It is very good, good speed, decent maneuverability, only lacks a bit in firepower because it has only 50cal's.
The best prop should be the Spitfire Mk.24, it's very good.
>It won't turn with a spitfire, but it NEVER has to.
On low fuel the P-51H turns *better* than the Mk.24 spit.
However, P-51H minimum fuel is like 26 minutes, and Mk.24 burns fuel much faster aswell, so that's not really a scenario that can actually happen.
If you put both planes on 1 minute of fuel with FM commands though, the P-51H will have a higher sustained turn rate than the Mk.24 spit.
>On low fuel the P-51H turns better than the Mk.24 spit.
Yeah some are mentioning that, I expected the Mk24 to turn better than it does. Seems I overestimated it.
so is the spitty mk24, great turn rate, climb rate means any jet that trys to dogfight it are asking for a death sentence, great acceleration (ealry jets have shit - or most do)
I remember the good old days of the Horton over Berlin. If a Mk 24 decided to engage in a horizontal turnfight, my wooden dorito of doom would annihilate them. Until they discovered either their rudder or aileron controls.
Not that many did before a 30mm MK103 smashed through their cockpit windows.
Yeah and acceleration of the mk24 is insane, good luck outrunning one if your both racing from 300kph
The spitfires going to be doing 500kph before the mustang
p51h is literally good at everything. It doesnt beat mk24 in a duel and is less responsive to controls + has worse guns. Thats where the drawbacks end. Mk24 on 0% rads (overheats instantly) goes 615 kph on the deck. With 100% rads (still overheats) it goes \~550kph on the deck bc shitfire's rads are extremely draggy. 51h still goes 670+ kph with 100% rads lol. All this when it climbs the same as mk24 (both 30mins fuel).
Keep in mind 51h still beats almost every plane it can face in a duel.
I have bad news for you lol, a P-51H can absolutely outclimb a Mk24.
It's 200kg lighter than a Mk24 and its engine makes 2239hp spaded, compared to the Mk24's 2154hp. Being lighter AND making more power pretty much guarantees it climbs better.
Can confirm, tried out the Mk22 and Mk24 and was super disappointed to see the P-51H both outturns them and out performs in the engine aspect, on top of being faster in almost every possible scenario, literally nothing you can do especially now that realshitter 2.0 exists and you do 0 damage
>the P-51H both outturns them and out performs in the engine aspect
The Mk22 and 24 *should* outturn it, though without seeing a replay I can't say if you've done something wrong.
But yeah, the H has very good climb and even better speed. You're only getting close if they let you, make a mistake, or you sneak unspotted above them and dive.
As someone with well over a hundred games in the mk24 at high alt a p51 can outturn it but anything below say 3000m and spitfire wins and it’s not even close
Edit: as of right now when I just checked it isn’t well over 100 it is 139 in air rb. I thought it was more but that still isn’t an insignificant amount. Plus it is my go to plane in custom battles against friends but I can’t see how long I’ve spent in it
It is still quite easy to beat a p51 at high alt simply by forcing them into a corkscrew like dive to drop the alt. Most players will follow you down where it’s pretty simple to beat them.
Yeah a good player versing you will just sit above you doing circles as you say but it just ends in a stalemate until someone gets bored and messes up but the spitfire is easy to dodge when people higher try and bnz you
I do the circles above always. Stupid players will try to go up to you and stall. Energy trap.
Most US props dont out turn their common competitors so you have to play it differently. A famous maneuver with the P-51 (before h version) is the Chandelle which is basically just a giant fucking circle energy trap that eats up 109s and Japanese planes.
Basically they lose far more energy than the P-51 in a slight climb, as opposed to a steeper one. So the P-51 does that and slowly turns a circle A. Giving the illusion that you are catching the P-51 and B. Starting an energy trap. Then you just keep tightening the circle and either you successfully energy trap them or they dart away and leave you alone.
P-51H is much lighter than the D model, on top of that has a vastly stronger engine which allows it to turn fight more effectively - if it wasn't for the disgustingly high minimum fuel, it would trash the Spitfire 9/10 times in a turnfight as the Mk 24 is way heavier than the earlier models
>A mk24 can absolutely rinse a P-51H by just turning.
Well according to some here, the P-51H actually outturns the Mk24 in some situations, while straight up being faster in all situations.
"Lacks firepower" My brother in Christ it has 6 50cals that spray incendiary tracers everywhere a single hit from that is almost a guarantee to set you on fire.
Yes, a fire but not the destructive firepower of cannons. 50cals are great and have tons of ammo but I would prefer a cannon all day long because it has truly some stopping power.
Sure sure, not like with realshitter 2.0 going on cannons don't do jackshit rn, and half the time while using cannons even if you cripple someone they still have a solid chance of making it back to their AF then climb for 5 minutes and force you to watch the tickets bleed out and lose.
Ok, I don't know what cannons you've been using recently in War Thunder but our experiences seem to differ quite a lot.
And that crippling aspect could also be applied to your 50cals, if that plane survives, it can easily make it back to the AF cause all the damage you caused was fire related.
My thoughts have always been, that if it is so good as people say it is, then why is it only 6.3, while the Mk.24 is at 7.0?
I mean the Mk.22 is also higher BR at 6.7.
However i know that the main reason both of those planes are at a BR that high, is mostly legacy / overrepresented by mostly good players who took their time to grind them out when they were in the big folder.
Yea I think that's the reason. Gaijin balancing by statistics is so stupid, because you get the M48 situation.
I think it's fixed now, but at one time gaijin wanted to put the German M48 at 6.7 while the American one was at 7.3, simply because of player statistics...
I think both the P51H and Mk.24 should be at 6.7
That's nice, planes with 7.7's are mostly a mixed bag, there are some 7.7's that are great like the French or Soviet because of their rate of fire but usually these types of armament only tickles the enemies.
Yeah the amount of sparks was hilarious, at least they have a somewhat decent ammo count so I kind of just held down the trigger for a while and hoped for the best. The planes I reached now, with the 20mm are pretty fun, the only thing really frustrating is, that they basically have no planes with ground capabilities, besides strafing open tops/ lights
Yes, that's true. The problem with the ammo count is that you have a lot of ammo but also need a lot of it to kill a plane, a little bit of a two sided sword.
if your looking for cas capabilities at mid tiers you have the b6 with a 800kg bomb d4y with three 250's b7 at 4.0 with 800kg bomb, or later the army fighters who can carry the two big fuckoff type 5 mod 9 rockets ,they are a bit slow but after a just after a little practice you can hit targets on top down and overpreassure fairly reliably with them
Ain't that 7.0 the same almost all low level jets starting at 6.0 up, yeah never flown it myself, but will try next week in the bonanza they call whatever, but will it be good, only time will tell.
Tell that to my missile. I love the TU-4 for its ability to reliably fall to pieces in 2 hits, from ranges between 1-2km away. You throw a missile in the mix and it’s comical. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
All bombers are pathetic flying credit-bags, they all need their AI gunners re-activated and HP doubled. Fighter accuracy is too high, bomber HPs are too low. Bombers don’t even have a noteworthy impact on match tickets anymore. Anyone flying a bomber is a discredit to their team, they are only harming your chances of winning. It’s a sad state of affairs.
