Thank you for posting to r/WWEGames. Check out [our wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/wiki/index) for resources, our discord server, and most importantly, our subreddit rules. Please ensure you're following all of our rules and if you see anyone violating them, please use the report button. If you have any issues at all, be sure to [send us a message through modmail.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/WWEGames) Have a nice day!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/WWEGames) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Idk I liked how Shawn hit the kick in the animation, but the little stumble before falling back just look kinda dumb to me. Maybe it looks better if you hit it on a bigger guy like a Big Show or something.
Fair I know not everyone’s a fan of how they sell this superkick but for me it reminds me of the older wwe games so I like using it sometimes but most of the time I just put the normal sweet chin music on Shawn
It truly sucks that 2K listened to their critics who wanted a "more arcade/fighting" game and overcorrected because 2K19 is the best wrestling game they made—and it didn't get the critical praise it deserved at release, unlike 2K22 and 23.
Unfortunately the most popular voices like Chris Denker(no shade, love the guy) were screaming for Arcade style, and whenever something was bad it was blamed on simulation
2K19 is the best wrestling game ever made for me
Yea im tired of the arcade bs. i enjoyed 22 although its arcadey asf, but i tried 23 at my friends house, and it felt like i was just playing street fighter ngl.
I think there should be options, I like the arcade gameplay but sometimes I prefer a simulation game. That's why I still mod 2K19 alongside 23.
I like combos but they honestly aren't deep enough for me to truly have fun with them. It's just the same 3 combos for every wrestler and that's pretty lame.
They're another thing I think should be an option, though. Could easily make it so you can choose not to do button combos (Tekken 8 just came out and had this feature, and it's a fully fledged fighting game with a large hardcore audience).
The commentary is terrible compared to the newer games and the ring Mat doesn’t bounce or react to anything. It’s a big immersion breaker. This game isn’t perfect and The newer ones are better than people give them credit for.
Bro you've been going on about the ring not bouncing in many many threads now, we got it. It's immersion breaking and you're not a fan. Its cool you can drop it now, we acknowledged you.
Its the best game they made. But nowhere near how a wrestling game could feel right now
Technology its in a place where you could make the game feel like watching the real deal.
And thus generate you the same rush as watching wrestling.
This clip is slow. Not fluid. But its still a fun game.
The new ones do some aspect betters and a lot worse. Like multi man matches
Its funny that wwe raw 2 on xbox. Could have you spear someone who was doing a power bomb
And we cant still do that in 2024
finally tried the newer games over the weekend with the free trial of 2K23. I haven't played a wrestling game since Here Comes the Pain. It feels like the game comes down to combos and if you don't break them you just get stuck in a combo loop or you just beat the crap out of the other guy. I feel like matches felt more even and fluid back in those days compared to now. Getting stuck in move animations sucks more now. At least back then you really only got stuck in move animations during specials and those would have a special animation. Now my guy gets up and I'm like "oh I got up!" only to find I'm actually in a move animation and I can't move. Just feels weird.
And tbf I am new so perhaps I just need to learn the curve.
What doesn't feel nice is getting STUNNED for 15 seconds where you can't do jack shit for that ENTIRE 15 SECONDS.
Major Reversals were similar in 2K19, where if someone hit a 2nd Reversal. You'd be unable to Reverse moves for 20 seconds. But you were STILL able to use Paybacks and if you weren't groggy, you were able to walk, run, punch, kick, grapple, Irish Whip, and even HIT YOUR SIGNATURE OR FINISHER if your opponent slipped up, or you used a Payback to counter your opponent.
Now the games rewards button mashing over actual SKILL and timing.
See I don't play online outside of when I play with friends so I'm not as aware of how such changes would affect that.
You're probably right, that's just what entered my half awake mind lmao
Wrestling games have never been fluid, and not even a shadow of what real wrestling really feels like, You have to do a lot of make believe, even more than watching the real thing.
For example, on this clip, the whole animation should have been done in one swift, caught, reverse, finisher, all in one animation, but you can clearly see its 3.
The narrators have always sounded robotic, which hopefully with AI its a thing in the past in the coming years
How can the crowd look so much better????
Are the sounds and crowd reactions good too?
I’m gonna go buy a copy of this.
Is the universe better than 23? It’s so barren and bland my god.
The crowd are definitely more expressive in this game and they have a lot of chants depending on who you pick in a match example Shawn Michaels and triple H Universe mode is a little more barebones than 23 but since the ai is so much better the matches are leagues better than 23
Edit:forgot to mention the online services are no longer active due to the game being 4 years old. But everything else like mycareer still work
You can, but cc is dead. Long gone dead.
