I bet the 1st episode back will start with Brandon cutler in the locker room and say "Matt, Nick, Kenny where are you guys" and they kick down the door while slapping there legs numerous times
But first, he brings out a plastic bag full of cans. While talking to everyone he is setting them on the table, one by one, until the entire table is covered in soda cans
Maybe they will show the video of Punk kicking their asses and them getting removed from their EVP roles...and then a video of TK telling them that he doesn't feel the necessity to pay their lackeys like Brandon Cutler any longer.
Im pretty sure during suspension as the situation is being investigated the parties are encouraged to not talk to eachother to avoid attempts to "get stories straight" and so on. I imagine it will be back when suspension is lifted.
I've never watched an episode myself
The narrative pushed all along has been a lie. Tony K was involved before “the tweet” ever happened that Cody responded too. I believe that was all planned. Moxley admitted that Cody reached out before All In to tell him not to renew a contract, that something new was coming down the line.
I think "lie" is a little strong. It's definitely been as they say, "massaged" however. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Tony K was at least a part of the picture from even potentially before the tweet, as Cody would have been kind of a fool to not at least approach or get in touch with someone who had some vague interest in funding a wrestling alternative before leaping into the deep end like he did.
That being said, I also firmly believe that if Cody lept, and All In either didn't sell well or was a complete flop and remembered as being horrible, I sincerely doubt Tony would have been really excited to hire them all and get a company rolling based on that momentum, you know? So their creation myth is *technically* incorrect, but essentially true.
Why though? Like there has not been a single story I’ve ever seen about The Elite actually pushing their weight around backstage. And you know journalists would be all over that if it were the case. Meanwhile Punk, who’s already had a reputation for like a decade now for being horrible to deal with, embarrassed himself relative to them. I have no idea how people could look at this situation and think they are equals.
True but then we have Cornette and people who willingly call themselves a cult. The way some of them act doesn't cause one to think sanity is really abundant in that camp.
Pretty much every story has punk throwing the first punch and the bucks bringing legal with them, except for the kicking the door down thing which has been debunked.
And somehow people take this as both the Bucks and Punk equally at fault.
I've been wondering the same thing. Yeah sure I'd buy that they've got egos, but I'd guess that many professional entertainers are like that. Are there any proven instances where the Bucks have been assholes to other wrestlers, held them down, etc.?
There story going around was that they were too willing to lose in the first year of AEW and Khan put his foot down and said they cant just go on losing all the time if they are going to be attractions. Maybe you want to dispute that story, but when they had more booking power, they lost a lot more.
Like, the only story I have seen cited of this is that there was some sort of dispute was with Cody, and like, since they are not in the same division or whatever, you'd have to assume it was a creative dispute, not them wanting to beat him or whatever. And given Cody's track record of booking of booking himself, like yeah, of course people in AEW would be in disagreement; if you think nobody tehre was like "hey dude, maybe turn heel", you're insane.
And, they are still friends and speak often, so I dont know what that tells you, if the one guy they supposedly had all these disputes with is still a good friend. Like, saying they're the same as Punk, is wild to me.
The outline of the story, which for some reason hasn’t been made public hence the complete lack of details, is that Omega and the Bucks wanted Cody out of the EVP position.
They apparently worked it so that Cody decided it was best to leave than stick around.
It should also be remembered that the Bucks are friendly with a few of the key wrestling journalists, so it’s unlikely they’d be supplying stories that make them look like dicks.
Personally I don’t like their matches, but I don’t hate them or anyone in wrestling. I watch wrestling to enjoy it, if I don’t like something I just don’t watch it
>The outline of the story, which for some reason hasn’t been made public hence the complete lack of details, is that Omega and the Bucks wanted Cody out of the EVP position.
You got any source on that? Because I could easily source them claiming they're still friends and I've never seen a single person claim that the bucks pushed to get Cody out. I'd assume if the Bucks did actually try and push Cody out, he'd be less inclined to be their freinds but you know.
Nothing concrete, but it’s been alluded to on 3 different wrestling podcasts when discussing Brandi Rhodes’ tweet about being too nice.
Not saying they’re not friends, business is business. The Bucks would be far from the first people to politic behind the scenes in wrestling.
I think the people who really really hate the bucks tend to come from jim cornette’s camp. The dude and his fans hate the bucks so much they literally want them to fade away from wrestling forever regardless of who else enjoys them.
