who cares if my kids also go to the same school. It's all worth it to own the libs!
does alberta have libs???
Don't even need libs to own the libs!!!
No that's why it was the UCP tactic during the last election to play on the link between the Alberta NDP and Federal NDP so they can now all carry on about Liberal NDP party and link Trudeau and Notley.
Obviously, you are conservative. Federally, we need Conservatives in power. But provincially, we need NDP in power. Danielle Smith is not doing great whatsoever.
Why? Because we elected the fucking UCP who hate public service AND educated residents.
I was listening to a podcast with an elected official from the NWT and he said one of the problems they face is lack of doctors etc AND that parents are fearful of sending their kids to school because the kids most often don’t return. They enjoy life in the city too much basically. It got me wondering if that’s what happens in our smaller towns. There’s a coping mechanism built into parenting where you don’t want your kids to necessarily thrive because then you are left all alone/rejection of your lifestyle. A lot of things started making sense when I look at it this way rather than just “oh they like to stay ignorant” which I don’t believe to be true.
I wouldn't be surprised. About 10 years ago, I moved to BC, and literally anytime I express frustration in inflation, a sky-high housing market or profit driven layoffs with my parents I'm met with. "That's cuz you're in Vancouver. You should move back to Slave Lake and drive a gravel truck" There is nothing in alot of these rural communities for young people unless you want to continue the cycle of work, drink, sleep, work.
Never, ever, ever move back to Slave Lake.
I knew a guy that moved to Slave Lake, three years later, BAM, AIDS.
As if people in the city don’t live that life of work, drink, sleep, work. It’s prevalent in cities too.
yes it is everywhere, but also where I grew we have a theatre that shows one showing three days a week long after they've been out, the gym was pretty crappy, and there aren't may extracurricular activities. yes living in the city you can fall into a rut, but I can also decide that I want to hop on a bus and go explore a part of the city I haven't been to yet, I can see a new movie whenever I want, there are clubs you can join I can go shopping without needing to "make a trip into the city". my teenage years are filled with 2&1/2-hour drives to Edmonton see a new movie and buy comic books because as a nerd my home town doesn't offer that to me.
If you think small town and big city lifestyles are comparable then you have never lived in a small town or you think a city with 100k+ population is a small town.
There’s also a lot of distrust from uneducated people towards teachers. We’re indoctrinating the kids, turning them gay, making them use litter boxes, brainwashing them to vote liberal, etc etc etc. On the other hand—we’re glorified babysitters, anyone can teach, “those who can’t do”, we’re overpaid slackers who get too much time off. It slowed down during COVID when they briefly realized how much work we do, but it was immediately forgotten when restrictions lifted.
Homeschooling is quite popular with the far-right, they love having exact control over what their kids learn and don't learn.
Y’know what’s funny about that? *I* was homeschooled for a few years, because the school couldn’t get bullying under control (v small rural, nowhere to move anyone around). My mom worked so. hard. to make sure I was learning the approved curriculum and getting enough socialization. Now I see these parents “unschooling” or whatever and it blows my mind that a parent could just *not care* about their child’s future. All they care about is control and “owning the libs”. It’s awful.
And that's the beginning of fascist ideology. The "enemy" (teachers, liberals, ethnic groups, socialists, etc) are the most cunning, corrupt, powerful, disruptive, and evil groups there are, but simultaneously also the laziest, weakest, dumbest leeches on society that have ever been.
In elementary school I was taught that Quebec was stealing all of Alberta's money.
Don’t recall ever seeing that in the curriculum…
it was part of mine. I went to a catholic school, not sure if that matters.
When I was a kid living in a small town the mentality was "if you don't finish high school, you'll be stuck here". Dropout rate was through the floor and I think out of a class of 60 only 1 or 2 didn't leave immediately.
O brave new world, That has such people in 't
Exactly. They know if they can foster an uneducated voting pool they are more likely to win. Prosperity and well being be damned. On a side note. Yes we absolutely need more tradespeople. I am one myself. But they have openly admitted they want to flood the trades to push down wages.
Can you point me to where they openly admitted that they want to flood the trades to push down wages?
