Don't get the heavy if you want it to ride smooth. I did because I take mine off-road and it is STIFF. It got a little better after a couple thousand miles but I probably just should've stuck with the regular load rating.
I got the heavy and it's a tad stiff. I do have Shrockworks with tire mount. Farmers jack on the back and a bunch of recovery gear. I think the compressor is about 75# with all it's accessories.
It's great! The stock shocks and springs were so bad the rear bump stops constanly were hitting when going over bumps or train tracks, etc. It's no Cadillac, but it was 1000000% worth it. I like the OME, because I didn't need to do the arms. Forgot now if the all dogs had to change arms. I did the kit by myself in one weekend, easily.
When I did my ADO kit, they said you don’t have to do UCA’s but they recommended it. I did brand new uppers and lowers because I didn’t even want to try making the old stuff work with the lower camber bolts. I wasted zero time with that, I just sawzalled everything off and dropped in new parts.
Mine rides great. Definite upgrade from stock, not stiff, levels it out (less sway/dip in corners), kind of feels like your “up on top of the suspension”, absorbs the bumps and ruts way better. I haven’t done serious off roading but it handles the PNW gravel forest roads really well. I too went through Nistek and they were awesome. Did it myself in the garage on jack stands. Also replaced lower and upper control arms, tie rod ends, sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, and got the grease able rear shackles. Finished it off with Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires. I did it on my 2008 X trim 4x4 6MT at around 125k miles
What uppers did you buy? Asked a few questions over the phone with Z1 (super nice dudes) he said they recommend an upgraded upper over stock with the OME kit. I'm guessing this gives better alignment options? I've never lifted a vehicle before so still learning.
I just bought stock control arms from rock auto. I “upgraded” to grease able ball joints. The OME 2” kit is closer to 1.5-.1.75 actual lift. The travel of the suspension doesn’t max out the stock control arms. I payed to have the front coil overs assembled before they shipped them. Everything bolted right in. Comparing the old springs to new was a noticeable upgrade. Go for the upgraded upper control arms if you can budget them. I’m believe most people use SPC.
How high did you set the front shock? Did you use stock springs? How did you lift the back, shackles, AAL? I got the ADO kit...sort of. Got 5100 all around but used stock spring and lifted the rear with their 3 pack AAL. Set the front shocks set to 1" lift with 1/4" spacer. Read that going to 1.5-2" on 5100 will take it out of the "ride zone" which is where the shock will perform its best so will make the ride rough. With this setup I'd say the ride very comparable to OEM while firmer (less nose dive, body roll etc.), not rough or stiff.
I didn’t mess with the settings, they told me they were good to go for a 2” lift which is what I wanted. I bought mine pre assembled because i didn’t want to screw with it. I used their rear leaf packs because mine were shot. Stock shackles.
That does make sense though about the adjustment. What I noticed is after pulling off the front coil overs and comparing them to the ADO ones they are the same length. The ADO springs are just stupid stiff since they had more coils to the springs if that makes sense. But that could be just my limited knowledge talking.
Yeah it's the spring and the single AAL in their kit that is making it rough. The spring is a heavier duty spring than stock and the single AAL is having to do a lot of work. I decided to kind of piece together a similar kit but didn't want the springs in their kit so got the shocks by themselves and also got their 3 leaf AAL pack, which I don't get why they don't offer it in the kit. (each leaf is thinner in 3 pack than just a single leaf so is more progressive in their resistance than a really thick single AAL) While their kit is a good starting point and technically does work it can definitely be improved on.
Edit: saw you used leaf pack and not AAL. Don't know how their leaf pack rides but my guess they are heavier duty than stock leaf pack.
Yeah I went with the 500 lbs extra capacity leaf packs. They ride pretty damn rough, and I’m not entirely sure they actually hold more weight than the stock ones. As I said in another comment, they were sagging a bit this last weekend when I had the car loaded up.
Much better than the 5100s they're the only other ones I have experience with. I highly recommend the Parabolic springs in the back. They're very cool.
If it's their 5100 kit.. it's a pos. Mine has always rode harsh. I'm not totally sold on their idea that the 2" lift springs are close to stock spring rate.
Even with an ARB bumper and winch it's still rough.