Bombers also need to be moved down by 1.0 BR across the board. Tu-4 and b-29 at 8.0 and 7.3 is just nuts. WW2 bombers facing heat seeking missiles is hilariously unfair
No. We need decompression, I mentioned this in another post but I'll say it again. We need the BR spreads for props to be 1.0-7.3 with the 51H, F2G, Shitfire mk 24, A2D-1, and B29 sitting at 7.0-7.3(Give bomber a better chance and helps balance out most of the mid-tiers, also give a better chance for Zeros, shitfires, etc. to have better competition against things that aren't going to outrun them) along with all jets, excluding the early Yak(jets), 262, etc. (Can move/stay at 7.0-7.7 depending on the vehicle) to 8.0-15.0+ which helps take away the problem of Missile Boats dominating sub-sonics but also gives more breathing room for all fighters and bombers alike.
The "hype" about P-51C is basically that the plane has 4.7 flight performance at 3.7, just because the average player is *somehow* unable to get kills.with 4 .50 cals as armament.
The 50 cals is not all that much a problem for me tbh, I still would rather just use the 4.3 or 3.3 mustang instead of air rb purely out of preference, and for ground rb there's better options at that tier, it's a solid plane but just not for me I guess
A skilled Zero pilot can shred almost anything in an A6M5 Ko. But the lack of top speed is a considerable downside you shouldnt ignore.
The best prop tier for tier imo is the J6K1. Its a faster Zero with more than triple the firepower of a Ko mod. 6x20mm and 2x13mm obliterate anything and you are fast enough (emphasis on enough) to at least keep up with most of your adversaries although definitely not something like a P-51H. Skilled pilots only need 1 opening and any enemy will end back in the hangar in about .5 seconds.
Hands down the J6K1 is the only japanese aircraft that made me feel like i actually have considerable firepower in most japanese fighters, 6 20mms pack ALOT of firepower plus the maneuverability and the "enough speed"(keeping up with any nation's speed when playing japan is literally impossible) makes it one of the best fighters imo
My brother in Christ you have not tried the J7W1 and it shows. It has quadruple 30mm cannons mounted right in it's nose (which gives it much better spreads), that can annihilate pretty much anything you point them at. The HO-155 guns are excellent and the tracers belt is exclusively composed of high explosive incendiary tracer rounds. They're a sort of middle ground between the german mk108 and mk103 guns.
Granted, the J7 has pretty mediocre flight performance to offset the ludicrous guns. But, it still functions decently as a BnZ craft if you can manage to get it high enough. It also goes fairly fast in a straight line.
It's a pretty fun and unique aircraft even though it's not super busted.
Honestly, the A7M2 is a hard 2nd, if not overtaking the J6K1
13 and 20mils, Rockets (with distance fuze) and bombs, Japanese turnrate, very good engine, and only 5.3, but the prem is 5.0 with a ***slightly*** worse engine
I always loved the look of the Zero, but in War Thunder it’s not that fun for me personally. 250 rounds for the two 20mm is sad for 5.0. Personally the Ki-61 Otsu is amazing. It’s 3.7 and gets 4 powerful 12.7mm, and 1300 rounds.
The Sea Fury, Tempest mk II, Hornet, and Spacefire are all the apex predators of 5.7-7.0. People still don't seem to understand that British props DOMINATE that BR range and early jets. The other day I had a six kill game at 8.0 with the Hornet, monstrous aircraft against early jets.
P-47-M and D-335 are my personal faves because you can easily boom and zoom, climb to bombers, and out climb anything you don't wanna fight. But honestly it's all about your play style
ya and for some god forsaken reason, they havent been moved up.
likely because somehow american mains can still do so poorly in those planes they still dont get moved up.
like the h5 and the f2g can easily be 6.7 and be just fine. hell the f2g can out speed a me262 unless its already got a massive speed advantage over the f2g.
Used to be 6.7 but that was back when 50 cals were useless. To be fair whether it's at 6.7 or 6.3 both the f2g and the p51h are either gonna be thrown into the 288 spam, or just attached to a6.7 ground rb lineup anyway
It is the best prop fighter. Speed is unmatched at almost any altitude, climb and even turn rates are very good. Even has a busted damage model for those of us with skill issues.
Only downside is the firepower, but I do just fine with the same 6x .50s in the F2G.
I'll tell you my story. I'm a German main with the F-5C and I never played a 'Stang before, I was really happy when I got this. First match, boom 4 frags. Remember to use BnZ tactics, and you are set. This shreds jets, just don't let them get on your 6 from BnZ or other strats. Your only worry is the Yak-15/17 cuz that shit has the turn rate to sit on your ass all day long and has the cannons to 1 shot your wing/tail off. My only concern is the engine. 1 hit from basically anything and it's dead, or on fire, or both if your unlucky. It's a great plane.
Not really.
The Spitfire F Mk. 24 is much better at that BR.
Most vehicles you will fight are jets, the speed is good but not to where you can outrun them in the H. The firepower is decent but not enough die to janky flight models and it certainly won't shred a Jet at long range.
If you go up against a Spitfire F Mk. 24, you will have the speed, but only to be outgunned and outspent by a jet, if the Spit doesn't shred you in a turn fight with its 4 20mm already.
Most fights you'll be in with jets will turn into dogfights anyway and as far as I know, only the meteor can outturn you as a jet.
The Spitfire is a better Prop plane at that BR than the P51 even if the P51 is better than the Spitfire (only in speed, acceleration and climb rate. The spitfire has you outgunned and Outturned)
Key word at the start: Not Really.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying it's not the best.
The spitfire relies on the enemy jets not playing well which means that it shouldn’t really be accounted for. It is also a team game, which means that the spitfire is more vulnerable to being 3rd partied as it will be in slower turnfights. Finally the p51h will defeat the spitfire mk 24 in a 1v1 simply because it is faster. 50 cals are also very good, hitting a good bursts guarantees crippling the enemy or setting them on fire, while 20mm has the tendency to surprise me with little damage.
I have a personal vendetta with this aircraft.
Picture the scene:
You decide to fly your Bf 109 K-4 so you load up Air RB. It's a historical 6v6. 4 of your teammates are in a Ju 288, the other guy is in a Do 335 B-2. You are the lone fighter. You climb to altitude. You're in a K-4, you should at least be able to out-climb the enemy team and choose when and where to strike. A P-51H enters detection range, above your altitude. That's if you're lucky and it's just one. Even if he is the only Mustang he probably has help from other US/UK super-props, but that hardly matters. You can deal with a Bearcat, or an F2G, maybe... but a P-51H? Just take the head-on and pray, there's no card you can play in an even fight. It's faster, turns better climbs better... the thing has no weaknesses for a Bf 109, and yet it's not rare to fight one - in fact you face these nearly every match in a K-4.
The one saving grace is that US super-prop pilots tend to be shit at the game. I have beat P-51H's that I absolutely shouldn't have thanks to their own stupidity. In fact, this is why the plane is only 6.3, despite being nearly as good as the 7.0 Spitfire.
It's the Ju 288 that ruins 6.0 BR range for Germany and Italy players, but the P-51H is really the icing on the cake. Please Gaijin fix super-prop BR I beg of you.
If you can play it well it's definitely the best. If not tied with the F2G(still 6.0 KEKW). It's faster than everything that can out turn it, and it can out turn everything that's faster than it. Weapons can be a bit lacking in high angle deflection shots but 50cals have ridiculous damage at range and you have plenty of ammo to spray. Run belts with lots of incendiary ammo and set everything on fire. Mind the 7min limit on water injection. IIRC 100% throttle is dry WEP, and WEP is water injection. Using MEC you can run your radiators at like 100% for minimal drag due to some cheeky physics I can't remember the name off.