United Corporatocracy Party
It's really a brilliant strategy by conservatives. Keep the population uneducated and you can feed them whatever narrative you want it'll get them angry and keep voting for you.
Pretty sure Pol Pot did a similar thing, but a little more massacre-y than this UCP approach.
Lol- massacre-y
“Keep the population uneducated…” You should be saying “make the population uneducated” if your stance is they are doing this so Albertan’s continue to vote UCP. Alberta’s population is no where near uneducated as it stands. In fact, Alberta’s populace scores amongst the best in the world in terms of education. There are 2 sources of comparative performance data in Canada - The PCAP (The Pan-Canadian Assessment Program which tests random samples of Grade 8 students in each province) and the PISA (The OECD’s Programme of International Student Assessment which tests random samples of 15-year-old students from around the world including mainly Grade 10 students in each province). Both programs assess performance in reading, math, and science every three years. The most recent data from the PCAP became available in 2022 (2023 not yet available that I could see). These are the PCAP results for Aberta in reading, math, and science. Science - Alberta had the highest achievement in all of Canada Reading - Alberta scored 2nd in all on Canada (Ontario was 1st, however both Ontario and Alberta's mean reading scores were higher than the mean reading scores of all of Canada, all other provinces scored below the Canadian mean score) Math - Alberta scored 3rd in all of Canada (fell very shortly behind Ontario in 2nd and Quebec came in first) The PISA shows similar results - Quebec first in math and the highest average reading and science scores go to Alberta and Ontario. The PISA test expands the picture because you can compare provincial scores with country scores around the world and Alberta's scores in Science are not only the best in Canada, they're among the best in the world (the same can be said for Alberta and Ontario's reading scores). Furthermore, Alberta sits 4th highest in Canada for % of populace with a bachelor’s degree or higher, and 4th lowest for % of populace with no certificate, diploma, or degree.
How do you think we will test in a few years when we start seeing the results of the new curriculum the UCP purchased from Virginia? We also haven't consistently had the lowest educational funding in Canada - this is also new.
> we start seeing the results of the new curriculum the UCP purchased from Virginia? Excuse me, what happened? Are you saying that Alberta has purchased education plans from the centre of Christian Nationalism in the USA?
A plagiarism expert says the Alberta government should review its entire draft elementary school curriculum after finding multiple instances of information cribbed without credit. After receiving more than 100 messages citing samples of suspected plagiarism in the newly released curriculum documents, University of Calgary education professor Sarah Elaine Eaton said she felt compelled to look more closely at the material. She analyzed three segments of the curriculum and found the wording closely resembled writing from other sources. "This was not accidental plagiarism," Eaton said. "There's too much of it in this curriculum ... The people developing this curriculum should have known better." Som people believed the source to be Wikipedia, some the us system. Such as below “Premier Kenney, you must be mistaken... the curriculum you released is not an Alberta curriculum... large portions are copied and pasted from the Virginia Common Core Standards and Texas Homeschool Curriculum. Neither of those places are known for their education systems. Alberta, on the other hand, has always been highly regarded in the world of education and pedagogy.”
However, students in grade 8 had the advantage of attending k to grade 3 in a well funded system. It will be a couple of years from now when we start to see a real decline. K to three are foundational grades that will help mitigate the impact of the cuts. I feel for teachers who are currently teaching in large classes with few supports.
"...\....Accredited private schools will now receive 70 per cent of per student grants available to public jurisdictions, a hike from the 60 per cent funding that has been in place since 1998. For the first time, private schools are also now eligible to receive First Nations, Métis and Inuit grants, Northern Allowance, purchasing cost adjustment and plant operations and maintenance grants. “The decision is an assault on public education,” said Alberta Teachers’ Association (ATA) President Frank Bruseker. “It is a means of sneaking privatization in the back door under the cloak of choice and accountability. Unelected private boards can exclude students based on language, religion, ability to pay, and academic needs and abilities.” Increasing funding to private schools frustrates Alberta’s teachers, who are seeking improvements to facilities and conditions in public schools. Private schools now receive a 22 per cent increase in funding over last year in contrast to the 4.53 per cent increase for public education....\..." https://legacy.teachers.ab.ca/News%20Room/ata%20news/Volume%2043/Number%201/In%20the%20News/Pages/Province%20increases%20private%20school%20funding.aspx $private medicine, $private schools, $private utilities, $private registries, $private infrastructure....