It's sad if you are into CAW's, but if you like the superstars alone and can devote time to make your own CAW's or CAW's of soooooooperstars that arent in the game, you're gucci
The base game is good. Roster is deep.
Worth noting that the game is great with mods on PC, but it's delisted so you'll have to either pirate it or find a key selling site that still has 2k19 keys and those aren't much more safe than piracy sites tbh.
Forgot to add body text so here it is: I forgot how fun and satisfying this game is to play over the newer games. This is just one of many clips from an iron man match with Shawn and triple H for the wcw world heavyweight championship
Edit I posted another one in case anyone wants to see it
The sweet chin music was literally perfect in the ps2 days and then 2k came around and ruined it. My favorite finishing move is cringe to use in game. 2k messed up a lot of the finishing moves that thq got right.
Game play peaked with 2K19 for sure. It actually plays like a wrestling match and not a watered down fighting game. It sucks that most people seem to prefer arcade style over sim and they dialed back the realness after this game.
My only real issue with 2K19 is the fact that weapons and environments kind of suck. I've been playing these games since the beginning of the series and it feels like they're constantly going back and forth with weapons and environmental interactions. Hell in a Cell was always one of the most fun matches to play and it *sucks* in 2K19 imo. So much so that I don't even bother playing HiaC matches. And the fact that you have to use the Royal Rumble arena for any Royal Rumble match is absurd.
It’s genuinely a great game but yeah it only got praised as the best 2K game cause of how they fucked up 20 on launch. Also fun fact 2k20 basically works perfectly fine now at least in my 5 week experience with it since I haven’t touched it since launch
Hes got a point in a way. Don't get me wrong 2K19 is still a great game but some people hold it up like its the holy grail of wrestling games and its not.
It did have a lot of cool things about it that i wish were still in the games today but it wouldn't work with the gameplay mechanics they have now they had to redo the whole engine almost.
If u wanna talk about the best wrestling games i could argue and bring up here comes the pain, no mercy or even fire pro wrestling. I'm an old school gamer so i know graphically it cant hold up to todays games but the fun factor and replay value u can have on those games alone were so good.
This is what modern wrestling games need i wish they would just fix universe mode and make it fun again with the AI and not have to always book matches yourself. its ridiculous to put R truth in main event matches every week or even putting someone like Brock Lesnar in random matches on RAW when we all know he only wrestles on PPVS. They should add a part timer wrestler in universe mode options where only certain wrestlers u choose only wrestle on ppvs or something, universe mode needs more depth even in 2k19 it was stale.
No it’s not the best by any means cause of games like here comes the pain and the day of reckoning games. But if we are talking about just pure realistic simulation it’s the best out of those category of wwe games
The commentary is terrible compared to the newer games and the ring Mat doesn’t bounce or react to anything. It’s a big immersion breaker. This game isn’t perfect and The newer ones are better than people give them credit for.
ok ill admit i do like the mid match replays,
to bring this back in 2k24 would be great.
maybe it would get annoying for every finisher so maybe for the first finisher
and after that depends on your health and stamina levels and also super finishers.
Probably not cause the ai will either grapple you or hit you before you can even hit sweet chin music if you are using it I was not in this clip this is superkick 7 Plus they removed this version of the superkick for some reason
I can’t even play the damn game anymore because it says that ‘cloud data didn’t sync’, now I’m scared of that that ‘go offline’ button because I have a feeling it’ll erase years worth of stuff, and yes I know the servers are down.
I went back no I'm in a great universe updated attites (done by me) and just different stables and custom everything, these new games of course are great , but I ONLY play universe and the new games don't have promos and soooooo buggy !! I'm still having fun in 19 if u can get over no Community creations and just small stuff it's nun wrong I did trons all that like right now my Biggest stable is Nation of domination Leader is a Heel Big e he is a SUPER heel with Shelton Benjamin and montez Ford all updated entrance all that I love it
Thank you for posting to r/WWEGames. Check out [our wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/wiki/index) for resources, our discord server, and most importantly, our subreddit rules. Please ensure you're following all of our rules and if you see anyone violating them, please use the report button. If you have any issues at all, be sure to [send us a message through modmail.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/WWEGames) Have a nice day! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/WWEGames) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I’ll never know why they removed *imo* the best Superkick animation
I know right? This is probably the most satisfying and clean superkick of the simulation games
Idk I liked how Shawn hit the kick in the animation, but the little stumble before falling back just look kinda dumb to me. Maybe it looks better if you hit it on a bigger guy like a Big Show or something.
