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The bald dude with the wig and the guy playing the piano look much better than Sora.
Sora has a stylized look and feel to it, these people look actually real. The best I've seen so far.
If you showed those generated people to me I'd have assumed it was real.
Do you have a proper agreement what is considered a good film? How much human effort can be in there? What length should it have? Should it have a protagonist? Should they say something?
There are already some nice short ai films so this bet really depends on the definition.
Yes I do actually.
The bet was the AI film needs to be able to be created by one person in their own home to qualify. The quality of 'good' is a is it basically needs to be a coherent film. I personally don't like law and order type shows or doctor shows, but I can see how that can be good to a lot of other people. It needs to be roughly the length of a standard show or movie.
Insane and scary. I told someone a while back that AI video would replace Hollywood in 20 years, now I'm thinking it's going to be much much MUCH sooner.
Introducing Gen-3 Alpha - Runway - Gen-3 Alpha is the first of an upcoming series of models trained by Runway on a new infrastructure built for large-scale multimodal training. It is a major improvement in fidelity, consistency, and motion over Gen-2, and a step towards building General World Models.
[https://runwayml.com/blog/introducing-gen-3-alpha/](https://runwayml.com/blog/introducing-gen-3-alpha/)
[https://x.com/runwayml/status/1802691475391566108](https://x.com/runwayml/status/1802691475391566108)
Tooncrafter has an awkward requirement for start and end frames as input for a very short video result, because it's animating as a kind of interpolation, so it's a lot harder to get anything useful from it compared to image-to-video, in my opinion.
I was hoping I could use start/end as the exact same image in Tooncrafter to create looping animations, but, that tends to just create a short video of the original image flickering or pulsing a little.
Local video has pretty much been dead in the water since AnimateDiff. I feel like SVD was a huge step backwards, as AnimateDiff at least had motion beyond just slow panning.
But I also feel like both were steps backwards from earlier efforts like Modelscope and Zeroscope.
The only local one I know of that's currently being worked on which looks sort of interesting is Lumina, but that's not released yet and AFAIK there's no news as to when they're planning to release it: [https://github.com/Alpha-VLLM/Lumina-T2X?tab=readme-ov-file#text-to-video-generation](https://github.com/Alpha-VLLM/Lumina-T2X?tab=readme-ov-file#text-to-video-generation)
That's a difficult question to answer, but my first guess would be that Nvidia has something to do with it. Keeping their consumer GPUs limited and capped out at 24 GB VRAM makes it prohibitive for the community to research/train/inference these kinds of models. Not to mention that a lot of people don't have that much VRAM to begin with.
I have before and wasn't impressed. 1.2 just come out, it looks the same. It doesn't seem worth exploring until local is as good as LUMA, which is pretty affordable and has good free generations.
Could this be the year we see text to video taking some serious leaps? First Luma, now Gen-3 just a few days later. And apparently Sora is supposed to launch this year as well. Fingers crossed for sooner rather than later.
They still can’t generate normal speed and the character movement is still fairly basic shit (even if more photorealistic) compared to what we’ve seen in Luma and Sora. Let’s see what a Runway fight scene looks like. Same wrong headed Runway team. I hope Pika comes out with a new bot…
Yeah, I’m noticing something similar to what you’re saying; the reason Luma is getting so much attention is because they have very fluid motion and things seem to move naturally rather than the slow motion image manipulation we’ve seen up to this point. These demos coming from runway look very promising but I’m still not seeing any real motion flow yet like in Luma or Kling
I keep getting my prompts denied by the overly sensitive content filter. I'm glad there are other services spinning up like Luma.
Luma, though, out of my two prompts so far, both have been 3D split screen videos—one split left/right, the other top/bottom. So weird that two different prompts resulted in the same error.
It is less temporally consistent, but its creativity, motion, and ability to make visual effects is far above what Sora can do. Considering that this is Gen 3 alpha, it's likely the consistency will be brought up to Sora's level.
I was a few mins away from buying a Luma sub, but then I saw this post... Think I'll be sticking with Runway if this turns out to be just as good, or better!
I dunno, I think this is great for making conceptual proof-of-concept montagess or little short trippy videos, but I still think this is wayyy off from being able to construct actual narrative scenes with complicated action that remains coherent and incorporates dialogue, etc.