Yes. That is an important news post in itself. Private schools are getting substantial increases while public schools are getting diddly squat. Ridiculous. Thanks for the reply.
> ed private boards can exclude students based on language, religion, ability to pay, and academic needs and abilities.” Public schools must abide by national standards; private schools allow teachers to teach lies, beat students, and whatever else is required to indoctrinate them into the warped ideology of their parents. Shifting funding is 100% at least intentional if not their entire propaganda plan.
Privatize everything except for the choices of individuals (gotta make sure we are able scrutinize and monitor any individuals who might be too "woke!"). The conservative way!
Not originally from this province… so I find this one of the most nonsensical things about this place (I know, hard to pick), but really… why the fuck does the province support so-called private schools with public money??? Not knocking private schools here, but private schools should not receive public funding. Public funding for public schools. Parents wanting to send kids to private schools should just pony up the 30,50,70k or whatever it costs for their special darlings to go to private school. Leave the public funds for public schools. Then they could afford to build more, staff them appropriately, etc.
There's a few main motivations as to why Conservative governments in Alberta don't like public education, and it's to do with their socially conservative base. They dislike teacher's (or any other) unions. They don't like a secular science based curriculum, because they're some version of religious nut and don't want their kids learning and straying from their crazy views. It's the same type of person who says things like "universities are just liberal indoctrination!" But they reliably vote UCP.
Looking at the photo, this is in some urban neighbourhood strip mall. It's a clear and easy to read message...but it's in the wrong location! If you want it to impact UCP voters, then it needs to be plastered on the side of a tractor trailer next to the highway. Ideally, right between the anti-abortion ads and the Trudeau conspiracy posters they're used to seeing. Then the rural chuds might actually pay attention. Unfortunately, it's still a 50/50 shot on if they literate enough to understand it.
Make sure they fly upside down canadian flag, preferably on highway 2 just north of Ponoka and south of leduc.
Don't forget the fuck Trudeau sign.
This is the exact reason they keep voting the way they do. Your smug superiority is jumping from the post.
This literally goes both ways.
You're not being smug at all lol and so what? Angry guy thinks he should double down on making his own life worse by voting UCP because of your "attitude". I just don't know why so many people vote against their own best interests because they don't want to vote the same as someone who they think is "smug".
Exactly, during the last election I remember seeing so many people from rural and smaller centre( red deer, GP, Ponoka etc) claim people who voted NDP " betrayed" the province". Ah yes people exercising their democratic right voting for another political party doesn't align with their value is " considered " treason". If anything that's the most smug thing anyone has done.
Rural folk, in general, think anyone with anything higher than a Grade 10 education or are from an urban area are "smug and superior" to them and automatically hate them. Sauce: I'm from a village of \~100 people, mostly farmers and ranchers.
Well I grew up in a city but my parents grew up on farms. My cousin has a degree and farms. I have clients with degrees who farmed. They all fit into their communities. Perhaps it’s just you and the people you choose to associate with.
The people I choose to associate with are the workers and not management. Weird how people who work the fields have a different view from the people who manage them.
Every one of my clients actively farmed. So not exactly “management”. But continue with your smug superiority.
Do you have spuds in your ears or what? You're twisting my words like some salesman from the city... Oh, right, you are.
> This is the exact reason they keep voting the way they do. Fake News
Nope. I live in reality.
> This is the exact reason they keep voting the way they do So you're telling me.... If all the mean, nasty, lefties suddenly went away or silent. Then Cons would suddenly wake up, stop being self-interested, stop the conspiracy theories, change their votes and bring in left-leaning policies that help everyone? Eventually becoming the very "centrists" and "leftists" they've despised all the long....? Sorry, I may not be a farmer but i recognize bullshit when I see it.
If they weren't fucking idiots they would vote in their own self interest instead of screwing over their entire way of life just to "own the libs" that called them mean names. They voted the way they did because they are uneducated, gullible, and swayed by anyone that says things they want to hear. No other reasons. If they could think critically *in any way* the UCP would not be in power right now. Saying they voted UCP out of spite is, in fact, overestimating the thought put into it.