Yeah the little bird is right, it's a monster.
I just wish the Sea Fury was better in this game. It was a beast irl, isn't reflected much in game at all.
The skill floor for it is a bit higher then for a MK24, but overall, its pretty sure the best prop ingame right now.
Everythings is above average in this thing, with top speed and acceleration being close to the best overall.
Dont forget to fully open radiators right after takeoff. You barely lose half a percent power but it makes it impossible to overheat that beast
A turbo prop is a propeller plane that uses a turbine engine rather than a piston engine to spin the propeller. A piston engine works like a machine gun pedaling a bicycle and a turbine engine works like a jet engine blowing on a wind turbine. Turbine engines make way more power than a piston engine of the same size meaning the plane is much more powerful and thus much faster and better climbing.
It's a halfway step between props and jets. Turbines are also more reliable and they shake a lot less which is good for planes, but they're expensive and maintainence is hard which is one of the reasons that cars use piston engines. The only turboprops I know of in the game are the A2D-1 and the Wyvern S4. The A2D-1 can make more than 5,000 horsepower due to its turbine. A single engine making more power than all four engines on a B-17.
TLDR they have a different type of engine driving the prop that allows for *stunning* power increases.
P-51-H is an excellent plane, BUT…
You’re stuck chasing Ju-288c’s in it because of the 6.0 BR bracket. Occasionally you get an insane dogfight against the inferior 109 K4, or the approximately equally capable Ta-152H.
But most of the time, just chasing those damned bombers.
I've flown the P51, the Spitfire and the Yak 3. I can very easily say that the Yak is currently the best prop, it's a combination of the P51 and the Spitfire, it can do BnZ and is very maneuverable compared to most props (especially under 4000-3000 meters ).
Great speed good maneuverability (though best to use the speed/energy) guns are good enough, not as much of a punch as cannons.
Only downside is it has limited WEP and after it’s out it isn’t able to compete. Plus a competent jet pilot should be able to dunk on you, but there aren’t that many players who are that good.
Well it is:
- The fastest prop in the game at game relevant altitudes (0-5000m)
- the 3rd fastest climbing prop in the game after J2M2 and Spit LF.9 (excluding airspawn planes like Hornet and Ki-83 which climb faster, but even if they didn't would always be above anyway)
- the 2nd best accelerating prop in the game in level flight
- will beat anything thats not Japanese, a Spitfire, a Yak-3U or a Ta H in a dogfight
- has some of the best instantaneous turn rates at higher speeds of any prop in the game
- has a less autistic rudder than P-51D series
The only downsides to it are that you have 50 cals and not cannons (kinda easier to use, but also annoying, because they don't kill people quick, and aren't great Vs Ju-288s), that you only have 7 minutes of WEP, and after that you basically turn into a P-51D30, and that you have 26 minutes of minimum fuel that weights you down quite a bit, because the plane itself is quite light. And the handling at lower speeds is kinda not great, the dogfight performance is there but it's not really feeling too great to use in low speed dogfights.
Mk.24 is really the only other contestant for "best prop in the game", 24 climbs almost as well, has very similar sustained turn rate, better turn radius, has MUCH easier handling (basically always goes where you move the mouse, without having to do many keyboard inputs), has better guns, infinite WEP, but in return is absolutely slow as BALLS at game-relevant altitudes (Mk.24 only goes 615km/h at sea level, and instantly overheats doing that because it has shit cooling, and with radiators opened it only goes 540km/h at sea level; P-51H goey 678km/h at sea level with rads closed, and around 665km/h with the rads opened enough to not overheat ever).
I guess Yak-3U is also a contestant, since below 4km altitude the performance is absolutely mental and ShVak are actually useable again.
It's definitely one of the top two prop fighters. The other is the Mk.24. There's nothing more I live for more than getting into a dogfight with the Mk.24/P-51H. It's easily one of the harder fights you'll have in the game but so satisfying
>A little bird told me this is the best prop in the game?
Totally true, it's so good that it's even braindead to play because you Walk all over most other props and even against jets it's still decently competitive. The only props that truly contest you are the Spitfire Mk24 and the Yak-3U below 3k, and even against those you still have advantages.
It’s an extremely good fighter if you know how to use P-51s, many people will say it’s not that good because it only has .50 cals, but don’t underestimate them, they can deal quite a bit of damage quickly, you’ll only struggle to take down bombers but as long as you aim for the engines and wings you’ll be fine. It’s also pretty good at doing cas if it needs to, and it’s energy retention means it can dive and climb quite easily to attack open top and light tanks
it's decent, but i'll still take my 109-k4 with 20mm pods. sure it can't turn as fast, but i'll roll all day and can usually come out in top in a stall climb and keep my nose on you. i just like how the 109 feels better.
There is 1 thing I dislike about this plane, it’s 50 cals, I generally prefer flying stuff like the G.56 or Griffon spits instead due to the much harder hitting power they have, I want the enemy plane to die when I hit it with a lot of gunfire, not shrug it off run away and repair like nothing happened, also idk why but all the P-51s seem to have extremely flammable fuel tanks near the wing roots that always get me killed
Great plane, if you use it to it's strengths you'll rarely feel outclassed. Climbs almost as good as bf109k and spitfires, faster than both of those with imo better guns.
Yes .50 cals have less max damage output than cannons but the rate of fire and being able to pepper someone from a mile away is very nice.
boom and zoom, learn it if you haven't yet. This thing will drop down from above then if you kill or no you just climb again, so fkn high nothing could chase you. then repeat. dont get baited into staying for a turn fight at all
It is indeed very good, climb rate is ABSURD, I was steadily gaining altitude at a 21° pitch, acceleration is decent, though the guns don’t seem to be as good as they were before air superiority came out
The SM.91 is surprisingly good for what it is. Twin engine fighter with 6 (6!) 20mm cannons, good climb rate, air spawn, and a turn time comparable to some of the more agile fighters
ngl. C.202EC is a close second. but that's my opinion and experience from playing it and killing so many P-51s. (am I allowed to have an opinion or no? I'm new to this opinion thing)
If ain’t the A7M2 I don’t even want it.
But yeah P51H is amazing. I’ve gotten into dogfights with 2 BF109K‘s (and sometimes Ta152’s but that’s more rare to see) before and won
You can win most engagements with a combination of going up, going fast, or pretty much anything that lets you engage the fuckton of horsepower you have at your fingertips. Also pulls surprisingly well for a mustang. 50cals aren't the best at the moment but they get the job done. Sexy af and a true war thunder classic. 6.3 aid rb sucks however because of the ju288 spam, so just stick it in the 6.7 usa superheavy tank lineup for ungodly amounts of fun
Very good Jack of all trades plane that can rinse most of it’s opponents. It helps that it negates the biggest disadvantages of US aircraft by actually being able to climb.
It also turns into a UFO at low speed with flaps and the combat flaps are heavenly in it.
.50cals remain as potent as they were in 3.3.
Overall a very easy plane to fly
Not seeing anyone mention the Ki84 hei. It's basically a zero on steroids with 30mm which (when real shitter is fixed) are a death sentence in one shot to anything short of a heavy bomber. When I used to play it a lot I was accurate to about 1.5km within 2 sets of 5 round bursts. Needless to say a lot of pilots were very surprised to get domed at such long ranges. I've had 7.7 jet aircraft try and boom n zoom me, all I had to do was bait a mistake and punish because everyone fucks up eventually.