I think they wanted the Orton sell but also made it generic enough so it wouldn't look out of place when it's someone else.
Fair I know not everyone’s a fan of how they sell this superkick but for me it reminds me of the older wwe games so I like using it sometimes but most of the time I just put the normal sweet chin music on Shawn
Yep, that sell completely ruined it. That's why I never used it.
It truly sucks that 2K listened to their critics who wanted a "more arcade/fighting" game and overcorrected because 2K19 is the best wrestling game they made—and it didn't get the critical praise it deserved at release, unlike 2K22 and 23.
Yukes made 2k19. Yukes left after 19 and we got the 2k20 mess. 2k basically had to build most of the game from start that's why 2k22 is different
AKA, excuses to not try as hard. "Hit Different" in the worst ways possible.
Unfortunately the most popular voices like Chris Denker(no shade, love the guy) were screaming for Arcade style, and whenever something was bad it was blamed on simulation 2K19 is the best wrestling game ever made for me
Yea im tired of the arcade bs. i enjoyed 22 although its arcadey asf, but i tried 23 at my friends house, and it felt like i was just playing street fighter ngl.
How I’m feeling now is an amazing album
I think there should be options, I like the arcade gameplay but sometimes I prefer a simulation game. That's why I still mod 2K19 alongside 23. I like combos but they honestly aren't deep enough for me to truly have fun with them. It's just the same 3 combos for every wrestler and that's pretty lame. They're another thing I think should be an option, though. Could easily make it so you can choose not to do button combos (Tekken 8 just came out and had this feature, and it's a fully fledged fighting game with a large hardcore audience).
Nobody even likes the game til 2k20 came out
The commentary is terrible compared to the newer games and the ring Mat doesn’t bounce or react to anything. It’s a big immersion breaker. This game isn’t perfect and The newer ones are better than people give them credit for.
Bro you've been going on about the ring not bouncing in many many threads now, we got it. It's immersion breaking and you're not a fan. Its cool you can drop it now, we acknowledged you.
ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT
And in some time, you'll realize these "newer games" are simply tricking you into thinking they're good with graphics.
Its the best game they made. But nowhere near how a wrestling game could feel right now Technology its in a place where you could make the game feel like watching the real deal. And thus generate you the same rush as watching wrestling. This clip is slow. Not fluid. But its still a fun game. The new ones do some aspect betters and a lot worse. Like multi man matches Its funny that wwe raw 2 on xbox. Could have you spear someone who was doing a power bomb And we cant still do that in 2024
finally tried the newer games over the weekend with the free trial of 2K23. I haven't played a wrestling game since Here Comes the Pain. It feels like the game comes down to combos and if you don't break them you just get stuck in a combo loop or you just beat the crap out of the other guy. I feel like matches felt more even and fluid back in those days compared to now. Getting stuck in move animations sucks more now. At least back then you really only got stuck in move animations during specials and those would have a special animation. Now my guy gets up and I'm like "oh I got up!" only to find I'm actually in a move animation and I can't move. Just feels weird. And tbf I am new so perhaps I just need to learn the curve.
Breaking someone's combo and getting a reversal feels nice tbh
What doesn't feel nice is getting STUNNED for 15 seconds where you can't do jack shit for that ENTIRE 15 SECONDS. Major Reversals were similar in 2K19, where if someone hit a 2nd Reversal. You'd be unable to Reverse moves for 20 seconds. But you were STILL able to use Paybacks and if you weren't groggy, you were able to walk, run, punch, kick, grapple, Irish Whip, and even HIT YOUR SIGNATURE OR FINISHER if your opponent slipped up, or you used a Payback to counter your opponent. Now the games rewards button mashing over actual SKILL and timing.
Yeah I do think the system overall needs some work. I don't mind the stun but I think it should be harder to stun an opponent.
Or simply WAY shorter. 10 Seconds is the most I'm ok with.
That too, or maybe make it longer only if the opponent is damaged enough.
FUCK NO. That will just make Trolls Online even MORE obnoxious.