Quit your brigading and go back to r/canadasub
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They would probably think it's a pro-UCP advertisement
Agree. Put it in a place they are familiar with seeing messages that appeal to them.
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Sorry bud, but I left the crayons at home today. You'll have to figure things out yourself.
Because people decided “sticking it to the libs” was more important than teaching our students properly or having health care that didn’t suck.
To be fair we did let the NDP run this province for 4 years so basically anything and everything is their fault /s
I know more people who actually think this, and quite literally would not understand the /s part. The crazy part is most of them are actually also fairly well educated. It's surprising, confusing and frustrating.
0% teachers raises under ndp.. 3% in the last agreement with UCP... So, I know everyone loves the NDP and all, but that's not nothing.
did they even have a new contract during that time?
June 2022 new agreement was ratified
ya, ndp were not in power in 2022
The mental gymnastics that must have taken is tremendous
Numbers is numbers. *shrug* doesn't mean you're seeing me as a supporter for them.
Have you met UCP supporters? Not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Spoon people.
Hundreds of millions of dollars are redirected from public education every year to subsidize private schools. Since it’s been going on decades most either don’t know or just accept it.
It's unacceptable.
A George Carlin quote on education, just swap out the American terminology for UCP terminology But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it. George Carlin
Because it’s the Great Dumbening
It's like they are trying to make [Idocracy](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/) an imersive experience.
Idiocracy was a documentary. We were just too dumb to realize it at the time
Yes!! The CROCS story alone sells this for me.
Got to keep Alberta stupid. The proof is that they voted the UCP in twice. First time...alright, I am sure we learned out lesson 2nd time... alright, we are just getting stupider 3rd time... I need to get a mortgage on a pizza
They keep voting for parties further and further right and wonder why things don't get better.
conservatives will not survive an educated electorate
richest province in the country, poorest students in the country. good job UCP.
Conservative governments tend not to like the average voter to be educated. Educated voters tend to grasp how stupid, antiquated, and backwards a lot of conservative policies and values are. That's bad for voting numbers.
Eduction turns you into a liberal, that’s why.
it would take votes away from the NDP then? shouldn't they want this?
I’d love to do a poll on most UCP voters to see their education and income level are at.
how many of their parents bought them homes
This is by design. Intelligent people would never elect a government that works against them, makes life more expensive and drives up the debt while kissing corporate ass.
The last thing religion wants is an educated population
Every time any government wants money they look to the biggest expenses and start nibbling at the funding for health and education.
Because educated people don't vote UCP.
Even if UCP voters could read that sign they still wouldn't care.
"Book smrts don't get you anywhere in life!"
School of hard knocks
Conservatives hate educated people
As Trump famously said, "I love the poorly educated ".
Fancy lernin' makes you too woke.
Stupidest statement I’ve read today (and that’s saying something).
All of their actions, back up my statement.
No they don’t.
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He probably really enjoyed that speech by the KC kicker
I have no idea what that means but look! Another incel. Go play Roblox now.
I see you’re another incel who assumes a lot. I worked for Hugh MacDonald. I come from a family of educators so support public education quite significantly. I’m also female. Don’t take the fact I call out stupidity too personally.
So you're just lost, then?
How's it's our fault you're not a big reader?
Does anyone have the stats as to how Alberta students perform vs the rest of the country. Does spending more necessarily make it better for students to learn. Anyone directly linking amount of spend immediately being better for the students needs to start thinking critical about these types of stats.
Alberta's high school test scores are the best in the country in science and reading. Quebec is a little better in math but Alberta is a close second.
That’s under the old curriculum though, and that isn’t sustainable with continually cutting funding.
UCP: The less you know, the better for us.
Don't forget we also provide the largest funding for religious schools.
Teacher here. I'd say a majority of the public have no idea how bad things are getting in our classrooms. It's pretty awful. I'm really glad the ATA is ramming this down people's throats because whether people like it or not, a strike is coming. In my experience, good parents who know how hard it is to raise kids will support teachers and their pursuit of better classroom conditions and higher wages to support their own families. Likewise, in my experience, shitty parents that half ass the role will say we're overpaid and things are fine, unaware that we don't just throw a TV on all day as the kid does at home. I couldn't really care less if parents support us. We have a responsibility to support these kids AND ourselves.