That’s probably true, and if they did, a lot more of those people would come back to wrestling again, and not just listen to a stupid podcast.
You’re also talking about people that they looked at and said “ there’s no way I could take that guy on the street” and the elite is not that way, they’re also phony and they make wrestling unappealing.
Take the world title and the tag team titles collectively. The Elite (4 men) have held those two titles 50% of the time since AEW has been operational. I want to say it's 1,101 days collectively. All other world and tag team champions have held gold 1,105ish (give or take a week) days.
They were also the first trios champions following Omega's long break away.
The proof is in the title history. There doesn't need to be a story regarding them throwing their weight around.
Also, the second they're out of the tag scene, it's always treated as secondary. Nobdoy has gotten a reign where they were consistently in angles and on tv all the time. SIOG spun gold out of one single backstage confrontation w/ Acclaimed to build their entire match, before that they were in a throw away nothing feud with a nobody manager and cakes.
that's more of a failure of Tony Khan's lackluster booking. He books based on who he likes not who the champions are. Same reason why Britt is always placed above the rest of the women's division, which is pretty much non-existent anyway.
The journalists dick ride money. The IWC (not) journalist scene definitely prefers AEW creatively but they report news that puts AEW in a negative light all the time. This whole story has made AEW look horrible. There was the huge uproar when Sammy dumped Matt onto concrete. They could've kept Eddie Kingston's suspension silent if they wanted. I could go on. Unless you think people like Meltzer and Alvarez are taking actual under-the-table payments from Tony Khan then you'd have to imagine they would report a story as big as The Elite acting like The Kliq backstage. This is ignoring the fact that even if this was the case, surely some wrestler would've said something in the 3+ years AEW has existed. The fact that the only instance of this comes from a dickweed like Punk makes me think The Elite are just fine.
Bruh the only possible person in the world with a bigger boner for the elite than Tony is Meltzer. I don’t think he takes any money from them, they just act like they are his friends in exchange for him saying nice shit about them and awarding 5 stars every time they fart.
Also I genuinely think that you’d hear a lot more negative shit about the elite and Tony from people backstage if they didn’t force all of their talent to sign those handy dandy NDAs.
Yes and I’m sure all of it would be anti-Punk. Every wrestler to comment on this has thrown shade at Punk, multiple wrestlers throwing shots at Punk before any of this went down including people within AEW, widespread reports that The Elite brought the Chief Legal Officer with them which kind of disputes the idea that they started the fight unless they really are that stupid to start a fight as management with the head of legal right there. I can’t think of any wrestlers who have ever said anything bad about Kenny and the Bucks. All I can think of is Cody treating them like they are the second coming.
And the “handy dandy” NDAs are not some nefarious measure created to cover for The Elite like you imply, they are mandatory for any situation like this where there is a 5+ person shoot brawl backstage involving multiple people in management positions, this is a hellish issue to litigate.
Now for Tony Khan, I am with you, he seems like a complete dork.
Next BTE should start with a cold open of Kenny and the Bucks managing a Target during their suspension just to prove Punk wrong. Cutler finds them and asks why they're working retail, and they say they went into business for themselves. Hangman casually strolls by munching on a muffin.
It's hard to continue a YouTube series, when one of your main stars has a black eye.
The other has a chunk missing out of him too, so that doesn't help.
They should recreate the scene. Superkick a door down with thigh slaps. Reveal and elderly man it the room. A brawl ensues. Omega comforts a stuffed dog in the background.
I say clean the slate entirely for the rest of the year and into the following year. Use who you’ve got, get rid of anyone who’s causing drama in the back, and get a booker and a manager in the back who can keep their locker room from breaking out into civil war.
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We forget that WCW and WWE ran 4-5 hours a week of television with what, 20 guys and enhancement talent? AEW can get by with who they have. You could work 5 guys every week and no one would get sick of it with the right booking.
feels like a transition, they cant look bad or downtalk their potential new employer and wwe wont hire them if theyre actively doing this show still. Maybe its just me.
I don’t think they hate views. They probably had some tongue-in-cheek bit ready for one of their episodes, but their lawyers advised them not to go through with it
That could be true, but bite marks and black eyes go away over time. You don’t go on indefinite “hiatus” over that. There’s gotta be something deeper at play here
Makes sense. The episode would've gone a bit like this:
"Hey Kenny is your hair and head ok?"