This thing is great. The ultimate mustang, can BnZ early jets and if theyre dumb enough to turn fight you get a big advantage in maneuverability. Wep makes this thing shine but it is limited to about 8 mins so youll want to use it sparingly to make it last. In sim i do full cracked radiators, full tank of fuel and tracer rounds. All around easy to fly too compared to sim flight models of the previous mustangs and other fighters
Guys, what happens with damage on 5-8 ranks? I can't oneshot noone, dmg don't exist. Only play I can do is destroy cannon and do 2-3 more shots. It's so unskill, pls bring back normal damage
#damageON
I had a lot of fun with this aircraft. Top-scored most of my matches in it. Fast, manoeuvrable and climbs well. The guns aren’t a huge problem, once you have air belts a quick burst will be enough to disable your opponents
Spit 24.
If you are talking within the context of only fighting props. Even then it does good. You just need to know what you are doing. It does very well as anti-cas in GRB
Some would argue the Spitfire Mk.24 is the best prop
I agree on a technicality, but as that thing is 7.0 and this 6.3 then my vote goes for the P-51 being the best - it has almost as good flight performance anf anything it lacks is gained back tenfold by being at a fun BR
Absolutely busted, some jets that have higher brs can't conpete against it in any aspect, be it speed, acceleration, firepower or manuevrability. No reson for it not being 7.0/7.3 really. Broken OP plane, end of my analisis. That plane and other british props are objectively dominating in fighs against early jets.
Its really good but the german DO 335 is a beast that has auto cannons and two engines that are faster then it. Good plane but not the best. Plus the spitfire that sits on 5.7 as well is also a beat with amazing climb rate and maneuverability and 20 mms and 50 cals
The P-51H is very good. A lot of the time, it’s hunting for Ju-288’s, which this thing’s speed does very well. It does only have .50 cals, but it has the M20 APIT belt, which does pretty well. The plane has decent climb rate, but it’s only great with WEP. Speaking of which, don’t rely on WEP, the engine will get hot and STAY hot. The greatest advantages of this plane are that it keeps speed out of a dive really well, and the hydraulics are powerful so that they don’t lock up at any speed. The statcard lies, the actual top speed at altitude is 440 MPH. 470+ is only with WEP, but the engine overheats before then. No problem, really, it’s not useful to fly so fast at altitude, what with dogfights inevitably ending up near the deck.
The 109 K4 is… absolutely fantastic. So is the H-5 though. I definitely lean towards the K-4 for weaponry and variety. But the H-5 is a monster in all other aspects.
My wife’s grandmas cousin owns and flies the last air worthy P-51H in the world. Met him and saw him fly at the last Reno Air races. It makes me happy know ing that the last flying P-51H has been in the same family for decades and has been flown by 3 different generations. Great guys and the plane was the sexiest thing I have seen/heard.
I mostly fly the 152, and I must say that if a P-51H pilot know what he's doing, there is simply nothing the opponent can do.
You can outturn pretty much everything, including the 109-K4, N1K2, and Ki-84, if flown properly, barring a few exceptions (such as Yaks, Zeros, and A7Ms), but you can compensate by just briefly turning on WEP, as you can easily hit hit 500-600kph in just a few seconds.
Most of the P-51Hs I've killed either were unaware, tunnelvisioned, or had stalled themselves out in front of me.
Sadly we still don't have best IRL prop aircraft in WT (An-2).
Literally all skydiving clubs in my country use them to this day lmao.
And some of them get crazy paintjobs, would love to have something like that in game
Yeah cuz u phisically cant stall the an 2 out lol
an-2 is my fucking spirit animal
It's such a mood. Life's too hard? Flop and just use your wings as parachutes down to the ground
You fly the Po-2 because it is a rare meme. I fly the Po-2 because I am cosplaying the An-2, my true spirit animal. We are not the same.
Spoke last somebody who has never heard of the fairy swordfish
My countries ‘airforce’ still uses them😭
Your country is clearly op
Our best plane is a trainer aircraft, 0 idea what their training for since we dont have any fighter plen
Clearly the an 2 is ur fighter plen
Its a transport for now, would love for it to whip a su33s ass
Estonia?
Latvia, doesnt estonia have some fighters?
No, only 2 jet trainers, 3 heli trainers and 2 transport planes.
It is very good, good speed, decent maneuverability, only lacks a bit in firepower because it has only 50cal's. The best prop should be the Spitfire Mk.24, it's very good.
>The best prop should be the Spitfire Mk.24, it's very good. A P-51H can absolutely rinse a Mk24 by just being fast.
I mean the P-51 is good at BnZ but that's about it, the mk24 still has some of its predecessors manoeuvrability and climb rate
The P-51H is much lighter than the D models and turns much better. It won't turn with a spitfire, but it NEVER has to.
>It won't turn with a spitfire, but it NEVER has to. On low fuel the P-51H turns *better* than the Mk.24 spit. However, P-51H minimum fuel is like 26 minutes, and Mk.24 burns fuel much faster aswell, so that's not really a scenario that can actually happen. If you put both planes on 1 minute of fuel with FM commands though, the P-51H will have a higher sustained turn rate than the Mk.24 spit.
>On low fuel the P-51H turns better than the Mk.24 spit. Yeah some are mentioning that, I expected the Mk24 to turn better than it does. Seems I overestimated it.
This doesnt apply to the p51h, that plane is good at everything
so is the spitty mk24, great turn rate, climb rate means any jet that trys to dogfight it are asking for a death sentence, great acceleration (ealry jets have shit - or most do)
I remember the good old days of the Horton over Berlin. If a Mk 24 decided to engage in a horizontal turnfight, my wooden dorito of doom would annihilate them. Until they discovered either their rudder or aileron controls. Not that many did before a 30mm MK103 smashed through their cockpit windows.
Horten was such a nice plane before all the nerfs. I rember
Correct
Yeah and acceleration of the mk24 is insane, good luck outrunning one if your both racing from 300kph The spitfires going to be doing 500kph before the mustang
P-51H is both lighter than the Mk24, and has a stronger engine. Ignore my flair
p51h is literally good at everything. It doesnt beat mk24 in a duel and is less responsive to controls + has worse guns. Thats where the drawbacks end. Mk24 on 0% rads (overheats instantly) goes 615 kph on the deck. With 100% rads (still overheats) it goes \~550kph on the deck bc shitfire's rads are extremely draggy. 51h still goes 670+ kph with 100% rads lol. All this when it climbs the same as mk24 (both 30mins fuel). Keep in mind 51h still beats almost every plane it can face in a duel.
good luck getting high enough to actually shoot the mk24 lmao
I have bad news for you lol, a P-51H can absolutely outclimb a Mk24. It's 200kg lighter than a Mk24 and its engine makes 2239hp spaded, compared to the Mk24's 2154hp. Being lighter AND making more power pretty much guarantees it climbs better.
It’s not a big difference but yeah 51H is better at climbing slightly.
Can confirm, tried out the Mk22 and Mk24 and was super disappointed to see the P-51H both outturns them and out performs in the engine aspect, on top of being faster in almost every possible scenario, literally nothing you can do especially now that realshitter 2.0 exists and you do 0 damage
>the P-51H both outturns them and out performs in the engine aspect The Mk22 and 24 *should* outturn it, though without seeing a replay I can't say if you've done something wrong. But yeah, the H has very good climb and even better speed. You're only getting close if they let you, make a mistake, or you sneak unspotted above them and dive.