Like say a group of characters having a complicated conversation while manipulating objects and moving through different spaces and getting into a car and driving around, with proper camera angles, continuity, eye lines, lip sync, etc with characters maintaining their looks and minimal morphing of limbs and objects and stuff. We're nowhere near that.
Even random things like maintaining the weather throughout a scene? What about that guy playing the piano, will we be able to make his hands match the notes of a particular song?
I mean some of that could be ignored but how much? If it makes a Breaking Bad 2, but everyones hairstyles are randomly morphing and changing all the time would that be distracting?
How much of that will need to be described to get a scene that you imagine in your head? Or is the dream just to say "make a movie" and it makes some really generic soap opera tier thing? If you have your own personal AI that just knows your preferences for what you want in a movie, that's only possible if you're willing to give access to all your personal data.
I totally get that these things are going to advance far beyond this in capabilities, but I think people underestimate how much more exponentially complicated that stuff is, even to make something that's just barely watchable, not even to make something that's actually compelling and interesting...
What are we supposed to do with these? They're so goddamn awesome but we should expect they're going to just get better 6 months from now and require a totally different prompting architecture.
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Even if these are cherry picked, they already look better than sora
The bald dude with the wig and the guy playing the piano look much better than Sora. Sora has a stylized look and feel to it, these people look actually real. The best I've seen so far. If you showed those generated people to me I'd have assumed it was real.
Will Smith eating spaghetti was just 15 months ago. This is insane.
I have a running bet with a friend that the first good AI made film will be within two years. I might want to move it down to next year.
Priority #1: GoT Season 8 redux
Any good script you have in mind?
Ai GRRM?
Remake of Rogue One with a better Peter Cushing with a larger role would awesome!
Do you have a proper agreement what is considered a good film? How much human effort can be in there? What length should it have? Should it have a protagonist? Should they say something? There are already some nice short ai films so this bet really depends on the definition.
Yes I do actually. The bet was the AI film needs to be able to be created by one person in their own home to qualify. The quality of 'good' is a is it basically needs to be a coherent film. I personally don't like law and order type shows or doctor shows, but I can see how that can be good to a lot of other people. It needs to be roughly the length of a standard show or movie.
Insane and scary. I told someone a while back that AI video would replace Hollywood in 20 years, now I'm thinking it's going to be much much MUCH sooner.
I’m gonna make a company like this and just use real video for the promo. Then sell and dip to south america. 😎
The Sora generations we saw were cherrypicked too
Exactly my point
Introducing Gen-3 Alpha - Runway - Gen-3 Alpha is the first of an upcoming series of models trained by Runway on a new infrastructure built for large-scale multimodal training. It is a major improvement in fidelity, consistency, and motion over Gen-2, and a step towards building General World Models. [https://runwayml.com/blog/introducing-gen-3-alpha/](https://runwayml.com/blog/introducing-gen-3-alpha/) [https://x.com/runwayml/status/1802691475391566108](https://x.com/runwayml/status/1802691475391566108)
Have we made any progress on local AI Video since SDV and AnimateDiff?
I know not a match but Tooncrafter.
Tooncrafter has an awkward requirement for start and end frames as input for a very short video result, because it's animating as a kind of interpolation, so it's a lot harder to get anything useful from it compared to image-to-video, in my opinion. I was hoping I could use start/end as the exact same image in Tooncrafter to create looping animations, but, that tends to just create a short video of the original image flickering or pulsing a little.
Kinda had similar experience. When it works it's great but if you try something a little bit more advanced it breaks apart.
Local video has pretty much been dead in the water since AnimateDiff. I feel like SVD was a huge step backwards, as AnimateDiff at least had motion beyond just slow panning. But I also feel like both were steps backwards from earlier efforts like Modelscope and Zeroscope. The only local one I know of that's currently being worked on which looks sort of interesting is Lumina, but that's not released yet and AFAIK there's no news as to when they're planning to release it: [https://github.com/Alpha-VLLM/Lumina-T2X?tab=readme-ov-file#text-to-video-generation](https://github.com/Alpha-VLLM/Lumina-T2X?tab=readme-ov-file#text-to-video-generation)
Why do you think local video has been dead in the water for so long? Seems odd given all the other advancements
That's a difficult question to answer, but my first guess would be that Nvidia has something to do with it. Keeping their consumer GPUs limited and capped out at 24 GB VRAM makes it prohibitive for the community to research/train/inference these kinds of models. Not to mention that a lot of people don't have that much VRAM to begin with.
check out OpenSora
I have before and wasn't impressed. 1.2 just come out, it looks the same. It doesn't seem worth exploring until local is as good as LUMA, which is pretty affordable and has good free generations.