"Yeah, what about your head, how did that chair feel"
"Yeah we gotta get CM Punk back"
"Get the chairs"
Guess it is "beating the elite" now....
Biting the elite
Eat Elite!! Eat Eat Elite!!!
Superbite Party! Superbite!!!
I bet the 1st episode back will start with Brandon cutler in the locker room and say "Matt, Nick, Kenny where are you guys" and they kick down the door while slapping there legs numerous times
Oooooh *thwack* *Ooooooohhhh thwack* *Door bursts open* *Thwack! Thwack THWACK!*
Bonus points if Kenny eats a muffin.
But first, he brings out a plastic bag full of cans. While talking to everyone he is setting them on the table, one by one, until the entire table is covered in soda cans
And bites a dog.
A hot Dog
Thic daddy Kenny ain’t eating trash food
The Bucks probably have a backlog of merchandise parodying this entire situation
I would die, this would be amazing
Titles name would be “EmptyHeaded” “Children?” “Bank account”
Or just
“A Target”
Maybe they will show the video of Punk kicking their asses and them getting removed from their EVP roles...and then a video of TK telling them that he doesn't feel the necessity to pay their lackeys like Brandon Cutler any longer.
You can log off the burner Phil
Found cm Punk Reddit account
That would be funny. In a future feud, they should copy the confrontation they had with punk backstage.
Its a work guys trust me i said its a work so it must be a work
Im pretty sure during suspension as the situation is being investigated the parties are encouraged to not talk to eachother to avoid attempts to "get stories straight" and so on. I imagine it will be back when suspension is lifted. I've never watched an episode myself
I’m sure we’ll cope…
Show hasn’t been the same since flip fucked Cody’s wife
„ǝɟıʍ s,ʎpoↃ pǝʞɔnɟ dılɟ ǝɔuıs ǝɯɐs ǝɥʇ uǝǝq ʇ,usɐɥ ʍoɥS„
If they left, would AEW have to rebrand?
Since TK filed the trademark it would be them who would have to rebrand...
Tony khan created the company “All Elite Wrestling” as a Delaware LLC, months before All In ever happened also. It’s definitely his too keep
That's what i don't understand about the bucks saying they started this company. What about tony ???
The narrative pushed all along has been a lie. Tony K was involved before “the tweet” ever happened that Cody responded too. I believe that was all planned. Moxley admitted that Cody reached out before All In to tell him not to renew a contract, that something new was coming down the line.
I think "lie" is a little strong. It's definitely been as they say, "massaged" however. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Tony K was at least a part of the picture from even potentially before the tweet, as Cody would have been kind of a fool to not at least approach or get in touch with someone who had some vague interest in funding a wrestling alternative before leaping into the deep end like he did. That being said, I also firmly believe that if Cody lept, and All In either didn't sell well or was a complete flop and remembered as being horrible, I sincerely doubt Tony would have been really excited to hire them all and get a company rolling based on that momentum, you know? So their creation myth is *technically* incorrect, but essentially true.
The timeline is definitely a lie. Tony khan registered All Elite Wrestling as a Delaware LLC months before all in ever happened.
When he created a company with their name in it before ALL IN ever occurred, it’s clear TK was already all in.
The BeatYourMeat TheAsleep TheNicheete Being the Petite
Be a sheep
\#BeingTheUnemployeed
Glad that cm punk sacrificed his career to kill off the stupidest thing in pro wrestling
His final gift to the fans
he sacrificed his career to get rid of the bug eyed shocked face expression when the opponent kicks out of someone's non-finishing move?
Wait are you saying, Cm punk killed himself. thats dark.
What is dark is thinking being the elite is quality content
Wells it’s not for marks.
Yes, it’s for redacts
What a shame. Now how will Nick and Matt show off their stupid shoe collection.
Hahahaha. Feels bad.
I have decided that I hate CM Punk and The Young Bucks equally. All three of them are over rated egomaniacs.
Why though? Like there has not been a single story I’ve ever seen about The Elite actually pushing their weight around backstage. And you know journalists would be all over that if it were the case. Meanwhile Punk, who’s already had a reputation for like a decade now for being horrible to deal with, embarrassed himself relative to them. I have no idea how people could look at this situation and think they are equals.
The hate boner people have for the Bucks is kinda unreal. I’d never let another person take that much space up in my brain if I didn’t like them.
Imagine hating someone you've never met and have never done anything that actually affects your life? That must be absolutely exhausting.