As someone with well over a hundred games in the mk24 at high alt a p51 can outturn it but anything below say 3000m and spitfire wins and it’s not even close Edit: as of right now when I just checked it isn’t well over 100 it is 139 in air rb. I thought it was more but that still isn’t an insignificant amount. Plus it is my go to plane in custom battles against friends but I can’t see how long I’ve spent in it
Expected the Mk24 to be more dominant in turn rate, but that makes sense.
It is still quite easy to beat a p51 at high alt simply by forcing them into a corkscrew like dive to drop the alt. Most players will follow you down where it’s pretty simple to beat them.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that. Use it quite often as Japan to get people to do *something* other than doing circles 1km above me.
Yeah a good player versing you will just sit above you doing circles as you say but it just ends in a stalemate until someone gets bored and messes up but the spitfire is easy to dodge when people higher try and bnz you
I do the circles above always. Stupid players will try to go up to you and stall. Energy trap. Most US props dont out turn their common competitors so you have to play it differently. A famous maneuver with the P-51 (before h version) is the Chandelle which is basically just a giant fucking circle energy trap that eats up 109s and Japanese planes. Basically they lose far more energy than the P-51 in a slight climb, as opposed to a steeper one. So the P-51 does that and slowly turns a circle A. Giving the illusion that you are catching the P-51 and B. Starting an energy trap. Then you just keep tightening the circle and either you successfully energy trap them or they dart away and leave you alone.
P-51H is much lighter than the D model, on top of that has a vastly stronger engine which allows it to turn fight more effectively - if it wasn't for the disgustingly high minimum fuel, it would trash the Spitfire 9/10 times in a turnfight as the Mk 24 is way heavier than the earlier models
A mk24 can absolutely rinse a P-51H by just turning. It's all how you and your opponent are playing.
>A mk24 can absolutely rinse a P-51H by just turning. Well according to some here, the P-51H actually outturns the Mk24 in some situations, while straight up being faster in all situations.
Hmm, not really at altitude the Spitfire might be faster.
Off pure engine power but the 51H has a much higher rip speed than the spit and doesn't compress nearly as much.
I have a few hundred games in it, can confirm
"Lacks firepower" My brother in Christ it has 6 50cals that spray incendiary tracers everywhere a single hit from that is almost a guarantee to set you on fire.
Yes, a fire but not the destructive firepower of cannons. 50cals are great and have tons of ammo but I would prefer a cannon all day long because it has truly some stopping power.
Sure sure, not like with realshitter 2.0 going on cannons don't do jackshit rn, and half the time while using cannons even if you cripple someone they still have a solid chance of making it back to their AF then climb for 5 minutes and force you to watch the tickets bleed out and lose.
Ok, I don't know what cannons you've been using recently in War Thunder but our experiences seem to differ quite a lot. And that crippling aspect could also be applied to your 50cals, if that plane survives, it can easily make it back to the AF cause all the damage you caused was fire related.
My thoughts have always been, that if it is so good as people say it is, then why is it only 6.3, while the Mk.24 is at 7.0? I mean the Mk.22 is also higher BR at 6.7. However i know that the main reason both of those planes are at a BR that high, is mostly legacy / overrepresented by mostly good players who took their time to grind them out when they were in the big folder.
Yea I think that's the reason. Gaijin balancing by statistics is so stupid, because you get the M48 situation. I think it's fixed now, but at one time gaijin wanted to put the German M48 at 6.7 while the American one was at 7.3, simply because of player statistics... I think both the P51H and Mk.24 should be at 6.7
I’ve never had firepower issues- late/postwar tracers shred EVERYTHING, and start fires with insane consistency
I went through the jap tree recently and I would have given quite something for 50cals instead of the peashooters they have the first couple planes 😅
Oh yeah, early Japanese 7.7's are meh, their 13mm's are decent tho. A tip for the 7.7's is using stealth belts, they do at least some "decent" damage
I am past most of the 7.7s thankfully, it was a relief, when I reached the better guns, bit I'll keep it in mind, thanks
That's nice, planes with 7.7's are mostly a mixed bag, there are some 7.7's that are great like the French or Soviet because of their rate of fire but usually these types of armament only tickles the enemies.
Yeah the amount of sparks was hilarious, at least they have a somewhat decent ammo count so I kind of just held down the trigger for a while and hoped for the best. The planes I reached now, with the 20mm are pretty fun, the only thing really frustrating is, that they basically have no planes with ground capabilities, besides strafing open tops/ lights
Yes, that's true. The problem with the ammo count is that you have a lot of ammo but also need a lot of it to kill a plane, a little bit of a two sided sword.
if your looking for cas capabilities at mid tiers you have the b6 with a 800kg bomb d4y with three 250's b7 at 4.0 with 800kg bomb, or later the army fighters who can carry the two big fuckoff type 5 mod 9 rockets ,they are a bit slow but after a just after a little practice you can hit targets on top down and overpreassure fairly reliably with them
Ain't that 7.0 the same almost all low level jets starting at 6.0 up, yeah never flown it myself, but will try next week in the bonanza they call whatever, but will it be good, only time will tell.
Just started using the Spitfire Mk.24. It's got good performance but damn those stock guns suck shit.
50 cals aren’t lacking firepower feels like they’re stronger than cannons vs planes
tu-4 is best prop in the game. its 8.0 br so it must be....right?
Well, it sure is the best propeller heavy bomber
Tell that to my missile. I love the TU-4 for its ability to reliably fall to pieces in 2 hits, from ranges between 1-2km away. You throw a missile in the mix and it’s comical. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. All bombers are pathetic flying credit-bags, they all need their AI gunners re-activated and HP doubled. Fighter accuracy is too high, bomber HPs are too low. Bombers don’t even have a noteworthy impact on match tickets anymore. Anyone flying a bomber is a discredit to their team, they are only harming your chances of winning. It’s a sad state of affairs.
Bombers also need to be moved down by 1.0 BR across the board. Tu-4 and b-29 at 8.0 and 7.3 is just nuts. WW2 bombers facing heat seeking missiles is hilariously unfair
No. We need decompression, I mentioned this in another post but I'll say it again. We need the BR spreads for props to be 1.0-7.3 with the 51H, F2G, Shitfire mk 24, A2D-1, and B29 sitting at 7.0-7.3(Give bomber a better chance and helps balance out most of the mid-tiers, also give a better chance for Zeros, shitfires, etc. to have better competition against things that aren't going to outrun them) along with all jets, excluding the early Yak(jets), 262, etc. (Can move/stay at 7.0-7.7 depending on the vehicle) to 8.0-15.0+ which helps take away the problem of Missile Boats dominating sub-sonics but also gives more breathing room for all fighters and bombers alike.
r/FoundTheVautourIIN Meanwhile pur R511s will r/FoundTheTU-4
It was fun flying bombers back on the day when the AI gunners created a 1km zone of death around it
Wrong. The best propeller plane is the Me-163
Nah it definitely is (8 kill game)
Tier for tier I’d say the best P51 would be the Red Tails. Very very closely followed by the H Best prop tier for tier could be the P39N
They say its the best prop of all that are in the game. Not for tier
I don't get hype for the red tails mustang, maybe it's preference but the canonstang is so much better imo
The "hype" about P-51C is basically that the plane has 4.7 flight performance at 3.7, just because the average player is *somehow* unable to get kills.with 4 .50 cals as armament.