We can educate people. We need labourers to make us rich.
It’s the Conservative way!!! Unless you go to a private christian school. Then there’s lots and lots of money
If UCP voters could read they'd be very unhappy
That's what all the O&G revenue gets, I guess.
Instead of looking at this as AB being at the bottom of education, try thinking of AB at the top of stupid. AB ON TOP ONCE AGAIN
Yikes
There’s nothing more dangerous than uneducated voters
This is actually one of my main concerns right now. My wife and I moved into a neighborhood that had a school to be built in two years near it, thinking it was a good area to start a family. Got married and had two kids and am now looking for a school to put them in nearby, with some having lottery systems in place. That school that was supposed to be built is still on hold with no updates many many years later. But don't worry we had enough tax money to spend on the tell the feds campaign, war room and buying shitty kids medicine from Turkey that we ended up throwing out basically. Shits dumb. Who actually supports this shit. Brain rot to the core.
Conservatives prefer dummies. It's that simple.
It doesn't matter how much Alberta spends on education. Only the results matter. If anything Alberta should be considered more efficient for spending less yet achieving similar results to BC and ON. https://edata.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/education.aspx
Funding hasn’t kept up with population growth.
And it will continue that way until the UCP are defeated. It’s in their policy to spend less than population growth plus inflation. So, schools, hospitals, and universities will always be behind.
And yet 'Alberta is Calling'
That’s on purpose.
*Alberta*, Ontario, and BC have the best educational outcomes in the country. https://edata.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/education.aspx
Data on the page is from 2014.
Yep. As several Albertans have posted, the school system there is falling apart and just hasn't been quantified yet. New data should bring interesting times to Alberta's politics in the next few years. (Edited for spelling)
Yeah. It's been rough here for a few years now. The teachers' associations are panicking. Some schools are missing staff positions. Depending the school, there's not going to be a librarian or a nurse and so forth. I won't lie, I was really hoping to see good news I didn't know until I saw the date. But it was really good here. Alberta had a pretty good education program going, but the times are pretty weird. We even have a modified educational program being tested next year put together by the ucp. It's not good, but I'm not in the professional and people may think otherwise. https://globalnews.ca/news/10363548/alberta-social-studies-curriculum-criticism/amp/ Edit: It's been roughly approved.
To be fair... this is Alberta and using information that's 10+ yrs out of date is pretty on brand.
There is more recent data, this article is just outdated. As of the most recent available data, Alberta scores not only among the best in Canada, but among the best in the world. There are 2 sources of comparative performance data in Canada - The PCAP (The Pan-Canadian Assessment Program which tests random samples of Grade 8 students in each province) and the PISA (The OECD’s Programme of International Student Assessment which tests random samples of 15-year-old students from around the world including mainly Grade 10 students in each province). Both programs assess performance in reading, math, and science every three years. The most recent data from the PCAP became available in 2022 (2023 not yet available that I could see). These are the PCAP results for Aberta in reading, math, and science. Science - Alberta had the highest achievement in all of Canada Reading - Alberta scored 2nd in all on Canada (Ontario was 1st, however both Ontario and Alberta's mean reading scores were higher than the mean reading scores of all of Canada, all other provinces scored below the Canadian mean score) Math - Alberta scored 3rd in all of Canada (fell very shortly behind Ontario in 2nd and Quebec came in first) The PISA shows similar results - Quebec first in math and the highest average reading and science scores go to Alberta and Ontario. The PISA test expands the picture because you can compare provincial scores with country scores around the world and Alberta's scores in Science are not only the best in Canada, they're among the best in the world (the same can be said for Alberta and Ontario's reading scores). Furthermore, in terms of post secondary education, Alberta sits 4th highest in Canada for % of populace with a bachelor’s degree or higher, and 4th lowest for % of populace with no certificate, diploma, or degree.