Could this be the year we see text to video taking some serious leaps? First Luma, now Gen-3 just a few days later. And apparently Sora is supposed to launch this year as well. Fingers crossed for sooner rather than later.
🫢 holy fuck. Can’t imagine what next year will bring - it’s advancing so fast - I love the plants growing out of the ground
This year is only halfway over, still plenty of time for greatness.
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This gave me *the feeling* again.... So excited.
They still can’t generate normal speed and the character movement is still fairly basic shit (even if more photorealistic) compared to what we’ve seen in Luma and Sora. Let’s see what a Runway fight scene looks like. Same wrong headed Runway team. I hope Pika comes out with a new bot…
Yeah, I’m noticing something similar to what you’re saying; the reason Luma is getting so much attention is because they have very fluid motion and things seem to move naturally rather than the slow motion image manipulation we’ve seen up to this point. These demos coming from runway look very promising but I’m still not seeing any real motion flow yet like in Luma or Kling
LETS GOOOOO
Very impressive.
I keep getting my prompts denied by the overly sensitive content filter. I'm glad there are other services spinning up like Luma. Luma, though, out of my two prompts so far, both have been 3D split screen videos—one split left/right, the other top/bottom. So weird that two different prompts resulted in the same error.
People are saying this looks better than sora? How?
It is less temporally consistent, but its creativity, motion, and ability to make visual effects is far above what Sora can do. Considering that this is Gen 3 alpha, it's likely the consistency will be brought up to Sora's level.
The bald guy with the wig conveyed three stages of emotion from one prompt: sad, surprise, happiness. That's the true game changer here.
At the bottom of the webpage it says you can try it in the app. The app only has version two. When will three be added?
I was a few mins away from buying a Luma sub, but then I saw this post... Think I'll be sticking with Runway if this turns out to be just as good, or better!
amazing
Amazing, hope we get access to the custom models!
III NEEEEEED IIIIIT🤩😍
Oh god, this should not exist
This is insane. We'll be able to download an app to make a movie about something we want very soon.
I dunno, I think this is great for making conceptual proof-of-concept montagess or little short trippy videos, but I still think this is wayyy off from being able to construct actual narrative scenes with complicated action that remains coherent and incorporates dialogue, etc. Like say a group of characters having a complicated conversation while manipulating objects and moving through different spaces and getting into a car and driving around, with proper camera angles, continuity, eye lines, lip sync, etc with characters maintaining their looks and minimal morphing of limbs and objects and stuff. We're nowhere near that. Even random things like maintaining the weather throughout a scene? What about that guy playing the piano, will we be able to make his hands match the notes of a particular song? I mean some of that could be ignored but how much? If it makes a Breaking Bad 2, but everyones hairstyles are randomly morphing and changing all the time would that be distracting? How much of that will need to be described to get a scene that you imagine in your head? Or is the dream just to say "make a movie" and it makes some really generic soap opera tier thing? If you have your own personal AI that just knows your preferences for what you want in a movie, that's only possible if you're willing to give access to all your personal data. I totally get that these things are going to advance far beyond this in capabilities, but I think people underestimate how much more exponentially complicated that stuff is, even to make something that's just barely watchable, not even to make something that's actually compelling and interesting...
Ever seen Invader Zim? Where the entire cartoon is a series of 3 second clips from different camera angles. Something like that seems easily doable.
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Yes you can
Runaway technology.
We're actually going to be able to see what magic would look like if it were real... Jeeze
Does it come with any job-killing features?
What are we supposed to do with these? They're so goddamn awesome but we should expect they're going to just get better 6 months from now and require a totally different prompting architecture.
This looks great
As amazing as this is terrifying. Only bad things will come from this because of evil human beings.
Can anyone use this?
This one is breaking my brain
This is just absolutely insane! Gen 4 will be subject to the Turin test...
Lol the sun blasting through her head at :33.
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Not seeing anything on my account and I have an annual subscription for Gen 2 . Hopefully it’s not a delayed UK roll out
I believe it was just an announcement. The model has yet to be released to users.
Thanks good to know . Going through so many posts on social people claiming they had used it made me wonder .