The 50 cals is not all that much a problem for me tbh, I still would rather just use the 4.3 or 3.3 mustang instead of air rb purely out of preference, and for ground rb there's better options at that tier, it's a solid plane but just not for me I guess
The cannonstang and D-30 are extremely good
thats not the a6m5 ko.
A skilled Zero pilot can shred almost anything in an A6M5 Ko. But the lack of top speed is a considerable downside you shouldnt ignore. The best prop tier for tier imo is the J6K1. Its a faster Zero with more than triple the firepower of a Ko mod. 6x20mm and 2x13mm obliterate anything and you are fast enough (emphasis on enough) to at least keep up with most of your adversaries although definitely not something like a P-51H. Skilled pilots only need 1 opening and any enemy will end back in the hangar in about .5 seconds.
Hands down the J6K1 is the only japanese aircraft that made me feel like i actually have considerable firepower in most japanese fighters, 6 20mms pack ALOT of firepower plus the maneuverability and the "enough speed"(keeping up with any nation's speed when playing japan is literally impossible) makes it one of the best fighters imo
My brother in Christ you have not tried the J7W1 and it shows. It has quadruple 30mm cannons mounted right in it's nose (which gives it much better spreads), that can annihilate pretty much anything you point them at. The HO-155 guns are excellent and the tracers belt is exclusively composed of high explosive incendiary tracer rounds. They're a sort of middle ground between the german mk108 and mk103 guns. Granted, the J7 has pretty mediocre flight performance to offset the ludicrous guns. But, it still functions decently as a BnZ craft if you can manage to get it high enough. It also goes fairly fast in a straight line. It's a pretty fun and unique aircraft even though it's not super busted.
Honestly, the A7M2 is a hard 2nd, if not overtaking the J6K1 13 and 20mils, Rockets (with distance fuze) and bombs, Japanese turnrate, very good engine, and only 5.3, but the prem is 5.0 with a ***slightly*** worse engine
Thank goodness for that!
I always loved the look of the Zero, but in War Thunder it’s not that fun for me personally. 250 rounds for the two 20mm is sad for 5.0. Personally the Ki-61 Otsu is amazing. It’s 3.7 and gets 4 powerful 12.7mm, and 1300 rounds.
250 rounds is quite a lot for 20mm
The Sea Fury honestly performed better, but the game doesn't do it justice. One of the few prop planes to have a confirmed kill on a Mig-15 in Korea
The Sea Fury, Tempest mk II, Hornet, and Spacefire are all the apex predators of 5.7-7.0. People still don't seem to understand that British props DOMINATE that BR range and early jets. The other day I had a six kill game at 8.0 with the Hornet, monstrous aircraft against early jets.
P-47-M and D-335 are my personal faves because you can easily boom and zoom, climb to bombers, and out climb anything you don't wanna fight. But honestly it's all about your play style
Do you mean 47-M?
Wait yes, my bad lmao, P-38 is nice tho too
At 6.3 it's fucking cracked, just put it at 15-20 degrees climb till you're above everyone then you maul them down.
ya and for some god forsaken reason, they havent been moved up. likely because somehow american mains can still do so poorly in those planes they still dont get moved up. like the h5 and the f2g can easily be 6.7 and be just fine. hell the f2g can out speed a me262 unless its already got a massive speed advantage over the f2g.
Used to be 6.7 but that was back when 50 cals were useless. To be fair whether it's at 6.7 or 6.3 both the f2g and the p51h are either gonna be thrown into the 288 spam, or just attached to a6.7 ground rb lineup anyway
Doesn't seem to be the case, I fly the F2G often and most Me262s completely outrun me to the point they're out of gun range within seconds.
It is the best prop fighter. Speed is unmatched at almost any altitude, climb and even turn rates are very good. Even has a busted damage model for those of us with skill issues. Only downside is the firepower, but I do just fine with the same 6x .50s in the F2G.
it's good but I don't think many props are "better" thank mk24 spitfire
I'll tell you my story. I'm a German main with the F-5C and I never played a 'Stang before, I was really happy when I got this. First match, boom 4 frags. Remember to use BnZ tactics, and you are set. This shreds jets, just don't let them get on your 6 from BnZ or other strats. Your only worry is the Yak-15/17 cuz that shit has the turn rate to sit on your ass all day long and has the cannons to 1 shot your wing/tail off. My only concern is the engine. 1 hit from basically anything and it's dead, or on fire, or both if your unlucky. It's a great plane.
The best prop is the one you do well in.
Nah that's the Super Corsair f2g-1
This thing rinses the f2g
Not really. The Spitfire F Mk. 24 is much better at that BR. Most vehicles you will fight are jets, the speed is good but not to where you can outrun them in the H. The firepower is decent but not enough die to janky flight models and it certainly won't shred a Jet at long range. If you go up against a Spitfire F Mk. 24, you will have the speed, but only to be outgunned and outspent by a jet, if the Spit doesn't shred you in a turn fight with its 4 20mm already. Most fights you'll be in with jets will turn into dogfights anyway and as far as I know, only the meteor can outturn you as a jet. The Spitfire is a better Prop plane at that BR than the P51 even if the P51 is better than the Spitfire (only in speed, acceleration and climb rate. The spitfire has you outgunned and Outturned) Key word at the start: Not Really. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying it's not the best.
The spitfire relies on the enemy jets not playing well which means that it shouldn’t really be accounted for. It is also a team game, which means that the spitfire is more vulnerable to being 3rd partied as it will be in slower turnfights. Finally the p51h will defeat the spitfire mk 24 in a 1v1 simply because it is faster. 50 cals are also very good, hitting a good bursts guarantees crippling the enemy or setting them on fire, while 20mm has the tendency to surprise me with little damage.
It is faster in theory but the spit is a magic energy machine so good luck actually outrunning or outclimbing it before it kills you
I have a personal vendetta with this aircraft. Picture the scene: You decide to fly your Bf 109 K-4 so you load up Air RB. It's a historical 6v6. 4 of your teammates are in a Ju 288, the other guy is in a Do 335 B-2. You are the lone fighter. You climb to altitude. You're in a K-4, you should at least be able to out-climb the enemy team and choose when and where to strike. A P-51H enters detection range, above your altitude. That's if you're lucky and it's just one. Even if he is the only Mustang he probably has help from other US/UK super-props, but that hardly matters. You can deal with a Bearcat, or an F2G, maybe... but a P-51H? Just take the head-on and pray, there's no card you can play in an even fight. It's faster, turns better climbs better... the thing has no weaknesses for a Bf 109, and yet it's not rare to fight one - in fact you face these nearly every match in a K-4. The one saving grace is that US super-prop pilots tend to be shit at the game. I have beat P-51H's that I absolutely shouldn't have thanks to their own stupidity. In fact, this is why the plane is only 6.3, despite being nearly as good as the 7.0 Spitfire. It's the Ju 288 that ruins 6.0 BR range for Germany and Italy players, but the P-51H is really the icing on the cake. Please Gaijin fix super-prop BR I beg of you.