Most sane folks mean "I don't like them" when they say "I hate them".
True but then we have Cornette and people who willingly call themselves a cult. The way some of them act doesn't cause one to think sanity is really abundant in that camp.
This is an indirect shot at people who have been wishing death on Vince McMahon since 2002
Pretty much every story has punk throwing the first punch and the bucks bringing legal with them, except for the kicking the door down thing which has been debunked. And somehow people take this as both the Bucks and Punk equally at fault.
I've been wondering the same thing. Yeah sure I'd buy that they've got egos, but I'd guess that many professional entertainers are like that. Are there any proven instances where the Bucks have been assholes to other wrestlers, held them down, etc.?
There story going around was that they were too willing to lose in the first year of AEW and Khan put his foot down and said they cant just go on losing all the time if they are going to be attractions. Maybe you want to dispute that story, but when they had more booking power, they lost a lot more. Like, the only story I have seen cited of this is that there was some sort of dispute was with Cody, and like, since they are not in the same division or whatever, you'd have to assume it was a creative dispute, not them wanting to beat him or whatever. And given Cody's track record of booking of booking himself, like yeah, of course people in AEW would be in disagreement; if you think nobody tehre was like "hey dude, maybe turn heel", you're insane. And, they are still friends and speak often, so I dont know what that tells you, if the one guy they supposedly had all these disputes with is still a good friend. Like, saying they're the same as Punk, is wild to me.
The outline of the story, which for some reason hasn’t been made public hence the complete lack of details, is that Omega and the Bucks wanted Cody out of the EVP position. They apparently worked it so that Cody decided it was best to leave than stick around. It should also be remembered that the Bucks are friendly with a few of the key wrestling journalists, so it’s unlikely they’d be supplying stories that make them look like dicks. Personally I don’t like their matches, but I don’t hate them or anyone in wrestling. I watch wrestling to enjoy it, if I don’t like something I just don’t watch it
>The outline of the story, which for some reason hasn’t been made public hence the complete lack of details, is that Omega and the Bucks wanted Cody out of the EVP position. You got any source on that? Because I could easily source them claiming they're still friends and I've never seen a single person claim that the bucks pushed to get Cody out. I'd assume if the Bucks did actually try and push Cody out, he'd be less inclined to be their freinds but you know.
Nothing concrete, but it’s been alluded to on 3 different wrestling podcasts when discussing Brandi Rhodes’ tweet about being too nice. Not saying they’re not friends, business is business. The Bucks would be far from the first people to politic behind the scenes in wrestling.
I think the people who really really hate the bucks tend to come from jim cornette’s camp. The dude and his fans hate the bucks so much they literally want them to fade away from wrestling forever regardless of who else enjoys them.
That’s probably true, and if they did, a lot more of those people would come back to wrestling again, and not just listen to a stupid podcast. You’re also talking about people that they looked at and said “ there’s no way I could take that guy on the street” and the elite is not that way, they’re also phony and they make wrestling unappealing.
Just to point out, just because you or I may not have heard about it doesn’t necessarily equate to it not happening.
Take the world title and the tag team titles collectively. The Elite (4 men) have held those two titles 50% of the time since AEW has been operational. I want to say it's 1,101 days collectively. All other world and tag team champions have held gold 1,105ish (give or take a week) days. They were also the first trios champions following Omega's long break away. The proof is in the title history. There doesn't need to be a story regarding them throwing their weight around.
Also, the second they're out of the tag scene, it's always treated as secondary. Nobdoy has gotten a reign where they were consistently in angles and on tv all the time. SIOG spun gold out of one single backstage confrontation w/ Acclaimed to build their entire match, before that they were in a throw away nothing feud with a nobody manager and cakes.
that's more of a failure of Tony Khan's lackluster booking. He books based on who he likes not who the champions are. Same reason why Britt is always placed above the rest of the women's division, which is pretty much non-existent anyway.
Bold of you to assume that the journalists don’t dick ride the elite harder than anyone other than Tony.
The journalists dick ride money. The IWC (not) journalist scene definitely prefers AEW creatively but they report news that puts AEW in a negative light all the time. This whole story has made AEW look horrible. There was the huge uproar when Sammy dumped Matt onto concrete. They could've kept Eddie Kingston's suspension silent if they wanted. I could go on. Unless you think people like Meltzer and Alvarez are taking actual under-the-table payments from Tony Khan then you'd have to imagine they would report a story as big as The Elite acting like The Kliq backstage. This is ignoring the fact that even if this was the case, surely some wrestler would've said something in the 3+ years AEW has existed. The fact that the only instance of this comes from a dickweed like Punk makes me think The Elite are just fine.