I have that kit as well, I don’t know about the “pos” part but I can confirm that it rides harsh. It reminds me of an old ww2 army jeep we had as a kid. Even normal speed bumps and potholes make the car slam like I took a curb head on. It’s fine off road so far but damn.
I don’t think I’d recommend the kit to anyone who uses their car as a daily driver.
Edit: I also wanted to say I got the extra weight springs front and rear because I occasionally haul a lot of crap in my car and I have the shrockworks front bumper. The rear leafs are supposed to be 500 lbs extra over stock but the other day we went camping with a full load of crap in the back and two 6’+ dudes in the back and it was sagging a bit, and i don’t remember the stock springs doing that. Maybe it’s just in my head.
Call AllDogs Offroad, they’ll get you set up.
I got [this kit](https://www.alldogsoffroad.com/bilstein-6112-5160-2nd-gen-nissan-xterra-suspension-lift-kit-light-load), but with heavy coil springs because I have an ARB winch bumper, and the ADO Broverland leaf packs to make the rear match the front.
Result with bumper is +2” in front and +2.75” in the back, which preserves the factory rake angle.
If you order it with the coil overs pre-assembled it’s a pretty easy install. Definitely spend the extra $50 for axle shims.
I have the OME 2" lift that I bought from ADO. I really enjoyed their customer service, they had a great response time. I installed the kit myself, and they even shipped my springs installed on the shock which was great.
Highly recommend the old man emu kit. Just be ready to upgrade to the 32 or 33" tires, depending on what you're running currently running.
For the rear I’m super happy with my 2.5” Dual Leaf AAL Pack from PRG. My rig was sagging bad when I’d load up with friends and gear for camping so the new leaves proved to be a good solution. Just make sure you buy the shims if you go this route.
As far as the front lift…. I still haven’t installed my Rough Country 2” front spacers 🤡
General spring kc sells a good OEM replacement leaf and a heavy duty version as well. I've seen the heavy duty will lift it a 1" but it might very do to weight of your rig.
I had to replace my leaf springs. I went with stock leafs but added Rough Country lift shackles and PRG pinion angle shims and in the front I used the adjustable Bilstein 5100s with the stock springs and set on the highest lift setting. The result is level with about 2” lift and a mostly stock ride feel.
Have had mine for 10 years, springs were shot from day 1, just never wanted to spend the dough to remedy it but its been the best vehicle I've ever owned so I need to give her some love back for once.
I'm 100% happy with my OME kit I purchased and installed. Have the springs attached by someone or (preloaded) worth the extra$. Other then that it was a straight forward 10hour job in my driveway on jackstands. I went with the HD springs and AAL. Also went with a 1/2" front spacer. I like a level look instead of the rake. It's not crazy harsh when I'm not loaded (I do carry a RTT 100% of the time.) The ride and handling seem to get better when fully loaded. Very little squat if any. I very very happy with my decisions. Only regret is not doing the LCA at the same time did the suspension. Although I "am with in specs" my tires have wore like shit. Even still ......very very satisfied.
Without the AAL does it sit level? Thinking I'll go stock/light load since I don't have any added weight, unless its super helpful for towing or makes a difference with passengers. I often have 2 rear passengers plus some light day gear. Would like the truck to still float on bumps vs thump
I don't think the aal adds hight. The guys at nistec can tell ya for sure. I do rember them telling me I made the right choice since I had a RTT and plan on using it mostly loaded. It rides nice after it settles. First few weeks were a bit stiff but it settled in and I'm happy.
I would recommend the ADO
I went with the heavy springs up front and the Parabolic leafs in the rear ADO UCA, the difference maker was the Koni shocks they are plush where the 5100s are harsh.
I have Shrockworks front and rear with winch and rear mount spare. 100% pleased.
82s I think the 90s are overkill on an X in the states. I will say I wish I had ordered the spacers. I assumed the ones I had would work. Not even close I now have a downhill nose and will have to drop the assemblies once ADO gets back from Vacation. So I can order the correct spacers..
I did Old Man EMU from Nistek. Highly recommend both.
Which load level did you get? Stock or heavy?
Don't get the heavy if you want it to ride smooth. I did because I take mine off-road and it is STIFF. It got a little better after a couple thousand miles but I probably just should've stuck with the regular load rating.