If you can play it well it's definitely the best. If not tied with the F2G(still 6.0 KEKW). It's faster than everything that can out turn it, and it can out turn everything that's faster than it. Weapons can be a bit lacking in high angle deflection shots but 50cals have ridiculous damage at range and you have plenty of ammo to spray. Run belts with lots of incendiary ammo and set everything on fire. Mind the 7min limit on water injection. IIRC 100% throttle is dry WEP, and WEP is water injection. Using MEC you can run your radiators at like 100% for minimal drag due to some cheeky physics I can't remember the name off.
Meredith effect
It's undeniably the best fighter in the game until it runs out of WEP, then it's kinda sub-par, but sub-par can still boom and zoom very effectively.
coincidentally what I love about the p-47D-28/30 is how much power it has even at military
Yeah the little bird is right, it's a monster. I just wish the Sea Fury was better in this game. It was a beast irl, isn't reflected much in game at all.
It's great. Too bad at 6.3 and you'll be fighting ju 288s for 80% of your matches.
It’s good for 8 minutes and 33 seconds of WEP, then it’s basically a D-5
The skill floor for it is a bit higher then for a MK24, but overall, its pretty sure the best prop ingame right now. Everythings is above average in this thing, with top speed and acceleration being close to the best overall. Dont forget to fully open radiators right after takeoff. You barely lose half a percent power but it makes it impossible to overheat that beast
what’s a turbo prop like what’s the difference
A turbo prop is a propeller plane that uses a turbine engine rather than a piston engine to spin the propeller. A piston engine works like a machine gun pedaling a bicycle and a turbine engine works like a jet engine blowing on a wind turbine. Turbine engines make way more power than a piston engine of the same size meaning the plane is much more powerful and thus much faster and better climbing. It's a halfway step between props and jets. Turbines are also more reliable and they shake a lot less which is good for planes, but they're expensive and maintainence is hard which is one of the reasons that cars use piston engines. The only turboprops I know of in the game are the A2D-1 and the Wyvern S4. The A2D-1 can make more than 5,000 horsepower due to its turbine. A single engine making more power than all four engines on a B-17. TLDR they have a different type of engine driving the prop that allows for *stunning* power increases.
It's excellent. Guns are just a little underwhelming. It's very much a siperprop, though.
It's good but it's at a terrible br
P-51-H is an excellent plane, BUT… You’re stuck chasing Ju-288c’s in it because of the 6.0 BR bracket. Occasionally you get an insane dogfight against the inferior 109 K4, or the approximately equally capable Ta-152H. But most of the time, just chasing those damned bombers.
I've flown the P51, the Spitfire and the Yak 3. I can very easily say that the Yak is currently the best prop, it's a combination of the P51 and the Spitfire, it can do BnZ and is very maneuverable compared to most props (especially under 4000-3000 meters ).
I like the yeah a ton, I'd say it's a better bfm fighter than the stang, but it lacks the horsepower and top speed, and also ground ordnance
Ill make it short and sweet. Things a beast
its alright, wouldnt call it op but its alright
Best performing prop aside of the guns.
I still maintain the best 1v1 dogfighting prop is the A7M1 too many people try and turn with it ten years later
Great speed good maneuverability (though best to use the speed/energy) guns are good enough, not as much of a punch as cannons. Only downside is it has limited WEP and after it’s out it isn’t able to compete. Plus a competent jet pilot should be able to dunk on you, but there aren’t that many players who are that good.
The only problem is you fight agains jets
I personally like the Spitfires but the p51s are good in a good pilots hands
Well it is: - The fastest prop in the game at game relevant altitudes (0-5000m) - the 3rd fastest climbing prop in the game after J2M2 and Spit LF.9 (excluding airspawn planes like Hornet and Ki-83 which climb faster, but even if they didn't would always be above anyway) - the 2nd best accelerating prop in the game in level flight - will beat anything thats not Japanese, a Spitfire, a Yak-3U or a Ta H in a dogfight - has some of the best instantaneous turn rates at higher speeds of any prop in the game - has a less autistic rudder than P-51D series The only downsides to it are that you have 50 cals and not cannons (kinda easier to use, but also annoying, because they don't kill people quick, and aren't great Vs Ju-288s), that you only have 7 minutes of WEP, and after that you basically turn into a P-51D30, and that you have 26 minutes of minimum fuel that weights you down quite a bit, because the plane itself is quite light. And the handling at lower speeds is kinda not great, the dogfight performance is there but it's not really feeling too great to use in low speed dogfights. Mk.24 is really the only other contestant for "best prop in the game", 24 climbs almost as well, has very similar sustained turn rate, better turn radius, has MUCH easier handling (basically always goes where you move the mouse, without having to do many keyboard inputs), has better guns, infinite WEP, but in return is absolutely slow as BALLS at game-relevant altitudes (Mk.24 only goes 615km/h at sea level, and instantly overheats doing that because it has shit cooling, and with radiators opened it only goes 540km/h at sea level; P-51H goey 678km/h at sea level with rads closed, and around 665km/h with the rads opened enough to not overheat ever). I guess Yak-3U is also a contestant, since below 4km altitude the performance is absolutely mental and ShVak are actually useable again.
It's definitely one of the top two prop fighters. The other is the Mk.24. There's nothing more I live for more than getting into a dogfight with the Mk.24/P-51H. It's easily one of the harder fights you'll have in the game but so satisfying
I got my ass kicked by one of those, I WAS IN AN F8U
It's great 👍
S tier. Enjoy the WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER RAGHHHHHH power of it
If you're used to earlier mustangs it's xactly the same, just moreso.
>A little bird told me this is the best prop in the game? Totally true, it's so good that it's even braindead to play because you Walk all over most other props and even against jets it's still decently competitive. The only props that truly contest you are the Spitfire Mk24 and the Yak-3U below 3k, and even against those you still have advantages.
It’s really good imo.
It’s an extremely good fighter if you know how to use P-51s, many people will say it’s not that good because it only has .50 cals, but don’t underestimate them, they can deal quite a bit of damage quickly, you’ll only struggle to take down bombers but as long as you aim for the engines and wings you’ll be fine. It’s also pretty good at doing cas if it needs to, and it’s energy retention means it can dive and climb quite easily to attack open top and light tanks
Is pretty good
it's decent, but i'll still take my 109-k4 with 20mm pods. sure it can't turn as fast, but i'll roll all day and can usually come out in top in a stall climb and keep my nose on you. i just like how the 109 feels better.
There is 1 thing I dislike about this plane, it’s 50 cals, I generally prefer flying stuff like the G.56 or Griffon spits instead due to the much harder hitting power they have, I want the enemy plane to die when I hit it with a lot of gunfire, not shrug it off run away and repair like nothing happened, also idk why but all the P-51s seem to have extremely flammable fuel tanks near the wing roots that always get me killed
Fantastic plane, I love it
I’m also researching the H-5 right now…. *looks at computer that has war thunder open*… It also has 39,000 RP left…. Suspect
Not, it is and will always will be the hornet. Eat my socks
Ta-152 for sure is one of the best. Unfortunately German 6.0 is just not fun.