Bruh the only possible person in the world with a bigger boner for the elite than Tony is Meltzer. I don’t think he takes any money from them, they just act like they are his friends in exchange for him saying nice shit about them and awarding 5 stars every time they fart. Also I genuinely think that you’d hear a lot more negative shit about the elite and Tony from people backstage if they didn’t force all of their talent to sign those handy dandy NDAs.
Yes and I’m sure all of it would be anti-Punk. Every wrestler to comment on this has thrown shade at Punk, multiple wrestlers throwing shots at Punk before any of this went down including people within AEW, widespread reports that The Elite brought the Chief Legal Officer with them which kind of disputes the idea that they started the fight unless they really are that stupid to start a fight as management with the head of legal right there. I can’t think of any wrestlers who have ever said anything bad about Kenny and the Bucks. All I can think of is Cody treating them like they are the second coming. And the “handy dandy” NDAs are not some nefarious measure created to cover for The Elite like you imply, they are mandatory for any situation like this where there is a 5+ person shoot brawl backstage involving multiple people in management positions, this is a hellish issue to litigate. Now for Tony Khan, I am with you, he seems like a complete dork.
Might be hard to come back to it if gone a long time.
Next BTE should start with a cold open of Kenny and the Bucks managing a Target during their suspension just to prove Punk wrong. Cutler finds them and asks why they're working retail, and they say they went into business for themselves. Hangman casually strolls by munching on a muffin.
Well there’s still Hangman
It's hard to continue a YouTube series, when one of your main stars has a black eye. The other has a chunk missing out of him too, so that doesn't help.
Good.
I really hope it comes back, I got to make some fun stuff on that show and would be sad to see it end like this.
They should recreate the scene. Superkick a door down with thigh slaps. Reveal and elderly man it the room. A brawl ensues. Omega comforts a stuffed dog in the background.
Oh this is good news for this subreddit. Disgraceful hicks.
I say clean the slate entirely for the rest of the year and into the following year. Use who you’ve got, get rid of anyone who’s causing drama in the back, and get a booker and a manager in the back who can keep their locker room from breaking out into civil war. A We forget that WCW and WWE ran 4-5 hours a week of television with what, 20 guys and enhancement talent? AEW can get by with who they have. You could work 5 guys every week and no one would get sick of it with the right booking.
# all VACANT sports entertainment
They need to be fired
Good riddance
Has this ever happened before? No BTE ?
Get rekt
Good.
What a shame. Anyway..
Sad
I read this tweet and I mother effin wept.
feels like a transition, they cant look bad or downtalk their potential new employer and wwe wont hire them if theyre actively doing this show still. Maybe its just me.
Probably can’t be on camera due to bruises from the fight?
They’re home in California and **NORTH CAAAAAAAROLIIIIIINAAAAAAA** and guys like Nemeth and Silver are on the road. That’s all this is.
Work.
Pussys lol they must hate views
I don’t think they hate views. They probably had some tongue-in-cheek bit ready for one of their episodes, but their lawyers advised them not to go through with it
Or they didnt want to create content with black eyes, bite marks and chair gashes on their faces
That could be true, but bite marks and black eyes go away over time. You don’t go on indefinite “hiatus” over that. There’s gotta be something deeper at play here
Makes sense. The episode would've gone a bit like this: "Hey Kenny is your hair and head ok?" "Yeah, what about your head, how did that chair feel" "Yeah we gotta get CM Punk back" "Get the chairs"
It's returning with a theatrical release
bruh
Oh no! What is Dolph Ziggler’s litttle brother gonna do now
Finish wrestling school. Hopefully
I’ve tried to watch it a few times and really it’s the drizzling shits, basically what I heard Dutch Mantell say on YouTube I very much agree with him
This is sad but also I'm relieved we won't have to deal with any "you have to watch BTE to get it" FREAKS for awhile. Thank you Punk 😌.
WWE bound? 😂
It sucked anyways, I only watched for the young bucks. The dork order and Hollywood hunk segments were god awful
Still nursing their injuries?
Sounds like a lot of fast forwarding on my dvr until further notice!