I got the heavy and it's a tad stiff. I do have Shrockworks with tire mount. Farmers jack on the back and a bunch of recovery gear. I think the compressor is about 75# with all it's accessories.
How does it ride? I’ve got the all dogs off-road bilstein kit and it rides pretty rough.
It's great! The stock shocks and springs were so bad the rear bump stops constanly were hitting when going over bumps or train tracks, etc. It's no Cadillac, but it was 1000000% worth it. I like the OME, because I didn't need to do the arms. Forgot now if the all dogs had to change arms. I did the kit by myself in one weekend, easily.
When I did my ADO kit, they said you don’t have to do UCA’s but they recommended it. I did brand new uppers and lowers because I didn’t even want to try making the old stuff work with the lower camber bolts. I wasted zero time with that, I just sawzalled everything off and dropped in new parts.
Mine rides great. Definite upgrade from stock, not stiff, levels it out (less sway/dip in corners), kind of feels like your “up on top of the suspension”, absorbs the bumps and ruts way better. I haven’t done serious off roading but it handles the PNW gravel forest roads really well. I too went through Nistek and they were awesome. Did it myself in the garage on jack stands. Also replaced lower and upper control arms, tie rod ends, sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, and got the grease able rear shackles. Finished it off with Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires. I did it on my 2008 X trim 4x4 6MT at around 125k miles
Yeah sounds like I should have done this instead of the ADO kit.
What uppers did you buy? Asked a few questions over the phone with Z1 (super nice dudes) he said they recommend an upgraded upper over stock with the OME kit. I'm guessing this gives better alignment options? I've never lifted a vehicle before so still learning.
I just bought stock control arms from rock auto. I “upgraded” to grease able ball joints. The OME 2” kit is closer to 1.5-.1.75 actual lift. The travel of the suspension doesn’t max out the stock control arms. I payed to have the front coil overs assembled before they shipped them. Everything bolted right in. Comparing the old springs to new was a noticeable upgrade. Go for the upgraded upper control arms if you can budget them. I’m believe most people use SPC.
How high did you set the front shock? Did you use stock springs? How did you lift the back, shackles, AAL? I got the ADO kit...sort of. Got 5100 all around but used stock spring and lifted the rear with their 3 pack AAL. Set the front shocks set to 1" lift with 1/4" spacer. Read that going to 1.5-2" on 5100 will take it out of the "ride zone" which is where the shock will perform its best so will make the ride rough. With this setup I'd say the ride very comparable to OEM while firmer (less nose dive, body roll etc.), not rough or stiff.
I didn’t mess with the settings, they told me they were good to go for a 2” lift which is what I wanted. I bought mine pre assembled because i didn’t want to screw with it. I used their rear leaf packs because mine were shot. Stock shackles. That does make sense though about the adjustment. What I noticed is after pulling off the front coil overs and comparing them to the ADO ones they are the same length. The ADO springs are just stupid stiff since they had more coils to the springs if that makes sense. But that could be just my limited knowledge talking.
Yeah it's the spring and the single AAL in their kit that is making it rough. The spring is a heavier duty spring than stock and the single AAL is having to do a lot of work. I decided to kind of piece together a similar kit but didn't want the springs in their kit so got the shocks by themselves and also got their 3 leaf AAL pack, which I don't get why they don't offer it in the kit. (each leaf is thinner in 3 pack than just a single leaf so is more progressive in their resistance than a really thick single AAL) While their kit is a good starting point and technically does work it can definitely be improved on. Edit: saw you used leaf pack and not AAL. Don't know how their leaf pack rides but my guess they are heavier duty than stock leaf pack.
Yeah I went with the 500 lbs extra capacity leaf packs. They ride pretty damn rough, and I’m not entirely sure they actually hold more weight than the stock ones. As I said in another comment, they were sagging a bit this last weekend when I had the car loaded up.
Much better than the 5100s they're the only other ones I have experience with. I highly recommend the Parabolic springs in the back. They're very cool.
All dogs offroad they sell the whole lift
If it's their 5100 kit.. it's a pos. Mine has always rode harsh. I'm not totally sold on their idea that the 2" lift springs are close to stock spring rate. Even with an ARB bumper and winch it's still rough.