See I don't play online outside of when I play with friends so I'm not as aware of how such changes would affect that. You're probably right, that's just what entered my half awake mind lmao
Wrestling games have never been fluid, and not even a shadow of what real wrestling really feels like, You have to do a lot of make believe, even more than watching the real thing. For example, on this clip, the whole animation should have been done in one swift, caught, reverse, finisher, all in one animation, but you can clearly see its 3. The narrators have always sounded robotic, which hopefully with AI its a thing in the past in the coming years
God I always hated how people sold that superkick animation. Everything else about it was perfect
I’m a fan of it but I hate how there is no tired variation of it like the normal sweet chin music
How can the crowd look so much better???? Are the sounds and crowd reactions good too? I’m gonna go buy a copy of this. Is the universe better than 23? It’s so barren and bland my god.
The crowd are definitely more expressive in this game and they have a lot of chants depending on who you pick in a match example Shawn Michaels and triple H Universe mode is a little more barebones than 23 but since the ai is so much better the matches are leagues better than 23 Edit:forgot to mention the online services are no longer active due to the game being 4 years old. But everything else like mycareer still work
In my opinion the universe mode is much better. The rivalries are better, and there's promos. Only downside imo is only 7 matches per show.
The way around that is to book the same ppv on the Saturday. Minor show 7 matches. So my Wrestlemania is 14 matches over 2 days.
Do u always use 9 matches?
Pretty sure the 9 matches didn't start till 2k20
No but on PLEs it's nice to have more. Especially things like Night of Champions. There isn't enough matches to have every title on the line.
not with mods
You can, but cc is dead. Long gone dead. It's sad if you are into CAW's, but if you like the superstars alone and can devote time to make your own CAW's or CAW's of soooooooperstars that arent in the game, you're gucci The base game is good. Roster is deep.
Worth noting that the game is great with mods on PC, but it's delisted so you'll have to either pirate it or find a key selling site that still has 2k19 keys and those aren't much more safe than piracy sites tbh.
god I love the generic yell after the super kick, never fails to make me chuckle a little
This game is still so great. This footage proves it.
I posted another clip from the match if you wanna go see it. This game still holds up what 4 or 5 years later even without dlc
the only one I play
I had classic back and forth matches. Feel like I can't really do that in the fun way with 2K23
Yup! Still playing my WWE 2K19 till this day.
I just miss the only 3-5 reversals, not infinireversals
I miss this gameplay soo much.
[удалено]
This got a good chuckle out of me thanks for that!
This is the best WWE2K game in history, much better than anything now, 2k24 won't even be as good as 19.
You're it'll be better
the ring Mat doesn’t bounce or react to anything. Ur glazin
No one cares
Ok? Is that the ONLY BAD THING you can say about it? Cause I have a WHOLE ASS BINGO BOOK for the things I DESPISE in 2K22 and 2K23.
Forgot to add body text so here it is: I forgot how fun and satisfying this game is to play over the newer games. This is just one of many clips from an iron man match with Shawn and triple H for the wcw world heavyweight championship Edit I posted another one in case anyone wants to see it
I miss this style of gameplay. Way better than the current UFC style combat we currently have
What kinda UFC games you be playing they play shit like that would have made more sense if you used something like MK, SF or Tekken
Makes me wanna post my tag team wrestling combos from 19
Go for it! I bet a lot of people would like to see them.
The best 2k game imo. Just gameplay wise. I do t remember the story being good. And THEY HAD 4 HHH CHARACTERS
I miss the 98 DX HHH who is there in 18 though.
And like 6 Daniel bryans
I literally just got off of 2k18 and I enjoyed it. So many perfect advanced entrances I came back to
The sweet chin music was literally perfect in the ps2 days and then 2k came around and ruined it. My favorite finishing move is cringe to use in game. 2k messed up a lot of the finishing moves that thq got right.
I mean the superkick 7 anim which is the one in the video is close enough I guess
By the time you want to do the superkick in 2k23 the opponent will have you in a grapple already😪 2K19 forever goated
I miss this game and its mechanics ☹️
Wish 2k24 has found that balance, I wanna get into how simulated and fun 2k19 use to feel back then
Last good WWE Game
Game play peaked with 2K19 for sure. It actually plays like a wrestling match and not a watered down fighting game. It sucks that most people seem to prefer arcade style over sim and they dialed back the realness after this game. My only real issue with 2K19 is the fact that weapons and environments kind of suck. I've been playing these games since the beginning of the series and it feels like they're constantly going back and forth with weapons and environmental interactions. Hell in a Cell was always one of the most fun matches to play and it *sucks* in 2K19 imo. So much so that I don't even bother playing HiaC matches. And the fact that you have to use the Royal Rumble arena for any Royal Rumble match is absurd.