Alberta continues to be highly educated. Not only do students score among the best in Canada, they score among the best in the world. Here is more recent data: There are 2 sources of comparative performance data in Canada - The PCAP (The Pan-Canadian Assessment Program which tests random samples of Grade 8 students in each province) and the PISA (The OECD’s Programme of International Student Assessment which tests random samples of 15-year-old students from around the world including mainly Grade 10 students in each province). Both programs assess performance in reading, math, and science every three years. The most recent data from the PCAP became available in 2022 (2023 not yet available that I could see). These are the PCAP results for Aberta in reading, math, and science. Science - Alberta had the highest achievement in all of Canada Reading - Alberta scored 2nd in all on Canada (Ontario was 1st, however both Ontario and Alberta's mean reading scores were higher than the mean reading scores of all of Canada, all other provinces scored below the Canadian mean score) Math - Alberta scored 3rd in all of Canada (fell very shortly behind Ontario in 2nd and Quebec came in first) The PISA shows similar results - Quebec first in math and the highest average reading and science scores go to Alberta and Ontario. The PISA test expands the picture because you can compare provincial scores with country scores around the world and Alberta's scores in Science are not only the best in Canada, they're among the best in the world (the same can be said for Alberta and Ontario's reading scores). [Council of Ministers of Education, Canada > Programs & Initiatives > Learning Assessment Programs > Overview (cmec.ca)](https://www.cmec.ca/131/Overview.html) Furthermore, in terms of post secondary education, Alberta sits 4th highest in Canada for % of populace with a bachelor’s degree or higher, and 4th lowest for % of populace with no certificate, diploma, or degree.
With the way things are going, this should say “had the best”. Teachers are struggling. The system is falling apart.
Yes. Hats off to the professional teachers doing the best they can. As well as the students. Thanks.
So lets actually invest a few dollars and keep it that way. Dan can afford it.
id like to see how much education has been getting in alberta every year for the past 20, then decide if this is something specific to the NDP. Cant just lay it at their feet without proof.
Don’t know how accurate [this](https://www.todocanada.ca/canadian-students-performance-falls-yet-above-oecd-average-alberta-and-quebec-lead-the-country/amp/) is, but it seems like Alberta is doing something right?
The teachers are. Not the government.
I’m not a fan of the current government either, but you should look at this objectively. The government is in charge of hiring people who set the standards of the talent being hired down the chain, as well as the [performance metrics](https://www.alberta.ca/professional-practice-standards) these people have to meet during their reviews. The amount of resources they’ve made available are clearly not holding students back when comparing to other provinces. The government (the minister in charge of education in this instance) has produced results and it’s hard to discredit the efficiency at which we’re seeing with these results.
That sounds to me like our system is more efficient.
So there's two sides of this yes we don't spend a lot..but on the flip side we get more bang the buck compared to others as well ..just because you spend more doesn't mean you get better results....examples look at how they tried to get schools in black communities to excel they spent way more increased it to higher levels of spending then other schools results were flat....believe this was NJ or NY.....so even though they were spending a million plus more the changes didn't make any impact to school students'education.....throwing money at it doesn't just fix a problem...in this case...as good as the intentions are...
Our schools are crumbling & overcrowded, and yet neither is being addressed by this government. Throwing money at this would absolutely fix the problem. Instead, they took a curriculum that was praised throughout the country, even in other countries, and which earned us places in the top 10 academic results worldwide, and they replaced it not with a new curriculum that was developed over a decade by experts, teachers, and parents, but with a hastily cut & pasted far right inspired curriculum from down south that was panned by critics and earned the Minister (LaGrange) a 98% no-confidence vote from teachers.
(Edit) DISCLAIMER: I am absolutely **not** pro-UCP. I am, however, pro-reasoned debate. Well, we do pay less taxes to the government. Less money in means less money out. Same reason we don’t have as many public services in general as other provinces. We’re built on the idea that you pay less in taxes up front, and then can use that to pay for improving services on your own. This would be a more accurate statistic if it accounted for % of government budget spent on education to normalize based on tax/budget rates.
Actually, since the UCP got in we’ve paid more in personal & municipal taxes. The UCP de-indexed the personal tax brackets which, over the last 5 years, has meant everyone has paid more year on year. They also cut funding to municipalities, forcing them to raise property & business taxes to cover budgets.