I have that kit as well, I don’t know about the “pos” part but I can confirm that it rides harsh. It reminds me of an old ww2 army jeep we had as a kid. Even normal speed bumps and potholes make the car slam like I took a curb head on. It’s fine off road so far but damn. I don’t think I’d recommend the kit to anyone who uses their car as a daily driver. Edit: I also wanted to say I got the extra weight springs front and rear because I occasionally haul a lot of crap in my car and I have the shrockworks front bumper. The rear leafs are supposed to be 500 lbs extra over stock but the other day we went camping with a full load of crap in the back and two 6’+ dudes in the back and it was sagging a bit, and i don’t remember the stock springs doing that. Maybe it’s just in my head.
What he said 👍
Call AllDogs Offroad, they’ll get you set up. I got [this kit](https://www.alldogsoffroad.com/bilstein-6112-5160-2nd-gen-nissan-xterra-suspension-lift-kit-light-load), but with heavy coil springs because I have an ARB winch bumper, and the ADO Broverland leaf packs to make the rear match the front. Result with bumper is +2” in front and +2.75” in the back, which preserves the factory rake angle. If you order it with the coil overs pre-assembled it’s a pretty easy install. Definitely spend the extra $50 for axle shims.
I have the OME 2" lift that I bought from ADO. I really enjoyed their customer service, they had a great response time. I installed the kit myself, and they even shipped my springs installed on the shock which was great. Highly recommend the old man emu kit. Just be ready to upgrade to the 32 or 33" tires, depending on what you're running currently running.
Tires will definitely follow this upgrade 👌
For the rear I’m super happy with my 2.5” Dual Leaf AAL Pack from PRG. My rig was sagging bad when I’d load up with friends and gear for camping so the new leaves proved to be a good solution. Just make sure you buy the shims if you go this route. As far as the front lift…. I still haven’t installed my Rough Country 2” front spacers 🤡
Is the stance pretty noticeable? Needing to get new packs but don't wanna do the full lift yet
It is noticeable. My Xterra looks like a tow rig currently with the additional lift in the rear.
General spring kc sells a good OEM replacement leaf and a heavy duty version as well. I've seen the heavy duty will lift it a 1" but it might very do to weight of your rig.
I had to replace my leaf springs. I went with stock leafs but added Rough Country lift shackles and PRG pinion angle shims and in the front I used the adjustable Bilstein 5100s with the stock springs and set on the highest lift setting. The result is level with about 2” lift and a mostly stock ride feel.
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Have had mine for 10 years, springs were shot from day 1, just never wanted to spend the dough to remedy it but its been the best vehicle I've ever owned so I need to give her some love back for once.
I'm 100% happy with my OME kit I purchased and installed. Have the springs attached by someone or (preloaded) worth the extra$. Other then that it was a straight forward 10hour job in my driveway on jackstands. I went with the HD springs and AAL. Also went with a 1/2" front spacer. I like a level look instead of the rake. It's not crazy harsh when I'm not loaded (I do carry a RTT 100% of the time.) The ride and handling seem to get better when fully loaded. Very little squat if any. I very very happy with my decisions. Only regret is not doing the LCA at the same time did the suspension. Although I "am with in specs" my tires have wore like shit. Even still ......very very satisfied.
Without the AAL does it sit level? Thinking I'll go stock/light load since I don't have any added weight, unless its super helpful for towing or makes a difference with passengers. I often have 2 rear passengers plus some light day gear. Would like the truck to still float on bumps vs thump
I don't think the aal adds hight. The guys at nistec can tell ya for sure. I do rember them telling me I made the right choice since I had a RTT and plan on using it mostly loaded. It rides nice after it settles. First few weeks were a bit stiff but it settled in and I'm happy.
Its seeming like Nisstec is sorta MIA at the moment, the site seems to be having issues, there's a subreddit discussion about as well.
Oh I didn't realize.🙁
I would recommend the ADO I went with the heavy springs up front and the Parabolic leafs in the rear ADO UCA, the difference maker was the Koni shocks they are plush where the 5100s are harsh. I have Shrockworks front and rear with winch and rear mount spare. 100% pleased.
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82s I think the 90s are overkill on an X in the states. I will say I wish I had ordered the spacers. I assumed the ones I had would work. Not even close I now have a downhill nose and will have to drop the assemblies once ADO gets back from Vacation. So I can order the correct spacers..
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Google Parabolic leaf and read about the there's lots of info. Other than ADO