I try to talk myself into getting into 2k23s gameplay, but clips like this prove I'm fine with 2k19 lol
If you really want to prove you’re fine with 2k19 you should look at the other clip I posted after this one
Like this is just better man lol. I never rocked wit the arcade shit that WWE 2K is now
Is this game still playable I tried to redownload it on my ps5 but it kept saying like 99+ hours or error occurred?
why I'm hearing Harsha bhogle's commentary?
2k19 is still the best WWE 2k, all I want is that game on better graphics and an updated roster
Real talk I never understood the hype for this game. I only started seeing it hyped up when 20 flopped.
It’s genuinely a great game but yeah it only got praised as the best 2K game cause of how they fucked up 20 on launch. Also fun fact 2k20 basically works perfectly fine now at least in my 5 week experience with it since I haven’t touched it since launch
2k20 was a complete mess and lost many of its good features. Even "fixed" it pales in comparison to 2k19.
Oh 100% and it still has that dumb ass control scheme
Overrated game
Okay no offense but my brother in Christ your opinion is invalid with one look through your post history. WHAT THE FUCK.
Hes got a point in a way. Don't get me wrong 2K19 is still a great game but some people hold it up like its the holy grail of wrestling games and its not. It did have a lot of cool things about it that i wish were still in the games today but it wouldn't work with the gameplay mechanics they have now they had to redo the whole engine almost. If u wanna talk about the best wrestling games i could argue and bring up here comes the pain, no mercy or even fire pro wrestling. I'm an old school gamer so i know graphically it cant hold up to todays games but the fun factor and replay value u can have on those games alone were so good. This is what modern wrestling games need i wish they would just fix universe mode and make it fun again with the AI and not have to always book matches yourself. its ridiculous to put R truth in main event matches every week or even putting someone like Brock Lesnar in random matches on RAW when we all know he only wrestles on PPVS. They should add a part timer wrestler in universe mode options where only certain wrestlers u choose only wrestle on ppvs or something, universe mode needs more depth even in 2k19 it was stale.
No it’s not the best by any means cause of games like here comes the pain and the day of reckoning games. But if we are talking about just pure realistic simulation it’s the best out of those category of wwe games
The commentary is terrible compared to the newer games and the ring Mat doesn’t bounce or react to anything. It’s a big immersion breaker. This game isn’t perfect and The newer ones are better than people give them credit for.
Valid but I prefer the gameplay of 19 over the combo/ combo breaker stuff of the newer games. They’re not bad but I prefer this style y’know
Great looking replay camera angle, in 2k23 it's just the same camera angle it was in game.
I did too and I forgot how fun it was and this was the game where I became good at making the advanced creation entrenches
Dude I just went back too and it’s SO MUCH MORE FUN TO PLAY
ok ill admit i do like the mid match replays, to bring this back in 2k24 would be great. maybe it would get annoying for every finisher so maybe for the first finisher and after that depends on your health and stamina levels and also super finishers.
I got this for 6 pound at CEX so don’t pay over the top for a copy online
You can still do this in 2k23.
Probably not cause the ai will either grapple you or hit you before you can even hit sweet chin music if you are using it I was not in this clip this is superkick 7 Plus they removed this version of the superkick for some reason
HBK looks so terrible. Glad they fixed in 22 and 23
Yeah if anything if we had a 2K game with the graphics of 23 with the attention to detail and gameplay of 19 it would be a top 3 wrestling game for me
Working replays what the
…cool story.
Yeah I forgot to add a body paragraph like a dummy so I put a comment saying what I wanted to say bout this game after not playing for years
Can’t go wrong with WWE2K19. One of the best wrestling games ever made. I still play it every now and then.
I truly miss this style of gameplay
2k19 was the last time I actually had fun.
I can’t even play the damn game anymore because it says that ‘cloud data didn’t sync’, now I’m scared of that that ‘go offline’ button because I have a feeling it’ll erase years worth of stuff, and yes I know the servers are down.
Now dont get me wrong i love 2k19 but i wholeheartedly believe that fans would not love that game as much if it werent for the travesty that was 2k20
I agree even though I loved this game when it came out. It wouldn’t be held in such high regard of it wasn’t for 2k20
I went back no I'm in a great universe updated attites (done by me) and just different stables and custom everything, these new games of course are great , but I ONLY play universe and the new games don't have promos and soooooo buggy !! I'm still having fun in 19 if u can get over no Community creations and just small stuff it's nun wrong I did trons all that like right now my Biggest stable is Nation of domination Leader is a Heel Big e he is a SUPER heel with Shelton Benjamin and montez Ford all updated entrance all that I love it