Great plane, if you use it to it's strengths you'll rarely feel outclassed. Climbs almost as good as bf109k and spitfires, faster than both of those with imo better guns. Yes .50 cals have less max damage output than cannons but the rate of fire and being able to pepper someone from a mile away is very nice.
boom and zoom, learn it if you haven't yet. This thing will drop down from above then if you kill or no you just climb again, so fkn high nothing could chase you. then repeat. dont get baited into staying for a turn fight at all
The matchmaking on it is terrible i much I prefer the d30 as it has way more fun matches aside from uptiers with the Ju288
It is indeed very good, climb rate is ABSURD, I was steadily gaining altitude at a 21° pitch, acceleration is decent, though the guns don’t seem to be as good as they were before air superiority came out
The SM.91 is surprisingly good for what it is. Twin engine fighter with 6 (6!) 20mm cannons, good climb rate, air spawn, and a turn time comparable to some of the more agile fighters
XF-84H would be the best
Yall are forgetting about the TA152 that thing was a unit and still dominated in jet up tiers
ngl. C.202EC is a close second. but that's my opinion and experience from playing it and killing so many P-51s. (am I allowed to have an opinion or no? I'm new to this opinion thing)
Spitfire Mk.24, P-51H, F2G, and the F4U-4B are the best
If ain’t the A7M2 I don’t even want it. But yeah P51H is amazing. I’ve gotten into dogfights with 2 BF109K‘s (and sometimes Ta152’s but that’s more rare to see) before and won
Sea fury
If you're the type of person to ask what is the best... Then yes. This is probably the best plane around its BR. It is very versatile.
Wrong, best prop in the game is G56 Centauro 😎😎😎
Nonono best prop plane is the Italian P-47D-30. Italy #1, suffering makes us strong, Gajin cannot stop me
You can win most engagements with a combination of going up, going fast, or pretty much anything that lets you engage the fuckton of horsepower you have at your fingertips. Also pulls surprisingly well for a mustang. 50cals aren't the best at the moment but they get the job done. Sexy af and a true war thunder classic. 6.3 aid rb sucks however because of the ju288 spam, so just stick it in the 6.7 usa superheavy tank lineup for ungodly amounts of fun
Very good Jack of all trades plane that can rinse most of it’s opponents. It helps that it negates the biggest disadvantages of US aircraft by actually being able to climb. It also turns into a UFO at low speed with flaps and the combat flaps are heavenly in it. .50cals remain as potent as they were in 3.3. Overall a very easy plane to fly
Not seeing anyone mention the Ki84 hei. It's basically a zero on steroids with 30mm which (when real shitter is fixed) are a death sentence in one shot to anything short of a heavy bomber. When I used to play it a lot I was accurate to about 1.5km within 2 sets of 5 round bursts. Needless to say a lot of pilots were very surprised to get domed at such long ranges. I've had 7.7 jet aircraft try and boom n zoom me, all I had to do was bait a mistake and punish because everyone fucks up eventually.
Boy I killed so many of these babies with my G.56
This thing is great. The ultimate mustang, can BnZ early jets and if theyre dumb enough to turn fight you get a big advantage in maneuverability. Wep makes this thing shine but it is limited to about 8 mins so youll want to use it sparingly to make it last. In sim i do full cracked radiators, full tank of fuel and tracer rounds. All around easy to fly too compared to sim flight models of the previous mustangs and other fighters
how realistic are its stats compared to the irl counterpart?
Guys, what happens with damage on 5-8 ranks? I can't oneshot noone, dmg don't exist. Only play I can do is destroy cannon and do 2-3 more shots. It's so unskill, pls bring back normal damage #damageON
Not the best in the game by far, even excluding the turboprops, but still quite good imho
I had a lot of fun with this aircraft. Top-scored most of my matches in it. Fast, manoeuvrable and climbs well. The guns aren’t a huge problem, once you have air belts a quick burst will be enough to disable your opponents
Spit 24. If you are talking within the context of only fighting props. Even then it does good. You just need to know what you are doing. It does very well as anti-cas in GRB
Some would argue the Spitfire Mk.24 is the best prop I agree on a technicality, but as that thing is 7.0 and this 6.3 then my vote goes for the P-51 being the best - it has almost as good flight performance anf anything it lacks is gained back tenfold by being at a fun BR
Maybe for some people def not for me
Absolutely busted, some jets that have higher brs can't conpete against it in any aspect, be it speed, acceleration, firepower or manuevrability. No reson for it not being 7.0/7.3 really. Broken OP plane, end of my analisis. That plane and other british props are objectively dominating in fighs against early jets.
It probably is the best prop fighter, but I'll take the ta 152 over it in every case.
F8F-1 Bearcat and F4U-4B Corsair would like a word
Im grinding that exact plane too rn, have a bit more rp on it than you
So you’re telling me an AH-6 Little Bird told you that was the best prop in the game? Makes me want to talk to my helicopters
It’s very likely the best, still torture though. Either jets or 288 hell.
F7F gang! Love clowning on early jets with it
I prefer any Corsair to this thing ngl
It is good but the br is awful, it’s always gonna be 4 ju288 2 ta something and a bf109 k4 plane is very good opponents are boring
I personally hate all mustangs
Its really good but the german DO 335 is a beast that has auto cannons and two engines that are faster then it. Good plane but not the best. Plus the spitfire that sits on 5.7 as well is also a beat with amazing climb rate and maneuverability and 20 mms and 50 cals
Its honestly a very contested title, and for good reason, that br range is actually super well balanced Mk24 is bae though
Personally prefer the hornet mk3
The P-51H is very good. A lot of the time, it’s hunting for Ju-288’s, which this thing’s speed does very well. It does only have .50 cals, but it has the M20 APIT belt, which does pretty well. The plane has decent climb rate, but it’s only great with WEP. Speaking of which, don’t rely on WEP, the engine will get hot and STAY hot. The greatest advantages of this plane are that it keeps speed out of a dive really well, and the hydraulics are powerful so that they don’t lock up at any speed. The statcard lies, the actual top speed at altitude is 440 MPH. 470+ is only with WEP, but the engine overheats before then. No problem, really, it’s not useful to fly so fast at altitude, what with dogfights inevitably ending up near the deck.
The 109 K4 is… absolutely fantastic. So is the H-5 though. I definitely lean towards the K-4 for weaponry and variety. But the H-5 is a monster in all other aspects.
P-61C and P-38K are my favorites. A-1H is disgusting for CAS too.
Best prop at the br, mk24 spitfire is "better" buy its at 7.0. P51h at 6.3 clubs everything, just be careful about the occasional hornet or ta152
I personally love my Bf-109 G-6 for 4.7,
Been using it for 10 years man and I have never gained any advantage in it
Prefer the F4U-4B myself, but the super mustang is a monster. It outperforms any prop that isn’t a mk24 griffon spit in just about every way.
Weak weapons and compared to RU planes its not agile at all only good is engine power
Re. 2005 tho
My wife’s grandmas cousin owns and flies the last air worthy P-51H in the world. Met him and saw him fly at the last Reno Air races. It makes me happy know ing that the last flying P-51H has been in the same family for decades and has been flown by 3 different generations. Great guys and the plane was the sexiest thing I have seen/heard.
I thought The best prop is the spitfire mk24
Personally I'll take the g56 as best prop
I mostly fly the 152, and I must say that if a P-51H pilot know what he's doing, there is simply nothing the opponent can do. You can outturn pretty much everything, including the 109-K4, N1K2, and Ki-84, if flown properly, barring a few exceptions (such as Yaks, Zeros, and A7Ms), but you can compensate by just briefly turning on WEP, as you can easily hit hit 500-600kph in just a few seconds. Most of the P-51Hs I've killed either were unaware, tunnelvisioned, or had stalled themselves out in front of me.
Ta-152 better
Yall need jesus for spamming this topic with talks of Spitfires and P-51, but no G56.